[PC-NCSG] [] Proposed Agenda for the GNSO Council Public Meeting in Beijing 10 April 2013 at 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time)
joy
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Hi - just going back to Wendy's original proposals, it seems, if I can
summarise inputs so far:
1. there is not support for a motion on the RAA issues, but there is
support for proposing a topic for GNSO Council discussion of the more
general issue regarding concerns about the current "routing problems"
with GNSO Council decision making .... Wendy suggested this be framed
around:
>>> I'd suggest we at least propose a conversation about the
>>> matters of bottom-up versus top-down policy-making, and how the
>>> Council can take a leadership role in bringing issues up from
>>> the bottom. .
Wendy also suggested:
2. >> A motion of censure on TMCH "strawman" adoption?
is there any support for this idea?
We have until tomorrow to table other items for the Council meeting
Cheers
Joy
On 2/04/2013 6:21 a.m., Brenden Kuerbis wrote:
> Just catching up here.
>
> I definitely support proposing a discussion exploring the problem
> of GNSO processes being undermined. And I'm leaning toward
> proposing a motion or formal letter, even though it will not likely
> succeed, as a matter of principle. What do we have to lose?
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> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:05 AM, <Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu
> <mailto:Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu>> wrote:
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> Suggest either motion or formal letter - perhaps making a more
> general point about undermining GNSO processes and give examples,
> e.g. TMCH etc. If motion, need support from elsewhere and if
> passed, needs to be sure it gets passed on to Board as matter of
> urgency and not just published on web and minutes.
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> If neither, then a conversation certainly at minimum, for us and
> other groups e.g. contracted parties to bring up to Board at F2F
> meetings.
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> Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Faculty Chair, Global IP
> Partnerships Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW
> HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA
> Email: mary.wong at law.unh.edu <mailto:mary.wong at law.unh.edu> Phone:
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> indeed rafik, indeed :-)
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> On 1/04/2013 2:15 p.m., Rafik Dammak wrote:
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>> Rafik Dammak @rafik "fight for the users"
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>> Hi Joy,
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>> On 1/04/2013 5:37 a.m., Wendy Seltzer wrote:
>>> We have until Tuesday, April 2, to make motions. We can also
>>> request items for discussion even if we don't have motions on
>>> the table. We might work with Jeff and others to propose a
>>> motion on the privacy/proxy "accreditation," or might better
>>> wait for more conversations (not sure).
>>>
>>> I'd suggest we at least propose a conversation about the
>>> matters of bottom-up versus top-down policy-making, and how the
>>> Council can take a leadership role in bringing issues up from
>>> the bottom.
>> JL: good idea - we need to call out the IPC for constantly
>> undermining the Council - why will noone talk about this? I
>> think we also need to inject a rule of law thread to this ie that
>> policy should stand once it is set until it is re-set through
>> proper process. happy to support this.
>>
>>
>> we can remind them the costa rica tragicomedy about the "fall of
>> GNSO" when we deferred the motion about IOC , maybe we are in
>> that situation thanks to those who blamed us in that time
>>
>> Rafik
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>>>
>>> Do we want to propose a motion that ICANN should extend the
>>> current RAA to new gTLDs until the GNSO adopts a consensus
>>> supporting the policy changes in any proposed new RAA?
>> JL: Also happy with this - if the Registrars do not support it,
>> let them be on record for that. happy to help with drafting it.
>>>
>>> A motion of censure on TMCH "strawman" adoption?
>>>
>>> Propose a long-term planning committee?
>>>
>>> Discussion of recommendations to nom-comm on what they should
>>> do with their appointees to GNSO Council?
>>>
>>> --Wendy
>>>
>>> On 03/31/2013 12:19 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>> Reminder: It is the responsibility of the GNSO
>>>> Representatives to actively advance the policy positions of
>>>> the membership on the GNSO Council.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Robin
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many issues has NCSG submitted motions for?
