[PC-NCSG] [] Proposed Agenda for the GNSO Council Public Meeting in Beijing 10 April 2013 at 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time)

[Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu]

Suggest either motion or formal letter - perhaps making a more general
point about undermining GNSO processes and give examples, e.g. TMCH etc.
If motion, need support from elsewhere and if passed, needs to be sure
it gets passed on to Board as matter of urgency and not just published
on web and minutes. 

If neither, then a conversation certainly at minimum, for us and other
groups e.g. contracted parties to bring up to Board at F2F meetings.


Mary W S Wong
Professor of Law
Faculty Chair, Global IP Partnerships
Chair, Graduate IP Programs
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
Two White Street
Concord, NH 03301
USA
Email: mary.wong at law.unh.edu
Phone: 1-603-513-5143
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>>> 


From:  
joy <joy at apc.org> 

To: 
Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> 

CC: 
<pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org> 

Date:  
3/31/2013 9:27 PM 

Subject:  
Re: [PC-NCSG] [] Proposed Agenda for the GNSO Council Public Meeting in
Beijing 10 April 2013 at 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time) 

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indeed rafik, indeed :-)

On 1/04/2013 2:15 p.m., Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
> Rafik Dammak @rafik "fight for the users"
>
> Hi Joy,
>
> On 1/04/2013 5:37 a.m., Wendy Seltzer wrote:
>> We have until Tuesday, April 2, to make motions. We can also
>> request items for discussion even if we don't have motions on
>> the table. We might work with Jeff and others to propose a motion
>> on the privacy/proxy "accreditation," or might better wait for
>> more conversations (not sure).
>>
>> I'd suggest we at least propose a conversation about the matters
>> of bottom-up versus top-down policy-making, and how the Council
>> can take a leadership role in bringing issues up from the
>> bottom.
> JL: good idea - we need to call out the IPC for constantly
> undermining the Council - why will noone talk about this? I think
> we also need to inject a rule of law thread to this ie that policy
> should stand once it is set until it is re-set through proper
> process. happy to support this.
>
>
> we can remind them the costa rica tragicomedy about the "fall of
> GNSO" when we deferred the motion about IOC , maybe we are in that
> situation thanks to those who blamed us in that time
>
> Rafik
>
>>
>> Do we want to propose a motion that ICANN should extend the
>> current RAA to new gTLDs until the GNSO adopts a consensus
>> supporting the policy changes in any proposed new RAA?
> JL: Also happy with this - if the Registrars do not support it,
> let them be on record for that. happy to help with drafting it.
>>
>> A motion of censure on TMCH "strawman" adoption?
>>
>> Propose a long-term planning committee?
>>
>> Discussion of recommendations to nom-comm on what they should do
>> with their appointees to GNSO Council?
>>
>> --Wendy
>>
>> On 03/31/2013 12:19 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>> Reminder:  It is the responsibility of the GNSO
>>> Representatives to actively advance the policy positions of the
>>> membership on the GNSO Council.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Robin
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>
>>>> How many issues has NCSG submitted motions for?
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>> On 31 Mar 2013, at 10:35, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not much meat on this council agenda.  Where are all the
>>>>> weighty issues that are tying ICANN into knots?
>>>>> Shouldn't some of them be on the council's agenda for
>>>>> discussion at least?
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org
> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>> Date: March 31,
>>>>>> 2013 6:41:28 AM PDT To: liaison6c
>>>>>> <liaison6c at gnso.icann.org
>>>>>> <mailto:liaison6c at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject: [liaison6c] Proposed
>>>>>> Agenda for the GNSO Council Public Meeting in Beijing 10
>>>>>> April 2013 at 07:15 UTC (15:15 Local time)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All, Please find the proposed Agenda for the GNSO
>>>>>> Council Public Meeting in Beijing 10 April 2013 at 07:15
>>>>>> UTC (15:15 Local time).
>>>>>> http://beijing46.icann.org/node/37155 The agenda is also
>>>>>> published on the Wiki at:
>>>>>>
>
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+10+April+2013
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> Motions may be viewed at:
>>>>>>
>
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+10+April+2013
