[NCSG-FC] Welcome to new reps
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Fri Apr 11 18:41:17 EEST 2025
Hi Pascal,
Thank you for your reply and your response. I do appreciate you made effort
here and showed good will. It is important to nurture leadership and I
want to suggest to appoint you as vice chair, to think about the future.
We can still have a call at the week I suggested.
Best,
Rafik
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025, 21:35 Pascal Bekono <pbekono at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Rafik,
>
> I withdraw my application and I support Remmy as Chair for this NCSG-FC
> Committee.
>
> We will work together.
>
> Best regards
>
> Le jeu. 10 avr. 2025 à 10:27, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I understand that you both want to run for chair position and presented
>> your case here and take time to think carefully but cannot reach
>> conclusion. The chair would be elected by 2/3 of votes and meaning de facto
>> here that I will be the tie-breaker. I don't believe that was the intent or
>> spirit of the charter and I find it disturbing. My main concern here is
>> whoever will be elected means the other party might not be happy with
>> outcome, a normal human situation. This also means a risk of having a
>> dysfunctional FC while we are trying to get this committee reactivated and
>> step by step working on the list of activities listed in the charter. I
>> would like to find a clear a modus vivendi to allow this committee to work
>> regardless whoever is in the leadership
>>
>> I will be mostly offline in coming 2 weeks as I am traveling and be on
>> leave. I would like to schedule an FC call in the week of 28th April to
>> discuss this matter and also the FC plan for the year.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> As reminder about charter:
>>
>> *NCSG Finance Committee (NCSG‑FC):*
>>
>> The NCSG Finance Committee is responsible for establishing a firm
>> financial footing for the NCSG and administering NCSG funds within a
>> defined framework that meets relevant legal requirements as well as
>> requirements imposed by ICANN. The NCSG-FC’s responsibilities include fund
>> raising, setting voluntary contribution levels for members, determining
>> procedures for the distribution of funds, and for monitoring the
>> utilization of funds. The NCSG‑FC will also be responsible for the
>> Treasurer function. Formation of the NCSG-FC, its composition, and duties
>> within the NCSG‑FC are set out in Section 2.6.
>>
>>
>> *2.6 The Financial Committee*
>>
>> The NCSG Finance Committee is responsible for the following:
>>
>> - Elect a Chair who will also serve as NCSG Treasurer;
>> - Determine rates for voluntary contributions from members;
>> - Develop and deploy a fund‑raising plan for the NCSG;
>> - Work with the ICANN staff to determine levels of support available
>> to the NCSG;
>> - Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
>> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;
>> - Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
>> accounting will include the following:
>>
>> - All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must
>> be held in a separate NCSG account.
>>
>> - Proper controls must be implemented.
>>
>> - Regarding Expenditures:
>>
>> -
>> -
>> - All expenditures under 500 Euro may be made on the authority
>> of the NCSG Treasurer
>> - All expenditures over 500 Euro must be approved by the NCSG‑FC
>>
>> - Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.
>>
>> - Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.
>> - Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.
>> - Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed
>> financial requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for
>> organizations within the ICANN structure.
>> - Document methods and procedures used for accounting, reporting and
>> budget creation. Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG‑EC.
>>
>> *2.6.1. NCSG‑FC Composition.*
>>
>> The NCSG Finance Committee (FC) shall be comprised of one representative
>> from each Recognized Constituency. Each Candidate Constituency is entitled
>> to appoint an observer. The NCSG Chair will participate as an ex‑officio
>> member of the NCSG‑FC and will be included in consensus process and votes.
>> The FC may invite other members as needed to meet its goals and
>> responsibilities.
>>
>> *2.6.2. NCSG‑FC Decision making*
>>
>> By default NCSG‑FC decisions are made by rough consensus of its members.
>> Rough consensus means that while all members do not need to agree and that
>> no single member can veto a decision, all views must be heard and
>> considered. Any minority views must be recorded along with the decisions.
>>
>> *2.6.3. NCSG‑FC Leadership*
>>
>> A Chair from among the members of the NCSG‑FC will be elected by a 2/3
>> vote of the NCSG‑FC membership. The chair will be responsible for filling
>> any necessary Treasurer functions for the NCSG.
>>
>> - The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>> - One or more vice chairs may be chosen by the NCSG‑FC on a
>> yearly basis.
>>
>> *2.6.4. NCSG‑FC Work Process*
>>
>> - As much as possible, all work will be done using Internet tools,
>> including, inter alia,
>>
>> o email;
>>
>> o wiki usage (Note: such a wiki will be publicly viewable though
>> editing may be restricted to members of the NCSG‑FC);
>>
>> o online document collaboration tools, for example Google Document,
>> Google Wave and other available network cloud based tools.
>>
>> - When necessary teleconferences will be scheduled. A scheduling tool
>> will be used to attempt to find a time when all members can attend. Unless
>> all members can attend the teleconference, any decisions made at a
>> teleconference will be provisional until full consensus is determined.
>> - When possible, as enabled for example by an ICANN meeting, a
>> face-to-face meeting of the NCSG‑FC will be held. As with teleconferences,
>> if all members cannot attend, any decisions made will need to be verified
>> before being considered final.
>>
>> *2.6.5. NCSG‑FC Mailing List*
>>
>> - All NCSG‑FC full members and observers will be subscribed to the
>> NCSG‑FC mailing list;
>> - The NCSG‑FC list will maintain an open archive;
>> - For non‑subscribers, the list will be moderated. Comments from NCSG
>> members relevant to ongoing discussions will be forwarded to the NCSG‑FC
>> list by the list moderator.
