[PC-NCSG] (Se) electing a new Chair and Alternate Chair

Sat Dec 14 18:13:03 EET 2013

Hi,

Other than that meaning I remain alternate chair a while longer, I too think it is the right thing to do.

But ?going forward I would appreciate the efforts of those who would be chairs and alternate chairs in terms of starting to get things back into gear from where the old functionaries sort of let it go to seed. For example we need to update tables of outstanding comments and who is working on then. And we need to make sure we know who the NCSG members of wgs are so we know who can keep track, who can report and where they are gaps.

With TART2 being in its last weeks and consuming every breath until Sylvester, I can do little more for ncsg beyond running this selection process, g-council cruft, and continuing wg work.

avri

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From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> 
Date: 12/14/2013  10:11  (GMT-05:00) 
To: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> 
Cc: NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org> 
Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] (Se) electing a new Chair and Alternate Chair 

That makes sense to me. Looking forward to the election results.?

Thanks.?

Amr

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On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:

Hi

And actually, EC finishes an election Tuesday, and the first order of business for the new EC will be to fill appointed slots. ?So if we could please hold off a couple days and give members a chance to put their hats in the ring before the EC selects, that would be procedurally preferable to a few of us deciding here.

Thanks

Bill

On Dec 13, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> wrote:

Hello again,

To answer a few other questions that I failed to on my mobile earlier:

1. I would be willing to be a third candidate for either the chair or alternate chair duties. If we decide to only have a team of two, I would prefer to not be one of them.
2. I know Rudi volunteered to be on the PC leadership team, but I have a thought on this; Rudi is already the NPOC PC chair. To have him be a chair or alternate chair for the NCSG PC would be (IMHO) somewhat redundant. I say this because (for example) in a situation where we are looking for urgent NPOC input on a policy statement; if Rudi is not available for any reason, then his duties on both PCs will be compromised. I suggest (and this is only a suggestion to be decided by Rudi and other NCSG PC members from NPOC) that another NPOC candidate be nominated.
3. I am fine with either the online polling/voting or the rough consensus methods Avri suggested.

At this point, I would appreciate hearing more from the rest of the PC members on their opinions regarding a team of three vs. a team of two and how we will decide. If Rudi and NPOC folks would weigh in on my suggestion on the NPOC candidate, I?d also be grateful.

Thanks everyone.

Amr

On Dec 13, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:

Hi,

Distribution of work amongst a team of three was my reasoning for the suggestion. However, balance was honestly not what I was taking into consideration.

My hope is that two alternate chairs from the two constituencies would ensure more robust input to policy statements, either for or against NCSG endorsement. We've had a problem with that in the past.

Sorry for the short notes. I'm typing on my phone in the middle of a snowy day. :)

Thanks.

Amr

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On Dec 13, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

Hi,

True only the chair role is mandated. We insitituted the alternate chair last year just to make sure the work got done by somebody. But looking at our work performance, perhasp 2 alternates are indeed necessary.

Did you have a nominee / volunteer in mind?

As for balancing between constituencies, if we balance with 2,then we unbalance with 3.
Too bad we don't have either more constituencies or more affiliated NCSG members.

avri

On 12/13/2013 9:05 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
Hi Avri,

The NCSG charter doesn't limit the number of PC alternate chairs. If others are agreeable, I suggest having two alternates. Perhaps one from each constituency.

Thanks.

Amr

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On Dec 13, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:

Hi,

Ok, so we have two people willing to stand for Chair/Alternate chair.

- anyone else interested or can i close the nomination process in 24 hours.

Also in that time period please let the list know whether you are comfortable, assuming we have only 2 candidates, to let them work out roles for themselves.

If we are not, or if we have more than 2 candidates, I would then suggest a online poll (ysing doodle or some such) where we could vote, with the top vote getter being chair, and the second vote getter being alternate chair.

Though, given we are a rough consensus sort of body, if we can find a solution without needing to poll, that would seem good to me.

avri
acting as alternate-chair

On 12/10/2013 10:50 AM, Maria Farrell wrote:
Hi all and thanks Avri,

I'm happy to put my name forward with Rudi's for this.

cheers, m

On 10 December 2013 15:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

my understanding that PC members decide about chairs , as Avri explained. and we should give people enough time to think and decide.I am not sure that everybody can make it for today call.

Rafik

2013/12/11 Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
Hi Avri,

With the NCSG monthly meeting in front of us (in about 1 hour) I think we can get consensus today.
I?m willing to take seat, but will of course allow Maria to respond also to this request.

See you in 1 hour.

Rudi Vansnick
NPOC chair Policy Committee
NPOC treasurer
rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
www.npoc.org

Op 10-dec.-2013, om 14:44 heeft Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> het volgende geschreven:

Hi,

With a new policy committee, it is time to elect a new chair/alt-chair combo.

As the outgoing alt-chair who does not wish to remain in a chairing role, I am making a few suggestions.

I would like to suggest that we fill these roles with one person from NPOC and one person from NCUC.

I suggest that we pick these two and then let them decide between themselves which will take what role. Alternatively the committee as a whole could decide using rough consensus.

I would like to suggest that we consider asking Maria and Rudy to take on the policy committee leadership for the next year.

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