From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 17:15:44 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:15:44 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
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Hi Thato
Did you carry this out?Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment







On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com  wrote:
Hi all,
1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the draft
OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can push to
submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.2. Remmy or Farzi,
please start integration changes and comments on the OP Draft document so that
we can prepare for submission to the EC by November 2018, and remember to close
comment from the community
3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in order to
finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please kindly
see my input inline below, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Answers in line Remmy
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi FarzanehThanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour. 1. 
    Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting,
    automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
 2. 
    Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
    invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh
    disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an
    observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)  I am also in line with
    Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic observer for
    chair for PC.

The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority view
(1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is good for
enhancing synergy and coordination amongst? committees and constituencies,
provided that the FC chair will also receive observer status on the NCG PC (what
are you thoughts on this, because at some point the FC and the PC need t see eye
to eye and this process will create that desired platform).

Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I think
the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs involvement
with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are specifically against
pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide your reasons? 1. 
 2. 2.6 of
    charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure
    (accepted_
 3. 
    Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
    committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
 4. Remove
    section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie
    and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a
    good position to work together on this. (Considering the difficulty of
    managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG including the
    issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its going to be a
    hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if Special Purpose
    Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)

I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level, there might
be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the bank account (NCUC
chair would be of help in this instance).

Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean others won't
think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account. 1. 
 2. Thato to review?
    3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword
    then provide to NCSG FC to comment
 3. ABR submission/ A
    lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc
 4. Thato?discussed how
    to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a
    need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.

Farzi, please list those suggestions 
 1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
    Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
    sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
    in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
    or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
    decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
    not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision is
    taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should suffice
    and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided house. IMO.
    We can disagree to agree eventually.

Again minority views will also be recorded.  
You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did not want
to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require FC be in ICANN
meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the opportunity arises enables
FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I would like to tell NCSG EC that I
don't agree with these provisions that you have passed and that it was not a
consensus decision. I have discussed this many many times and I have no desire
to continue and I find it quite amusing that you first don't want to come to a
compromise and consensus ?and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge
of creating resources for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on
resources.
Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
 1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting,
    automatically a member of FC according to the charter
 2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
    invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh
    disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an
    observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
 3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
    Procedure (accepted_
 4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
    committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
 5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan,
    Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie
    are in a good position to work together on this.
 6. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and
    remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
 7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation
    etc
 8. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh
    disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he
    can approach the issue.
 9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
    Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent

Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.

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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 20:32:16 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:32:16 +0200
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Hi Farzaneh,

Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the
current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should
have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency
affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also
removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Thato
>
> Did you carry this out? Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) -
> review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to
> comment
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> 1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the
>> draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can
>> push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
>> 2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the
>> OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by
>> November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
>> 3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in
>> order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
>> 4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please
>> kindly see my input inline below, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Answers in line Remmy
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Farzaneh
>> Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
>>
>>    1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
>>    meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
>>    2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
>>    be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
>>    Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
>>    become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am
>>    also in line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on
>>    automatic observer for chair for PC.
>>
>> *The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority
>> view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is
>> good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst  committees and
>> constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer
>> status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point
>> the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that
>> desired platform).*
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I
>> think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs
>> involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are
>> specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide
>> your reasons?
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>    2. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee
>>    Operating Procedure (accepted_
>>    3. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
>>    finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>>    4. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
>>    (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
>>    Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering
>>    the difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG
>>    including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its
>>    going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if
>>    Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
>>
>> I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level,
>> there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the
>> bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).
>>
>>
>> Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean
>> others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>    2. Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
>>    oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>>    3. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
>>    consultation etc
>>    4. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
>>    Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
>>    how he can approach the issue.
>>
>> *Farzi, please list those suggestions *
>>
>>
>>    1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since
>>    Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
>>    sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
>>    in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
>>    or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
>>    decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
>>    not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision
>>    is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should
>>    suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided
>>    house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
>>
>> *Again minority views will also be recorded.*
>>
>> You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did
>> not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require
>> FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the
>> opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I
>> would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that
>> you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed
>> this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite
>> amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus
>>  and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources
>> for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.
>>
>> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks again, great work.
>> ____
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>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
>>    meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
>>    2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
>>    be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
>>    Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
>>    become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
>>    3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee
>>    Operating Procedure (accepted_
>>    4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
>>    finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>>    5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
>>    (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
>>    Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
>>    6. Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
>>    oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>>    7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
>>    consultation etc
>>    8. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
>>    Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
>>    how he can approach the issue.
>>    9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since
>>    Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent
>>
>> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
>> not.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
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>>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 23:09:04 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:09:04 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
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Thato
I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on
constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language that is
better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I suggest
removing the constituencies and add to? 3(VI)
NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might provide
advice for management of constituencies funds. 
If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and itemize
the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to send it to NCSG
EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone, then by all means do
so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them to NCSG EC and the chair. 








On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com  wrote:
Hi Farzaneh,
Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the current
version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should have some level
of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency affairs, for me, the
current statement/section is good enough. I also removed the management notion
in regard to constituency expenditure.
:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thato
Did you carry this out?Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment







On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com  wrote:
Hi all,
1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the draft
OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can push to
submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.2. Remmy or Farzi,
please start integration changes and comments on the OP Draft document so that
we can prepare for submission to the EC by November 2018, and remember to close
comment from the community
3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in order to
finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please kindly
see my input inline below, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Answers in line Remmy
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi FarzanehThanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour. 1. 
    Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting,
    automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
 2. 
    Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
    invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh
    disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an
    observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)  I am also in line with
    Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic observer for
    chair for PC.

