From avri  Mon Oct  7 19:03:04 2013
From: avri (Avri Doria)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:03:04 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] FYI: IRTP-D tidbit that may be of interest to NCSG
Message-ID: <0CA93C18-C195-4228-AF2C-0F01A9CC5F7E@acm.org>

Hi,

Just a FYI.
 
I follow the Inter Registrar Transfer Protocol (IRTP-D) working groups.  I don't normally bother you all about them except for when they are looking for SG/C comments.  In this case I thought the issue might be of interest to the group.

The IRTP-D is currently talking about:

c) Whether dispute options for registrants should be developed and implemented as part of the policy (registrants currently depend on registrars to initiate a dispute on their behalf);

The discussion on C is just starting.

One of the sub-issues is who pays for the dispute.  Common ICANN process (which is horrible in so many ways) is that loser pays and that both parties need to put up the projected cost before the dispute resolution gets started.

This is always tough for smaller registrants, and especially non-commercial registrants.

And the Registrars probably won't accept a situation where they might be the ones paying, since there may be 'bad people' who hijacked the name and Registrars do not wish to accept intermediate responsibility for things they do not consider themselves able to handle.

This will become an issue of discussion going forward.  Today we only recognized the issue.  It will probably be discussed at length in our next meting.

Love to hear opinions, and anyone who wants to follow can check out the recordings.

cheers,

avri


From avri  Tue Oct  8 22:33:52 2013
From: avri (Avri Doria)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:33:52 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [gnso-igo-ingo] 9 OCT 2013 - CALL CANCELED
References: <005901cec430$6ad34cb0$4079e610$@berrycobb.com>
Message-ID: <4E5CCBA5-3377-40CF-BEC4-02583AAE9547@ella.com>

Hi Y'all,

A reminder to us, we have not yet commented and have not even started working on a comment n the PC.

We have a minority opinion in the draft, but as a SG and as Constituencies, as well as Individuals, this is the last chance before it goes to the Board to get comments in for consideration.

Many people have felt strongly about various issues.

Eg. 
- the issue on NGO's being treated the same as IGO is important to many.
- the idea of adding protections is vile to some
- we have different view on whether non trademarks should be allowed in the TMCH
- we diverge on the issue of whether the NGOs get to use RPM for lesser tariff 

If you have something to say about this report now is the time.

And if the SG or either of the Cs have some consensus thing to say, now is also the time for that.

thanks

avri



Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Berry Cobb" <mail at berrycobb.com>
> Subject: [gnso-igo-ingo] 9 OCT 2013 - CALL CANCELED
> Date: 8 October 2013 10:12:26 EDT
> To: <gnso-igo-ingo at icann.org>
> 
> WG Members,
>  
> To date, we only have one comment submitted to our public forum on the draft Final Report.  As this was to be our primary agenda item, the 9 Oct 2013 call is now cancelled.  http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-final-20sep13/
>  
> We will reconvene on 16 Oct 2013 @ 16:00 UTC.
>  
> Thank you.  B
>  
> Berry Cobb
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
> 720.839.5735
> mail at berrycobb.com
> @berrycobb
>  

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From robin  Sat Oct 12 00:31:50 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:31:50 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table
	for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C54EF0@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
Message-ID: <67BD5104-EA84-4C26-974E-ABA4DCFB6A6B@ipjustice.org>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Subject: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
> Date: October 11, 2013 12:15:12 PM PDT
> To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com>, "Claudio DiGangi (cdigangi at inta.org)" <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>
> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry <gnso-secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
> 
> Dear All,
>  
> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below,  to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>  
> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>  
> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013. 
> 
> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013. 
> 
> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received. 
> 
> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible). 
> 
> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
> ? Adjourn the meeting 
> 
> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>  
> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>  
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thank you.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Glen
>  
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> http://gnso.icann.org
>  

