From avri  Sat May  5 20:04:33 2012
From: avri (Avri Doria)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 13:04:33 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [] Update: Final Report of the Internationalized
	Registration Data Working Group
References: <CBC05EB4.18760%steve.sheng@icann.org>
Message-ID: <36477270-0E4C-4E08-A961-D01EF1B6ACC5@acm.org>

Hi,

I am just getting around to reviewing tha changes made by the SSAC to the IRD's final report.

I don't know if the GNSO has reviewed or commented yet.  So hard to keep track of what the GNSO is up to these days.

In any case, if anyone has comments, i will pass them along to the WG.

avri



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Steve Sheng <steve.sheng at icann.org>
> Subject: [ssac-gnso-irdwg] Update: Final Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group
> Date: 27 April 2012 17:57:19 EDT
> To: "ssac-gnso-irdwg at icann.org" <ssac-gnso-irdwg at icann.org>
> 
> Dear members of IRD-WG, 
> 
>   Greetings. When the IRD-WG Final report was approved by the group in March. It was sent to GNSO and to SSAC for review  and approval. As a result, the SSAC provided a few comments, for your review and approval. 
> 
>   Most of these comments are to correct technical and other errors in the document. The only substantive change is that the SSAC proposed an additional recommendation: 
> 
> Recommendation 4: ICANN should take appropriate steps to require gTLD registries and registrars andpersuade ccTLD registries and registrars to support the following standards:
> Domain Names - both A-label and U-label; nameserver Names- A-label, and optionally U-label;
> Telephone/fax- ITU-T E.123; Email- IETF EAI WG RFCs; Registration Status- Exact EPP status where applicable; Dates - ISO 8601-2004. 
> 
> The rationale for this recommendation is that SSAC members asked: is there a reason why standards agreed to in Section 4.2 are not part of the final recommendations for action now?  For example, Nameserver, Phone/fax, Dates, Registration Status are fields where it appears the WG had consensus. By proposing recommendation 4, it made possible for possible actions where the IRD-WG had consensus, without having to wait for the translation and transliteration issue to resolve. 
> 
> Attached please find the report (REDLINE, clean version). 
> 
> We appreciate the IRD-WG members could review these changes and discuss whether to approve them by May 9, 2012. If the IRD-WG feel there is a need for a teleconference call, staff is happy to organize it. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> Steve

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From Mary.Wong  Wed May  9 19:29:35 2012
From: Mary.Wong (Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:29:35 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] 9 May (Wed) 15:00 UTC NCSG Open Policy
 Call -Draft Agenda & Telephone Bridge Contact Details
Message-ID: <4FAA63310200005B0008CA18@smtp.law.unh.edu>

Sorry I had to miss this, had a meeting at the US Copyright Office that got rescheduled for just this time. 

Sent from a mobile device; please excuse brevity and any grammatical or typographical errors.

"Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>" <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG> wrote:


