From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Mar  4 19:02:39 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:02:39 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re:  ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Dear Thato, All,

Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or are there changes to be made?

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
Date: Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and financial reporting )

c. Q & A (10 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10 min)
Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the NCSG Charter and FC OP

e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their priorities, needs and wants

g. Open floor (15 min)

h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising plan (5 min)
Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG

i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building internal capacity (5 min)


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From remmyn at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 20:41:30 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 19:41:30 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Dear Rafik
Thanks for raising some of the issues which I think Thato has tried to
respond to same which seems unsatisfactory in your response, which I do not
entirely think is correct.
I will like, therefore, to ask, in which area of ICANN.org does FC mandate
falls because looking at the charter 2.6 you will see among others that FC
has to:
"? Work with the ICANN staff to determine levels of support available to
the NCSG;

 "? Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN; etc

 "? Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. " etc.

Also in order to:

"?Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations
within the ICANN structure.


Does aforementioned not suggest the need to interface with ICANN Finance?


Thanks

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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:28 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ICANN Finance team primary role and goal is ICANN own finance through
> budget, operating plan, reserve etc.
> ABRs are as its name says additional budget requests to what already in
> the budget for supporting community work.
> no, I don't see any other role for finance team. I can understand
> engagement related to ICANN budget operating plan for FY20 as that impact
> gTLD PDPs (which our main focus and that is why we are involved) and ABRs
> but not about NCSG finance.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> Le sam. 23 f?vr. 2019 ? 08:14, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Does ICANN finance also have nothing to do with the other 3 reasons as
>> listed? If so, what other role do you think ICANN finance can play to
>> support communities besides ABRs and budgets?
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:46 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am not expecting ICANN to manage our bank account but provide advice
>>>> on how this can be best managed and remmber that the FC activities must
>>>> adhere to ICANN bylaws, so if there are deviations, we need to be made
>>>> aware of such or ensure adherence.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sorry that is not ICANN Finance team role or remit. ICANN Bylaws says
>>> nothing about SG/C finance or expectations.
>>>
>>> I think my point is clear, ICANN org and Finance team in particular has
>>> nothing to do with how NCSG manages its finance. Accountability is ensured
>>> by NCSG membership first.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN Finance doesn't get involved on SG/C finance and refuse to
>>>>> manage bank accounts (in particular for those collecting membership fees)
>>>>> on their behalf for liability reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> when ICANN give any in-kind or financial support, it already control
>>>>> the whole process i.e. procurement, hiring external resources, travel
>>>>> arrangement etc. In other cases like for membership system, it ask SG/C to
>>>>> pay first then it reimburse. As organization, it mitigates risks and
>>>>> doesn't let community to be involved on the process other making request
>>>>> through ABRs etc. it is the same for PDP WGs ( I am aware of as I am
>>>>> involved for EPDP)
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN Finance team looks usually to discuss about ICANN budget and
>>>>> operating plan not about internal finance of SG/C.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le ven. 22 f?vr. 2019 ? 10:34, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a
>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry Stephanie to come in here.
>>>>>> Others may choose to ignore it but I think there is a role based on
>>>>>> our NCSG charter guidelines especially on report back on how money or funds
>>>>>> given to stakeholders group or received from all sources are expended.
>>>>>> In financial management it's usually a precondition for another round
>>>>>> of support which I think ICANN.org is not strict about otherwise they
>>>>>> should be making the demands.
>>>>>> May be because there are individual reports very often and I know
>>>>>> Maryam team emphasis on this too as precondition.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 1:01 a.m. Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you inquired of other Stakeholder Groups, how they handle their
>>>>>>> finances?  What role does ICANN play?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would suspect none.  It is not their place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>> On 2019-02-21 18:47, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Thato
>>>>>>> It should have been very helpful If I was to be there to assist in
>>>>>>> some physically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, there will be need for online participation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is need also to have an ICANN staff preferably from Finance
>>>>>>> speak to some of the issues, especially in responsibility and expectations
>>>>>>> from an FC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Equally a few minutes remarks by NCSG chair will not be out of place
>>>>>>> as well as Cs chair. May be NCSG 3minutes, C chairs 2minutes each. They
>>>>>>> will still speak to issues as intervention arises.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>> ____
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>>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
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>>>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *1. This is final call for iput on the ICANN64 FC meeting agenda
>>>>>>>> (90 minutes), please make your input so that I can circulate in the mailing
>>>>>>>> list by Monday 25 February for community input.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Proposed Agenda
>>>>>>>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>>>>>>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page
>>>>>>>> and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>>>>>>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>>>>>>>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>>>>>>>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>>>>>>>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>>>>>>>> financial reporting )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the
>>>>>>>> overview (10 min)
>>>>>>>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy
>>>>>>>> between the NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>>>>>>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>>>>>>>> priorities, needs and wants
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>>>>>>>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>>>>>>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure -
>>>>>>>> building internal capacity (5 min)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *2. Should the be an oversight somewhere, please make
>>>>>>>> recommendation. *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *3. Please also make input in terms of resource people who will be
>>>>>>>> needed to ease proceedings of this meeting and can also provide answers. I
>>>>>>>> still maintain that we need ICANN finance, so that we are able to discuss
>>>>>>>> ways on how the FC can leverage on ICANN finances and improve on the ABR
>>>>>>>> submission process.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>>>>>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing listNCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>>>>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>>>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>
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>>>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 20:45:30 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 19:45:30 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Thanks Maryam
I am ok with the agenda. Thato will add final changes if any especially
since he will be on site.
Regards
____
REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
(DigitalSENSE Business News
<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
<http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
<http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
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*2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
JOIN us!!

*Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS
<http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)

*NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
_________________________________________________________________
*Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments
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not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
wrote:

> Dear Thato, All,
>
>
>
> Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or
> are there changes to be made?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe
> <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Date: *Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
> *To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
>
>
>
> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>
> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with
> the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>
>
>
> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>
> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
> financial reporting )
>
>
>
> c. Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
> min)
>
> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the
> NCSG Charter and FC OP
>
>
>
> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>
>
>
> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>
> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
> priorities, needs and wants
>
>
>
> g. Open floor (15 min)
>
>
>
> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
> plan (5 min)
>
> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>
>
>
> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
> internal capacity (5 min)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 21:01:18 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 21:01:18 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Hi Maryam,

I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no
significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will
be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items.
Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will
also be given opportunity to speak.


*ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time)
<https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings?classes[]=Groups%3A%3AMeetings%3A%3AMeeting>*

*Proposed Meeting Agenda*

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)

c. Q & A (8 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
min)

e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)

g. Open floor (12 min)

h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
plan (5 min)

i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
internal capacity (5 min)

k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
wrote:

> Dear Thato, All,
>
>
>
> Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or
> are there changes to be made?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe
> <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Date: *Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
> *To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
>
>
>
> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>
> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with
> the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>
>
>
> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>
> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
> financial reporting )
>
>
>
> c. Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
> min)
>
> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the
> NCSG Charter and FC OP
>
>
>
> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>
>
>
> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>
> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
> priorities, needs and wants
>
>
>
> g. Open floor (15 min)
>
>
>
> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
> plan (5 min)
>
> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>
>
>
> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
> internal capacity (5 min)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Mar  4 21:36:08 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 19:36:08 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Thank you, Thato.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
Date: Monday, 4 March 2019 at 19:01
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary

Hi Maryam,

I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items. Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will also be given opportunity to speak.

ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time) [64.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__64.schedule.icann.org_meetings-3Fclasses-5B-5D-3DGroups-253A-253AMeetings-253A-253AMeeting&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=O24VgOmDXnBNtkB5c2fKQ5P5vfBiaO0-OkHhapnA-E8&s=TmG9Zq3nRDJH1sC8P-fHC41LdN5AnNaI2AIsyOWuKaI&e=>

Proposed Meeting Agenda

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)

c. Q & A (8 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10 min)

e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)

g. Open floor (12 min)

h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising plan (5 min)

i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building internal capacity (5 min)

k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>> wrote:
Dear Thato, All,

Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or are there changes to be made?

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>>
Date: Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and financial reporting )

c. Q & A (10 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10 min)
Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the NCSG Charter and FC OP

e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their priorities, needs and wants

g. Open floor (15 min)

h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising plan (5 min)
Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG

i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building internal capacity (5 min)

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 02:53:43 2019
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 09:53:43 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Hi Remmy,

I think your reading is not accurate. What you are quoting indicates:
- that FC will work with staff regard level of support, that means ABRs ,
core budget that cover travel support, admin support/staff etc and any
other funding that may come from other ICANN departments.
- that NCSG will follow financial requirements if there are, which is not
the case here. ICANN as org or board didn't set any guidelines or
requirements for SG/C regarding finance. So ICANN Finance has nothing to do
with NCSG Finance.