The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority view
(1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is good for
enhancing synergy and coordination amongst? committees and constituencies,
provided that the FC chair will also receive observer status on the NCG PC (what
are you thoughts on this, because at some point the FC and the PC need t see eye
to eye and this process will create that desired platform).

Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I think
the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs involvement
with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are specifically against
pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide your reasons? 1. 
 2. 2.6 of
    charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure
    (accepted_
 3. 
    Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
    committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
 4. Remove
    section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie
    and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a
    good position to work together on this. (Considering the difficulty of
    managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG including the
    issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its going to be a
    hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if Special Purpose
    Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)

I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level, there might
be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the bank account (NCUC
chair would be of help in this instance).

Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean others won't
think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account. 1. 
 2. Thato to review?
    3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword
    then provide to NCSG FC to comment
 3. ABR submission/ A
    lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc
 4. Thato?discussed how
    to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a
    need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.

Farzi, please list those suggestions 
 1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
    Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
    sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
    in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
    or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
    decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
    not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision is
    taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should suffice
    and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided house. IMO.
    We can disagree to agree eventually.

Again minority views will also be recorded.  
You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did not want
to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require FC be in ICANN
meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the opportunity arises enables
FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I would like to tell NCSG EC that I
don't agree with these provisions that you have passed and that it was not a
consensus decision. I have discussed this many many times and I have no desire
to continue and I find it quite amusing that you first don't want to come to a
compromise and consensus ?and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge
of creating resources for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on
resources.
Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
 1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting,
    automatically a member of FC according to the charter
 2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
    invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh
    disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an
    observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
 3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
    Procedure (accepted_
 4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
    committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
 5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan,
    Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie
    are in a good position to work together on this.
 6. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and
    remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
 7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation
    etc
 8. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh
    disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he
    can approach the issue.
 9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
    Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent

Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.

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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 23:21:32 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:21:32 -0300
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Dear all,

I am afraid I did not agree with or suggested any language regarding the FC
having oversight on constituencies, as I cannot speak on behalf of NCUC and
dont think our constituency would agree with. What I believe my comment was
suggesting was to set a definition and trace limits to such oversight and
maybe even starting a conversation with the broader community.

Best,
Bruna

Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 ?s 17:09, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Thato
>
> I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on
> constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language
> that is better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I
> suggest removing the constituencies and add to  3(VI)
>
> *NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might
> provide advice for management of constituencies funds. *
>
> *If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and
> itemize the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to
> send it to NCSG EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone,
> then by all means do so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them
> to NCSG EC and the chair. *
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>
>> Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the
>> current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should
>> have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency
>> affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also
>> removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
>> :
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Thato
>>
>> Did you carry this out? Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) -
>> review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to
>> comment
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> 1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the
>> draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can
>> push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
>> 2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the
>> OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by
>> November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
>> 3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in
>> order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
>> 4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please
>> kindly see my input inline below, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Answers in line Remmy
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Farzaneh
>> Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
>>
>>    1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
>>    meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
>>    2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
>>    be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
>>    Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
>>    become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am
>>    also in line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on
>>    automatic observer for chair for PC.
>>
>> *The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority
>> view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is
>> good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst  committees and
>> constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer
>> status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point
>> the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that
>> desired platform).*
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I
>> think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs
>> involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are
>> specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide
>> your reasons?
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>    2. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee
>>    Operating Procedure (accepted_
>>    3. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
>>    finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>>    4. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
>>    (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
>>    Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering
>>    the difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG
>>    including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its
>>    going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if
>>    Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
>>
>> I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level,
>> there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the
>> bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).
>>
>>
>> Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean
>> others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>    2. Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
>>    oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>>    3. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
>>    consultation etc
>>    4. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
>>    Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
>>    how he can approach the issue.
>>
>> *Farzi, please list those suggestions *
>>
>>
>>    1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since
>>    Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
>>    sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
>>    in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
>>    or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
>>    decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
>>    not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision
>>    is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should
>>    suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided
>>    house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
>>
>> *Again minority views will also be recorded.*
>>
>> You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did
>> not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require
>> FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the
>> opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I
>> would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that
>> you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed
>> this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite
>> amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus
>>  and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources
>> for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.
>>
>> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks again, great work.
>> ____
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>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
>>    meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
>>    2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
>>    be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
>>    Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
>>    become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
>>    3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee
>>    Operating Procedure (accepted_
>>    4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
>>    finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>>    5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
>>    (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
>>    Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
>>    6. Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the
>>    oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>>    7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
>>    consultation etc
>>    8. Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
>>    Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
>>    how he can approach the issue.
>>    9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since
>>    Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent
>>
>> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
>> not.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
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>>
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>>
>>
>
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 01:15:51 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:15:51 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
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Hi Farzi,

I said they edited and not commented on the document and I agree with the current language but you may change the term ?oversight? to a better term as opposed to changing the intention of the clauses themselves. Check carefully who made edits.

Thato Mfikwe.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bruna Martins dos Santos
Sent: Monday, 01 October 2018 22:21
To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is
Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting

Dear all,?

I am afraid I did not agree with or suggested any language regarding the?FC having oversight on constituencies, as I cannot speak on behalf of NCUC and dont think our constituency would agree with. What I believe my comment was suggesting was to set a definition and trace limits to such oversight and maybe even starting a conversation with the broader community.?

Best,?
Bruna?

Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 ?s 17:09, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> escreveu:
Thato?

I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language that is better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I suggest removing the constituencies and add to? 3(VI)

NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might provide advice for management of constituencies funds. 

If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and itemize the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to send it to NCSG EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone, then by all means do so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them to NCSG EC and the chair. 





On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
Hi Farzaneh,

Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thato

Did you carry this out??Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?