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From robin  Thu Oct 17 03:57:22 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:57:22 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Reconsideration Request 13-11 - Update on Timing of
	BGC Consideration
References: <CE846A34.21D2F%reconsideration@icann.org>
Message-ID: <AAFF88F2-D33C-4F82-A540-5AB16F232061@ipjustice.org>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: reconsideration <reconsideration at icann.org>
> Subject: Reconsideration Request 13-11 - Update on Timing of BGC Consideration
> Date: October 16, 2013 4:07:16 PM PDT
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> 
> As you are aware, ICANN is in receipt of Reconsideration Request 13-11, submitted on 8 September 2013.  The Bylaws governing the Reconsideration process state that the Board Governance Committee shall make a final determination or recommendation to the Board with respect to a Reconsideration Request within thirty days following its receipt of the request, unless impractical.  (Article IV, Section 2.16.)  Under that guidance, the BGC would have had to act by 8 October 2013.  Due to the volume of Reconsideration Requests received within recent weeks, the BGC was unable to consider Request 1311 at its meeting scheduled last week.  The BGC is in the process of setting a meeting to address the pending Reconsideration Requests, and we anticipate that the BGC will have an opportunity to consider Request 13-11 no later than the end of October, with the possibility that action will be taken before that date.   The BGC will provide all required notification to the Board regarding the impracticability of determining this issue within the 30-day timeframe.  ICANN will notify you once the BGC has taken and posted its final determination or recommendation, or in the unlikely circumstance that action cannot be taken in the timeframe set forth above.
> -- 
> ICANN
> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
> Los Angeles, California  90094
> 

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From robin  Fri Oct 18 22:22:59 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:22:59 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed
	time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
Message-ID: <3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>

All,

NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.

I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?

Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.

Thanks!
Robin

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Subject: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
> Date: October 18, 2013 2:06:07 AM PDT
> To: "'Metalitz, Steven' (met at msk.com)" <met at msk.com>, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> 
> Dear All,
>  
> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>  
> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>  
> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013. 
> 
> 
> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
> 
> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
> 
> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
> 
> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
> ? Adjourn the meeting
> 
> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>  
> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>  
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thank you.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Glen
>  
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> http://gnso.icann.org
>  

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From avri  Fri Oct 18 22:27:23 2013
From: avri (Avri Doria)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 03:27:23 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed
	time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <374BB5CB-83F5-45DA-B562-FE713747583E@ella.com>


On 19 Oct 2013, at 03:22, Robin Gross wrote:

> 
> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
> 
> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
> 


I support David.

And I think we should consider supporting Jonathan for another term.

avri

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From dave  Sat Oct 19 01:43:41 2013
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:43:41 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed
	time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <93970187-EA80-4B14-9058-7DAD05E3964A@difference.com.au>

Yes, I'm happy to run as the NCSG candidate for Vice Chair. 

I would be happy to support Jonathan for a second term. If there is an active campaign to run someone against him we should consider it (especially Thomas), but I've no objection to Jonathan having a second term. 

David




On 19/10/2013, at 3:22 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> All,
> 
> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
> 
> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
> 
> Thanks!
> Robin
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>> Subject: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
>> Date: October 18, 2013 2:06:07 AM PDT
>> To: "'Metalitz, Steven' (met at msk.com)" <met at msk.com>, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
>> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>> 
>> Dear All,
>>  
>> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
>> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>>  
>> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>>  
>> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
>> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
>> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
>> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
>> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013. 
>> 
>> 
>> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
>> 
>> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
>> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
>> 
>> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
>> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
>> 
>> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
>> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
>> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
>> ? Adjourn the meeting
>> 
>> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
>> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>>  
>> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>>  
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>> Thank you.
>>  
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Glen
>>  
>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>> GNSO Secretariat
>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg

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From william.drake  Sat Oct 19 03:46:00 2013
From: william.drake (William Drake)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:46:00 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time
	table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <93970187-EA80-4B14-9058-7DAD05E3964A@difference.com.au>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
	<93970187-EA80-4B14-9058-7DAD05E3964A@difference.com.au>
Message-ID: <DF96B27E-4890-4E42-8A5E-0659AE39FA5B@uzh.ch>

Excellent, let's see how this plays, should be fun given the tortured history of the position.  A good test to see whether anything really has changed at CSG?.