I only see discussion about ABRs as relevant but that process already
passed.

Best,

Rafik

Le mar. 5 mars 2019 ? 03:41, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Dear Rafik
> Thanks for raising some of the issues which I think Thato has tried to
> respond to same which seems unsatisfactory in your response, which I do not
> entirely think is correct.
> I will like, therefore, to ask, in which area of ICANN.org does FC mandate
> falls because looking at the charter 2.6 you will see among others that FC
> has to:
> "? Work with the ICANN staff to determine levels of support available to
> the NCSG;
>
>  "? Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN; etc
>
>  "? Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. " etc.
>
> Also in order to:
>
> "?Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
> requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations
> within the ICANN structure.
>
>
> Does aforementioned not suggest the need to interface with ICANN Finance?
>
>
> Thanks
>
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>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:28 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ICANN Finance team primary role and goal is ICANN own finance through
>> budget, operating plan, reserve etc.
>> ABRs are as its name says additional budget requests to what already in
>> the budget for supporting community work.
>> no, I don't see any other role for finance team. I can understand
>> engagement related to ICANN budget operating plan for FY20 as that impact
>> gTLD PDPs (which our main focus and that is why we are involved) and ABRs
>> but not about NCSG finance.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> Le sam. 23 f?vr. 2019 ? 08:14, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> Does ICANN finance also have nothing to do with the other 3 reasons as
>>> listed? If so, what other role do you think ICANN finance can play to
>>> support communities besides ABRs and budgets?
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:46 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am not expecting ICANN to manage our bank account but provide advice
>>>>> on how this can be best managed and remmber that the FC activities must
>>>>> adhere to ICANN bylaws, so if there are deviations, we need to be made
>>>>> aware of such or ensure adherence.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sorry that is not ICANN Finance team role or remit. ICANN Bylaws says
>>>> nothing about SG/C finance or expectations.
>>>>
>>>> I think my point is clear, ICANN org and Finance team in particular has
>>>> nothing to do with how NCSG manages its finance. Accountability is ensured
>>>> by NCSG membership first.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN Finance doesn't get involved on SG/C finance and refuse to
>>>>>> manage bank accounts (in particular for those collecting membership fees)
>>>>>> on their behalf for liability reasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when ICANN give any in-kind or financial support, it already control
>>>>>> the whole process i.e. procurement, hiring external resources, travel
>>>>>> arrangement etc. In other cases like for membership system, it ask SG/C to
>>>>>> pay first then it reimburse. As organization, it mitigates risks and
>>>>>> doesn't let community to be involved on the process other making request
>>>>>> through ABRs etc. it is the same for PDP WGs ( I am aware of as I am
>>>>>> involved for EPDP)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN Finance team looks usually to discuss about ICANN budget and
>>>>>> operating plan not about internal finance of SG/C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le ven. 22 f?vr. 2019 ? 10:34, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a
>>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry Stephanie to come in here.
>>>>>>> Others may choose to ignore it but I think there is a role based on
>>>>>>> our NCSG charter guidelines especially on report back on how money or funds
>>>>>>> given to stakeholders group or received from all sources are expended.
>>>>>>> In financial management it's usually a precondition for another
>>>>>>> round of support which I think ICANN.org is not strict about otherwise they
>>>>>>> should be making the demands.
>>>>>>> May be because there are individual reports very often and I know
>>>>>>> Maryam team emphasis on this too as precondition.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 1:01 a.m. Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you inquired of other Stakeholder Groups, how they handle
>>>>>>>> their finances?  What role does ICANN play?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would suspect none.  It is not their place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>>> On 2019-02-21 18:47, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Thato
>>>>>>>> It should have been very helpful If I was to be there to assist in
>>>>>>>> some physically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, there will be need for online participation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is need also to have an ICANN staff preferably from Finance
>>>>>>>> speak to some of the issues, especially in responsibility and expectations
>>>>>>>> from an FC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Equally a few minutes remarks by NCSG chair will not be out of
>>>>>>>> place as well as Cs chair. May be NCSG 3minutes, C chairs 2minutes each.
>>>>>>>> They will still speak to issues as intervention arises.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>> ____
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>>>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
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>>>>>>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>>>>>>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
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>>>>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
>>>>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>>>>>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>>>>>>>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>>>>>>>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>>>>>>>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>>>>>>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>>>>>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *1. This is final call for iput on the ICANN64 FC meeting agenda
>>>>>>>>> (90 minutes), please make your input so that I can circulate in the mailing
>>>>>>>>> list by Monday 25 February for community input.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Proposed Agenda
>>>>>>>>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>>>>>>>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page
>>>>>>>>> and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>>>>>>>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>>>>>>>>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>>>>>>>>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>>>>>>>>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>>>>>>>>> financial reporting )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the
>>>>>>>>> overview (10 min)
>>>>>>>>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy
>>>>>>>>> between the NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>>>>>>>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>>>>>>>>> priorities, needs and wants
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>>>>>>>>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>>>>>>>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure -
>>>>>>>>> building internal capacity (5 min)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *2. Should the be an oversight somewhere, please make
>>>>>>>>> recommendation. *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *3. Please also make input in terms of resource people who will be
>>>>>>>>> needed to ease proceedings of this meeting and can also provide answers. I
>>>>>>>>> still maintain that we need ICANN finance, so that we are able to discuss
>>>>>>>>> ways on how the FC can leverage on ICANN finances and improve on the ABR
>>>>>>>>> submission process.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> NCSG-FC mailing listNCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>>>>>>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 11:13:28 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 10:13:28 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
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Thanks Rafik, for the response and explanation given by you.

If there were no basis for interfacing ICANN Finance, for instance, why was
it inserted in the first instance in a charter?

I would love to also hear from ICANN Finance and possibly ICANN counsel on
or before ICANN65 since its too late now on the literary interpretation of
those mandates, so we can move forward without much ado.

Until such a time when we revisit the charter for amendment, which I think
is over due after 8 years of inactive and attendant misconception and
misunderstanding.