>>>>>
>>>>> avri
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31 Mar 2013, at 10:35, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not much meat on this council agenda. Where are all the
>>>>>> weighty issues that are tying ICANN into knots? Shouldn't
>>>>>> some of them be on the council's agenda for discussion at
>>>>>> least?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>> Date: March 31,
>>>>>>> 2013 6:41:28 AM PDT To: liaison6c
>>>>>>> <liaison6c at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:liaison6c at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>>>> <mailto:liaison6c at gnso.icann.org
> <mailto:liaison6c at gnso.icann.org>>>
>> Subject: [liaison6c] Proposed
>>>>>>> Agenda for the GNSO Council Public Meeting in Beijing
>>>>>>> 10 April 2013 at 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All, Please find the proposed Agenda for the GNSO
>>>>>>> Council Public Meeting in Beijing 10 April 2013 at
>>>>>>> 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time).
>>>>>>> http://beijing46.icann.org/node/37155 The agenda is
>>>>>>> also published on the Wiki at:
>>>>>>>
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> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+10+April+2013
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> Motions may be viewed at:
>>>>>>>
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> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+10+April+2013
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> http://beijing46.icann.org/node/37155
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This agenda was established according to the GNSO
>>>>>>> Council Operating Procedures approved 13 September
>>>>>>> 2012 for the GNSO Council and updated. http://
>>>>>>>
>> gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.pdf
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<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.pdf>
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> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.pdf>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> For convenience:
>>>>>>> ? An excerpt of the ICANN Bylaws defining the voting
>>>>>>> thresholds is provided in Appendix 1 at the end of
>>>>>>> this agenda. ? An excerpt from the Council Operating
>>>>>>> Procedures defining the absentee voting procedures is
>>>>>>> provided in Appendix 2 at the end of this agenda.
>>>>>>> Meeting Times 07:15 UTC http://tinyurl.com/cu3adns
>>>>>>> Coordinated Universal Time 07:15 UTC 00:15 Los Angeles;
>>>>>>> 03:15 Washington; 08:15 London; 09:15 Paris; 19:15
>>>>>>> Wellington
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dial-in numbers will be sent individually to Council
>>>>>>> members. Councilors should notify the GNSO Secretariat
>>>>>>> in advance if a dial out call is needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15:15 - 17:30 Council Public Forum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presentations by Stakeholder Groups and Constituency
>>>>>>> Leaders (60 minutes)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ? Registries Stakeholder Group ? Keith Drazek ?
>>>>>>> Registrars Stakeholder Group ? Matt Serlin ? Non
>>>>>>> Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) ? Bill Drake ?
>>>>>>> Non Commercial Stakeholders Constituency ? Robin Gross
>>>>>>> ? Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency ?
>>>>>>> Alain Berranger. ? Commercial and Business Users
>>>>>>> Constituency (BC) ? Elisa Cooper ? Intellectual
>>>>>>> Property Constituency (IPC) ? Kristina Rosette ?
>>>>>>> Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers
>>>>>>> (ISPCP) ? Tony Holmes Break (10 minutes) Item 1:
>>>>>>> Administrative matters (10 minutes) 1.1 Roll Call 1.2
>>>>>>> Statement of interest updates 1.3 Review/amend agenda
>>>>>>> 1.4. Note the status of minutes for the previous
>>>>>>> Council meeting per the GNSO Operating Procedures:
>>>>>>> Draft Minutes of the GNSO Council meeting 14 March 2013
>>>>>>> approved on 30 March 2013.
>>>>>>>
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg14383.html
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> 1.5. GNSO Projects List
>>>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/projects-list.pdf ?
>>>>>>> Review main changes. ? Comments and/or questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 2: Opening Remarks from Chair (10 minutes) Review
>>>>>>> focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes
>>>>>>> / topics Include brief review of Projects List and
>>>>>>> Action List
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 3: Consent agenda ([0] minutes) TBC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 4: MOTION - Initiation of a Policy Development
>>>>>>> Process (PDP) on the Translation and Transliteration
>>>>>>> of Contact Information (10 minutes) A Final Issue
>>>>>>> Report translation and transliteration of contact
>>>>>>> information was submitted to the GNSO Council on 21
>>>>>>> March 2013 (see http://gnso.icann.org/en/library). The
>>>>>>> Final Issue Report recommends that the GNSO Council
>>>>>>> should initiate a Policy Development Process (PDP)
>>>>>>> limited to the issues discussed in this report but
>>>>>>> delay the next steps in the PDP until the Expert
>>>>>>> Working Group on gTLD Directory Services completes its
>>>>>>> recommendations, in May 2013 with a possible extension,
>>>>>>> in order to ensure that the resulting policy
>>>>>>> recommendations would be consistent with any new model
>>>>>>> or approaches to contact data that may result from the
>>>>>>> Expert Working Group?s deliberations;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As recommended by the WHOIS Policy Review Team the
>>>>>>> Final Issue Report also recommends that ICANN should
>>>>>>> commission a study on the commercial feasibility of
>>>>>>> translation or transliteration systems for
>>>>>>> internationalized contact data, which is expected to
>>>>>>> help inform the PDP Working Group in its
>>>>>>> deliberations;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN?s General Counsel has confirmed that the topic
>>>>>>> is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy
>>>>>>> process and within the scope of the GNSO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link to motion
>>>>>>>
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> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+10+April+2013
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> 4.1 Reading of the motion ().
