[NCSG-FC] NCSG Additional Budget Request (ABR) Form - Invitation to edit

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Sat Jan 12 18:26:36 EET 2019

Dear Remmy,

I do agree that the FC has to work together with the Leadership teams in
both constituencies and I mentioned to Thato in a call we had this week
that NCUC EC is here to support him in all possible ways. But just so we
can work together, I believe that communication is key - that meaning we
could have a closer conversation between the FC, the NCUC EC and the

At the same time, Remmy, I hope I am misinterpretating
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=misinterpretating> your
email as I did not appreciate the tone of it, as well as your attempt to
challenge a decision taken by the NCUC Executive Committee.  As explained,
we very much appreciate the FC work and do want to work together to the
committee, but we did not find it feasible to adopt the proposed form given
that the ABRs deadline is coming in less than 3 days. By adopting the
proposed form now we would have to have an extra amount of work in reading
through the suggestions, selecting which ones we are submitting and then
starting to draft the actual ABR form. Today is the 12th of January and the
deadline for ABRs submission, as you may know, is the 15th - therefore the
FC suggestion was not adopted this year in order to avoid adding another
layer of work in the ABRs submission when we really dont have time for

With regards to your comment on transparency, you might have seen my email
to the NCUC list asking for ABRs suggestions and volunteers to draft it.
While I think this is something that the FC could be onboard I am not going
to take the time to ask why neither of you volunteered to draft anything or
sent us any suggestion yet, because I do think we have to work together and
I dont believe that picking fights with each other will help us achieving
anything here. But, Remmy, as soon as NCUC submits its ABRs, they will be
shared on the list - I might even be able to do it before the deadline just
so we have time for corrections and community comments. I do believe that
the deadline is not ideal, but we are all volunteers here and I am working
with and how I can, and I do believe that the FC is doing the same.

Having said that, can we count with any of the FC members help in drafting
ABRs ?


Em sáb, 12 de jan de 2019 às 07:40, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Thanks Bruna
> Giving the foregoing and latent position of NCUC to an attempt to enhance
> process, I think it's important for FC representatives to be included in
> their constituency Excom to enable them work in line and in alignment with
> the C's rather than across purposes.
> For instance, there is no clear reason for the non adoption or comment to
> improve it which was initiated due to the call by NCSG chair, and to help
> in collation of ABR afterwards, thus the NCUC decline is already counter
> productive to transparency and accountability effort by FC.
> But take it that FC reps are part of Excom it will afford FC to have
> sufficient background to the decline and come up with more acceptable
> concept.
> In fact it seems we have three C's - NPOC, NCUC and FC under NCSG.
> Until we revisit this honestly not much progress will be made as we
> continue to fall short of ICANN processes of genuine transparency and
> accountability in our folds.
> Happy weekend everyone as we ponder.
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 7:44 p.m. Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> NCUC EC Discussed it on our call yesterday and we decided that adopting
>> the form is not an optimal solution for now.
>> Although we very much appreciate the FC work and the idea of coming up
>> with a mechanism to make our lives easier, in light of the short timeframe
>> NCUC might not be able to adopt it now. Hopefully we will have the chance
>> to enhance the proposed form for next year's ABRs process, and with the
>> appropriate timeframe.
>> Thank you very much.
>> best,
>> Bruna
>> Em sex, 11 de jan de 2019 às 10:56, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just a friendly reminder that the ABR form need to be circulated today,
>>> please make your input since we have very limited time to meet the deadline.
>>> Should there be no comments by 10pm UTC, Iit will be considered and
>>> taken that everyone is okay with the structure and extend of data
>>> collected, thanks.
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2019, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Good day
>>>> This is the draft template for the ABR to help us coordinate the
>>>> process.
>>>> Kindly review and let's have your comments before it's shared on NCSG
>>>> list on or before Friday.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Remmy Nweke (via Google Forms) <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019, 5:27 p.m.
>>>> Subject: NCSG Additional Budget Request (ABR) Form - Invitation to edit
>>>> To: <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>> Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> has invited you to *edit* the following
>>>> form:
>>>> NCSG Additional Budget Request (ABR) Form
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YV0dz666KqgF1Hhudno-S4045Y7c1-X0ktVwrwEa_zQ/edit?usp=sharing_eil&ts=5c34cf75>
>>>> Open in Forms
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