Bill


On Oct 19, 2013, at 6:43 AM, David Cake <dave at DIFFERENCE.COM.AU> wrote:

> Yes, I'm happy to run as the NCSG candidate for Vice Chair. 
> 
> I would be happy to support Jonathan for a second term. If there is an active campaign to run someone against him we should consider it (especially Thomas), but I've no objection to Jonathan having a second term. 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19/10/2013, at 3:22 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
>> 
>> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Robin
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>>> Subject: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
>>> Date: October 18, 2013 2:06:07 AM PDT
>>> To: "'Metalitz, Steven' (met at msk.com)" <met at msk.com>, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
>>> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>>  
>>> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
>>> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>>>  
>>> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>>>  
>>> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
>>> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
>>> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
>>> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
>>> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
>>> 
>>> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
>>> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
>>> 
>>> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
>>> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
>>> 
>>> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
>>> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
>>> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
>>> ? Adjourn the meeting
>>> 
>>> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
>>> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>>>  
>>> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>>>  
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>> Thank you.
>>>  
>>> Kind regards,
>>>  
>>> Glen
>>>  
>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>>  
>> 
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From maria.farrell  Sat Oct 19 13:53:26 2013
From: maria.farrell (Maria Farrell)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:53:26 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed
	time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <374BB5CB-83F5-45DA-B562-FE713747583E@ella.com>
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	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
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I would tend to support Jonathan unless we have a good reason not to, but I'm open to what others think.

Maria 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Oct 2013, at 20:27, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 19 Oct 2013, at 03:22, Robin Gross wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
>> 
>> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
> 
> 
> I support David.
> 
> And I think we should consider supporting Jonathan for another term.
> 
> avri
> 
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From maria.farrell  Sat Oct 19 13:54:17 2013
From: maria.farrell (Maria Farrell)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:54:17 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time
	table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <DF96B27E-4890-4E42-8A5E-0659AE39FA5B@uzh.ch>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>
	<93970187-EA80-4B14-9058-7DAD05E3964A@difference.com.au>
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Yes, indeed!

Thanks for running, David.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Oct 2013, at 01:46, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> 
> Excellent, let's see how this plays, should be fun given the tortured history of the position.  A good test to see whether anything really has changed at CSG?.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2013, at 6:43 AM, David Cake <dave at DIFFERENCE.COM.AU> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I'm happy to run as the NCSG candidate for Vice Chair. 
>> 
>> I would be happy to support Jonathan for a second term. If there is an active campaign to run someone against him we should consider it (especially Thomas), but I've no objection to Jonathan having a second term. 
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19/10/2013, at 3:22 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
>>> 
>>> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
>>>> Date: October 18, 2013 2:06:07 AM PDT
>>>> To: "'Metalitz, Steven' (met at msk.com)" <met at msk.com>, "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
>>>> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>  
>>>> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
>>>> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>>>>  
>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>>>>  
>>>> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
>>>> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
>>>> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
>>>> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
>>>> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
>>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
>>>> 
>>>> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
>>>> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
>>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
>>>> 
>>>> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
>>>> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
>>>> 
>>>> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
>>>> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
>>>> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
>>>> ? Adjourn the meeting
>>>> 
>>>> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
>>>> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>>>>  
>>>> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>>>>  
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>  
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Glen
>>>>  
>>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>>>  
>>> 
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From joy  Sun Oct 20 09:47:37 2013
From: joy (joy)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:47:37 +1300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time
 table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
In-Reply-To: <F94CC3E2-4303-4BC8-BE17-31C550EAB217@gmail.com>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C55174@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>	<3368F1C2-2B01-43C0-8ACB-75A91D0272CA@ipjustice.org>	<93970187-EA80-4B14-9058-7DAD05E3964A@difference.com.au>	<DF96B27E-4890-4E42-8A5E-0659AE39FA5B@uzh.ch>
	<F94CC3E2-4303-4BC8-BE17-31C550EAB217@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52637C89.7070305@apc.org>