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> http://beijing46.icann.org/node/37155
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This agenda was established according to the GNSO
>>>>>> Council Operating Procedures approved 13 September 2012
>>>>>> for the GNSO Council and updated. http://
>>>>>>
> gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.pdf
>
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.pdf>
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
> For convenience:
>>>>>> ? An excerpt of the ICANN Bylaws defining the voting
>>>>>> thresholds is provided in Appendix 1 at the end of this
>>>>>> agenda. ? An excerpt from the Council Operating
>>>>>> Procedures defining the absentee voting procedures is
>>>>>> provided in Appendix 2 at the end of this agenda. Meeting
>>>>>> Times 07:15 UTC http://tinyurl.com/cu3adns Coordinated
>>>>>> Universal Time 07:15 UTC 00:15 Los Angeles; 03:15
>>>>>> Washington; 08:15 London; 09:15 Paris; 19:15 Wellington
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dial-in numbers will be sent individually to Council
>>>>>> members. Councilors should notify the GNSO Secretariat
>>>>>> in advance if a dial out call is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 15:15 - 17:30 Council Public Forum
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presentations by Stakeholder Groups and Constituency
>>>>>> Leaders (60 minutes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ? Registries Stakeholder Group ? Keith Drazek ?
>>>>>> Registrars Stakeholder Group ? Matt Serlin ? Non
>>>>>> Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) ? Bill Drake ? Non
>>>>>> Commercial Stakeholders Constituency ? Robin Gross ?
>>>>>> Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency ? Alain
>>>>>> Berranger. ? Commercial and Business Users Constituency
>>>>>> (BC) ? Elisa Cooper ? Intellectual Property Constituency
>>>>>> (IPC) ? Kristina Rosette ? Internet Service Providers
>>>>>> and Connectivity Providers  (ISPCP) ? Tony Holmes Break
>>>>>> (10 minutes) Item 1: Administrative matters (10 minutes)
>>>>>> 1.1 Roll Call 1.2 Statement of interest updates 1.3
>>>>>> Review/amend agenda 1.4. Note the status of minutes for
>>>>>> the previous Council meeting per the GNSO Operating
>>>>>> Procedures: Draft Minutes of the GNSO Council meeting 14
>>>>>> March 2013 approved on 30 March 2013.
>>>>>>
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg14383.html
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
> 1.5. GNSO Projects List
>>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/projects-list.pdf ?
>>>>>> Review main changes. ? Comments and/or questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 2: Opening Remarks from Chair (10 minutes) Review
>>>>>> focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes /
>>>>>> topics Include brief review of Projects List and Action
>>>>>> List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 3: Consent agenda ([0] minutes) TBC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 4: MOTION - Initiation of a Policy Development
>>>>>> Process (PDP) on the Translation and Transliteration of
>>>>>> Contact Information (10 minutes) A Final Issue Report
>>>>>> translation and transliteration of contact information
>>>>>> was submitted to the GNSO Council on 21 March 2013 (see
>>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/library). The Final Issue
>>>>>> Report recommends that the GNSO Council should initiate a
>>>>>> Policy Development Process (PDP) limited to the issues
>>>>>> discussed in this report but delay the next steps in the
>>>>>> PDP until the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory
>>>>>> Services completes its recommendations, in May 2013 with
>>>>>> a possible extension, in order to ensure that the
>>>>>> resulting policy recommendations would be consistent with
>>>>>> any new model or approaches to contact data that may
>>>>>> result from the Expert Working Group?s deliberations;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As recommended by the WHOIS Policy Review Team the Final
>>>>>> Issue Report also recommends that ICANN should commission
>>>>>> a study on the commercial feasibility of translation or
>>>>>> transliteration systems for internationalized contact
>>>>>> data, which is expected to help inform the PDP Working
>>>>>> Group in its deliberations;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN?s General Counsel has confirmed that the topic is
>>>>>> properly within the scope of the ICANN policy process
>>>>>> and within the scope of the GNSO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to motion
>>>>>>
>
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+10+April+2013