>>>>>>> 4.2 Discussion of motion and next steps. 4.3 Vote.
>>>>>>> Item 5: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Policy vs. Implementation
>>>>>>> (15 minutes) Recent issues highlight an ongoing
>>>>>>> broader issue regarding the boundary between policy
>>>>>>> development and implementation work as well as the
>>>>>>> effective integration of policy development and
>>>>>>> integration work from the outset.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition, the Council is increasingly asked to
>>>>>>> consider issues for policy guidance and may well need
>>>>>>> to look at the evolution of its own work and processes
>>>>>>> to accommodate this type of request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN Staff published a paper intended to facilitate
>>>>>>> further community discussions on this topic.
>>>>>>> Discussions on the Council mailing list and at
>>>>>>> subsequent meetings indicate that this is an area of
>>>>>>> fundamental interest to the Council.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following further community discussion in Beijing the
>>>>>>> Council is to discuss the current position and to
>>>>>>> consider next steps from a GNSO Council perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.1 Discussion 5.2 Next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 6: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Template to request an
>>>>>>> Issues Report (10 minutes)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One outcome from the Operations and Organisation
>>>>>>> meeting that GNSO Council Leadership held with ICANN
>>>>>>> staff in Amsterdam earlier this year, was to develop an
>>>>>>> online template to complete the request for an Issue
>>>>>>> Report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The objective of this tool is to encourage requestors
>>>>>>> to gather as much information as possible and engage
>>>>>>> in early discussions with others prior to submitting a
>>>>>>> request for an Issue Report. The intended outcome is
>>>>>>> that by encouraging completion of all the information
>>>>>>> requested in the template, it will be possible to
>>>>>>> identify what information may still be needed and
>>>>>>> encourage collaboration between different interested
>>>>>>> parties at an early stage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The template (https://community.icann.org/x/GQllAg)
>>>>>>> can be completed by either by following the
>>>>>>> instructions or by downloading the word template from
>>>>>>> the same page. Once completed, Council members will be
>>>>>>> able to either create a PDF and submit that together
>>>>>>> with a motion to the Council mailing list, or insert
>>>>>>> the relevant wiki link in the motion. Please note that
>>>>>>> this template is tailored to requests for Issue Reports
>>>>>>> as defined in the PDP Manual. The template is still in
>>>>>>> draft form and the Council is to discuss its
>>>>>>> usefulness, consider accepting it for future issue
>>>>>>> reports and consider also where similar templates could
>>>>>>> be used elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6.1 ? Discussion 6.2 ? Next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 7: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Outcomes from sessions
>>>>>>> in Beijing (15 minutes) A series of main session
>>>>>>> meetings will have taken place as well as meetings
>>>>>>> between the Council and other key stakeholders. This
>>>>>>> item represents an opportunity to capture and review
>>>>>>> any key outcomes or actions arising from those
>>>>>>> meetings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7.1 ? Discussion 7.2 ? Next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item 8: Any Other Business (5 minutes)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open Microphone Appendix 1: GNSO Council Voting
>>>>>>> Thresholds (ICANN Bylaws, Article X, Section 3) 9.
>>>>>>> Except as otherwise specified in these Bylaws, Annex A
>>>>>>> hereto, or the GNSO Operating Procedures, the default
>>>>>>> threshold to pass a GNSO Council motion or other voting
>>>>>>> action requires a simple majority vote of each House.
>>>>>>> The voting thresholds described below shall apply to
>>>>>>> the following GNSO actions: a. Create an Issues Report:
>>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of more than one-fourth
>>>>>>> (1/4) vote of each House or majority of one House. b.