hi all - i also agree with this approach - and thanks David
Joy
On 19/10/2013 11:54 p.m., Maria Farrell wrote:
> Yes, indeed!
>
> Thanks for running, David.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 19 Oct 2013, at 01:46, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:
>
>> Excellent, let's see how this plays, should be fun given the tortured
>> history of the position.  A good test to see whether anything really
>> has changed at CSG....
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2013, at 6:43 AM, David Cake <dave at DIFFERENCE.COM.AU
>> <mailto:dave at DIFFERENCE.COM.AU>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I'm happy to run as the NCSG candidate for Vice Chair. 
>>>
>>> I would be happy to support Jonathan for a second term. If there is
>>> an active campaign to run someone against him we should consider it
>>> (especially Thomas), but I've no objection to Jonathan having a
>>> second term. 
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/10/2013, at 3:22 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and
>>>> we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
>>>>
>>>> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the
>>>> vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward
>>>> to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?
>>>>  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>> *Subject: **REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time
>>>>> table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 *
>>>>> *Date: *October 18, 2013 2:06:07 AM PDT
>>>>> *To: *"'Metalitz, Steven' (met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>)"
>>>>> <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>, "Rosette, Kristina"
>>>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, Claudio Di Gangi
>>>>> <cdigangi at inta.org <mailto:cdigangi at inta.org>>,
>>>>> "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>"
>>>>> <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, 'Marilyn Cade'
>>>>> <marilynscade at hotmail.com <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>>,
>>>>> "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>)"
>>>>> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, WUKnoben
>>>>> <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
>>>>> <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>>, Anthony Harris
>>>>> <harris at cabase.org.ar <mailto:harris at cabase.org.ar>>, Robin Gross
>>>>> <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>, William Drake
>>>>> <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>, "marie-laure
>>>>> Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>)"
>>>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, Lanre Ajayi
>>>>> <lanre at pinet.com.ng <mailto:lanre at pinet.com.ng>>, "Jen Wolfe
>>>>> (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>)"
>>>>> <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>>
>>>>> *Cc: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>  
>>>>> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the
>>>>> following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted
>>>>> below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the
>>>>> 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
>>>>> *Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to
>>>>> the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.*
>>>>>  
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>>>>>  
>>>>> *Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013*
>>>>> *Nomination Process -- September to November 2013*
>>>>> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
>>>>> "Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO
>>>>> Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to
>>>>> nominate its candidate."
>>>>>
>>>>> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process
>>>>> in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its
>>>>> nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the
>>>>> end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October
>>>>> 2013. *
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO
>>>>> Secretariat
>>>>>
>>>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>), as soon as possible
>>>>> after they have been selected by their house, and not later
>>>>> than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a
>>>>> member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the
>>>>> non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as
>>>>> chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may,
>>>>> separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
>>>>> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
>>>>>
>>>>> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>). The GNSO Secretariat
>>>>> will transmit each House's nomination to the Council list as soon
>>>>> as it is received.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Procedure in Buenos Aires -- November 2013*
>>>>>
>>>>> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council
>>>>> Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the
>>>>> weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
>>>>>
>>>>> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place
>>>>> during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20
>>>>> November 2013.
>>>>> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be
>>>>> split in two parts:
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Adjourn the meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of
>>>>> the Chair
>>>>>  
>>>>> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting
>>>>> (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council
>>>>> meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's
>>>>> first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately
>>>>> following the 2013 AGM
>>>>>  
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>  
>>>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>>>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>>>>>  
>>>>
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From aelsadr  Sun Oct 20 16:29:37 2013
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:29:37 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time
	table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
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+1. From what I could gather from previous Council meetings, Jonathan is a Chair we can live with. Since others who've worked with him are agreeable to supporting him, then cool.

?, and thanks to David for accepting to be nominated for VC. Is the CSG putting forward a candidate, or are we taking turns??

Thanks.