In 25 minutes?.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: 9 May (Wed) 15:00 UTC NCSG Open Policy Call - Draft Agenda & Telephone Bridge Contact Details
> Date: May 7, 2012 12:19:12 PM PDT
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I hope you all will join in this Wednesday's NCSG Open Policy Call.  We've got several important items on the discussion agenda (see below) and I invite your participation via the telephone bridge (contact details below).  
> 
> All NCSG members are invited to ask questions of and provide feedback to the NCSG GNSO Councilors and other NCSG Policy Committee Members during this call.
> 
> Thank you,
> Robin 
> 
> NCSG Open Policy Call
> 9 May 2012 (this Wednesday)
> 15:00 - 17:00 UTC
> Other times: 08:00 San Francisco; 11:00 Washington; 16:00 London; 17:00 Paris; 00:00 Tokyo
> 
> NCSG Draft Discussion Agenda
> 
> 1.  Should GNSO Council disband IOC/RC drafting team or send new instructions to team?
> 
> 2.  What's this?  URS "summits" to rework GNSO negotiated URS in proposed ICANN budget?
> 
> 3.  GNSO to vote on creation of drafting team for best practices to address abusive registrations
> 
> 4.  Update on Joint Applicant Support (JAS) Working Group
> 
> 5.  Path forward for whois access recommendation - synthesis of whois service requirements
> 
> 6.  New gtld application issues (delay, etc.)?
> 
> 7.  Update on SSAC work / Internationalized Registration Data WG
> 
> 8.  Open Public Comments
> Draft FY13 Budget
> 24 May / 15 June (Reply)
> http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/op-budget-fy13-01may12-en.htm
> 
> 9.  AoB?
> 
> ++++++++
> 
> Telephone Bridge / Contact details at end of this email.
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
> NCSG ADOBE CONNECT Room:
> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/_a819976787/ncsg/
>  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> See related from:
>   https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+10+May+2012
> 
> GNSO Council Meeting 10 May 2012
> Meeting Times 15:00 UTC
> 
> Coordinated Universal Time 15:00 UTC
> 08:00 Los Angeles; 11:00 Washington; 16:00 London; 17:00 Paris; 00:00 Tokyo
> 
> Dial-in numbers will be sent individually to Council members. Councilors should notify the GNSO Secretariat in advance if a dial out call is needed.
> 
> GNSO Council meeting audio cast: http://stream.icann.org:8000/gnso.m3u
> 
> Item 1: Administrative matters (10 minutes)
> 
> 1.1 Roll Call
> 
> 1.2 Statement of interest updates
> 
> 1.3 Review/amend agenda
> 
> 1.4. Note the status of minutes for the previous Council meeting per the GNSO Operating Procedures:
> 
> Draft Minutes of the GNSO Council meeting 12 April 2012
> To be approved on 30 April 2012.http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg12945.html
> 
> 1.5. GNSO Pending Projects List
> http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/pending-projects-list.pdf
> 
> Review main changes.
> Comments and/or questions.
> Item 2: Consent agenda (5 minutes)
> 
> A consent agenda item is being added as a standard agenda item to provide for a simplified process to obtain Council approval on specific tasks.
> 
> Item 3: Best practices for addressing abusive registrations (10 minutes)
> 
> Following the recommendation of the Registration Abuse Policies (RAP) Working Group, the GNSO Council requested a discussion paper on the creation of non-binding best practices to help registrars and registries address the abusive registrations of domain names. 
> 
> The discussion paper recommended the creation of two Working Groups, one to establish the framework for best practices and one to propose candidate best practices to address the abusive registration of domain names. 
> 
> The Council must now consider a motion to set up a drafting team to create the charter for these groups. 
> 
> Refer to motion 1[https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+10+May+2012 
> ]
> 
> 3.2   Reading of the motion (Zahid Jamil)
> 
> 3.3   Discussion
> 3.3   Vote
> 
> Item 4: Update on the new PDP (10 minutes)
>  
> 
> In December 2011, the ICANN Board adopted, on the recommendation of the GNSO Council, the revised GNSO Policy Development Process. This session is to introduce the revised GNSO PDP and explain its new features in detail.
> 
> Introduction to Revised Policy Development Process (PDP)
> 
> http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/intro-revised-gnso-pdp-14mar12-en.pdf
> 
> 4.1 Update (Marika Konings)
> 
> 4.2 Discussion
> 
>  
> 
> Item 5: International Olympics Committee /Red Cross Names Drafting Team (IOC/RC DT) (10 minutes)
> 
> At its March 26 meeting, the GNSO Council approved the IOC/RC DT's recommendations (see resolution passed by the Council here http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions#20120326-1).
> 
> On April 10, 2012, the Board established the New gTLD Program Committee and granted it all of the powers of the Board to exercise Board-level authority for any and all issues that may arise relating to the New gTLD Program. The Committee met on 10 April 2012 and resolved not to update the New gTLD Applicant Guidebook at this time (seehttp://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/prelim-report-new-gtld-10apr12-en.htm).
> 
> In the light of this Board decision, this discussion item aims to determine whether the Council should disband the IOC/RC DT or whether fresh instructions should be given to the DT. 
> 
> 5.1 DT Update from Staff (X Y).
> 
> 5.2 Discussion
> 
> 5.3 Next Steps 
> 
> Item 6: Update on the Joint Supporting Organisations/Advisory Committee on New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group( JAS WG) (10 minutes)
>  
> 
> This item aims to provide the Council with a status update on the JAS WG so that next steps for the group can be determined. 
> 
> 6.1 WG update from Staff (Kurt Pritz)
> 
> 6.2 Discussion
> 
> 6.3 Next steps 
> 
> Item 7: Synthesis of WHOIS Service Requirements - The WHOIS Access recommendation (10 minutes) 
> 
> The WHOIS access recommendation was considered as part of the consent agenda at the Council's 16 February 2012 meeting. 
> 
> At that meeting, the ISP constituency requested that the proposal to end this work be removed from the consent agenda and considered as part of the GNSO's main agenda. A further suggestion was suggested that constituency/stakeholder members work with Staff to identify a path forward and that the topic be further discussed at the Costa Rica meetings. 
> 
> This agenda item is to determine what next steps, if any, should be planned for this project item. 
> 
> 7.1 Update from Staff (X Y)
> 
> 7.2 Discussion
> 
> 7.3 Next steps
> 
>  
> 
> Item 8: Update on the Internationalised Registration Data WG (10 minutes)
> 
> The IRD submitted its final report to the GNSO Council and SSAC on March 3, 2012 for review and approval. 
> 
> However, SSAC has recommend some substantial changes and more work may now be needed by the IRD before its final report can be considered. 
> 
> This agenda item is to provide an update on these latest developments in the IRD WG's work to the Council. 
> 
> 8.1 WG update from Staff (Steve Cheng)
> 
> 8.2 Discussion 
> 
> 
> Item 9:  Any Other Business (5 minutes)
> 
> 9.1 Discussion on recent Board announcement to alter ICANN meeting Friday schedule.
> 
> 9.2 Discussion on ALAC proposal for ICANN Academy.
> 
> 9.3 URS update in draft budget ? should the Council write to the Board to request that it be involved?
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> NCSG Open Policy Call TELEPHONE BRIDGE - CONTACT DETAILS (9 May 15:00 UTC)
> ____________________________________________________________________________
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> 
> For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call.                                          
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From robin  Thu May 10 00:15:15 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:15:15 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] ALAC meeting with the NCSG
In-Reply-To: <CBCAFA18.13F35%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
References: <CBCAFA18.13F35%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
Message-ID: <75C2FA9F-6590-4D09-99BD-1EDDA76ABE24@IPJUSTICE.ORG>