Therefore, FC deserves every support at all levels to kick start this
processes among others.
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:54 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Remmy,
>
> I think your reading is not accurate. What you are quoting indicates:
> - that FC will work with staff regard level of support, that means ABRs ,
> core budget that cover travel support, admin support/staff etc and any
> other funding that may come from other ICANN departments.
> - that NCSG will follow financial requirements if there are, which is not
> the case here. ICANN as org or board didn't set any guidelines or
> requirements for SG/C regarding finance. So ICANN Finance has nothing to do
> with NCSG Finance.
>
> I only see discussion about ABRs as relevant but that process already
> passed.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mar. 5 mars 2019 ? 03:41, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
>> Dear Rafik
>> Thanks for raising some of the issues which I think Thato has tried to
>> respond to same which seems unsatisfactory in your response, which I do not
>> entirely think is correct.
>> I will like, therefore, to ask, in which area of ICANN.org does FC
>> mandate falls because looking at the charter 2.6 you will see among others
>> that FC has to:
>> "? Work with the ICANN staff to determine levels of support available to
>> the NCSG;
>>
>>  "? Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
>> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN; etc
>>
>>  "? Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. " etc.
>>
>> Also in order to:
>>
>> "?Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
>> requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations
>> within the ICANN structure.
>>
>>
>> Does aforementioned not suggest the need to interface with ICANN Finance?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> ____
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>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:28 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ICANN Finance team primary role and goal is ICANN own finance through
>>> budget, operating plan, reserve etc.
>>> ABRs are as its name says additional budget requests to what already in
>>> the budget for supporting community work.
>>> no, I don't see any other role for finance team. I can understand
>>> engagement related to ICANN budget operating plan for FY20 as that impact
>>> gTLD PDPs (which our main focus and that is why we are involved) and ABRs
>>> but not about NCSG finance.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> Le sam. 23 f?vr. 2019 ? 08:14, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>
>>>> Does ICANN finance also have nothing to do with the other 3 reasons as
>>>> listed? If so, what other role do you think ICANN finance can play to
>>>> support communities besides ABRs and budgets?
>>>>
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:46 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not expecting ICANN to manage our bank account but provide
>>>>>> advice on how this can be best managed and remmber that the FC activities
>>>>>> must adhere to ICANN bylaws, so if there are deviations, we need to be made
>>>>>> aware of such or ensure adherence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry that is not ICANN Finance team role or remit. ICANN Bylaws says
>>>>> nothing about SG/C finance or expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think my point is clear, ICANN org and Finance team in particular
>>>>> has nothing to do with how NCSG manages its finance. Accountability is
>>>>> ensured by NCSG membership first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN Finance doesn't get involved on SG/C finance and refuse to
>>>>>>> manage bank accounts (in particular for those collecting membership fees)
>>>>>>> on their behalf for liability reasons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when ICANN give any in-kind or financial support, it already control
>>>>>>> the whole process i.e. procurement, hiring external resources, travel
>>>>>>> arrangement etc. In other cases like for membership system, it ask SG/C to
>>>>>>> pay first then it reimburse. As organization, it mitigates risks and
>>>>>>> doesn't let community to be involved on the process other making request
>>>>>>> through ABRs etc. it is the same for PDP WGs ( I am aware of as I am
>>>>>>> involved for EPDP)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN Finance team looks usually to discuss about ICANN budget and
>>>>>>> operating plan not about internal finance of SG/C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le ven. 22 f?vr. 2019 ? 10:34, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a
>>>>>>> ?crit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry Stephanie to come in here.
>>>>>>>> Others may choose to ignore it but I think there is a role based on
>>>>>>>> our NCSG charter guidelines especially on report back on how money or funds
>>>>>>>> given to stakeholders group or received from all sources are expended.
>>>>>>>> In financial management it's usually a precondition for another
>>>>>>>> round of support which I think ICANN.org is not strict about otherwise they
>>>>>>>> should be making the demands.
>>>>>>>> May be because there are individual reports very often and I know
>>>>>>>> Maryam team emphasis on this too as precondition.
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 1:01 a.m. Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you inquired of other Stakeholder Groups, how they handle
>>>>>>>>> their finances?  What role does ICANN play?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would suspect none.  It is not their place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>>>> On 2019-02-21 18:47, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Thato
>>>>>>>>> It should have been very helpful If I was to be there to assist in
>>>>>>>>> some physically.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, there will be need for online participation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is need also to have an ICANN staff preferably from Finance
>>>>>>>>> speak to some of the issues, especially in responsibility and expectations
>>>>>>>>> from an FC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Equally a few minutes remarks by NCSG chair will not be out of
>>>>>>>>> place as well as Cs chair. May be NCSG 3minutes, C chairs 2minutes each.
>>>>>>>>> They will still speak to issues as intervention arises.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>>> Remmy
>>>>>>>>> ____
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Thato Mfikwe <
>>>>>>>>> thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *1. This is final call for iput on the ICANN64 FC meeting agenda
>>>>>>>>>> (90 minutes), please make your input so that I can circulate in the mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list by Monday 25 February for community input.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Proposed Agenda
>>>>>>>>>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>>>>>>>>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page
>>>>>>>>>> and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>>>>>>>>>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>>>>>>>>>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>>>>>>>>>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>>>>>>>>>> financial reporting )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the
>>>>>>>>>> overview (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy
>>>>>>>>>> between the NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>>>>>>>>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>>>>>>>>>> priorities, needs and wants
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>>>>>>>>>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>>>>>>>>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure -
>>>>>>>>>> building internal capacity (5 min)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *2. Should the be an oversight somewhere, please make
>>>>>>>>>> recommendation. *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *3. Please also make input in terms of resource people who will
>>>>>>>>>> be needed to ease proceedings of this meeting and can also provide answers.
>>>>>>>>>> I still maintain that we need ICANN finance, so that we are able to discuss
>>>>>>>>>> ways on how the FC can leverage on ICANN finances and improve on the ABR
>>>>>>>>>> submission process.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>>>>>>
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From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 10:41:13 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Opening a bank account
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Sorry, I am just seeing this.

As much as I understand the urgency in opening an account for NCSG it's
important we do not over flog this issue.
I think even if that was the position of EC, the FC should have formal
Communication prior to and the level of discussion now should have been put
to rest. Because it is within the FC mandate according to our charter but
with common understanding we make more progress.

To the best of my knowledge it did not confirm with our charter outside the
exigencies of one paying out of pocket. I really emphatise with Farz
hitherto and Stephanie now.

One major area I remember we got stuck was adoption of SPV - Special
Purpose Vehicle - which was what ISOC invariably used PIR for instance to
achieve to manage .org; with the hope that I thought NCUC already has an
account? I will like to be corrected if otherwise.
I am also sure NPOC has one, with intension that any of the existing
accounts could be used under subaccount to receive inflow from outside
sources like PIR etc under an MoU to avoid future abuse incase those who
understand the Mou have exited office and to make it business like which
in long term is what  Stephanie said was advised by Milton. If I got that
correctly.

The NCSG account issue should look beyond PIR support to people or entities
that will like to deal with NCSG as an organisation on its own, which very
often will demand a corporate account with attendant structure. So it goes
beyond trusting our chair IMO but institution.

Whilst we enjoy our relationship with PIR, I will also suggest that the
NCSG chair look at the draft FC operating procedures and let's have her
feel now she is on the saddle.

And let's continue talk on this.
Best regards.
Remmy Nweke

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, 1:08 a.m. Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:

> THanks Farzi, and as I have said from the get go, I am happy to follow
> whatever procedures we have developed but we cannot afford to leave the PIR
> money in limbo any longer, we need to open an account in the name of NCSG>
>
> Let me know if I can help with the procedures.
>
> Stephanie
> On 2019-01-14 17:57, farzaneh badii wrote:
>
> I fully support Stephanie's action on this matter. It was a last resort
> action, but it's needed because Stephanie's personal money is at stake. The
> finance committee since at least June 2018 has been stuck in drafting the
> operating procedures, it did not come to consensus over its terms and
> delayed resolving the issues until now. Meanwhile, I had to pay out of
> pocket to keep the NCSG services going and now Stephanie has to It's
> totally unfair.
>
> The chair cannot just continuously pay out of pocket and wait for being
> reimbursed because the Finance Committee cannot come up with a solution. I
> 100% trust Stephanie in being the account holder and I am sure she will
> come up with a consultative solution later on. The current NCUC funder also
> knows Stephanie very well and it won't cause a problem with that regard
> should they decide to send the money to NCSG. Also note that she won't be
> the treasurer, so she doesn't unilaterally decide on the approval of funds.
>
> I encourage the Finance Committee to resolve issues of the operating
> procedures and have a lightweight process in place for disbursement of the
> fund which should be approved by EC. I thank Stephanie for accepting this
> responsibility for now.
>
>
> Best
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 5:29 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> What procedures have we been following in the past Thato?  I am happy to
>> follow them, but to the best of my knowledge they do not exist.
>>
>> Separation of duties is normal in financial accountability procedures.
>> EC is responsible for delegation of authority to spend (they make the
>> decision about who gets funded with the PIR money), FC is accountable for
>> oversight.  RIght now, nobody is taking responsibility for paying the
>> bills, except me.  Farzi did it before me.
>>
>> Now I have spent days on this, answering emails and trying to respond to
>> everybody.  If we don't open a bank account, we won't get any money.  I am
>> getting a bit grouchy, I will respond once I get to Toronto where we have a
>> major battle looming on the EPDP.  If people did not trust me, they should
>> not have elected me Chair, and I will cheerfully step down if that is the
>> case.  Oh and apparently, according to Milton, who has been accepting the
>> PIR money for many years, we will need a business number that they
>> recognize.  That will be my next job, registering a non-entity for a
>> business number, and ensuring that it has non-tax status.
>>
>> THis is not a simple matter and I would apprecaite support
>>
>>
>> Kind regards, Stephanie
>> On 2019-01-14 17:13, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephanie,
>>
>> I just saw your statement on the mailing list regarding the bank account
>> as follows:
>>
>>
>> " I am happy to sign a letter that acknowledges my accountability for
>> any funds that I will deposit on behalf of NCSG, and any payments will of
>> course be made only with the consent of the NCSG-EC; the Finance Committee
>> canbe cc'd on those if that is a function that you wish to commence doing
>> (oversight, not approval). "
>>
>> 1. If my memory serves me well, the last time NCSG FC discussed the bank
>> account there was no way forward, not sure how this decision was reached
>> because the FC was yet to investigate and discuss the matter before any
>> action taken according to your comments during an online meeting and on the
>> mailing list, correct me if I am mistaken, maybe I am losing something here.
>>
>> 2. What provoked this action from your side?
>>
>> 3. Please kindly clarify what you mean by oversight not approval? Are you
>> referring to the FC and/or the PC of NCSG? If any, please also carefully
>> review section 2.6 of NCSG charter because the charter is the guiding
>> document of NCSG activities and committees, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:23 PM Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> As promised, I have opened a bank account for NCSG under my name at the
>>> Royal Bank of Canada, Pakenham Ontario Branch.  I have named Tamir Israel
>>> of CIPPIC as an "or" cosigner, which means either one can sign a cheque.
>>> This will of course only be used if I get hit by a bus, which is a really
>>> bad joke in Ottawa these days because we just had a dreadful bus crash
>>> which killed three people.  (proving that even old expressions like that
>>> one have meaning.)
>>>
>>> The account is free, because I am a senior, and I can write cheques or
>>> do e-transfers with it.  I think it is all we need for now, but if someone
>>> like PIR wants to write us a cheque, they have to write it to me on behalf
>>> of NCSG so that I can deposit it.  I think we are stuck with that reality
>>> until we create an entity.  Even a non-incorporated ngo would have to have
>>> a business number, which has tax implications, so this is our best
>>> solution.  I will forward the bank details, transit numbers etc. as soon as
>>> these numbers are available online.  I am happy to sign a letter that
>>> acknowledges my accountability for any funds that I will deposit on behalf
>>> of NCSG, and any payments will of course be made only with the consent of
>>> the NCSG-EC; the Finance Committee canbe cc'd on those if that is a
>>> function that you wish to commence doing (oversight, not approval).
>>>
>>> I am happy to discuss any aspects of this either on the list or on our
>>> next call.  Advice from Milton, who has so ably managed our money in NCUC
>>> for many years, would be most welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers Stephanie
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar  6 12:28:07 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 11:28:07 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] URGENT: Adoption of FC Operational Procedures
In-Reply-To: <e4987ef5-4810-4b04-6cfd-db2dd3a09b94@mail.utoronto.ca>
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Thanks for eventually making out time to look at the OP and points are well
noted.