On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please kindly see my input inline below, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Answers in line Remmy?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Farzaneh
Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am also in line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic observer for chair for PC.
The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst? committees and constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that desired platform).

?
Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide your reasons?
1. 
2. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure (accepted_
3. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list?
4. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering the difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level, there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).


Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
1. 
2. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?
3. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc?
4. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.
Farzi, please list those suggestions 
1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
Again minority views will also be recorded.

You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus ?and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.

Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.?

Thanks again, great work.
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure (accepted_
4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list?
5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
6. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?
7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc?
8. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.
9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent?
Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.?


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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 01:18:26 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:18:26 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
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Hi Farzi,

I said they edited and not commented on the document and I agree with the current language but you may change the term ?oversight? to a better term as opposed to changing the intention of the clauses themselves. Check carefully who made edits.

Thato Mfikwe.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bruna Martins dos Santos
Sent: Monday, 01 October 2018 22:21
To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is
Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting

Dear all,?

I am afraid I did not agree with or suggested any language regarding the?FC having oversight on constituencies, as I cannot speak on behalf of NCUC and dont think our constituency would agree with. What I believe my comment was suggesting was to set a definition and trace limits to such oversight and maybe even starting a conversation with the broader community.?

Best,?
Bruna?

Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 ?s 17:09, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> escreveu:
Thato?

I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language that is better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I suggest removing the constituencies and add to? 3(VI)

NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might provide advice for management of constituencies funds. 

If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and itemize the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to send it to NCSG EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone, then by all means do so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them to NCSG EC and the chair. 





On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
Hi Farzaneh,

Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thato

Did you carry this out??Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?




On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please kindly see my input inline below, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
Answers in line Remmy?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Farzaneh
Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am also in line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic observer for chair for PC.
The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst? committees and constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that desired platform).

?
Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide your reasons?
1. 
2. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure (accepted_
3. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list?
4. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering the difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level, there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).


Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
1. 
2. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?
3. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc?
4. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.
Farzi, please list those suggestions 
1. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
Again minority views will also be recorded.

You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus ?and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.

Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.?

Thanks again, great work.
____
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Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,?
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(DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
1. Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
2. Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/ Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
3. 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating Procedure (accepted_
4. Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list?
5. Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
6. Thato to review? 3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment?
7. ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members consultation etc?
8. Thato?discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he can approach the issue.
9. The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent?
Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have not.?


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From remmyn at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 05:49:03 2018
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
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Hi all
Hope we are all good.
I am greatly concerned that some of us are still trying to mislead this
committee by interpreting the Charter and FC functions as if they are
setting up an adhoc committee. Hence, I decided to share an extract from
the charter on whether 'oversight' is part of the role of FC or not and
even some suggestion on FC intervention to be on demand from
Constituencies. I wish to state that that was not the simple interpretation
of the charter which was written in simple English. So, I wonder where the
difficulty is coming from.

And here is the extract defining FC for our information:

"NCSG Finance Committee (NCSG-??FC): The NCSG Finance Committee is
responsible for establishing a firm financial footing for the NCSG and
administering NCSG funds within a defined framework that meets relevant
legal requirements as well as requirements imposed by ICANN.

The NCSG-??FC?s responsibilities include fund raising, setting voluntary
contribution levels for members, *determining procedures for the
distribution of funds, and for monitoring the utilization of funds.*

The NCSG-??FC will also be responsible for the Treasurer function.
Formation of the NCSG-??FC, its composition, and duties within the
NCSG-??FC are set out in Section 2.6."

Therefore, I would like to ask, when a given entity is "determining
procedures for the distribution of funds, and for monitoring the
utilization of funds." What is the closest phrase to that than 'oversight'
which must be done with human face. This was the same argument that brought
about the insertion of the Section 2.6 into the Operating Procedure to make
it clearer and some of us went on to tweak it further in the name of
wording.

I have explained the issue of bank severally, I do not have another option,
except if those rejecting the idea of SPV can come up with one. SPV will
save us the trouble of registering yet another entity and search for the
trustees and management team outside our leaders as most of us are not in
US.

What matters to me is transparency and understanding. Yes, we may have that
relatively now, what happens when people who have a wide gap of the
understanding assumes our current leadership positions. We must be
futuristic and think stability of NCSG in general.

Lastly, like I had suggested in the past, with the ambiguity in manner of
interpretation of charter to our caprices, it will be better to review the
charter afresh now that some of the clauses we put their are getting
clearer or complicated as some will choose to claim.

*@thatomfikwe *

I saw the note that myself and Farz resolve some issues on Operating
Procedure, that will not work frankly speaking except we make out time for
a meeting and take them from page 1 to end and resolve them as a
team/meeting procedure allows. That is where we cant agree, a vote can be
taken and we progress. We can have one or two meetings before Farz leaves,
so it does not sound like someone is waiting for her exit to progress.

So, I will suggest you call for a meeting after affecting the corrections
you elect to do before now. Starting with doodle will be good.

Also, like I pointed out before now, until we recognise the fact that FC is
a statutory Committee in NCSG, and accord it full compliment and support,
rather than placing it like a subcommittee; we may continue the
merry-go-round.