Hello Matt,

Thank you for your email and initiative to get this meeting scheduled between ALAC and the NCSG.

I do not yet know at what time on Wed 27 June the GNSO Council is meeting and we do not want to schedule our discussion to conflict with the GNSO Council meeting on Wed.  Do you know at what time the GNSO Council meets on Wed?  As soon as we know, we can schedule our joint discussion around that meeting.

Thanks again.

Best,
Robin

On May 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:

> Dear Robin,
>  
> The ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) and At-Large Staff are developing the schedule and agendas for the At-Large meetings in Prague.
>  
> Following up on the scheduled ALAC meeting with the NCSG in Costa Rica, we have tentatively scheduled a meeting of the ALAC with the NCSG for Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00. Could you please confirm that the NCSG would like to have a meeting with the ALAC during the Prague Meeting? If so, is the current date and time convenient?  Please note that as the ICANN Meeting schedule is still being developed, we currently don?t know which other meetings are scheduled for that time.
>  
> Additionally, the ExCom has requested that you let them know of any specific agenda items that you would like to discuss with the ALAC.
>  
> Matt Ashtiani
> At-Large Coordination Officer
> ICANN
> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
> Marina del Rey, CA 90292

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From robin  Thu May 10 20:03:01 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:03:01 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] ALAC meeting with the NCSG
In-Reply-To: <CBD0943E.14A75%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
References: <CBD0943E.14A75%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
Message-ID: <E28AB400-CF46-4ADE-BE48-A28E6E0CC849@IPJUSTICE.ORG>

Thanks for the additional info, Matt.

