[PC-NCSG] NPOC comment on the NCSG IFRC/IOC comments

[Robin Gross]

Dear Avri:

Please feel free to forward my email confirmation on to the IOC/RC  
group since I don't have posting privileges on that list.

Thank you,
Robin Gross

On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Thanks for sending this Avri.
>
> Unfortunately there still seems to be some misunderstanding as to  
> how decisions of the NCSG Policy Committee are made, although I  
> know I have explained this very same point before.  I will try again.
>
> The NCSG Charter sets forth the process of decisions taken by the  
> NCSG Policy Committee.  It is by members of the NCSG Policy  
> Committee (which include representatives of all constituencies).   
> It is *not* the case that constituencies within NCSG must agree on  
> a position for it to be the view of the NCSG Policy Committee.  Nor  
> is it the case that 100% of the NCSG Policy Committee members must  
> agree on a position - although I will note in this case no member  
> of the NCSG Policy Committee expressed disagreement with the  
> proposed position of the NCSG PC - so that isn't even an issue.
>
> The fact remains that this NCSG position was proposed to the NCSG  
> Policy Committee, which include members of NPOC, and discussions of  
> the proposal took place with 100% agreement to support this position.
>
> For anyone to come back now and say NCSG policy committee did not  
> support this position because 1 member of the PC who did not speak  
> up at the time doesn't like it, is simply wrong, and needs to  
> review the NCSG Charter to review how decisions of the PC are  
> taken.  I hope I do not have to continue to repeat this explanation  
> every time the NCSG PC takes a decision.  We follow the NCSG  
> Charter.  That is all.
>
> Best,
> Robin
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>
>> Should have included this reference:
>>
>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/ioc-rcrc-recommendations/msg00000.html
>>
>>
>> On 2 Oct 2012, at 12:52, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For several weeks, at various times, the NCSG position on the  
>>> IFRC/IOC resolution was discussed in the NCSG Policy Committee list.
>>>
>>> NPOC has three members on this committee, 2 appointed  
>>> representatives and the chair of the NPOC, which I beleive is  
>>> Alain himself.
>>>
>>> This committee gave its approval to the NCSG comments per the  
>>> NCSG Charter.
>>>
>>> NPOC could have objected at any point in that process.  They did  
>>> not.
>>>
>>> The Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee declared the decision of  
>>> the Policy Committee, which according to charter does not need to  
>>> be unanimous, though in this case it apparently was.
>>>
>>> I do not know what the NPOC did internally in its discussions, or  
>>> whether the representatives of the NPOC on the NCSG Policy  
>>> Committee where tracking this with their members internal  
>>> structures, but to now say that you were excluded from the  
>>> decision is just not an accurate reflection of the case within  
>>> the NCSG or the NCSG Policy Committee.
>>>
>>> The NCSG postion listed in the document is the NCSG position as  
>>> developed in its Policy Committee according to its charter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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