Best of the day
Remmy Nweke
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:19 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Farzi,
>
>
>
> I said they edited and not commented on the document and I agree with the
current language but you may change the term ?oversight? to a better term
as opposed to changing the intention of the clauses themselves. Check
carefully who made edits.
>
>
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos
> Sent: Monday, 01 October 2018 22:21
> To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I am afraid I did not agree with or suggested any language regarding the
FC having oversight on constituencies, as I cannot speak on behalf of NCUC
and dont think our constituency would agree with. What I believe my comment
was suggesting was to set a definition and trace limits to such oversight
and maybe even starting a conversation with the broader community.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bruna
>
>
>
> Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 ?s 17:09, farzaneh badii <
farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Thato
>
>
>
> I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on
constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language
that is better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I
suggest removing the constituencies and add to  3(VI)
>
>
>
> NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might
provide advice for management of constituencies funds.
>
> I do not agree on this as it leave so FC venerable on what to do and what
what not to do and dedicat
>
> If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and
itemize the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to
send it to NCSG EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone,
then by all means do so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them
to NCSG EC and the chair.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Farzaneh,
>
>
>
> Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the
current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should
have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency
affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also
removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
>
> :
>
>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Thato
>
>
>
> Did you carry this out? Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) -
review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to
comment
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> 1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the
draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can
push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
>
> 2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the
OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by
November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
>
> 3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in
order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
>
> 4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please
kindly see my input inline below, thanks.
>
>
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Answers in line Remmy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Farzaneh
>
> Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
>
> 1.   Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
>
> 2.   Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am also in
line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic
observer for chair for PC.
>
> The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority
view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is
good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst  committees and
constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer
status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point
the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that
desired platform).
>
>
>
>
>
> Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I
think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs
involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are
specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide
your reasons?
>
> 1.
>
> 2.   2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
Procedure (accepted_
>
> 3.   Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>
> 4.   Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
(Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering the
difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG
including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its
going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if
Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
>
> I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level,
there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the
bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).
>
>
>
>
>
> Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean
others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
>
> 1.
>
> 2.   Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight
and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>
> 3.   ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
consultation etc
>
> 4.   Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
how he can approach the issue.
>
> Farzi, please list those suggestions
>
> 1.   The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato
and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision
is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should
suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided
house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
>
> Again minority views will also be recorded.
>
>
>
> You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did
not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require
FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the
opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I
would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that
you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed
this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite
amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus
 and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources
for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.
>
>
>
> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
not.
>
>
>
> Thanks again, great work.
>
> ____
>
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> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
>
> Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
>
> 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
Procedure (accepted_
>
> Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
>
> Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan,
Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
>
> Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and
remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
>
> ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
consultation etc
>
> Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh
disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he
can approach the issue.
>
> The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent
>
> Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
not.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 23:42:02 -0400
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I think thatos resolution is a good one. Let this be resolved during
Stephanie's term if it can be despite my attempts to resolve them before
her arrival it unfortunately seems to be impossible. Discussions  been far
too offensive to me and the committees knowledge about NCSG and how it
 functions and the independence of constituencies is poor  but at the same
time opinionated. A very bad combination. this FC is supposed to be
carrying out crucial functions such as ABRS, fundraising, etc for NCSG and
help us with building our capacity to do policy. Non of which has been done
during this term  and it won't be done when the committee itself doesn't
have a basic understanding of what NCSG does and how it has functioned in
the past to decide about the future and how independence of constitluencies
has to be preserved. I rest my case but I have to say when I step down as
the chair I will closely monitor this FC since it has a tendency to ignore
NCSG members opinions and comments.