Amr

On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I would tend to support Jonathan unless we have a good reason not to, but I'm open to what others think.
> 
> Maria 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Oct 2013, at 20:27, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2013, at 03:22, Robin Gross wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> NCSG should put forward a candidate for GNSO Council Vice-Chair and we also need to have a candidate for GNSO Council Chair.
>>> 
>>> I've asked David Cake if he was willing to be serve as the vice-chair and he agreed, so I propose we put David's name forward to the CSG as our candidate for vice-chair.  Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Any specific suggestions as to a candidate for GNSO Council Chair?  I understand Jonathan is willing to run again.
>> 
>> 
>> I support David.
>> 
>> And I think we should consider supporting Jonathan for another term.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
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From robin  Tue Oct 22 05:06:59 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:06:59 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Vice chair of  GNSO council (and chair)
References: <E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F6223FFFCDC@LAEX02.MSK.local>
Message-ID: <06C9B88F-FF82-4BD5-88B7-0B2816C535A3@IPJUSTICE.ORG>

fyi:

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>
> Subject: RE: Vice chair of GNSO council (and chair) 
> Date: October 21, 2013 9:08:04 AM PDT
> To: 'Robin Gross' <robin at ipjustice.org>
> 
> Thanks Robin.  I have circulated this news to the CSG Executive Committee and will get back in touch with you on it as soon as possible.
>  
> Steve
>  
> From: Robin Gross [mailto:robin at ipjustice.org] 
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 5:51 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Subject: Re: Vice chair of GNSO council (and chair)
>  
> Hi Steve,
>  
> NCSG will nominate David Cake for vice-chair of GNSO.
>  
> Please let me know if CSG will accept David as vice-chair.
>  
> Thank you,
> Robin
> 
> On Oct 15, 2013, at 12:55 AM, "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
>  
> I hope this finds you well. 
>  
> The attached agreement reached last February provides for NCSG to put forward the initial sole candidate to be vice chair of GNSO council beginning with the Buenos Aires meeting.  Since that meeting is not too far off, the CSG executive committee has asked me to inquire of you, as NCSG chair, when the NCSG anticipates putting forward its candidate.  This information would be very helpful to us in our planning for Buenos Aires. 
>  
> On a separate topic, does NCSG anticipate putting forward any candidate to serve as chair of the GNSO Council?   
>  
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. 
>  
> Steve Metalitz, on behalf of CSG Executive Committee   
>  
>  
> From: Metalitz, Steven 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:00 PM
> To: 'Robin Gross'
> Cc: Chris LaHatte; Avri Doria; Tony Holmes; Marilyn Cade; Kristina Rosette; Wendy Seltzer (wendy at seltzer.com); Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
> Subject: RE: Vice Chair Position -- CSG support
>  
> I believe the attached memorializes the agreement, reflecting the wording changes proposed and agreed to in the e-mail chain below.  Under separate cover I have transmitted to Jonathan Robinson our agreed message.   Thanks again to all. 
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <terms of agreement re vice chair 021213 (5134695).DOCX>

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From avri  Sun Oct 27 12:22:22 2013
From: avri (avri)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 06:22:22 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Sign-On Statement regarding the 2014 Internet Governance
 Summit in Brazil
Message-ID: <w00577o73enbfjcnxmpgsuea.1382869185234@email.android.com>

http://igcaucus.org/sign-on.html

Do we want to endorse as ncsg?

avri

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From rudi.vansnick  Sun Oct 27 21:51:18 2013
From: rudi.vansnick (Rudi Vansnick)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:51:18 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Sign-On Statement regarding the 2014 Internet
	Governance Summit in Brazil
In-Reply-To: <w00577o73enbfjcnxmpgsuea.1382869185234@email.android.com>
References: <w00577o73enbfjcnxmpgsuea.1382869185234@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <8A57E487-F2B1-4718-B677-D41FC5216E76@isoc.be>

I?m bringing this to NPOC?s policy committee. We will respond asap, taken into account today is Sunday !

Rudi Vansnick
NPOC chair Policy Committee


Op 27-okt.-2013, om 11:22 heeft avri <avri at acm.org> het volgende geschreven:

> http://igcaucus.org/sign-on.html
> 
> Do we want to endorse as ncsg?
> 
> avri
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg

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From robin  Mon Oct 28 22:44:04 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:44:04 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] 29 October 16:00 UTC -> NCSG Open Membership Policy
	Meeting - AGENDA & Remote Participation Details
Message-ID: <ED26EB1B-7D04-4A4A-9C44-329D11292534@ipjustice.org>

Dear All:

All NCSG members are welcome and encouraged to participate in tomorrow's NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting.  This meeting is typically held 2-days before each GNSO Counsel Meeting so NCSG's GNSO Counselors can discuss the counsel's agenda with the NCSG membership and receive input from the membership to contribute to Thursday's GNSO Counsel Meeting.  We also review our inputs and policy contributions into ICANN working groups, task forces, and open comment periods.  Below is the draft discussion agenda and remote participate details so you may each join in tomorrow's call and contribute to the discussion.