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> 4.1 Reading of the motion ().
>>>>>> 4.2 Discussion of motion and next steps. 4.3 Vote. Item
>>>>>> 5: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Policy vs. Implementation (15
>>>>>> minutes) Recent issues highlight an ongoing broader
>>>>>> issue regarding the boundary between policy development
>>>>>> and implementation work as well as the effective
>>>>>> integration of policy development and integration work
>>>>>> from the outset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, the Council is increasingly asked to
>>>>>> consider issues for policy guidance and may well need to
>>>>>> look at the evolution of its own work and processes to
>>>>>> accommodate this type of request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN Staff published a paper intended to facilitate
>>>>>> further community discussions on this topic. Discussions
>>>>>> on the Council mailing list and at subsequent meetings
>>>>>> indicate that this is an area of fundamental interest to
>>>>>> the Council.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following further community discussion in Beijing the
>>>>>> Council is to discuss the current position and to
>>>>>> consider next steps from a GNSO Council perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.1 Discussion 5.2 Next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 6: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Template to request an
>>>>>> Issues Report (10 minutes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One outcome from the Operations and Organisation meeting
>>>>>> that GNSO Council Leadership held with ICANN staff in
>>>>>> Amsterdam earlier this year, was to develop an online
>>>>>> template to complete the request for an Issue Report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The objective of this tool is to encourage requestors to
>>>>>> gather as much information as possible and engage in
>>>>>> early discussions with others prior to submitting a
>>>>>> request for an Issue Report. The intended outcome is that
>>>>>> by encouraging completion of all the information
>>>>>> requested in the template, it will be possible to
>>>>>> identify what information may still be needed and
>>>>>> encourage collaboration between different interested
>>>>>> parties at an early stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The template (https://community.icann.org/x/GQllAg) can
>>>>>> be completed by either by following the instructions or
>>>>>> by downloading the word template from the same page.
>>>>>> Once completed, Council members will be able to either
>>>>>> create a PDF and submit that together with a motion to
>>>>>> the Council mailing list, or insert the relevant wiki
>>>>>> link in the motion. Please note that this template is
>>>>>> tailored to requests for Issue Reports as defined in the
>>>>>> PDP Manual. The template is still in draft form and the
>>>>>> Council is to discuss its usefulness, consider accepting
>>>>>> it for future issue reports and consider also where
>>>>>> similar templates could be used elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6.1 ? Discussion 6.2 ? Next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 7: UPDATE & DISCUSSION ? Outcomes from sessions in
>>>>>> Beijing (15 minutes) A series of main session meetings
>>>>>> will have taken place as well as meetings between the
>>>>>> Council and other key stakeholders.  This item represents
>>>>>> an opportunity to capture and review any key outcomes or
>>>>>> actions arising from those meetings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7.1 ? Discussion 7.2 ? Next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 8:  Any Other Business (5 minutes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open Microphone Appendix 1: GNSO Council Voting
>>>>>> Thresholds (ICANN Bylaws, Article X, Section 3) 9. Except
>>>>>> as otherwise specified in these Bylaws, Annex A hereto,
>>>>>> or the GNSO Operating Procedures, the default threshold
>>>>>> to pass a GNSO Council motion or other voting action
>>>>>> requires a simple majority vote of each House. The voting
>>>>>> thresholds described below shall apply to the following
>>>>>> GNSO actions: a. Create an Issues Report: requires an
>>>>>> affirmative vote of more than one-fourth (1/4) vote of
>>>>>> each House or majority of one House. b. Initiate a Policy
>>>>>> Development Process ("PDP") Within Scope (as described in
>>>>>> Annex A): requires an affirmative vote of more than
>>>>>> one-third (1/3) of each House or more than two-thirds
>>>>>> (2/3) of one House. c. Initiate a PDP Not Within Scope:
>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of GNSO Supermajority. d.
>>>>>> Approve a PDP Team Charter for a PDP Within Scope:
>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of more than one-third (1/3)
>>>>>> of each House or more than two-thirds (2/3) of one House.
>>>>>> e. Approve a PDP Team Charter for a PDP Not Within Scope:
>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority. f.
>>>>>> Changes to an Approved PDP Team Charter: For any PDP Team
>>>>>> Charter approved under d. or e. above, the GNSO Council
>>>>>> may approve an amendment to the Charter through a simple
>>>>>> majority vote of each House. g. Terminate a PDP: Once
>>>>>> initiated, and prior to the publication of a Final
>>>>>> Report, the GNSO Council may terminate a PDP only for
>>>>>> significant cause, upon a motion that passes with a GNSO
>>>>>> Supermajority Vote in favor of termination. h. Approve a
>>>>>> PDP Recommendation Without a GNSO Supermajority:
>>>>>> requires an affirmative vote of a majority of each House
>>>>>> and further requires that one GNSO Council member
>>>>>> representative of at least 3 of the 4 Stakeholder Groups
>>>>>> supports the Recommendation. i. Approve a PDP
>>>>>> Recommendation With a GNSO Supermajority: requires an
>>>>>> affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority, j. Approve a
>>>>>> PDP Recommendation Imposing New Obligations on Certain
>>>>>> Contracting Parties: where an ICANN contract provision
>>>>>> specifies that "a two-thirds vote of the council"
>>>>>> demonstrates the presence of a consensus, the GNSO
>>>>>> Supermajority vote threshold will have to be met or
>>>>>> exceeded. k. Modification of Approved PDP
>>>>>> Recommendation: Prior to Final Approval by the ICANN
>>>>>> Board, an Approved PDP Recommendation may be modified or
>>>>>> amended by the GNSO Council with a GNSO Supermajority
>>>>>> vote. l. A "GNSO Supermajority" shall mean: (a)
>>>>>> two-thirds (2/3) of the Council members of each House, or
>>>>>> (b) three-fourths (3/4) of one House and a majority of
>>>>>> the other House." Appendix 2: Absentee Voting Procedures
>>>>>> (GNSO Operating Procedures 4.4) 4.4.1 Applicability
>>>>>> Absentee voting is permitted for the following limited
>>>>>> number of Council motions or measures. a. Initiate a
>>>>>> Policy Development Process (PDP); b. Approve a PDP
>>>>>> recommendation; c. Recommend amendments to the GNSO
>>>>>> Operating Procedures (GOP) or ICANN Bylaws; d. Fill a
>>>>>> Council position open for election. 4.4.2 Absentee
>>>>>> ballots, when permitted, must be submitted within the
>>>>>> announced time limit, which shall be 72 hours from the
>>>>>> meeting?s adjournment. In exceptional circumstances,
>>>>>> announced at the time of the vote, the Chair may reduce
>>>>>> this time to 24 hours or extend the time to 7 calendar
>>>>>> days, provided such amendment is verbally confirmed by
>>>>>> all Vice-Chairs present. 4.4.3 The GNSO Secretariat will
>>>>>> administer, record, and tabulate absentee votes
>>>>>> according to these procedures and will provide reasonable
>>>>>> means for transmitting and authenticating absentee
>>>>>> ballots, which could include voting by telephone, e-
>>>>>> mail, web-based interface, or other technologies as may
>>>>>> become available. 4.4.4 Absentee balloting does not
>>>>>> affect quorum requirements. (There must be a quorum for
>>>>>> the meeting in which the vote is initiated.)
>>>>>>
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> California, USA (PST) UTC-8+1DST 00:15
>>>>>> New York/Washington DC, USA (EST) UTC-5+1DST 03:15 Rio
>>>>>> de Janiero, Brazil (BRST) UTC-3+1DST 04:15 Montevideo,
>>>>>> Uruguay (UYST) UTC-3+1DST 04:15 Edinburgh, Scotland (BST)
>>>>>> UTC+0DST 08:15 London, United Kingdom (BST) UTC+0DST
>>>>>> 08:15 Abuja, Nigeria (WAT) UTC+1+0DST 08:15 Bonn, Germany
>>>>>> (CEST) UTC+1+0DST 09:15 Stockholm, Sweden (CET)
>>>>>> UTC+1+0DST 09:15 Ramat Hasharon, Israel(IST) UTC+2+0DST
>>>>>> 10:15 Karachi, Pakistan (PKT ) UTC+5+0DST 12:15
>>>>>> Beijing/Hong Kong, China (HKT ) UTC+8+0DST 15:15 Perth,
>>>>>> Australia (WST) UTC+8+0DST 15:15 Wellington, New Zealand
>>>>>> (NZDT ) UTC+12+1DST 19:15
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> The DST starts/ends on last Sunday of October 2013, 2:00 or 3:00
>>>>>> local time (with exceptions)
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
> For other places see http://www.timeanddate.com
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cu3adns
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G?ry GNSO
>>>>>> Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight
>>>>> Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA p: +1-415-553-6261
> <tel:%2B1-415-553-6261>
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>>>>> robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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