I want to believe that after Kobe, every other comments will be harmonized.

Regards
Remmy

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019, 7:32 p.m. Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:

> Although I did say I cannot review them over the weekend Thato, I have
> indeed looked at the operating procedures.  I think they need a lot of
> work.  They are not ready for the NCSG EC.  Here is a very short list of my
> feedback; as I said, I cannot really go into detail until after Kobe but I
> am putting half an hour on the agenda of the NCSG meeting for a discussion
> of our goals for the FC.
>
>    - There has not been an active FC since the Charter was developed.  We
>    should therefore revisit the Charter to see if if still matches reality,
>    after 9 years.  We agree, for instance, that the membership is too small.
>    - The Op procedures lack a logical structure.  They should refer to
>    the Charter, not quote it.  There is repetition of goals (for pages).  If
>    we need definitions, they need to be in the appendix.  Every one of them
>    needs to be checked.
>    - Sections currently have sub categories that do not fit within the
>    section title.
>    - We need crystal clarity about whose money we are monitoring....ICANN
>    is responsible for accountability re its travel funding (e.g. for
>    councillors, executives, etc).  Rafik has pointed this out recently on the
>    list, but it is an extremely important distinction.
>    - We need a discussion on fundraising and membership fees....prior to
>    drafting operating procedures.
>    - We need a discussion on creating an entity for NCSG before a
>    fundraising strategy is developed.
>    - there are details in there about amounts of funding that require
>    approval....but how will that approval be achieved?  how did you arrive at
>    those amounts?
>    - What are the policy considerations behind funding decisions, and how
>    will those decisions be made?  If, for instance, the GNSO council members
>    decided they needed to bring a subject matter expert to a given meeting to
>    speak on a topic, could the FC veto that decision?  the parameters of the
>    authority of the FC have been neither discussed in plenary, nor described
>    in this document, and this is important.
>
> I think this is enough for now.  Much work still needs to be done on this
> document in my view, and on the very nature of the FC and its
> responsibilities.  Fortunately, we have no money at the moment so there is
> no urgency to this.  We have the time to do this correctly, let us do so.
>
> Stephanie
>
> Hi Stephanie and all,
>
> Can you please kindly and urgently review the *2nd version of the FC
> Draft OP
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MhJH2sxV1r9g6rCRHkPG50mgUrXeDxnweVB2xZWJLWA/edit>*,
> I would like to ask Stephanie to forward this draft, if agreed, to the NCSG
> EC for review and comment, on Monday or once adopted. The sooner we are
> able to get the EC input, the easier it will be to finalise and adopt this
> document.
>
> The objections and contention points that will emerge from this submission
> will form discussion points during the FC Kobe meeting.
>
> Please also note that this document tried to balance the inputs,
> suggestions and comments of the Finance committee with that of the
> community, should you deem necessary to make further comment, please do so
> ASAP. I wish that the adoption of the FC OP be finalised by end of April
> 2019 and obtain feedback from the EC by 4 March latest. I also understand
> your busy schedules and apologies for the needed pressure, thanks in
> advance.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mfikwentjatje at gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 23:31:07 2019
From: mfikwentjatje at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 23:31:07 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
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Hi all

Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance
committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the NCUC
EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019
<https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125>, please make needed
decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please
excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).

@Remmy, please remember to join our session with NCSG EC
<https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125> today, thanks in advance.

@Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to
present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).

Thato Mfikwe.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <
malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Thato:
> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows
> social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the
> Finance Committee.
> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I hail
> from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first ICANN
> meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG and
> NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>
> Regards,
> Malisa Richards
>
>
> --
> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the content
> of this email.
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Sun Mar 10 09:54:32 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 08:54:32 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
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Thanks Thato
Sure you traveled well to Kobe.

Please let's continue to encourage Membership of FC. I think formal call
should come after Kobe to properly integrate all new members.
It should not be a piece meal.

Yes I will try to join the meeting scheduled for 15:15hrs. Thanks

Regards
Remmy Nweke


On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 7:08 a.m. Thato Mfikwe <mfikwentjatje at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance
> committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the NCUC
> EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125>, please make needed
> decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please
> excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).
>
> @Remmy, please remember to join our session with NCSG EC
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125> today, thanks in advance.
>
> @Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to
> present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <
> malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Thato:
>> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows
>> social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the
>> Finance Committee.
>> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I
>> hail from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first
>> ICANN meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG
>> and NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Malisa Richards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the
>> content of this email.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sun Mar 10 10:58:16 2019
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 08:58:16 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
In-Reply-To: <CAMc__opX71uSEptcUJgs3z-L4CLSgv=OkkKNM7zYBN8XLZbYew@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,

Please note that section 2.6.1 of the NCSG Charter states:

NCSG?FC Composition.

The NCSG Finance Committee (FC) shall be comprised of one representative from each Recognized Constituency. Each Candidate Constituency is entitled to appoint an observer. The NCSG Chair will participate as an ex?officio member of the NCSG?FC and will be included in consensus process and votes.

It is the decision of the NCUC and NPOC to determine who will be their one observer, and, as such, the decision to appoint someone as an observer is a decision outside of our remit.

Kind regards,
Ayden F?rdeline

??????? Original Message ???????
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 8:54 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Thato
> Sure you traveled well to Kobe.
>
> Please let's continue to encourage Membership of FC. I think formal call should come after Kobe to properly integrate all new members.
> It should not be a piece meal.
>
> Yes I will try to join the meeting scheduled for 15:15hrs. Thanks
>
> Regards
> Remmy Nweke
>
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 7:08 a.m. Thato Mfikwe <mfikwentjatje at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the [NCUC EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019](https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125), please make needed decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).
>>
>> @Remmy, please remember to join our session with [NCSG EC](https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125) today, thanks in advance.
>>
>> @Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Thato:
>>> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the Finance Committee.
>>> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I hail from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first ICANN meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG and NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Malisa Richards
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the content of this email.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Sun Mar 10 15:48:15 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 15:48:15 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
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Hi Ayden,

The last sentence of the section you are reffering to states, "The FC may
invite other members as needed to meet face to faceas  "


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Please note that section 2.6.1 of the NCSG Charter states:
>
> *NCSG?FC Composition.*
> *The NCSG Finance Committee (FC) shall be comprised of one representative
> from each Recognized Constituency. Each Candidate Constituency is entitled
> to appoint an observer. The NCSG Chair will participate as an ex?officio
> member of the NCSG?FC and will be included in consensus process and votes.*
>
> It is the decision of the NCUC and NPOC to determine who will be their one
> observer, and, as such, the decision to appoint someone as an observer is a
> decision outside of our remit.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 8:54 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Thato
> Sure you traveled well to Kobe.
>
> Please let's continue to encourage Membership of FC. I think formal call
> should come after Kobe to properly integrate all new members.
> It should not be a piece meal.
>
> Yes I will try to join the meeting scheduled for 15:15hrs. Thanks
>
> Regards
> Remmy Nweke
>
>
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 7:08 a.m. Thato Mfikwe <mfikwentjatje at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance
>> committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the NCUC
>> EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019
>> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125>, please make needed
>> decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please
>> excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).
>>
>> @Remmy, please remember to join our session with NCSG EC
>> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125> today, thanks in advance.
>>
>> @Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to
>> present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <
>> malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Thato:
>>> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows
>>> social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the
>>> Finance Committee.
>>> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I
>>> hail from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first
>>> ICANN meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG
>>> and NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Malisa Richards
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the
>>> content of this email.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Sun Mar 10 17:02:04 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 17:02:04 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
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Hi Ayden,