Can we schedule the ALAC - NCSG discussion for 12:30 - 13:30 on Wed. (i.e. half an hour earlier)?  

That way our GNSO Counselors can have a short break between the two meetings.

Thank you,
Robin


On May 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:

> Dear Robin,
> 
> Based on the message below, would a meeting of the ALAC and NCSG on Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00 work? 
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Matt Ashtiani
> At-Large Coordination Officer
> ICANN
> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
> 
> 
> From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber at icann.org>
> To: Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
> Cc: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani at icann.org>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, "alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <pc-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: ALAC meeting with the NCSG
> 
> Dear Matt and Robin,
> 
> The GNSO council meeting is scheduled from 14-18h or 18h30. 
> 
> Thank you. 
> Kind regards,
> Gisella 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 9 May 2012, at 22:19, "Robin Gross" <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Matt,
>> 
>> Thank you for your email and initiative to get this meeting scheduled between ALAC and the NCSG.
>> 
>> I do not yet know at what time on Wed 27 June the GNSO Council is meeting and we do not want to schedule our discussion to conflict with the GNSO Council meeting on Wed.  Do you know at what time the GNSO Council meets on Wed?  As soon as we know, we can schedule our joint discussion around that meeting.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Robin
>> 
>> On May 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Robin,
>>>  
>>> The ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) and At-Large Staff are developing the schedule and agendas for the At-Large meetings in Prague.
>>>  
>>> Following up on the scheduled ALAC meeting with the NCSG in Costa Rica, we have tentatively scheduleda meeting of the ALAC with the NCSG for Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00. Could you please confirm that the NCSG would like to have a meeting with the ALAC during the Prague Meeting? If so, is the current date and time convenient?  Please note that as the ICANN Meeting schedule is still being developed, we currently don?t know which other meetings are scheduled for that time.
>>>  
>>> Additionally, the ExCom has requested that you let them know of any specific agenda items that you would like to discuss with the ALAC.
>>>  
>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>> ICANN
>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>> 

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From william.drake  Thu May 10 20:09:44 2012
From: william.drake (William Drake)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:09:44 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] ALAC meeting with the NCSG
In-Reply-To: <E28AB400-CF46-4ADE-BE48-A28E6E0CC849@IPJUSTICE.ORG>
References: <CBD0943E.14A75%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
	<E28AB400-CF46-4ADE-BE48-A28E6E0CC849@IPJUSTICE.ORG>
Message-ID: <40B4F6EF-9CA5-4432-A5C8-5A8C59FA5D36@uzh.ch>

Adding an hour meeting before a four hour Council meeting doesn't strike me as particularly enticing.  Councilors might want to do things like plan, eat lunch, etc.  We've made Mondays work before, why not now?

