[PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark

Mon Feb 20 21:01:43 EET 2012

Thank you very much Alain for forwarding this email to this list . According to the NCSG charter (and Robin's previous email) this will require rough consensus to be NCSG policy. can I therefore hear from the other members in this list about this issue?

Thanks

KK

From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com<mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:55:56 +0000
To: Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
Cc: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org<mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>, "pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org<mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org<mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>, "Klaus.Stoll" <klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org<mailto:klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org>>, Joy Liddicoat <joy at apc.org<mailto:joy at apc.org>>, "amber at npoc.org<mailto:amber at npoc.org>" <amber at npoc.org<mailto:amber at npoc.org>>, "Debbie at npoc.org<mailto:Debbie at npoc.org>" <debbie at npoc.org<mailto:debbie at npoc.org>>, Lori Schulman <lori.schulman at ascd.org<mailto:lori.schulman at ascd.org>>, "Branzelle, Judy" <Judy.Branzelle at goodwill.org<mailto:Judy.Branzelle at goodwill.org>>
Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark

Hi Konstantinos,

Here is what Klaus has to say:

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Subject: Fw: Fwd: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark

Dear Friends

Greetings. In response to Konstantinos. My statement regarding the special protection sought by the IOC and the Red Cross was a private statement and not the official position of NPOC. I am sorry about that. After much deliberation I have come to the conclusion that the special protection sought by the IOC and the RED Cross is very dangerous as it creates the precedence on which many many other applications can and will request similar protection.

Yours, Klaus"

Konstantinos, as to official NPOC policy statements of any kind, and as I explained to Joy not long ago, please understand that we are in the process of organizing/funding NPOC as well as undergoing elections. Therefore, we are not in the position to be very active nor effective in policy issues right now. In due course, this will change and meanwhile I ask for your understanding and patience. To summarize, better stick to a NCUC position. You can certainly state that NPOC has not consulted its membership for reasons stated above (organization of new NPOC Constituency and first full fledged NPOC Constituency elections - or maybe use wording such as transition in leadership if you prefer).

Best, Alain

2012/2/20 Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
Thanks Alain ? can someone however from NPOC confirm what Klaus suggested at the policy call last week as I would like to know before Wednesday whether this is a NCUC or NCSG position?

Many thanks for taking care of this.

KK

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Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark

Klaus does not have access to the list... so it is hard for him to express his opinion... Alain
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org<mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
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From: Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk><mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:00 +0000
Subject: Olympic mark

Hello all,

A quick question: am I correct in thinking that there is a uniform NCSG policy on the issue regarding the special protection sought by IOC and the Red Cross, re that they should not receive this type of protection? If, so I would like to present it as NCSG view rather than NCUC.

I recall Klaus agreeing with this view on the policy call last week, but I am not that certain and don't have the time to go through the MP3 recording.

Thanks

KK

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