Apologies, was sleepy when I responded to this, I meant to say that the
last sentence of the section you are referring to states, "The FC may
invite other members as needed to meet its goals and responsibilities",
thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 3:48 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ayden,
>
> The last sentence of the section you are reffering to states, "The FC may
> invite other members as needed to meet face to faceas  "
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:58 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please note that section 2.6.1 of the NCSG Charter states:
>>
>> *NCSG?FC Composition.*
>> *The NCSG Finance Committee (FC) shall be comprised of one representative
>> from each Recognized Constituency. Each Candidate Constituency is entitled
>> to appoint an observer. The NCSG Chair will participate as an ex?officio
>> member of the NCSG?FC and will be included in consensus process and votes.*
>>
>> It is the decision of the NCUC and NPOC to determine who will be their
>> one observer, and, as such, the decision to appoint someone as an observer
>> is a decision outside of our remit.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 8:54 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Thato
>> Sure you traveled well to Kobe.
>>
>> Please let's continue to encourage Membership of FC. I think formal call
>> should come after Kobe to properly integrate all new members.
>> It should not be a piece meal.
>>
>> Yes I will try to join the meeting scheduled for 15:15hrs. Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>> Remmy Nweke
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 7:08 a.m. Thato Mfikwe <mfikwentjatje at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance
>>> committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the NCUC
>>> EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019
>>> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125>, please make needed
>>> decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please
>>> excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).
>>>
>>> @Remmy, please remember to join our session with NCSG EC
>>> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125> today, thanks in
>>> advance.
>>>
>>> @Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to
>>> present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <
>>> malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Thato:
>>>> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows
>>>> social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the
>>>> Finance Committee.
>>>> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I
>>>> hail from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first
>>>> ICANN meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG
>>>> and NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Malisa Richards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the
>>>> content of this email.
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Sun Mar 10 19:08:19 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 18:08:19 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Malisa Richards Interest in NCSG Finance Committee
In-Reply-To: <CA+p3fvS1e8r_-BrK+OUkr3G3oeDRaU72Act=NV=mg=dszJ_aCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRZJnoZ7TfDigW_6xCC3EfRj6g75Jisvywjn-ZxX+z0Rew0uQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+p3fvS1e8r_-BrK+OUkr3G3oeDRaU72Act=NV=mg=dszJ_aCw@mail.gmail.com>
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Sorry I couldn't enter the Adobe room due to connection error.
Regards
Remmy

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 7:08 a.m. Thato Mfikwe <mfikwentjatje at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Above is a member of NCUC interested in participating in NCSG finance
> committee as an observer or volunteer after a presentation made at the NCUC
> EC meeting on the 9th of March 2019
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125>, please make needed
> decision whether we intergrate them into the committee or not, and please
> excuse my secondary email (thato at sowug.org.za).
>
> @Remmy, please remember to join our session with NCSG EC
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/962125> today, thanks in advance.
>
> @Bruna, please let me know when (date and time) the FC is expected to
> present at NCUC contituency day, thanks in advance all :).
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Malisa Richards <
> malisarichards25.2008 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Thato:
>> Following up from our conversation this evening at the ICANN Fellows
>> social gathering, I?m writing to indicate my interest in joining the
>> Finance Committee.
>> Just a bit background info about me, my name is Malisa Richards and I
>> hail from Georgetown, Guyana. I?m an ICANN Fellowship Alumni. My first
>> ICANN meeting was ICANN58 in Copenhagen. Since then I?ve joined NCUC, NCSG
>> and NPOC. I?m currently a volunteer on the NCSG tech team.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Malisa Richards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent via iPhone Kindly excuse any typographical errors seen in the
>> content of this email.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Mar 12 23:01:06 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:01:06 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
Message-ID: <70734d10-dbf4-837b-f7d8-f968c1cfc995@mail.utoronto.ca>

What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.

Stephanie Perrin

NCSG Chair
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 01:33:53 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 00:33:53 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
In-Reply-To: <70734d10-dbf4-837b-f7d8-f968c1cfc995@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <70734d10-dbf4-837b-f7d8-f968c1cfc995@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <CAMc__opRXMiq+n4QU9Axk1CL7oKPaXdxJpZmNZcCjVh-jwNXiA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephanie
Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and
reshare.
Regards
____
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Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
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_________________________________________________________________
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not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen
> minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC
> and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is
> precious.
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> NCSG Chair
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 02:01:34 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 01:01:34 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary [Attn Stephanie]
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nt6Gi8faRj4OitUaseDij5J0-E=RFYGM3Wd98C7otr49A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7NsmOiGhDFT3wsH_vdeWjBhw_ONRKdieX19itaCRx0kk-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc__oovHR3V23GQVLyvOqiBLdg+OkJgZwuQMU6x+EQyo4C4Jw@mail.gmail.com>
 <451cb70a-6ca7-6e3d-3a3f-315d75eca556@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CAMc__opkSMfk_tH7LCAfXLiQzmefr9XSwQc-w8v0e9H_cYADMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkKEb1MsKFQeH_-z9BT76RkwpQkTj9BDwmDpcbMAqx9SQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7NtW1MrGe=fMetrRZcW0y5v7F-YjTqKbs_-vs7QSb_bGrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkrvLe1PHEGZ_OdnuU1stPh07ui1ALGGW_NpF=CHzkwFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nt3Dj18q3sN_cOHUpKGRLgb6dRw1ckgyGTmojz1Edi2Fg@mail.gmail.com>
 <0DC668FE-FB78-49A1-BE47-A4C35569A35A@icann.org>
 <CAGZi7Nt6Gi8faRj4OitUaseDij5J0-E=RFYGM3Wd98C7otr49A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc__opn=1pqihJ93HE53qTZfS-niHNgag3vnBWS666kRzT+vg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephanie
Below is for your attention.
Regards
RN

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>


Hi Maryam,

I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no
significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will
be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items.
Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will
also be given opportunity to speak.


*ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time)
<https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings?classes[]=Groups%3A%3AMeetings%3A%3AMeeting>*

*Proposed Meeting Agenda*

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)

c. Q & A (8 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
min)

e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)

g. Open floor (12 min)

h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
plan (5 min)

i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
internal capacity (5 min)

k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
wrote:

> Dear Thato, All,
>
>
>
> Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or
> are there changes to be made?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe
> <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Date: *Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
> *To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
>
>
>
> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>
> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with
> the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>
>
>
> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>
> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
> financial reporting )
>
>
>
> c. Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
> min)
>
> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the
> NCSG Charter and FC OP
>
>
>
> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>
>
>
> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>
> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
> priorities, needs and wants
>
>
>
> g. Open floor (15 min)
>
>
>
> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
> plan (5 min)
>
> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>
>
>
> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>
>
>
> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
> internal capacity (5 min)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
_______________________________________________
NCSG-FC mailing list
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https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 02:07:05 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 02:07:05 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary [Attn Stephanie]
In-Reply-To: <CAMc__opn=1pqihJ93HE53qTZfS-niHNgag3vnBWS666kRzT+vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7NsmOiGhDFT3wsH_vdeWjBhw_ONRKdieX19itaCRx0kk-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc__oovHR3V23GQVLyvOqiBLdg+OkJgZwuQMU6x+EQyo4C4Jw@mail.gmail.com>
 <451cb70a-6ca7-6e3d-3a3f-315d75eca556@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CAMc__opkSMfk_tH7LCAfXLiQzmefr9XSwQc-w8v0e9H_cYADMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkKEb1MsKFQeH_-z9BT76RkwpQkTj9BDwmDpcbMAqx9SQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7NtW1MrGe=fMetrRZcW0y5v7F-YjTqKbs_-vs7QSb_bGrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkrvLe1PHEGZ_OdnuU1stPh07ui1ALGGW_NpF=CHzkwFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nt3Dj18q3sN_cOHUpKGRLgb6dRw1ckgyGTmojz1Edi2Fg@mail.gmail.com>
 <0DC668FE-FB78-49A1-BE47-A4C35569A35A@icann.org>
 <CAGZi7Nt6Gi8faRj4OitUaseDij5J0-E=RFYGM3Wd98C7otr49A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc__opn=1pqihJ93HE53qTZfS-niHNgag3vnBWS666kRzT+vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGZi7NsNuFw1BE45+xa+oEHaNqAZV-eaKGY+Lr6iKP4++r1JUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Remmy,

The meeting is at 15:15 today,  I hope you will be able to join in, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 2:02 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephanie
> Below is for your attention.
> Regards
> RN
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
> To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
>
> Hi Maryam,
>
> I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no
> significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will
> be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items.
> Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will
> also be given opportunity to speak.
>
>
> *ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time)
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings?classes[]=Groups%3A%3AMeetings%3A%3AMeeting>*
>
> *Proposed Meeting Agenda*
>
> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>
> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>
> c. Q & A (8 min)
>
> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
> min)
>
> e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)
>
> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>
> g. Open floor (12 min)
>
> h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
> plan (5 min)
>
> i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)
>
> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
> internal capacity (5 min)
>
> k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Thato, All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64
>> or are there changes to be made?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>>
>> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>>
>> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato
>> Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Date: *Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
>> *To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
>>
>>
>>
>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and
>> with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>
>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>> financial reporting )
>>
>>
>>
>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
>> min)
>>
>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the
>> NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>
>>
>>
>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>> priorities, needs and wants
>>
>>
>>
>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>
>>
>>
>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
>> internal capacity (5 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Wed Mar 13 04:04:07 2019
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 02:04:07 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
In-Reply-To: <CAMc__opRXMiq+n4QU9Axk1CL7oKPaXdxJpZmNZcCjVh-jwNXiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <70734d10-dbf4-837b-f7d8-f968c1cfc995@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CAMc__opRXMiq+n4QU9Axk1CL7oKPaXdxJpZmNZcCjVh-jwNXiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0CRijM2WWFlYlIv7uH9AxpxWPb05fPW6bc827QHgdrIAXXgpS0-ZKp2T3dsP-ajnSMv6K7rtPlPJBCd3IKg2OJcxLUNKXJftRlO09_hpDNg=@ferdeline.com>

Dear all,

I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.