I will still pay NCSG civicrm out of my pocket and get reimbursed by Icann
and hope that Stephanie comes up with a plan for NCSG bank account so that
I don't have to continue doing this thankless job.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:49 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi all
> Hope we are all good.
> I am greatly concerned that some of us are still trying to mislead this
> committee by interpreting the Charter and FC functions as if they are
> setting up an adhoc committee. Hence, I decided to share an extract from
> the charter on whether 'oversight' is part of the role of FC or not and
> even some suggestion on FC intervention to be on demand from
> Constituencies. I wish to state that that was not the simple interpretation
> of the charter which was written in simple English. So, I wonder where the
> difficulty is coming from.
>
> And here is the extract defining FC for our information:
>
> "NCSG Finance Committee (NCSG-??FC): The NCSG Finance Committee is
> responsible for establishing a firm financial footing for the NCSG and
> administering NCSG funds within a defined framework that meets relevant
> legal requirements as well as requirements imposed by ICANN.
>
> The NCSG-??FC?s responsibilities include fund raising, setting voluntary
> contribution levels for members, *determining procedures for the
> distribution of funds, and for monitoring the utilization of funds.*
>
> The NCSG-??FC will also be responsible for the Treasurer function.
> Formation of the NCSG-??FC, its composition, and duties within the
> NCSG-??FC are set out in Section 2.6."
>
> Therefore, I would like to ask, when a given entity is "determining
> procedures for the distribution of funds, and for monitoring the
> utilization of funds." What is the closest phrase to that than 'oversight'
> which must be done with human face. This was the same argument that brought
> about the insertion of the Section 2.6 into the Operating Procedure to make
> it clearer and some of us went on to tweak it further in the name of
> wording.
>
> I have explained the issue of bank severally, I do not have another
> option, except if those rejecting the idea of SPV can come up with one. SPV
> will save us the trouble of registering yet another entity and search for
> the trustees and management team outside our leaders as most of us are not
> in US.
>
> What matters to me is transparency and understanding. Yes, we may have
> that relatively now, what happens when people who have a wide gap of the
> understanding assumes our current leadership positions. We must be
> futuristic and think stability of NCSG in general.
>
> Lastly, like I had suggested in the past, with the ambiguity in manner of
> interpretation of charter to our caprices, it will be better to review the
> charter afresh now that some of the clauses we put their are getting
> clearer or complicated as some will choose to claim.
>
> *@thatomfikwe *
>
> I saw the note that myself and Farz resolve some issues on Operating
> Procedure, that will not work frankly speaking except we make out time for
> a meeting and take them from page 1 to end and resolve them as a
> team/meeting procedure allows. That is where we cant agree, a vote can be
> taken and we progress. We can have one or two meetings before Farz leaves,
> so it does not sound like someone is waiting for her exit to progress.
>
> So, I will suggest you call for a meeting after affecting the corrections
> you elect to do before now. Starting with doodle will be good.
>
> Also, like I pointed out before now, until we recognise the fact that FC
> is a statutory Committee in NCSG, and accord it full compliment and
> support, rather than placing it like a subcommittee; we may continue the
> merry-go-round.
>
> Best of the day
> Remmy Nweke
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:19 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Farzi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I said they edited and not commented on the document and I agree with
> the current language but you may change the term ?oversight? to a better
> term as opposed to changing the intention of the clauses themselves. Check
> carefully who made edits.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thato Mfikwe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Bruna Martins dos Santos
> > Sent: Monday, 01 October 2018 22:21
> > To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] Notes of the meeting
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am afraid I did not agree with or suggested any language regarding the
> FC having oversight on constituencies, as I cannot speak on behalf of NCUC
> and dont think our constituency would agree with. What I believe my comment
> was suggesting was to set a definition and trace limits to such oversight
> and maybe even starting a conversation with the broader community.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bruna
> >
> >
> >
> > Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 ?s 17:09, farzaneh badii <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> > Thato
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't see any comment from Bruna agreeing with FC having oversight on
> constituencies. I see one change by Joan. I have come up with a language
> that is better than direct oversight and in accordance to the charter. I
> suggest removing the constituencies and add to  3(VI)
> >
> >
> >
> > NCSG Finance Committee, at the request of the constituencies, might
> provide advice for management of constituencies funds.
> >
> > I do not agree on this as it leave so FC venerable on what to do and
> what what not to do and dedicat
> >
> > If you and Remmy don't agree with this, then we can go to NCSG list and
> itemize the issues and seek consultation, if not then the only way is to
> send it to NCSG EC. if you want to do that in November so that I'd be gone,
> then by all means do so. I will enumerate all my concerns and submit them
> to NCSG EC and the chair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 1:32 PM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi Farzaneh,
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruna and Joan, made some good edits on the section, please checkout the
> current version on the link below, they also believe that the FC should
> have some level of insight, monitoring and review function on constituency
> affairs, for me, the current statement/section is good enough. I also
> removed the management notion in regard to constituency expenditure.
> >
> > :
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit#
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:15 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Thato
> >
> >
> >
> > Did you carry this out? Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) -
> review the oversight and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to
> comment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 9:29 AM, Thato Mfikwe thatomfikwe at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Finally I get a little bit of time to help push for submission of the
> draft OP of the NCSG FC, our initial timelines were not met but if we can
> push to submit by end of November that would not be a train smash.
> >
> > 2. Remmy or Farzi, please start integration changes and comments on the
> OP Draft document so that we can prepare for submission to the EC by
> November 2018, and remember to close comment from the community
> >
> > 3. I think we need to hold another meeting towards end of October in
> order to finalise the Draft OP before submission to the EC
> >
> > 4. We need to exercise fairness and consistency in our decision, please
> kindly see my input inline below, thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thato Mfikwe.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:31 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Answers in line Remmy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Farzaneh
> >
> > Thanks for the notes. My comments inline please and in colour.
> >
> > 1.   Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
> meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter.
> >
> > 2.   Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can
> be invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
> Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
> become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right) I am also in
> line with Thato on this and you are correct on my rejection on automatic
> observer for chair for PC.
> >
> > The issue of constituency chairs has been agreed upon (2/3) and minority
> view (1/3) will be recorded, secondly, the observer status of PC chairs is
> good for enhancing synergy and coordination amongst  committees and
> constituencies, provided that the FC chair will also receive observer
> status on the NCG PC (what are you thoughts on this, because at some point
> the FC and the PC need t see eye to eye and this process will create that
> desired platform).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well I disagree with any chair being automatically an observer because I
> think the FC should be able to invite members and observers and chairs
> involvement with FC should happen as needed. But I wonder why you are
> specifically against pc chair being an observer? Can you please provide
> your reasons?
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > 2.   2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
> Procedure (accepted_
> >
> > 3.   Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the
> finance committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
> >
> > 4.   Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG
> (Joan, Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
> Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this. (Considering the
> difficulty of managing the proposed new/separate account model for NCSG
> including the issue of residency and frequency of officers/signatories, its
> going to be a hardnut and pray we thinker on yet another option of that if
> Special Purpose Vehicle [SPV] is not taken entirely/partly.)
> >
> > I think we need to see how treasury functions at constituency level,
> there might be some lessons to learn on how to administer and manage the
> bank account (NCUC chair would be of help in this instance).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Special purpose vehicle term was not accepted but this doesn't mean
> others won't think about the right avenues for creating ncsg account.
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > 2.   Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight
> and remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
> >
> > 3.   ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
> consultation etc
> >
> > 4.   Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN.
> Farzaneh disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to
> how he can approach the issue.
> >
> > Farzi, please list those suggestions
> >
> > 1.   The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato
> and Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent. (Is
> sending a dissent to EC part of the Charter requirement on decision making
> in NCSG and FC precisely, especially when one does not agree with majority
> or is it because it still has to go to EC where you preside? What of if FC
> decision stops at FC. Even with this comment here, is dissent already? I do
> not think its necessarily so and should not be encouraged). If a decision
> is taken as Committee despite our various positions, I think it should
> suffice and be respected, rather than creating impression of a divided
> house. IMO. We can disagree to agree eventually.
> >
> > Again minority views will also be recorded.
> >
> >
> >
> > You disregarded members comments on this issue and my comments and did
> not want to come to a reformed language that does not necessarily require
> FC be in ICANN meetings, is in line with our charter but also if the
> opportunity arises enables FC to attend ICANN and other meetings. Hence I
> would like to tell NCSG EC that I don't agree with these provisions that
> you have passed and that it was not a consensus decision. I have discussed
> this many many times and I have no desire to continue and I find it quite
> amusing that you first don't want to come to a compromise and consensus
>  and then ask me not to do a dissent. FC is in charge of creating resources
> for NCSG to do policy. It's not to be a strain on resources.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
> not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, great work.
> >
> > ____
> >
> > REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:19 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Stephanie will become NCSG chair either before or after Barcelona
> meeting, automatically a member of FC according to the charter
> >
> > Observers: chairs of committees and constituencies within NCSG can be
> invited to FC/Thato wants the chairs to be automatically observers/
> Farzaneh disagrees, Remmy doesn't think that Policy Committee chair should
> become an observer automatically (I hope I got that one right)
> >
> > 2.6 of charter was inserted in the NCSG Finance Committee Operating
> Procedure (accepted_
> >
> > Constituencies can seek advice about financial matters from the finance
> committee which will be nonbinding/ Discuss on the mailing list
> >
> > Remove section 5- replace with creating a bank account for NCSG (Joan,
> Stephanie and other FC members to discuss this, I believe Joan and
> Stephanie are in a good position to work together on this.
> >
> > Thato to review  3.(III), 3(IV), 3(V), 3(VI) - review the oversight and
> remove and reword then provide to NCSG FC to comment
> >
> > ABR submission/ A lightweight process for submission/ Members
> consultation etc
> >
> > Thato discussed how to receive travel allocation from ICANN. Farzaneh
> disagreed that there is a need but provided some suggestions as to how he
> can approach the issue.
> >
> > The wording of FC members attending AGM was not changed since Thato and
> Remmy supported it, Farzaneh dissented and will send her dissent
> >
> > Sorry I thought I sent this on the day of the meeting. Seems like I have
> not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 18:03:25 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:03:25 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] PTI and IANA FY20 operation plans and budgets
Message-ID: <CAGZi7Nvb4iN_OyCjXp5KBZCDsZzm2N3Ae+yAN-dUpXJe6F=wCg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