BD

On May 10, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Thanks for the additional info, Matt.
> 
> Can we schedule the ALAC - NCSG discussion for 12:30 - 13:30 on Wed. (i.e. half an hour earlier)?  
> 
> That way our GNSO Counselors can have a short break between the two meetings.
> 
> Thank you,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
> 
>> Dear Robin,
>> 
>> Based on the message below, would a meeting of the ALAC and NCSG on Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00 work? 
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Matt Ashtiani
>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>> ICANN
>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>> 
>> 
>> From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber at icann.org>
>> To: Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
>> Cc: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani at icann.org>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, "alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <pc-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: ALAC meeting with the NCSG
>> 
>> Dear Matt and Robin,
>> 
>> The GNSO council meeting is scheduled from 14-18h or 18h30. 
>> 
>> Thank you. 
>> Kind regards,
>> Gisella 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 9 May 2012, at 22:19, "Robin Gross" <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Matt,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email and initiative to get this meeting scheduled between ALAC and the NCSG.
>>> 
>>> I do not yet know at what time on Wed 27 June the GNSO Council is meeting and we do not want to schedule our discussion to conflict with the GNSO Council meeting on Wed.  Do you know at what time the GNSO Council meets on Wed?  As soon as we know, we can schedule our joint discussion around that meeting.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>  
>>>> The ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) and At-Large Staff are developing the schedule and agendas for the At-Large meetings in Prague.
>>>>  
>>>> Following up on the scheduled ALAC meeting with the NCSG in Costa Rica, we have tentatively scheduleda meeting of the ALAC with the NCSG for Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00. Could you please confirm that the NCSG would like to have a meeting with the ALAC during the Prague Meeting? If so, is the current date and time convenient?  Please note that as the ICANN Meeting schedule is still being developed, we currently don?t know which other meetings are scheduled for that time.
>>>>  
>>>> Additionally, the ExCom has requested that you let them know of any specific agenda items that you would like to discuss with the ALAC.
>>>>  
>>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>>> ICANN
>>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg

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From robin  Thu May 10 20:15:06 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:15:06 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] ALAC meeting with the NCSG
In-Reply-To: <40B4F6EF-9CA5-4432-A5C8-5A8C59FA5D36@uzh.ch>
References: <CBD0943E.14A75%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
	<E28AB400-CF46-4ADE-BE48-A28E6E0CC849@IPJUSTICE.ORG>
	<40B4F6EF-9CA5-4432-A5C8-5A8C59FA5D36@uzh.ch>
Message-ID: <ABF22B35-E7C8-4253-B0CC-50BD2E8735B1@IPJUSTICE.ORG>

Dear Matt,

Is a time on Monday afternoon a possibility for ALAC?  

(We have NCSG Policy Cmte Mtg on Monday morning).

Thanks for your help scheduling this discussion.

Best,
Robin


On May 10, 2012, at 10:09 AM, William Drake wrote:

> Adding an hour meeting before a four hour Council meeting doesn't strike me as particularly enticing.  Councilors might want to do things like plan, eat lunch, etc.  We've made Mondays work before, why not now?
> 
> BD
> 
> On May 10, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the additional info, Matt.
>> 
>> Can we schedule the ALAC - NCSG discussion for 12:30 - 13:30 on Wed. (i.e. half an hour earlier)?  
>> 
>> That way our GNSO Counselors can have a short break between the two meetings.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Robin,
>>> 
>>> Based on the message below, would a meeting of the ALAC and NCSG on Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00 work? 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>>  
>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>> ICANN
>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber at icann.org>
>>> To: Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
>>> Cc: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani at icann.org>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, "alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <pc-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: ALAC meeting with the NCSG
>>> 
>>> Dear Matt and Robin,
>>> 
>>> The GNSO council meeting is scheduled from 14-18h or 18h30. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you. 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Gisella 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 9 May 2012, at 22:19, "Robin Gross" <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Matt,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your email and initiative to get this meeting scheduled between ALAC and the NCSG.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not yet know at what time on Wed 27 June the GNSO Council is meeting and we do not want to schedule our discussion to conflict with the GNSO Council meeting on Wed.  Do you know at what time the GNSO Council meets on Wed?  As soon as we know, we can schedule our joint discussion around that meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robin
>>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>>  
>>>>> The ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) and At-Large Staff are developing the schedule and agendas for the At-Large meetings in Prague.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Following up on the scheduled ALAC meeting with the NCSG in Costa Rica, we have tentatively scheduleda meeting of the ALAC with the NCSG for Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00. Could you please confirm that the NCSG would like to have a meeting with the ALAC during the Prague Meeting? If so, is the current date and time convenient?  Please note that as the ICANN Meeting schedule is still being developed, we currently don?t know which other meetings are scheduled for that time.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Additionally, the ExCom has requested that you let them know of any specific agenda items that you would like to discuss with the ALAC.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> 

