[PC-NCSG] Fwd: [] a modest amendment to our charter point on "privacy and data protection"

[Avri Doria]

I sent this on request from Mikey.

Hope you guys can support it.

avri

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] a modest amendment to our charter point on "privacy and data protection"
> Date: 15 October 2012 13:29:43 EDT
> To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike at haven2.com>
> Cc: "Gnso-thickwhois-dt at icann.org DT" <Gnso-thickwhois-dt at icann.org>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How about this as a next pass
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> On 15 Oct 2012, at 08:49, Mike O'Connor wrote:
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>> Impact on rights: how would ?thick? Whois affect rights such as Privacy, Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Association as well as adherence to data protection regulations,  taking into account the involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?
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> Impact on rights: how would ?thick? Whois specifically affect internationally agreed rights, e.g. rights of others, privacy, freedoms such as expression and association, as well as adherence to data protection regulations,  taking into account the involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?
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This is the latest compromise language i offered on Mikey's request, see below.  Hopefully it is language you all can support.

thanks

avri



Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike at haven2.com>
> Subject: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] a modest amendment to our charter point on "privacy and data protection"
> Date: 15 October 2012 08:49:47 EDT
> To: "Gnso-thickwhois-dt at icann.org DT" <Gnso-thickwhois-dt at icann.org>
> 
> hi all,
> 
> i have been quiet, but i'm far from disinterested and commend the conversation.
> 
> here are a couple ideas to keep the conversation moving.
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> - i think it would be helpful if *we* could arrive at a mutually-agreeable place in advance of the Council meeting on Wednesday
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> - i'd ask us to focus on the actual wording to see if there's a middle ground
> 
> i think the key for us is to craft a "container" within which the rights discussion can take place in the WG, rather than viewing this as a conversation about whether that discussion should take place at all.  i'm thinking that the conversation will happen during the WG, no matter what we as a drafting team (or the Council for that matter) do.
> 
> Avri, i'd like to throw the ball back to you.  the first-round amended language doesn't seem to be getting a lot of traction.  would you like to take a run at synthesizing the comments on this thread into a revised version of the language that would still meet your objectives?  
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mikey  
> 
> 
> Current language:
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> Impact on privacy and data protection: how would ?thick? Whois affect privacy and data protection, also taking into account the involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?
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> 1st- round proposed language:
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> Impact on rights: how would ?thick? Whois affect rights such as Privacy, Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Association as well as adherence to data protection regulations,  taking into account the involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?
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