Thank you,
Robin

NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting
 29 October 2013 - Tuesday
 16:00 -18:00 UTC

Remote Participation Details:
Telephone:  http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/NCSG/NCSG_Passcodes.htm
Adobe Connect:  https://icann.adobeconnect.com/_a819976787/ncsg/
Other Time Zones: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=NCSG+Open+Membership+Policy+Meeting&iso=20131029T16&ah=2

DRAFT DISCUSSION AGENDA

I.    Update from IGF 2013 Discussions
      See: http://www.intgovforum.org

II.   31 Oct. GNSO Meeting Preparations
      See: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+31+October+2013
 A.  All 6 NCSG GNSO Counselors Prepared to Participate or Request Proxy?
 B.  Motions for a Vote on Thursday
 C.  Discussion Items

III.   Update on ICANN Working Groups / Task Forces
 A.  WHOIS Working Groups
 B.  Accountability and Transparency Review Team
 C.  Special Privileges for RedCross, Olympic Cmte, InterGov Orgs Working Group

IV.  Open Comment Periods (as if it mattered)
     See:  http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment

V.   Planning for ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires
   NCSG Mtgs Plan:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dHN4SURHZUZSSUswQ3BJXzl4ZWUzNXc&usp=sharing
   ICANN Mtgs Plan:  http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/

VI.  AOB
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From robin  Tue Oct 29 16:50:21 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:50:21 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: URGENT REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House:
	Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C556FF@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
Message-ID: <F924EEE0-89AF-46D3-84E9-0680C4B26230@ipjustice.org>

Any final recommendations?

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Subject: URGENT REMINDER: Non Contracted Parties House: Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013 
> Date: October 29, 2013 2:57:56 AM PDT
> To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>, "'Rosette, Kristina' (krosette at cov.com)" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
> Cc: "Winterfeldt, Brian J. (brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com)" <brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>, "Novoa, Osvaldo" <onovoa at Antel.com.uy>, "john at crediblecontext.com" <john at crediblecontext.com>, "zahid at dndrc.com" <zahid at dndrc.com>, "Petter Rindforth (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu) (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu)" <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>, "gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org" <gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
> 
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> This is an URGENT REMINDER!
>  
> At the GNSO Council meeting on Thursday, 10 October 2013, the following procedure and proposed time table was adopted, noted below, to elect the GNSO Council chair during the course of the 2013 annual meeting in Buenos Aires. 
> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 25 October 2013.
>  
> http://gnso.icann.org/elections/proposed-council-chair-02oct13-en.pdf
>  
> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 25 October 2013.
> 
> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 01 November 2013.
> 
> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
> 
> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
> 
> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
> ? Adjourn the meeting
> 
> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>  
> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>  
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thank you.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Glen
>  
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> http://gnso.icann.org
>  

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From robin  Tue Oct 29 17:56:51 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:56:51 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Now ->29 October 16:00 UTC - NCSG Open Membership Policy
	Meeting - AGENDA & Remote Participation Details
In-Reply-To: <ED26EB1B-7D04-4A4A-9C44-329D11292534@ipjustice.org>
References: <ED26EB1B-7D04-4A4A-9C44-329D11292534@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <6CBD3FBD-67DF-4420-90B6-E2453E21C8B2@ipjustice.org>