As you might have already seen, the call for comment went out through
Rafik, 5 days ago. I would now like to ask that *we formalise (though vote
or agreement) the secretarial role within the FC* so that we have a lead
penholder in our committee drafts and activities, like the current draft on
FC Operational Procedures and this comment which must be submitted within
35 days and of course still solicit community input. This will ease
coordination the FC but will still require that we work together and
collaborate, *Farzi/Sthepanie *can help and support with this, so will I,
hopefully the observers (constituency chairs) will also contribute.

*Important NOTE*: I propose Remmy to oversee the drafting process of FC
generated and driven public comments and inputs. The secretarial role will
further be discussed and agreed upon in our next online meeting, maybe
around November sometime.

Please provide your comments because we still have to build a community of
volunteers and ensure that we retain them within FC activities, currently
the 2 volunteers for the PTI and IANA Ops plan and budget comment
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
are:
1. Amadu Yusif - Ghana
2. Akriti Bopanna - India
3. Question: Rafik as the initiator or notifier, does it automatically make
him a volunteer in this draft? (okay with me, what is your say?)

I will communicate with him to get other people interested in volunteering
on this PTI and IANA draft comment.

Thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Fri Oct  5 00:22:04 2018
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 22:22:04 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] PTI and IANA FY20 operation plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nvb4iN_OyCjXp5KBZCDsZzm2N3Ae+yAN-dUpXJe6F=wCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nvb4iN_OyCjXp5KBZCDsZzm2N3Ae+yAN-dUpXJe6F=wCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc__opyDrskFkK_x9MnWXcNXPVPKPVsp_DT=zZEXD9xXCmWBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Thato and friends
Nice to hear from you on this.
It will be nice for us to have comments, looking at the concerns here,
which is the Financial imperative to both PTI and IANA fiscal year as
anticipated by ICANN.org.

This must be aligned with NCSG PC overall planned submission. As much as I
appreciate the idea for FC input, it should be drived by PC so as to avoid
any conflict.

The draft link shared was not of Rafik but ICANN.org for comments, but as
the chair of PC, he should lead the way and process while FC should look at
the draft and make input to the PC which will be communicated or
incorporated accordingly.

In this spirit, can PC factor in till next week Wednesday for any input
from FC in this regards, so as to carry it along to the community.

Don't have issues with the volunteers as more of them will be required.

NB:

*In the meantime, we may have to ask NCSG stakeholders if they have
question regarding this subject draft as required by ICANN.org with its
deadline tomorrow (October 5).*

Best of the day in our part of the world.
____
REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
(DigitalSENSE Business News
<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
<http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
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<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
JOIN us!!

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<http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)

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_________________________________________________________________
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On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:03 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you might have already seen, the call for comment went out through
> Rafik, 5 days ago. I would now like to ask that *we formalise (though
> vote or agreement) the secretarial role within the FC* so that we have a
> lead penholder in our committee drafts and activities, like the current
> draft on FC Operational Procedures and this comment which must be submitted
> within 35 days and of course still solicit community input. This will ease
> coordination the FC but will still require that we work together and
> collaborate, *Farzi/Sthepanie *can help and support with this, so will I,
> hopefully the observers (constituency chairs) will also contribute.
>
> *Important NOTE*: I propose Remmy to oversee the drafting process of FC
> generated and driven public comments and inputs. The secretarial role will
> further be discussed and agreed upon in our next online meeting, maybe
> around November sometime.
>
> Please provide your comments because we still have to build a community of
> volunteers and ensure that we retain them within FC activities, currently
> the 2 volunteers for the PTI and IANA Ops plan and budget comment
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
> are:
> 1. Amadu Yusif - Ghana
> 2. Akriti Bopanna - India
> 3. Question: Rafik as the initiator or notifier, does it automatically
> make him a volunteer in this draft? (okay with me, what is your say?)
>
> I will communicate with him to get other people interested in volunteering
> on this PTI and IANA draft comment.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 11:18:33 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:18:33 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
Message-ID: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
comment
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.