Proposed new agenda:

1. Updates to Statements of Interest
2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities

Kind regards,

Ayden F?rdeline

??????? Original Message ???????
On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephanie
> Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
> There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and reshare.
> Regards
> ____
> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
> Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]([DigitalSENSE Business News](http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews); [ITREALMS](http://www.itrealms.com.ng), [NaijaAgroNet](http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng))
> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: [@ITRealms](http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms)
> Author: [A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria](https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E)
>
> 2019 [Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable](http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng)
> JOIN us!!
>
> *Vice President, [African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS](http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/))
>
> [NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)](https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg)
> _________________________________________________________________
> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 04:15:00 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 02:15:00 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] Reminder: FC meeting at 15:15pm (Japan,
 Kobe local time)
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This meeting conflicts with many key pdps, notably RPMs and the RDAP implementation trial.  As i continue to underscore, working on policy is our primary job here.  I am ccing the EC in hopes some of them will be able to participate, I think I may have to go to the RDAP implementation trial which is in KICCs, the 10 minute walk place.  Sorry, not much we can do about this.

We need to do the Chair election process, because we technically do not have an FC Chair at the moment.  If I may suggest adding this to the agenda as the first item, we could ensure quorum and get that over with.

Stephanie

On 2019-03-12 20:20, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
Hi memebrs,

This is a friendly reminder that the NCSG FC will be holding its meeting today during ICANN64 with members, please join in so that we have much broader participation on this critical meeting which will be reviewing section 2.6 of the NCSG charter<https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/filefield_25801/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf> and paving a way forward on the Draft FC Operational Procedures<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xUEOsE5Ju4ZnmJKK3M43cHWltrElt1W5YPy2LOaT9r4/edit>, which relate to activitiies of the Finance Committee.

Please also share with members of NPOC, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.



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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 04:21:21 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 02:21:21 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary [Attn Stephanie]
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I would suggest we vote on the Chair as the first item of business.  We need to allow all members of the Finance Committee, including observers, a chance to speak.    I believe we have agreement that the Finance Committee at the moment, as a three person committee, is rather small.

May I suggest that you have already spoked for over 15 minutes in the NCUC meeting, and over 30 minutes in the NCSG meeting....lets try to have a conversation and avoid repetition.  As i have pointed out previously, the procedures are not ready for public discussion.  I would suggest you ask yourself what those procedures need to achieve, and open the floor for proposals.

Stephanie


On 2019-03-12 20:01, Remmy Nweke wrote:
Hi Stephanie
Below is for your attention.
Regards
RN

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From: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>>


Hi Maryam,

I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items. Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will also be given opportunity to speak.

ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time)<https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings?classes[]=Groups%3A%3AMeetings%3A%3AMeeting>

Proposed Meeting Agenda

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)

c. Q & A (8 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10 min)

e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)

g. Open floor (12 min)

h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising plan (5 min)

i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building internal capacity (5 min)

k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>> wrote:
Dear Thato, All,

Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64 or are there changes to be made?

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> on behalf of Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>>
Date: Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary

a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.

b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and financial reporting )

c. Q & A (10 min)

d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10 min)
Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the NCSG Charter and FC OP

e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)

f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their priorities, needs and wants

g. Open floor (15 min)

h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising plan (5 min)
Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG

i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)

j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building internal capacity (5 min)


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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 04:28:48 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 02:28:48 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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agendas are supposed to be added to the schedule on the meetings page, so that all individuals who wish to attend can know what is going on.

cheers SP

On 2019-03-12 19:33, Remmy Nweke wrote:
Hi Stephanie
Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and reshare.
Regards
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:

What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.

Stephanie Perrin

NCSG Chair

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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 05:14:30 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:14:30 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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Hi all,

I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the *Charter section
2.6* and input on what the FC should be focussing on.

I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after
ICANN64, furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election
process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations
of the charter?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:04 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.
>
> Proposed new agenda:
>
> 1. Updates to Statements of Interest
> 2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
> 3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie
> Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
> There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and
> reshare.
> Regards
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> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
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> JOIN us!!
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>
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> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and
>> fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the
>> NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time
>> is precious.
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>> NCSG Chair
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 06:27:31 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:27:31 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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Unfortunately we no longer have a chair once Ayden is appointed as the NCUC rep.  So we need to resolve this, your term was up a while ago and we should have held the NCUC process earlier.

It is easy enough to ask the non-members to leave the room and have a brief discussion among the members, that would be me, Ayden and Remmie.

Once that election is held, we open the room again and start with your agenda.  I have checked this with Robin and Amr who are our experts on procedures, and they are adamant on this.  Needs to be done.  I am ccing Amr and Robin, to verify that I have got this straight.

Thanks!

Stephanie

On 2019-03-12 23:14, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the Charter section 2.6 and input on what the FC should be focussing on.

I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after ICANN64, furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations of the charter?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:04 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.

Proposed new agenda:

1. Updates to Statements of Interest
2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities

Kind regards,

Ayden F?rdeline


??????? Original Message ???????
On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com<mailto:remmyn at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Stephanie
Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and reshare.
Regards
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:

What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.

Stephanie Perrin

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From robin at ipjustice.org  Wed Mar 13 06:31:26 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:31:26 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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Yes, Stephanie is correct.  Sorry I can?t attend the FC mtg today because it is scheduled at exactly the same time as the SubPro mtg and I?m a co-leader in that group, so must attend it.  We have to be sure that our currently appointed reps to the FC are running the mtg however, otherwise it lacks any legitimacy.

Thanks,
Robin

> On Mar 12, 2019, at 9:27 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately we no longer have a chair once Ayden is appointed as the NCUC rep.  So we need to resolve this, your term was up a while ago and we should have held the NCUC process earlier.  
> It is easy enough to ask the non-members to leave the room and have a brief discussion among the members, that would be me, Ayden and Remmie.
> 
> Once that election is held, we open the room again and start with your agenda.  I have checked this with Robin and Amr who are our experts on procedures, and they are adamant on this.  Needs to be done.  I am ccing Amr and Robin, to verify that I have got this straight.
> 
> Thanks!
> Stephanie
> On 2019-03-12 23:14, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the Charter section 2.6 and input on what the FC should be focussing on.
>> 
>> I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after ICANN64, furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations of the charter?
>> 
>> Thato Mfikwe.  
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:04 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.
>> 
>> Proposed new agenda:
>> 
>> 1. Updates to Statements of Interest
>> 2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
>> 3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Ayden F?rdeline 
>> 
>> 
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com <mailto:remmyn at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Stephanie
>>> Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
>>> There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and reshare.
>>> Regards
>>> ____
>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,  
>>> Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor, 
>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng/>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng/>)
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>>> 
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>>> JOIN us!!
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>> What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.
>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>> NCSG Chair
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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>> 
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From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca  Wed Mar 13 06:32:05 2019
From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:32:05 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Fwd: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Appointee to the Finance
 Committee
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reminder re why we need to have the election for Chair first and 
foremost on the agenda.

cheers Seph



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Subject: 	Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Appointee to the Finance Committee
Date: 	Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:45:09 -0500
From: 	Stephanie Perrin <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>
To: 	ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org



Congratulations to both, and many thanks to Thato for all his work 
during his term!? I do hope he will stay on as observer, we need more 
people on the Finance Committee.? Just a reminder that there will be a 
meeting of the FC in Kobe, and a half hour slot on the NCSG meeting 
agenda where I hope Thato can outline the work in progress.