> Dear All:
> 
> All NCSG members are welcome and encouraged to participate in tomorrow's NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting.  This meeting is typically held 2-days before each GNSO Counsel Meeting so NCSG's GNSO Counselors can discuss the counsel's agenda with the NCSG membership and receive input from the membership to contribute to Thursday's GNSO Counsel Meeting.  We also review our inputs and policy contributions into ICANN working groups, task forces, and open comment periods.  Below is the draft discussion agenda and remote participate details so you may each join in tomorrow's call and contribute to the discussion.
> 
> Thank you,
> Robin
> 
> NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting
>  29 October 2013 - Tuesday
>  16:00 -18:00 UTC
> 
> Remote Participation Details:
> Telephone:  http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/NCSG/NCSG_Passcodes.htm
> Adobe Connect:  https://icann.adobeconnect.com/_a819976787/ncsg/
> Other Time Zones: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=NCSG+Open+Membership+Policy+Meeting&iso=20131029T16&ah=2
> 
> DRAFT DISCUSSION AGENDA
> 
> I.    Update from IGF 2013 Discussions
>       See: http://www.intgovforum.org
> 
> II.   31 Oct. GNSO Meeting Preparations
>       See: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+31+October+2013
>  A.  All 6 NCSG GNSO Counselors Prepared to Participate or Request Proxy?
>  B.  Motions for a Vote on Thursday
>  C.  Discussion Items
> 
> III.   Update on ICANN Working Groups / Task Forces
>  A.  WHOIS Working Groups
>  B.  Accountability and Transparency Review Team
>  C.  Special Privileges for RedCross, Olympic Cmte, InterGov Orgs Working Group
> 
> IV.  Open Comment Periods (as if it mattered)
>      See:  http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment
> 
> V.   Planning for ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires
>    NCSG Mtgs Plan:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dHN4SURHZUZSSUswQ3BJXzl4ZWUzNXc&usp=sharing
>    ICANN Mtgs Plan:  http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/
> 
> VI.  AOB

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From mllemineur  Tue Oct 29 23:39:31 2013
From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 05:39:31 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Now ->29 October 16:00 UTC - NCSG Open Membership
 Policy Meeting - AGENDA & Remote Participation Details
In-Reply-To: <6CBD3FBD-67DF-4420-90B6-E2453E21C8B2@ipjustice.org>
References: <ED26EB1B-7D04-4A4A-9C44-329D11292534@ipjustice.org>
	<6CBD3FBD-67DF-4420-90B6-E2453E21C8B2@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CAD3sNqEEwBXTeCxxzmObE_iFSjgWnhp8K1jyJTxZNrrZ2MY7tA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

Apologies but I arrived very late last night from Bali and was not able to
make it for this morning conference call. I trust you had a good meeting.

