[PC-NCSG] Today in Brussels (remotely)

[Maria Farrell]

Thanks for the report, Kathy, and also for securing what sounds like an
important concession for registrants.

Maria

On 2 November 2012 03:09, Mary Wong <Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> wrote:

>  Thanks for the report, Kathy - some interesting stuff there!
>
>  If the next meeting is Nov 16 and not 15, and in LA, there's a
> possibility I can go.
>
>  Cheers
>
> Mary
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> >>>
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> *From: *
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> Kathryn Kleiman <kleiman at fhhlaw.com>
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> *To:*
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> Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
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> *CC:*
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> NCSG-Policy <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>, Milton Mueller <Mueller at syr.edu>
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> *Date: *
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> 11/1/2012 4:57 PM
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> *Subject: *
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> [PC-NCSG] Today in Brussels (remotely)
>
> Hi All,****
>
> Quick update today from our Brussels meeting. First, we were very warmly
> welcomed, and Fadi was very fair and balanced and did listen to hear all
> sides.  I am very appreciative and he helped us make our points clear, and
> others too.****
>
> **  **
>
> That said, as Robin predicted there are many IPC people ? five at my count
> (although some people came on and off the call), and three BC, with two
> sharing the time and one on the whole call.   Jeff Eckhaus, Jeff Neumann
> and Joe Waldron from Demand Media, Neustar and Verisign respectively. Lots
> of ICANN staff including Kurt and John J. ****
>
> **  **
>
> So the policy issues were separated out. The 8 points of IPC/BC will be
> discussed at a meeting now set for 11/16 (one day later than originally
> announced).  Currently set for LA, although that might change.  The
> question will be whether the proposals are policy ? in which case they will
> be listened to, but routed through the policy process. Or implementation,
> to be included in current TMCH design.   I have asked Robin whether we
> might write a second letter setting our views on this issue   ? point by
> point.****
>
> **  **
>
> But the Brussels meeting is implementation. There are still detailed
> questions that need to be worked out for the Trademark Clearinghouse
> (TMCH). What types of passwords should be issued (by TM holder or by TM
> entry)?  The ICANN Model or the Neustar/ARI/Registries ?alternative model??
> (Now leaning towards the latter unless you have any objection.)****
>
> **  **
>
> We were talking about fields and I fought hard, with IPC support, to
> ensure that the exact language of the goods/services of the trademark are
> entered, in addition to the international Class of Goods and Services
> (which is very broad).  J.Scott picked up in Toronto that this data was not
> being captured; ICANN staff thought it might be a ?free form? entry form. I
> said it had to be the exact wording of the trademark registration ? and
> everyone ultimately agreed.****
>
> **  **
>
> What this experience shows me is that we are really the ones looking out
> for the registrants. We are the only ones really keeping an eye on the TM
> Claims process, and trying to ensure registrants get accurate and complete
> TM information to make their decision whether to register or not. ****
>
> **  **
>
> It?s not that anyone else is wrong, but their priorities are elsewhere.
> Registries and registrars are implementing their own systems; ICANN Staff
> is working with Deloitte and IBM, and IPC/BC is worried about entering
> potentially hundreds of thousands of TM registrations and then having a
> Sunrise period that works as promised in the policy. ****
>
> **  **
>
> So we have a critical role, and I am glad we fought for a place in this
> meeting. And for hopefully equal spots in the 11/16 meeting.****
>
> **  **
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> Robin, please feel free to add. Good night ****
>
> All the best,****
>
> Kathy ****
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