>>
>> *2.6.6. NCSG‑FC Observers*
>>
>> - Any observer to the NCSG‑FC will have full participation rights
>> except will not be counted in any consensus process or vote.
>> - Elected or appointed representative from NCSG Candidate
>> Constituencies will be given observer status.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mer. 2 avr. 2025 à 11:28, Pascal Bekono <pbekono at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear Rafik, NCSG Chair
>>> Dear Remmy, NCSG-FC vice chair
>>>
>>> I am delighted to see that we are all friends here. That's great.
>>>
>>> The Finance Committee is very important, and in accordance with its
>>> charter, my activities will focus on:
>>> - transparent collaboration with the NCSG Chair and other members;
>>> - prioritizing capacity building with ICANN staff to understand current
>>> financial documents and methodologies;
>>> - regular monitoring of the NCSG's financial activities and trends;
>>> - improving the fundraising strategy to enable the NCSG to secure more
>>> funding and enhance its outreach activities, with the support of volunteers;
>>> - organizing a face-to-face meeting of the NCSG-FC once a year to define
>>> our annual strategy.(with ICANN support)
>>>
>>> I have extensive experience in strategy, finance, and budgeting. These
>>> include:
>>> - 10 years of experience in the budget department in our public
>>> administration;
>>> - Board of Directors of the World Computer Exchange (USA) in 2005; -
>>> - Venture Capital fellow at Laconia VC (USA) in 2005;
>>> - 2024 NCUC delegate to NOMCOM (mandate reduce because of the new
>>> bylaws);
>>> - former Board chair of African Center for Advocacy (2018-2024)
>>> - PMP training
>>> .......
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pascal
>>>
>>> Le mer. 2 avr. 2025 à 01:38, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Dear Rafik and Pascal,
>>>>
>>>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>>>
>>>> I am writing to reiterate my interest in chairing the Finance
>>>> Committee, a role that I believe my experience as former Vice Chair has
>>>> prepared me for.
>>>>
>>>> In my humble opinion, experience counts significantly in our voluntary
>>>> work at ICANN. Given my pedigree and previous contributions to the
>>>> committee, I am confident that my leadership will be beneficial to this
>>>> administration, particularly under your guidance, Rafik.
>>>>
>>>> As we approach the end of ICANN's financial year, I urge you both to
>>>> endorse my chairmanship. This will enable us to make meaningful progress
>>>> and achieve our goals.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik, as a respected friend, ICANN colleague of long years, and
>>>> current NCSG Chair, I encourage you to leverage your leadership to
>>>> streamline NCSG's finances and explore opportunities for improvement, which
>>>> for me was some of the core reasons we voted you back. A stable financial
>>>> foundation is crucial for our community's growth and advocacy efforts.
>>>>
>>>> By supporting my candidacy, you will be contributing to the committee's
>>>> effectiveness and the NCSG's overall success. I appreciate your
>>>> understanding, cooperation, and anticipated feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>> Former Vice Chairman, Finance Committee, NCSG
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>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:14 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> any chance to resolve this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> Le lun. 10 mars 2025 à 01:57, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok
>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, 06:49 Rafik Dammak, <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi Remmy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are 3 members of the FC and we already have 2 candidates for the
>>>>>>> same position. We need to find another way to solve this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 22:07, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a
>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Precisely, I do not have any challenge in having Kossi as observer
>>>>>>>> and I so move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secondly, having been in the FC previously as the Vice Chair among
>>>>>>>> others, I would like to throw in my hat into the ring, to lead this
>>>>>>>> Committee, with the support of you all.
>>>>>>>> Thanks in anticipation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, 10:29 Rafik Dammak via NCSG-FC, <
>>>>>>>> ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Pascal,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. For clarification, it is for the
>>>>>>>>> candidate constituency to appoint observer not the recognized constituency
>>>>>>>>> such as NCUC and NPOC.
>>>>>>>>> I take note you are a candidate for the FC chair position.
>>>>>>>>> Currently, we are 3 members in the FC, representatives from NCUC and from
>>>>>>>>> NPOC and myself ex-officio. I don't think we have any operating procedures
>>>>>>>>> yet. for reference the provision in NCSG charter:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *2.6.3. NCSG‑FC Leadership*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A Chair from among the members of the NCSG‑FC will be elected by a
>>>>>>>>> 2/3 vote of the NCSG‑FC membership. The chair will be responsible for
>>>>>>>>> filling any necessary Treasurer functions for the NCSG.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>>>>>>>> - One or more vice chairs may be chosen by the NCSG‑FC
>>>>>>>>> on a yearly basis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 11:32, Pascal Bekono <pbekono at gmail.com> a
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your email, it's an honour to join this committee.
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding your first subject. I approve the designation of M.
>>>>>>>>>> Kossi as abserver, it's the prerogative of each constituency to appoint an
>>>>>>>>>> observer as stipulated in the charter.
>>>>>>>>>> For the second point of your message, I am a candidate for the
>>>>>>>>>> position of FC chair.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 02:56, Rafik Dammak via NCSG-FC <
>>>>>>>>>> ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to welcome you as the new representatives to NCSG FC. We
>>>>>>>>>>> want to reactivate FC and schedule some activities following the mission
>>>>>>>>>>> described in NCSG charter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As a topic, I would like to confirm observer status. NPOC sent
>>>>>>>>>>> the name of Kossi Amessinou as observer. However, inviting
>>>>>>>>>>> observers is only the prerogative of FC to decide on. Please share your
>>>>>>>>>>> input on the matter. Another admin matter will be the appointment of an FC
>>>>>>>>>>> chair.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>>
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