Best,

Marie-laure


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> All NCSG members are welcome and encouraged to participate in tomorrow's
> NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting.  This meeting is typically held 2-days
> before each GNSO Counsel Meeting so NCSG's GNSO Counselors can discuss the
> counsel's agenda with the NCSG membership and receive input from the
> membership to contribute to Thursday's GNSO Counsel Meeting.  We also
> review our inputs and policy contributions into ICANN working groups, task
> forces, and open comment periods.  Below is the draft discussion agenda and
> remote participate details so you may each join in tomorrow's call and
> contribute to the discussion.
>
> Thank you,
> Robin
>
> *NCSG Open Membership Policy Meeting*
> * 29 October 2013 - Tuesday*
> * 16:00 -18:00 UTC*
> *
> *
> *Remote Participation Details*:
> Telephone:  http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/NCSG/NCSG_Passcodes.htm
> Adobe Connect:  https://icann.adobeconnect.com/_a819976787/ncsg/
> Other Time Zones:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=NCSG+Open+Membership+Policy+Meeting&iso=20131029T16&ah=2
>
> *DRAFT DISCUSSION AGENDA*
>
> *I.    Update from IGF 2013 Discussions*
>       See: http://www.intgovforum.org
>
> *II.   31 Oct. GNSO Meeting Preparations*
>       See:
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+31+October+2013
>  A.  *All 6 NCSG GNSO Counselors Prepared to Participate or Request Proxy?
> *
>  B.  Motions for a Vote on Thursday
>  C.  Discussion Items
>
> *III.   Update on ICANN Working Groups / Task Forces*
>  A.  WHOIS Working Groups
>  B.  Accountability and Transparency Review Team
>  C.  Special Privileges for RedCross, Olympic Cmte, InterGov Orgs Working
> Group
>
> *IV.  Open Comment Periods (as if it mattered)*
>      See:  http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment
>
> *V.   Planning for ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires*
> *   *NCSG Mtgs Plan:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dHN4SURHZUZSSUswQ3BJXzl4ZWUzNXc&usp=sharing
> *   *ICANN Mtgs Plan:  http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/
> *
> *
> *VI.  AOB*
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
>
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From robin  Wed Oct 30 14:06:46 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 05:06:46 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Non Contracted Parties House: Nomination period for
	GNSO Council Chair Election Extended to 5 November 2013
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5F017F65C5573D@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
Message-ID: <21CB8E43-3880-4EC0-A5B2-C1A0C5083D72@ipjustice.org>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Subject: Non Contracted Parties House: Nomination period for GNSO Council Chair Election Extended to 5 November 2013 
> Date: October 29, 2013 10:00:10 AM PDT
> To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>, "'Rosette, Kristina' (krosette at cov.com)" <krosette at cov.com>, Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi at inta.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, 'Marilyn Cade' <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Anthony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com)" <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Lanre Ajayi <lanre at pinet.com.ng>, "Jen Wolfe (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com)" <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>
> Cc: "Winterfeldt, Brian J. (brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com)" <brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>, "Novoa, Osvaldo" <onovoa at Antel.com.uy>, "john at crediblecontext.com" <john at crediblecontext.com>, "zahid at dndrc.com" <zahid at dndrc.com>, "Petter Rindforth (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu) (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu)" <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>, Glen de Saint G?ry <gnso-secretariat at gnso.icann.org>, Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth at icann.org>
> 
> Dear All,
>  
> Pursuant to the procedures adopted by the GNSO Council on 10 October 2013 to elect a GNSO Council Chair, nominations for the election of the GNSO Council Chair closed on 25 October 2013. No nominations were received by that date. In consultation with Senior Policy Staff, the nomination period has been extended for one week from today, that is, nominations will close on Tuesday, 5 November 2013 at 23:59 UTC. The basic procedure remains and the new dates are found below:
> 
> Please note that the name of the nominee should be submitted to the GNSO Secretariat not later than 5 November 2013.
>  
> Proposed time table for election of the GNSO Council Chair 2013
> Nomination Process ? September to November 2013
> Per the GNSO Operating Procedures (Section 2.2.b):
> ?Each house will be allowed to nominate one candidate for GNSO Council Chair. Each house is responsible for determining how to nominate its candidate.?
> To allow for the possibility of a timely Council election process in Buenos Aires, each house of the Council is asked to submit its nominee for the GNSO Council chair, for the term commencing at the end of the 2013 ICANN annual meeting, not later than 5 November 2013.
> 
> Nominees shall submit a candidacy statement in writing to the GNSO Secretariat
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org), as soon as possible after they have been selected by their house, and not later than 23:59 UTC on 08 November 2013.
> 
> Note: A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to be a member of the house nominating the candidate. Further, should the non-voting Nominating Committee appointee (NCA) be elected as chair, he/she would be a non-voting chair. The two houses may, separately, select the same candidate from the pool if they so wish.
> House nominations for Council Chair should be sent to
> (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). The GNSO Secretariat will transmit each House?s nomination to the Council list as soon as it is received.
> 
> Procedure in Buenos Aires ? November 2013
> Each candidate will have the opportunity of meeting with Council Members during the GNSO working sessions in Buenos Aires on the weekend of16/17 November 2013 (remote participation possible).
> 
> Election of the chair by voting of the Council will take place during the Council meeting in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, 20 November 2013.
> In order for the vote to take place, the Council meeting will be split in two parts:
> ? Standard, open and public Council meeting with the current Council.
> ? Adjourn the meeting
> 
> ? Re-seat the Council with the new Councilors.
> ? Re-start new meeting, with one specific agenda item: Election of the Chair
>  
> The current chair term ends at end of 2013 Annual General Meeting (AGM). The current Chair will therefore run the public council meeting, the chair election and Thursday wrap-up. The new Chair's first meeting will be the first teleconference immediately following the 2013 AGM
>  
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thank you.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Glen
>  
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> http://gnso.icann.org
>  
>  
>  
>  

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