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From william.drake  Fri May 11 08:45:53 2012
From: william.drake (William Drake)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 07:45:53 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] ALAC meeting with the NCSG
In-Reply-To: <4FAC41A4.5010206@gih.com>
References: <CBD0943E.14A75%matt.ashtiani@icann.org>
	<E28AB400-CF46-4ADE-BE48-A28E6E0CC849@IPJUSTICE.ORG>
	<40B4F6EF-9CA5-4432-A5C8-5A8C59FA5D36@uzh.ch>
	<4FAC41A4.5010206@gih.com>
Message-ID: <A90DCD42-44D1-4A1B-B3D8-4F7F34D0A209@uzh.ch>

Hi

Sure Monday afternoon's busy, and there will be the Internet governance session.  But last time we made 11:00-12:00 work, which for NCUC fit nicely between our policy meeting and the Council lunch.  If that slot can work for ALAC, why not try to stick with it as a default rather than going through the extended back and forth flailing around in the dark each time?

Or we could meet on Friday ;-)

BD

On May 11, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:

> Dear Bill,
> 
> you might have to be careful about Monday afternoons since the strong rumours that the SO/AC Cross community sessions might be back in Prague. As we are strong supporters of these sessions, it would be a shame to miss them.
> Would anyone know of a confirmation timetable on those SO/AC Sessions?
> Kind regards,
> 
> Olivier
> 
> On 10/05/2012 19:09, William Drake wrote :
>> 
>> Adding an hour meeting before a four hour Council meeting doesn't strike me as particularly enticing.  Councilors might want to do things like plan, eat lunch, etc.  We've made Mondays work before, why not now?
>> 
>> BD
>> 
>> On May 10, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the additional info, Matt.
>>> 
>>> Can we schedule the ALAC - NCSG discussion for 12:30 - 13:30 on Wed. (i.e. half an hour earlier)?  
>>> 
>>> That way our GNSO Counselors can have a short break between the two meetings.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>> 
>>>> Based on the message below, would a meeting of the ALAC and NCSG on Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00 work? 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>>> ICANN
>>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber at icann.org>
>>>> To: Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
>>>> Cc: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani at icann.org>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, "alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <pc-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at IPJUSTICE.ORG>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: ALAC meeting with the NCSG
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Matt and Robin,
>>>> 
>>>> The GNSO council meeting is scheduled from 14-18h or 18h30. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you. 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Gisella 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 9 May 2012, at 22:19, "Robin Gross" <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Matt,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your email and initiative to get this meeting scheduled between ALAC and the NCSG.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not yet know at what time on Wed 27 June the GNSO Council is meeting and we do not want to schedule our discussion to conflict with the GNSO Council meeting on Wed.  Do you know at what time the GNSO Council meets on Wed?  As soon as we know, we can schedule our joint discussion around that meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Matt Ashtiani wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) and At-Large Staff are developing the schedule and agendas for the At-Large meetings in Prague.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Following up on the scheduled ALAC meeting with the NCSG in Costa Rica, we have tentatively scheduleda meeting of the ALAC with the NCSG for Wednesday, 27 June between 13:00 ? 14:00. Could you please confirm that the NCSG would like to have a meeting with the ALAC during the Prague Meeting? If so, is the current date and time convenient?  Please note that as the ICANN Meeting schedule is still being developed, we currently don?t know which other meetings are scheduled for that time.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Additionally, the ExCom has requested that you let them know of any specific agenda items that you would like to discuss with the ALAC.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Matt Ashtiani
>>>>>> At-Large Coordination Officer
>>>>>> ICANN
>>>>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>>>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD
> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html

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From robin  Wed May 16 20:33:36 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:33:36 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Doodle poll for June NCSG Open Policy Mtg
Message-ID: <05C08DB4-EAE1-4C7A-A12F-ADF416637418@ipjustice.org>

Dear NCSG Policy Committee Members:

It's time to schedule the next NCSG Open Policy Meeting, so please mark your availability on this doodle for a call on 4-6 June:
  http://www.doodle.com/e6wvxcpygq6d9cct

__________________________________________

NCSG Open Policy Meeting for June 2012

Preparation for 7 June GNSO Council Meeting.

