[PC-NCSG] Time to elect a new chair and alternate chair(s)

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

good point.

that is the way i feel about myself as well.  so in a sense it means we 
do have the so-called edge case.


avri


On 30-Jan-14 11:32, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My main issue with this model (apart from the theoretical scenario Avri
> highlighted) is that I consider the six NCSG-PC members here as a result
> of Council elections to be representatives of the entire SG, regardless
> of our constituency affiliations. I know that I at least feel that way
> about myself. I can?t in good conscience represent a single constituency
> on this committee, so wouldn?t be able to nominate myself (or accept
> nominations) for chair or vice chair under this model.
>
> In any case, I have no intention of serving in one of these positions.
> Just saying. :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks for the reply.
>>
>> If I were to turn this into a process it might work something like
>>
>> Nominees from both Cs
>> Top vote getter is Chair,
>> Next highest vote getter from other C is Alt-chair
>>
>> (the theoretical edge case this does not cover is: if the person
>> elected is an NCSG member but is not a C member.  But that is not a
>> case we have to contend with in this choosing, so i do not worry it
>> about, just noting the issue.)
>>
>> So now we have two possible algorithms:
>>
>> - simple
>> - alt-simple
>>
>> Other opinions?
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 30-Jan-14 10:40, marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>>> Hi Avri,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay in replying. Not due to a lack of interest at all
>>> but to the fact that this needed to be discussed with Rudi the other
>>> NPOC policy rep at NCSG level, and he is busy attending  a one-week BoT
>>> meeting. We were able to exchange some emails and share opinions to find
>>> that we agree with your latest proposal (process, deadlines, etc,). By
>>> the way, thank you for settling this and thanks to Amr for contributing.
>>>  The only "but" would be that  I would favor picking your original
>>> proposal with regards to the one chair and one alternate model, each
>>> from one constituency vs. having one chair and two alternates.  In
>>> December, in my opinion,  you rightly argued that it would allow more
>>> balance in term of representativeness unlike the other option (two
>>> alternates and one chair). I keep thinking this is the best way to go.
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> mll
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>
>>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Hi,
>>>
>>>    Well we seem to be the only people interested in this.
>>>
>>>    At this point I suggest simplifying.
>>>
>>>    Lets just hold an election for chair as mandated by the charter.  We
>>>    need to do this since our chair is no longer part of the PC, though
>>>    I do hope she remains in the group as an past-council member.
>>>
>>>    We can then decide if we want to continue having alternate chairs
>>>    and how we go about picking them.  I figure the easiest thing is to
>>>    ask each C to pick one of its PC members for the honor.  Calls for
>>>    the least SG level process, which we seem not so good at anymore.
>>>
>>>    I think this is sort of what you recommended Amr.  I will not push
>>>    for my original recommendation.  Really doesn't matter one way or
>>>    another to me as long as we elect a chair and I can stop this
>>>    semi-chair role which does not really feel legitimate.  And with no
>>>    other voice chiming in, I might as long go along with the thoughts
>>>    of the newer members of the PC.
>>>
>>>    I will send a separate email calling for nominations for chair.
>>>
>>>    Nominations open until Monday end of day anywhere
>>>
>>>    Nominees need to have agreed to their nomination by Tuesday end of
>>>    day anywhere.
>>>
>>>    Balloting starts on Wednesday goes until the following Monday end of
>>>    day anywhere.
>>>
>>>    It will be a secret doodle poll with only the results announced.
>>>
>>>    Any objections?
>>>
>>>    avri
>>>
>>>
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