>>>>>>> Initiate a Policy Development Process ("PDP") Within
>>>>>>> Scope (as described in Annex A): requires an
>>>>>>> affirmative vote of more than one-third (1/3) of each
>>>>>>> House or more than two-thirds (2/3) of one House. c.
>>>>>>> Initiate a PDP Not Within Scope: requires an
>>>>>>> affirmative vote of GNSO Supermajority. d. Approve a
>>>>>>> PDP Team Charter for a PDP Within Scope: requires an
>>>>>>> affirmative vote of more than one-third (1/3) of each
>>>>>>> House or more than two-thirds (2/3) of one House. e.
>>>>>>> Approve a PDP Team Charter for a PDP Not Within Scope:
>>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority.
>>>>>>> f. Changes to an Approved PDP Team Charter: For any PDP
>>>>>>> Team Charter approved under d. or e. above, the GNSO
>>>>>>> Council may approve an amendment to the Charter through
>>>>>>> a simple majority vote of each House. g. Terminate a
>>>>>>> PDP: Once initiated, and prior to the publication of a
>>>>>>> Final Report, the GNSO Council may terminate a PDP only
>>>>>>> for significant cause, upon a motion that passes with a
>>>>>>> GNSO Supermajority Vote in favor of termination. h.
>>>>>>> Approve a PDP Recommendation Without a GNSO
>>>>>>> Supermajority: requires an affirmative vote of a
>>>>>>> majority of each House and further requires that one
>>>>>>> GNSO Council member representative of at least 3 of the
>>>>>>> 4 Stakeholder Groups supports the Recommendation. i.
>>>>>>> Approve a PDP Recommendation With a GNSO Supermajority:
>>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority,
>>>>>>> j. Approve a PDP Recommendation Imposing New
>>>>>>> Obligations on Certain Contracting Parties: where an
>>>>>>> ICANN contract provision specifies that "a two-thirds
>>>>>>> vote of the council" demonstrates the presence of a
>>>>>>> consensus, the GNSO Supermajority vote threshold will
>>>>>>> have to be met or exceeded. k. Modification of Approved
>>>>>>> PDP Recommendation: Prior to Final Approval by the
>>>>>>> ICANN Board, an Approved PDP Recommendation may be
>>>>>>> modified or amended by the GNSO Council with a GNSO
>>>>>>> Supermajority vote. l. A "GNSO Supermajority" shall
>>>>>>> mean: (a) two-thirds (2/3) of the Council members of
>>>>>>> each House, or (b) three-fourths (3/4) of one House and
>>>>>>> a majority of the other House." Appendix 2: Absentee
>>>>>>> Voting Procedures (GNSO Operating Procedures 4.4) 4.4.1
>>>>>>> Applicability Absentee voting is permitted for the
>>>>>>> following limited number of Council motions or
>>>>>>> measures. a. Initiate a Policy Development Process
>>>>>>> (PDP); b. Approve a PDP recommendation; c. Recommend
>>>>>>> amendments to the GNSO Operating Procedures (GOP) or
>>>>>>> ICANN Bylaws; d. Fill a Council position open for
>>>>>>> election. 4.4.2 Absentee ballots, when permitted, must
>>>>>>> be submitted within the announced time limit, which
>>>>>>> shall be 72 hours from the meeting?s adjournment. In
>>>>>>> exceptional circumstances, announced at the time of the
>>>>>>> vote, the Chair may reduce this time to 24 hours or
>>>>>>> extend the time to 7 calendar days, provided such
>>>>>>> amendment is verbally confirmed by all Vice-Chairs
>>>>>>> present. 4.4.3 The GNSO Secretariat will administer,
>>>>>>> record, and tabulate absentee votes according to these
>>>>>>> procedures and will provide reasonable means for
>>>>>>> transmitting and authenticating absentee ballots, which
>>>>>>> could include voting by telephone, e- mail, web-based
>>>>>>> interface, or other technologies as may become
>>>>>>> available. 4.4.4 Absentee balloting does not affect
>>>>>>> quorum requirements. (There must be a quorum for the
>>>>>>> meeting in which the vote is initiated.)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G?ry GNSO
>>>>>>> Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
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>>>>>> IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight
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