This poll closes 25 May 2012 (EoB in California).

This meeting is an open discussion between the entire NCSG membership and the NCSG Policy Committee (which includes the NCSG GNSO Councilors and constituency representatives). 

Please mark your availability on the dates 4, 5, 6 JUNE 2012 for a 2-hour conference call. Thank you.

Best,
Robin


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From robin  Fri May 18 01:00:19 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:00:19 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Agenda for Meeting of Board & Noncommercial
	Stakeholders Group
References: <9EC7032F-3F4F-4180-867D-35149990AFA7@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <3BF76E3A-C08C-4178-8AF5-A9B31F0381A8@ipjustice.org>

Dear NCSG-PC:

Time to propose discussion topics for the board-NCSG meeting in Prague.  Need 3 topics by 1June.

Best,
Robin


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Re: Agenda for Meeting of Board & Noncommercial Stakeholders Group
> Date: May 17, 2012 2:58:31 PM PDT
> To: Diane Schroeder <diane.schroeder at icann.org>
> Cc: "dave at difference.com.au" <dave at difference.com.au>, "alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, David Olive <david.olive at icann.org>
> 
> Thank you, Diane.  This sounds great.  We'd be glad to provide 3 proposed topics for discussion by 1 June to the Board.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Robin
> 
> On May 17, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Diane Schroeder wrote:
> 
>> Dear Robin, Dave & Alain ? the board has asked that I try to have the agendas set earlier for the meetings with the various community groups.  This is true on both sides ? what the Noncommercial Stakeholders group wants to discuss, as well as the topics from the Board.  Is it possible to get the items from the NCSG by 1 June?  I will then get the Board items back the following week?   Please let me know if this timing would work?  If you recall, we asked for three items the  NCGS was interested in discussing during the session with the Board.  Thank you.
>> 
>> Diane Schroeder
>> Director of Board Support
>> ICANN
>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Ste. 330
>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>> 
>> diane.schroeder at icann.org
>> Phone - +1-310-823-9358
>> Direct ? +1-310-301-5827
>> Fax - +1-310-823-8649
>> Mobile - +1-562-644-2524
>> 
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From avri  Fri May 18 01:10:03 2012
From: avri (Avri Doria)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 00:10:03 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG]
	=?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Agenda_for_Meeting_of_Board_=26_Noncom?=
	=?utf-8?q?mercial=09Stakeholders_Group?=
In-Reply-To: <3BF76E3A-C08C-4178-8AF5-A9B31F0381A8@ipjustice.org>
References: <9EC7032F-3F4F-4180-867D-35149990AFA7@ipjustice.org>
	<3BF76E3A-C08C-4178-8AF5-A9B31F0381A8@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <509eb172-538b-4891-b8f9-c2e3405025c8@email.android.com>

hi,

One recommendation:
That whenver someone at ICANN talks to LEA from a country they MUST also talk to data privacy/retention authority from that country. Preferabley at the same time, but certainly as part of the same event.