Kind regards,

Stephanie Perrin

NCSG Chair

On 2019-03-01 07:34, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
> Congratulations Ayden.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:05 AM Shahul Hameed <shahul at computer.org 
> <mailto:shahul at computer.org>> wrote:
>
>     Congratulations Ayden, your in-depth experience on this topic
>     would be of great help.
>
>     Thanks to Thato as well for your commendable contributions.
>
>     Regards,
>     Shahul Hameed,
>     @Shahul_Hameed_ |? (+91) 9495379530
>
>
>     On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>     <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear NCUC,
>
>         On Feb 12th NCUC opened a Call for one Constituency appointee
>         to the Finance Committee. This call was closed on february
>         25th and the EC decided that the new appointee to the Finance
>         Committee is Ayden F?rdeline due to the candidate's
>         experience, commitment and thorough work in previous NCSG
>         comments regarding budgetary matters.
>
>         At the opportunity the EC also deliberated on appointing Thato
>         Mfikwe, previous Constituency appointee to the committee as an
>         observer to the FC in order to facilitate the transition and
>         just so Thato continues to contribute with the above mentioned
>         committee. Ayden's term will begin with ICANN 64.
>
>         Last but not least, we would like to congratulate Ayden and
>         thank Thato for the work performed in the past year.
>
>         Best,
>         -- 
>         */Bruna Martins dos Santos /*
>
>         Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>         @boomartins
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 06:35:04 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:35:04 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Fwd: Re:  Finance Committee meeting today
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forwarding for the record...

SP


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
Date:   Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:31:26 -0700
From:   Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org><mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
CC:     ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>


Yes, Stephanie is correct.  Sorry I can?t attend the FC mtg today because it is scheduled at exactly the same time as the SubPro mtg and I?m a co-leader in that group, so must attend it.  We have to be sure that our currently appointed reps to the FC are running the mtg however, otherwise it lacks any legitimacy.

Thanks,
Robin

On Mar 12, 2019, at 9:27 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:


Unfortunately we no longer have a chair once Ayden is appointed as the NCUC rep.  So we need to resolve this, your term was up a while ago and we should have held the NCUC process earlier.

It is easy enough to ask the non-members to leave the room and have a brief discussion among the members, that would be me, Ayden and Remmie.

Once that election is held, we open the room again and start with your agenda.  I have checked this with Robin and Amr who are our experts on procedures, and they are adamant on this.  Needs to be done.  I am ccing Amr and Robin, to verify that I have got this straight.

Thanks!

Stephanie

On 2019-03-12 23:14, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the Charter section 2.6 and input on what the FC should be focussing on.

I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after ICANN64, furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations of the charter?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:04 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.

Proposed new agenda:

1. Updates to Statements of Interest
2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities

Kind regards,

Ayden F?rdeline


??????? Original Message ???????
On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com<mailto:remmyn at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Stephanie
Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and reshare.
Regards
____
REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
(DigitalSENSE Business News<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS<http://www.itrealms.com.ng/>, NaijaAgroNet<http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng/>)
Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
<http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria<https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>

2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/>
JOIN us!!

*Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS<http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)

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_________________________________________________________________
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:

What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time is precious.

Stephanie Perrin

NCSG Chair

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Mar 13 06:54:51 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:54:51 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Fwd: Re:  Finance Committee meeting today
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Subject:        Re: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
Date:   Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:48:36 +0000
From:   Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
Reply-To:       Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
CC:     ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>, Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG><mailto:robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>


Hi,

I?m not sure I understand the question that is being asked of me, but have a few comments in-line below:

On Mar 13, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:


Unfortunately we no longer have a chair once Ayden is appointed as the NCUC rep.  So we need to resolve this, your term was up a while ago and we should have held the NCUC process earlier.

It is easy enough to ask the non-members to leave the room and have a brief discussion among the members, that would be me, Ayden and Remmie.


I?m not sure why non-members would be required to leave the room. There is nothing confidential being discussed.

Once that election is held, we open the room again and start with your agenda.  I have checked this with Robin and Amr who are our experts on procedures, and they are adamant on this.  Needs to be done.  I am ccing Amr and Robin, to verify that I have got this straight.


The three members (one from each of the NCSG constituencies, and the NCSG Chair acting as an ex-officio member) of the FC need to vote to elect the FC Chair.

More below?,

Thanks!

Stephanie

On 2019-03-12 23:14, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the Charter section 2.6 and input on what the FC should be focussing on.

I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after ICANN64,

Yes. I don?t seen any need for the FC to ever meet in person. All it?s work can be conducted on mailing lists and conference calls. If the election is going to take place here at ICANN64, nothing wrong with that either, assuming all 3 members are present.

furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations of the charter?

This is wrong. Observers don?t participate in FC Chair elections. Furthermore, we shouldn?t have any observers on the FC right now, since we have no candidate constituencies within the NCSG to appoint them. If there are observers on the FC right now, they should be removed.

However, the FC may invite additional members, should it reach rough consensus on the need to appoint additional member(s). This should be justified by demonstrating that it is necessary to achieve the committee?s goals and responsibilities.

Thanks.

Amr
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From aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja  Wed Mar 13 06:48:36 2019
From: aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 04:48:36 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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Hi,

I?m not sure I understand the question that is being asked of me, but have a few comments in-line below:

> On Mar 13, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately we no longer have a chair once Ayden is appointed as the NCUC rep.  So we need to resolve this, your term was up a while ago and we should have held the NCUC process earlier.
>
> It is easy enough to ask the non-members to leave the room and have a brief discussion among the members, that would be me, Ayden and Remmie.

I?m not sure why non-members would be required to leave the room. There is nothing confidential being discussed.

> Once that election is held, we open the room again and start with your agenda.  I have checked this with Robin and Amr who are our experts on procedures, and they are adamant on this.  Needs to be done.  I am ccing Amr and Robin, to verify that I have got this straight.

The three members (one from each of the NCSG constituencies, and the NCSG Chair acting as an ex-officio member) of the FC need to vote to elect the FC Chair.

More below?,

> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
>
> On 2019-03-12 23:14, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to kindly propose an open discussion on the Charter section 2.6 and input on what the FC should be focussing on.
>>
>> I think elections and discussion on SOI can take place anytime after ICANN64,

Yes. I don?t seen any need for the FC to ever meet in person. All it?s work can be conducted on mailing lists and conference calls. If the election is going to take place here at ICANN64, nothing wrong with that either, assuming all 3 members are present.

>> furthermore only memebrs and observers participate in the election process according to the charter or are we now not following stipulations of the charter?

This is wrong. Observers don?t participate in FC Chair elections. Furthermore, we shouldn?t have any observers on the FC right now, since we have no candidate constituencies within the NCSG to appoint them. If there are observers on the FC right now, they should be removed.

However, the FC may invite additional members, should it reach rough consensus on the need to appoint additional member(s). This should be justified by demonstrating that it is necessary to achieve the committee?s goals and responsibilities.

Thanks.

Amr
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 08:16:19 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:16:19 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary [Attn Stephanie]
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Good morning Stephanie and all

I hope this meets you well.

My response will be inline below.

I would suggest we vote on the Chair as the first item of business.  We
need to allow all members of the Finance Committee, including observers, a
chance to speak.    I believe we have agreement that the Finance Committee
at the moment, as a three person committee, is rather small.

*I must state here that this suggestion is absurd to and considering NCSG
Charter and I have not seen offices change prior to an ICANN meeting or in
the midst of it. I hope you are not being wrongly advised. Additionally,
observers anywhere does not got to vote and no one can change the charter
unilaterally.*

*I really do not want to believe there is a script being played or acted
here. Yes, Thato has been changed from the NCUC appointee and if my
information is right, his tenure ends at the end in Kobe not in middle ma.*


*I hope we are ready to work under your chair leadership. I will advise
that you take things easy as I am his vice and should assume office on his
retirement or replacement and not appointed by anyone outside the FC. we
have plans to increase FC membership soon after the Kobe and will need your
kind support.*

*The decision to cede the chairmanship of NCSG-FC was between the FC Reps
and not of NCUC entitlement or NCSG EC and at any event since he is being
replaced, it falls upon me as the next in command.*

*If you read my comments before Kobe and on appointment of Ayden, I had
welcomed him and was keen in working with him peacefully and with your
comments above, it negates that purpose. *

May I suggest that you have already spoked for over 15 minutes in the NCUC
meeting, and over 30 minutes in the NCSG meeting....lets try to have a
conversation and avoid repetition.  As i have pointed out previously, the
procedures are not ready for public discussion.  I would suggest you ask
yourself what those procedures need to achieve, and open the floor for
proposals.

