[PC-NCSG] Fwd: For NCSG-Policy from Kathy

Wed Oct 31 22:24:42 EET 2012

$(UHi Kathy and welcome! 

I can share the remote participation time this week, on Friday at least for part of the time. I can't do Thursdays as I teach and this week have 3 meetings back to back in the afternoon. 

For the meeting on 11/15 I can do the afternoon (after 1 p.m. EST). 

As for TMCH updates - I attended the Toronto (and for that matter Prague) presentation sessions. I don't know that I know more than you already do - basically ICANN is sticking with Deloitte/IBM, who although they have made substantial progress with details of the implementation since Prague still don't seem to be quite there. The alternate model that Neustar and ARI are pushing is interesting, and does reduce costs for the registries, but I don't think is well-understood by everyone who was there. There's a huge gulf of knowledge between the TM lawyers who have been on the scene since the TMCH idea first came up, and the new ones who don't have anywhere that kind of background and context. There's also the problem that some TM lawyers don't understand the technical issues, or even how PKI works (which is part of the Neustar/ARI model). 

Fadi already had a meeting with some of these folks - registries, applicants, TM owners - on Thursday morning in Toronto; the Brussels meeting is I think a follow up on that which is supposed to hammer out specific details about how the TMCH should work. 

TM owners continue to be worried about access to the data they will be putting into the TMCH, and how to secure it. Some - not all - want to re-open the whole "identical match" issue for the TM Claims Service (which I'm rather pleased to note was something I drafted when I was on the IRT and stuck to despite challenges dating from those discussions - and it's stayed that way through the STI process and post-hoc ICANN tinkering.) 

Hope this helps, 
Mary

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From: 
Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> 

To: 
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CC: 
Kathryn Kleiman <kleiman at fhhlaw.com> 

Date: 
10/31/2012 3:25 PM 

Subject: 
[PC-NCSG] Fwd: For NCSG-Policy from Kathy 

Unless any PC members object, I'd like to add Kathy Kleiman to the PC list for the next two weeks to work with us on the TMC issues and prepare for those discussions.

Thanks, 

Robin 

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From: Kathryn Kleiman <kleiman at fhhlaw.com> 

Date: October 31, 2012 12:16:19 PM PDT 

To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> 

Subject: For NCSG-Policy from Kathy 

Dear Robin, 

Could you kindly pass the email below to the NCSG-Policy Committee? 

Tx you! 

Kathy 

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Hi All, 

In preparation for tomorrow?s meeting with in Brussels I have two questions and two requests: 

Questions 

1)      Can anyone who attended meetings in Toronto about the Trademark Clearinghouse please share any information that you heard of interest/concern to NCSG?  I would appreciate it!  

2)      Can anyone share the time of this meeting with me?  The meeting runs 9am-5pm Brussels time, Thurs + Friday, and right now I am the only participant from NCSG. I am attending by teleconference. I have some other work I must do, but hate to leave this meeting without an NCSG participant. Can anyone share the time with me? 

Requests 

1)      As you know, the policy section has been segmented out of this meeting and placed in a separate one to take place on 11/15 ? in a meeting to take place in LA or DC. I think we should have at least two reps. I have volunteered to be one of them. Who else could join us and help represent our strongly-held views? 

2)      I have asked Robin if I might be added to the NCSG-Policy list for the next few days so I can share updates and ask questions in realtime. 

Best, 

Kathy 

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