[NCSG-FC] ICANN64 Meeting plenary

Sat Feb 23 00:26:39 EET 2019

Hi Rafik,

In regard to ICANN finance, you will note that with declined ABRs in
previuos FYs, there was room for improvement and further engagement of
various ICANN teams like the communication, GSE and in order to obtain
access to support requested as opposed to fund allocations themselves. For
the FC, it would be benefitial to understand this process.

It would laso be interesting to find out how budgets accomodate community
activities and how communities can play a role in realising ICANN strategic
objectives, or instance:
- Strengthen the inclusivity and openness of ICANN’s multistakeholder model
by improving and sustaining diverse representation and active, effective
participation and collaboration with GSE on outreach efforts and in local
and regional IGFs

The main reason for inviting ICANN finance was centered around finding the
best way to ensure that NCSG and constituencies are adequately supported,
as stated in the NCSG charter, as this is never clear when ICANN budgets
and plans are published.

I am not expecting ICANN to manage our bank account but provide advice on
how this can be best managed and remmber that the FC activities must adhere
to ICANN bylaws, so if there are deviations, we need to be made aware of
such or ensure adherence.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:10 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> ICANN Finance doesn't get involved on SG/C finance and refuse to manage
> bank accounts (in particular for those collecting membership fees) on their
> behalf for liability reasons.
>
> when ICANN give any in-kind or financial support, it already control the
> whole process i.e. procurement, hiring external resources, travel
> arrangement etc. In other cases like for membership system, it ask SG/C to
> pay first then it reimburse. As organization, it mitigates risks and
> doesn't let community to be involved on the process other making request
> through ABRs etc. it is the same for PDP WGs ( I am aware of as I am
> involved for EPDP)
>
> ICANN Finance team looks usually to discuss about ICANN budget and
> operating plan not about internal finance of SG/C.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le ven. 22 févr. 2019 à 10:34, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Sorry Stephanie to come in here.
>> Others may choose to ignore it but I think there is a role based on our
>> NCSG charter guidelines especially on report back on how money or funds
>> given to stakeholders group or received from all sources are expended.
>> In financial management it's usually a precondition for another round of
>> support which I think ICANN.org is not strict about otherwise they should
>> be making the demands.
>> May be because there are individual reports very often and I know Maryam
>> team emphasis on this too as precondition.
>> Regards
>> Remmy
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 1:01 a.m. Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca wrote:
>>
>>> Have you inquired of other Stakeholder Groups, how they handle their
>>> finances?  What role does ICANN play?
>>>
>>> I would suspect none.  It is not their place.
>>>
>>> Stephanie
>>> On 2019-02-21 18:47, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Thato
>>> It should have been very helpful If I was to be there to assist in some
>>> physically.
>>>
>>> However, there will be need for online participation.
>>>
>>> There is need also to have an ICANN staff preferably from Finance speak
>>> to some of the issues, especially in responsibility and expectations from
>>> an FC.
>>>
>>> Equally a few minutes remarks by NCSG chair will not be out of place as
>>> well as Cs chair. May be NCSG 3minutes, C chairs 2minutes each. They will
>>> still speak to issues as intervention arises.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
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>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> *1. This is final call for iput on the ICANN64 FC meeting agenda (90
>>>> minutes), please make your input so that I can circulate in the mailing
>>>> list by Monday 25 February for community input.*
>>>>
>>>> Proposed Agenda
>>>> a. Introduction and background on the Finance Committee (5 min)
>>>> Justification: This will ensure participants are on the same page and
>>>> with the same understanding as the meeting progresses.
>>>>
>>>> b. Overview of the NCSG Charter and the Draft FC OP (10 min)
>>>> Justification: Review of the Charter and OP contention areas
>>>> (responsibilities, the accounting, auditing and providing  oversight
>>>> function, bank account and incopropration implications or use of
>>>> constituency bank accounts (SPV), how the FC works with constituencies and
>>>> financial reporting )
>>>>
>>>> c. Q & A (10 min)
>>>>
>>>> d. Harmonising of the OP with the NCSG Charter based on the overview
>>>> (10 min)
>>>> Justification: Obtaining community input and building synergy between
>>>> the NCSG Charter and FC OP
>>>>
>>>> e. Open floor and inputs (15 min)
>>>>
>>>> f. NCSG priorities, needs and wants - planning forward (5 min)
>>>> Justification: Collection of ideas from members regarding their
>>>> priorities, needs and wants
>>>>
>>>> g. Open floor (15 min)
>>>>
>>>> h.Fundraising and levelraging on ICANN finances - initiating a
>>>> fundraising plan (5 min)
>>>> Justification: Exploring different avenue for fundraising for NCSG
>>>>
>>>> i. Open floor and Q & A (10 min)
>>>>
>>>> j. Call for volunteers for different focus areas and closure - building
>>>> internal capacity (5 min)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *2. Should the be an oversight somewhere, please make recommendation. *
>>>>
>>>> *3. Please also make input in terms of resource people who will be
>>>> needed to ease proceedings of this meeting and can also provide answers. I
>>>> still maintain that we need ICANN finance, so that we are able to discuss
>>>> ways on how the FC can leverage on ICANN finances and improve on the ABR
>>>> submission process.*
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
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