avri


Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

>Dear NCSG-PC:
>
>Time to propose discussion topics for the board-NCSG meeting in Prague.
> Need 3 topics by 1June.
>
>Best,
>Robin
>
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
>> Subject: Re: Agenda for Meeting of Board & Noncommercial Stakeholders
>Group
>> Date: May 17, 2012 2:58:31 PM PDT
>> To: Diane Schroeder <diane.schroeder at icann.org>
>> Cc: "dave at difference.com.au" <dave at difference.com.au>,
>"alain.berranger at gmail.com" <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, David Olive
><david.olive at icann.org>
>> 
>> Thank you, Diane.  This sounds great.  We'd be glad to provide 3
>proposed topics for discussion by 1 June to the Board.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Robin
>> 
>> On May 17, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Diane Schroeder wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Robin, Dave & Alain ? the board has asked that I try to have
>the agendas set earlier for the meetings with the various community
>groups.  This is true on both sides ? what the Noncommercial
>Stakeholders group wants to discuss, as well as the topics from the
>Board.  Is it possible to get the items from the NCSG by 1 June?  I
>will then get the Board items back the following week?   Please let me
>know if this timing would work?  If you recall, we asked for three
>items the  NCGS was interested in discussing during the session with
>the Board.  Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Diane Schroeder
>>> Director of Board Support
>>> ICANN
>>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Ste. 330
>>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>> 
>>> diane.schroeder at icann.org
>>> Phone - +1-310-823-9358
>>> Direct ? +1-310-301-5827
>>> Fax - +1-310-823-8649
>>> Mobile - +1-562-644-2524
>>> 
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>PC-NCSG mailing list
>PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg




From Mary.Wong  Thu May 24 19:38:55 2012
From: Mary.Wong (Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:38:55 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] Document and motion Deadline 30 May for
 GNSO Council meeting 7 June at 20:00 UTC
Message-ID: <4FBE2BDF0200005B0008E26C@smtp.law.unh.edu>

Hello, just the usual reminder - do we have any motions or documents we
want to propose? If so, deadline is this coming Weds (30 May).
 
Cheers
Mary

 
Mary W S Wong
Professor of Law
Chair, Graduate IP Programs
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH
03301USAEmail: mary.wong at law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage:
http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on
the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:
http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> 


From: Glen de Saint G?ry<Glen at icann.org>
To:"council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
Date: 5/23/2012 5:11 AM
Subject: [council] Document and motion Deadline 30 May for GNSO Council
meeting 7 June at 20:00 UTC

 
Dear Councillors,
 
 
Reports, motions  and documents for consideration are due no later than
(NLT) 8 days in advance (i.e. WEDNESDAY, 30  MAY 2012) of the GNSO
Council meeting on 7 June  2012 at 20:00 UTC.
Motions should be sent to the Council mailing list and will then be
posted on the Wiki at:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+07+June+2012
 
Thank you very much.
Kind regards,
 
Glen
 
 
Glen de Saint G?ry
GNSO Secretariat
gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
http://gnso.icann.org
 
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From robin  Fri May 25 00:03:13 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:03:13 -0700
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Doodle poll for June NCSG Open Policy Mtg
In-Reply-To: <05C08DB4-EAE1-4C7A-A12F-ADF416637418@ipjustice.org>
References: <05C08DB4-EAE1-4C7A-A12F-ADF416637418@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <7E68A432-EA3F-4661-808E-422A397E2D57@ipjustice.org>

Reminder to NCSG Policy Committee Members: 

 Doodle poll closes tomorrow for June NCSG Open Policy Call.  

Please mark your availability asap: http://www.doodle.com/e6wvxcpygq6d9cct 

Thank you very much!

On May 16, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Dear NCSG Policy Committee Members:
> 
> It's time to schedule the next NCSG Open Policy Meeting, so please mark your availability on this doodle for a call on 4-6 June:
>   http://www.doodle.com/e6wvxcpygq6d9cct
> 
> __________________________________________
> 
> NCSG Open Policy Meeting for June 2012
> 
> Preparation for 7 June GNSO Council Meeting.
> 
> This poll closes 25 May 2012 (EoB in California).
> 
> This meeting is an open discussion between the entire NCSG membership and the NCSG Policy Committee (which includes the NCSG GNSO Councilors and constituency representatives). 
> 
> Please mark your availability on the dates 4, 5, 6 JUNE 2012 for a 2-hour conference call. Thank you.
> 
> Best,
> Robin
> 
> 

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