*It may be true you have heard Thato (NCSG-FC) speak in more than one
occasion, may be in the last 24 hours, this particular session was not
meant for you alone but the community and I will highly advise that the
programme and agenda be allowed to run as planned except if there is any
other things amiss.*
____
REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:21 AM Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I would suggest we vote on the Chair as the first item of business.  We
> need to allow all members of the Finance Committee, including observers, a
> chance to speak.    I believe we have agreement that the Finance Committee
> at the moment, as a three person committee, is rather small.
>
> May I suggest that you have already spoked for over 15 minutes in the NCUC
> meeting, and over 30 minutes in the NCSG meeting....lets try to have a
> conversation and avoid repetition.  As i have pointed out previously, the
> procedures are not ready for public discussion.  I would suggest you ask
> yourself what those procedures need to achieve, and open the floor for
> proposals.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
> On 2019-03-12 20:01, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie
> Below is for your attention.
> Regards
> RN
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: ICANN64 Meeting plenary
> To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
>
> Hi Maryam,
>
> I would suggest we proceed with the agenda below since there are no
> significant changes proposed, the NCSG chair and constituency chairs will
> be given opportunity to speak during the Q&A or open floor agenda items.
> Other logistics will be finalised onsite, Remmy expected to be online, will
> also be given opportunity to speak.
>
>
> *ICANN 64 FC meeting (Wednesday, 13h30pm - local time)
> <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings?classes[]=Groups%3A%3AMeetings%3A%3AMeeting>
> *
>
> *Proposed Meeting Agenda*
>
> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>
> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>
> c. Q & A (8 min)
>
> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
> min)
>
> e. Open floor and inputs (12 min)
>
> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>
> g. Open floor (12 min)
>
> h.Fundraising and leveraging on ICANN finances - initiating a fundraising
> plan (5 min)
>
> i. Open floor and Q & A (8 min)
>
> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
> internal capacity (5 min)
>
> k. Closing remarks and way forward (5 min)
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Thato, All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please can you confirm if the agenda below remains the same for ICANN64
>> or are there changes to be made?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>>
>> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>>
>> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Thato
>> Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Date: *Friday, 22 February 2019 at 23:14
>> *To: *NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary
>>
>>
>>
>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and
>> with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>
>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>> financial reporting )
>>
>>
>>
>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview (10
>> min)
>>
>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between the
>> NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>
>>
>>
>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>> priorities, needs and wants
>>
>>
>>
>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>
>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>
>>
>>
>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
>> internal capacity (5 min)
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 08:19:56 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:19:56 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Fwd: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Appointee to the Finance
 Committee
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I have responded to call for chair election in your earlier mail on Agenda.
Its not necessary but tended to usurp things with bad precedents.
____
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:32 AM Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:

> reminder re why we need to have the election for Chair first and foremost
> on the agenda.
>
> cheers Seph
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Appointee to the Finance Committee
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:45:09 -0500
> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>
> <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca>
> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>
> Congratulations to both, and many thanks to Thato for all his work during
> his term!  I do hope he will stay on as observer, we need more people on
> the Finance Committee.  Just a reminder that there will be a meeting of the
> FC in Kobe, and a half hour slot on the NCSG meeting agenda where I hope
> Thato can outline the work in progress.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> NCSG Chair
> On 2019-03-01 07:34, Thato Mfikwe wrote:
>
> Congratulations Ayden.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:05 AM Shahul Hameed <shahul at computer.org> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Ayden, your in-depth experience on this topic would be of
>> great help.
>>
>> Thanks to Thato as well for your commendable contributions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shahul Hameed,
>> @Shahul_Hameed_ |  (+91) 9495379530
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:03 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear NCUC,
>>>
>>> On Feb 12th NCUC opened a Call for one Constituency appointee to the
>>> Finance Committee. This call was closed on february 25th and the EC decided
>>> that the new appointee to the Finance Committee is Ayden F?rdeline due to
>>> the candidate's experience, commitment and thorough work in previous NCSG
>>> comments regarding budgetary matters.
>>>
>>> At the opportunity the EC also deliberated on appointing Thato Mfikwe,
>>> previous Constituency appointee to the committee as an observer to the FC
>>> in order to facilitate the transition and just so Thato continues to
>>> contribute with the above mentioned committee. Ayden's term will begin with
>>> ICANN 64.
>>>
>>> Last but not least, we would like to congratulate Ayden and thank Thato
>>> for the work performed in the past year.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> @boomartins
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss
>>>
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>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 08:26:45 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:26:45 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Finance Committee meeting today
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Ayden
Thanks for your mail and proposal. I think it negates good conscious at the
day of the meeting to be asking for change in agenda. Moreover I have
already agreed on agenda that was shared before now and I did not see your
comment.
I hope its not intended to bring about confusion to how FC is run. Above
all its inimical to be asking for election of chairman when the duration of
the current chair has not elapsed. FYI Thato chair position elapses after
Kobe not during Kobe and you may better read the Charter and see my
response to Stephanie earlier on this.
Thanks
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:04 AM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I would like to propose a change to the agenda for today's meeting.
>
> Proposed new agenda:
>
> 1. Updates to Statements of Interest
> 2. Election of new Finance Committee chair
> 3. Discussion of 2019 Priorities
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:33 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie
> Hope you are enjoying Kobe.
> There was actually an agenda shared earlier. I will try to locate it and
> reshare.
> Regards
> ____
> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
> Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
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>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:01 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> What is the agenda for the FC meeting today?  There is an hour and
>> fifteen minutes to fill, and we rather exhausted the topic yesterday at the
>> NCUC and the NCSG meetings.  Please tell me what the plan is, folks.  Time
>> is precious.
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>> NCSG Chair
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Thu Mar 21 16:14:03 2019
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:14:03 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Our Next Meeting
Message-ID: <p5NiLZY72vhbxb68929KX2u9oBqASffIs64xFC7PDzeXADM7YhTy-vs4E0lbDeF64Z6mG0kNP_Z8EZ9H0921Pp-bHOo2R59uvhwXLdFMQLw=@ferdeline.com>

Dear all,

To those who were in Kobe, I trust you have now arrived home safely.

The next meeting of the NCSG Finance Committee will take place in mid-April.

I will be circulating a Doodle poll in early April so that we can agree on a mutually suitable date and time for this meeting.

I will also be extending an invitation to the NCSG Executive Committee plus, on an exceptional basis, our charter drafters, so that they can hopefully attend and offer us some input and direction on what operating procedures we need to develop and what they envisioned our charter entailing.

But, more about that later. I will keep you updated.

Best wishes,

Ayden
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 16:55:32 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:55:32 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Our Next Meeting
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Seen thanks

On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, 3:14 p.m. Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> To those who were in Kobe, I trust you have now arrived home safely.
>
> The next meeting of the NCSG Finance Committee will take place in
> mid-April.
>
> I will be circulating a Doodle poll in early April so that we can agree on
> a mutually suitable date and time for this meeting.
>
> I will also be extending an invitation to the NCSG Executive Committee
> plus, on an exceptional basis, our charter drafters, so that they can
> hopefully attend and offer us some input and direction on what operating
> procedures we need to develop and what they envisioned our charter
> entailing.
>
> But, more about that later. I will keep you updated.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
> _______________________________________________
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 21:36:49 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:36:49 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Our Next Meeting
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Noted. Thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Thursday, March 21, 2019, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Seen thanks
>
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, 3:14 p.m. Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> To those who were in Kobe, I trust you have now arrived home safely.
>>
>> The next meeting of the NCSG Finance Committee will take place in
>> mid-April.
>>
>> I will be circulating a Doodle poll in early April so that we can agree
>> on a mutually suitable date and time for this meeting.
>>
>> I will also be extending an invitation to the NCSG Executive Committee
>> plus, on an exceptional basis, our charter drafters, so that they can
>> hopefully attend and offer us some input and direction on what operating
>> procedures we need to develop and what they envisioned our charter
>> entailing.
>>
>> But, more about that later. I will keep you updated.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Mon Mar 25 14:37:53 2019
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:37:53 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Report of Public Comments - FY20 Budget
Message-ID: <yIeQXvdxPEQ0yOT00dSbk3BId0IwMvoWENrICCyYtnH3QDIJ6iuvbgyN7KpFqoq47lqSP1nVliCSqxH4U2XgiCCFKOe8WL2C2CM-Uc1HY8Y=@ferdeline.com>

Dear all,

Please be aware that ICANN Org has posted the report of public comments on the proposed FY20 Budget and Operating Plan:

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/report-comments-fy20-budget-22mar19-en.pdf

Best wishes,

Ayden F?rdeline
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 17:31:32 2019
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:31:32 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Report of Public Comments - FY20 Budget
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Thanks for sharing.
Will go through and share document later if any.
Regards
Remmy

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 1:38 p.m. Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Please be aware that ICANN Org has posted the report of public comments on
> the proposed FY20 Budget and Operating Plan:
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/report-comments-fy20-budget-22mar19-en.pdf
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
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