I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
input?

Current volunteers:
1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
2. Amadu Yusif
3. Farell FOLLY
4. Rafik Dammak

@Ayden, please assist where you can.


Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
potential issues
if attainable, thanks once again.

Thato Mfikwe.
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 13:05:29 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 12:05:29 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] PTI and IANA FY20 operation plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAMc__opyDrskFkK_x9MnWXcNXPVPKPVsp_DT=zZEXD9xXCmWBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nvb4iN_OyCjXp5KBZCDsZzm2N3Ae+yAN-dUpXJe6F=wCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc__opyDrskFkK_x9MnWXcNXPVPKPVsp_DT=zZEXD9xXCmWBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGZi7Nv4NPO-TTB2W4U6tDB9W1EtQPct4VVKc03aY0N0iGtXpg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Remmy and all,


@Remmy, I still need your confirmation as to where you can do secretarial
role within the FC, always subject to vote by members and can be adopted in
our next meeting if needs it be?

Can you help drive community comments on PTI and IANA plan and budget? We
need to identify issues to raise if the community feels there is a need to
do so and plan a meeting next week with all volunteers to get things going.


Thato Mfikwe.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:22 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Thato and friends
> Nice to hear from you on this.
> It will be nice for us to have comments, looking at the concerns here,
> which is the Financial imperative to both PTI and IANA fiscal year as
> anticipated by ICANN.org.
>
> This must be aligned with NCSG PC overall planned submission. As much as I
> appreciate the idea for FC input, it should be drived by PC so as to avoid
> any conflict.
>
> The draft link shared was not of Rafik but ICANN.org for comments, but as
> the chair of PC, he should lead the way and process while FC should look at
> the draft and make input to the PC which will be communicated or
> incorporated accordingly.
>
> In this spirit, can PC factor in till next week Wednesday for any input
> from FC in this regards, so as to carry it along to the community.
>
> Don't have issues with the volunteers as more of them will be required.
>
> NB:
>
> *In the meantime, we may have to ask NCSG stakeholders if they have
> question regarding this subject draft as required by ICANN.org with its
> deadline tomorrow (October 5).*
>
> Best of the day in our part of the world.
> ____
> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
> (DigitalSENSE Business News
> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
> <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>
> *2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
> JOIN us!!
>
> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS
> <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>
> *NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
> _________________________________________________________________
> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments
> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal
> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do
> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:03 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you might have already seen, the call for comment went out through
>> Rafik, 5 days ago. I would now like to ask that *we formalise (though
>> vote or agreement) the secretarial role within the FC* so that we have a
>> lead penholder in our committee drafts and activities, like the current
>> draft on FC Operational Procedures and this comment which must be submitted
>> within 35 days and of course still solicit community input. This will ease
>> coordination the FC but will still require that we work together and
>> collaborate, *Farzi/Sthepanie *can help and support with this, so will
>> I, hopefully the observers (constituency chairs) will also contribute.
>>
>> *Important NOTE*: I propose Remmy to oversee the drafting process of FC
>> generated and driven public comments and inputs. The secretarial role will
>> further be discussed and agreed upon in our next online meeting, maybe
>> around November sometime.
>>
>> Please provide your comments because we still have to build a community
>> of volunteers and ensure that we retain them within FC activities,
>> currently the 2 volunteers for the PTI and IANA Ops plan and budget
>> comment
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>> are:
>> 1. Amadu Yusif - Ghana
>> 2. Akriti Bopanna - India
>> 3. Question: Rafik as the initiator or notifier, does it automatically
>> make him a volunteer in this draft? (okay with me, what is your say?)
>>
>> I will communicate with him to get other people interested in
>> volunteering on this PTI and IANA draft comment.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-FC mailing list
> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 13:10:07 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:10:07 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ,

I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.

Best,

Rafik

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
> comment
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>
> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
> input?
>
> Current volunteers:
> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
> 2. Amadu Yusif
> 3. Farell FOLLY
> 4. Rafik Dammak
>
> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>
>
> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
> potential issues
> if attainable, thanks once again.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 14:00:23 2018
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 12:00:23 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] PTI and IANA FY20 operation plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nv4NPO-TTB2W4U6tDB9W1EtQPct4VVKc03aY0N0iGtXpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nvb4iN_OyCjXp5KBZCDsZzm2N3Ae+yAN-dUpXJe6F=wCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc__opyDrskFkK_x9MnWXcNXPVPKPVsp_DT=zZEXD9xXCmWBQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nv4NPO-TTB2W4U6tDB9W1EtQPct4VVKc03aY0N0iGtXpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc__or6UMqs408tJjQnhj88P1dMvv2JSAfA7m51QEcNN3hvEg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Thato
Sorry, I thought I did reply.
I have no issues confirming the secretarial role within FC.

With regards to driving community comments, I think what we should do as FC
is to look at it internally and make input to PC for them to drive while FC
will be ready to respond to issues as they come, so we are not seen as
running parallel policy drive, thus complimentary. That was why I had
proposed we have till Wednesday to make input on the document and send to
PC if any?

Let me know if you still have question.
____
REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
(DigitalSENSE Business News
<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
<http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
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<https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>

*2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
<http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
JOIN us!!

*Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS
<http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)

*NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
_________________________________________________________________
*Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments
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On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:05 AM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Remmy and all,
>
>
> @Remmy, I still need your confirmation as to where you can do secretarial
> role within the FC, always subject to vote by members and can be adopted in
> our next meeting if needs it be?
>
> Can you help drive community comments on PTI and IANA plan and budget? We
> need to identify issues to raise if the community feels there is a need to
> do so and plan a meeting next week with all volunteers to get things going.
>
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:22 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thato and friends
>> Nice to hear from you on this.
>> It will be nice for us to have comments, looking at the concerns here,
>> which is the Financial imperative to both PTI and IANA fiscal year as
>> anticipated by ICANN.org.
>>
>> This must be aligned with NCSG PC overall planned submission. As much as
>> I appreciate the idea for FC input, it should be drived by PC so as to
>> avoid any conflict.
>>
>> The draft link shared was not of Rafik but ICANN.org for comments, but as
>> the chair of PC, he should lead the way and process while FC should look at
>> the draft and make input to the PC which will be communicated or
>> incorporated accordingly.
>>
>> In this spirit, can PC factor in till next week Wednesday for any input
>> from FC in this regards, so as to carry it along to the community.
>>
>> Don't have issues with the volunteers as more of them will be required.
>>
>> NB:
>>
>> *In the meantime, we may have to ask NCSG stakeholders if they have
>> question regarding this subject draft as required by ICANN.org with its
>> deadline tomorrow (October 5).*
>>
>> Best of the day in our part of the world.
>> ____
>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>> <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>>
>> *2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
>> JOIN us!!
>>
>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS
>> <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>
>> *NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:03 PM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As you might have already seen, the call for comment went out through
>>> Rafik, 5 days ago. I would now like to ask that *we formalise (though
>>> vote or agreement) the secretarial role within the FC* so that we have
>>> a lead penholder in our committee drafts and activities, like the current
>>> draft on FC Operational Procedures and this comment which must be submitted
>>> within 35 days and of course still solicit community input. This will ease
>>> coordination the FC but will still require that we work together and
>>> collaborate, *Farzi/Sthepanie *can help and support with this, so will
>>> I, hopefully the observers (constituency chairs) will also contribute.
>>>
>>> *Important NOTE*: I propose Remmy to oversee the drafting process of FC
>>> generated and driven public comments and inputs. The secretarial role will
>>> further be discussed and agreed upon in our next online meeting, maybe
>>> around November sometime.
>>>
>>> Please provide your comments because we still have to build a community
>>> of volunteers and ensure that we retain them within FC activities,
>>> currently the 2 volunteers for the PTI and IANA Ops plan and budget
>>> comment
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>> are:
>>> 1. Amadu Yusif - Ghana
>>> 2. Akriti Bopanna - India
>>> 3. Question: Rafik as the initiator or notifier, does it automatically
>>> make him a volunteer in this draft? (okay with me, what is your say?)
>>>
>>> I will communicate with him to get other people interested in
>>> volunteering on this PTI and IANA draft comment.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>>
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 21:20:15 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:20:15 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12
October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
>> comment
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
>> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>
>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>> input?
>>
>> Current volunteers:
>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>
>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>> potential issues
>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 11:44:49 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:44:49 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
Message-ID: <CAGZi7Nu5RonuDYSehbevYAdV0Y=BkPX_x5SNC1G8rro=R9cENg@mail.gmail.com>

@Farell, your preferred dates?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
wrote:

> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12
> October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>>
>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
>>> comment
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
>>> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>
>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>> input?
>>>
>>> Current volunteers:
>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>
>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>> potential issues
>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>
>
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Thu Oct 11 10:56:31 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:56:31 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>

We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one, instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
> 
> Thato Mfikwe.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this comment <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit> and would propose that we have a penholder as Farell indicated in the mailing list so that we can start with the comment process.
> 
> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an input?
> 
> Current volunteers:
> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
> 2. Amadu Yusif
> 3. Farell FOLLY
> 4. Rafik Dammak
> 
> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
> 
> 
> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for potential issues
> if attainable, thanks once again.
> 
> Thato Mfikwe.

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From akriti at cis-india.org  Thu Oct 11 11:50:49 2018
From: akriti at cis-india.org (Akriti)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:50:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Nu5RonuDYSehbevYAdV0Y=BkPX_x5SNC1G8rro=R9cENg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
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    	Hi,?
Tomorrow works better for me, thanks!?
Best,?Akriti?
    	

    	
    
  




On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM +0530, "Thato Mfikwe" <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:











@Farell, your preferred dates?
Thato Mfikwe.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one, instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.


@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________
(Ekue) Farell FOLLYNCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committeelinkedin.com/in/farellf?








On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi ,
I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
Best,
Rafik

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this comment and would propose that we have a penholder as Farell indicated in the mailing list so that we can start with the comment process.
I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an input?
Current volunteers:1. NCSG FC members??????????????????????????? 5. Akriti Bopanna
2. Amadu Yusif3. Farell FOLLY4. Rafik Dammak

@Ayden, please assist where you can.

Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for potential issues
if attainable, thanks once again.
Thato Mfikwe.










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From farell at benin2point0.org  Thu Oct 11 14:29:29 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:29:29 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <48ABCD9E30E0E822.B799297D-4A88-4126-964E-3F090B287D64@mail.outlook.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
 <CAGZi7Nu5RonuDYSehbevYAdV0Y=BkPX_x5SNC1G8rro=R9cENg@mail.gmail.com>
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Tomorrow 08:00 UTC works for me;

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 11 Oct 2018, at 10:50, Akriti <akriti at cis-india.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Tomorrow works better for me, thanks! 
> 
> Best, 
> Akriti 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM +0530, "Thato Mfikwe" <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> @Farell, your preferred dates?
> 
> Thato Mfikwe.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one, instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
> 
> @__f_f__
> 
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
> 
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>> 
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi ,
>> 
>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this comment <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit> and would propose that we have a penholder as Farell indicated in the mailing list so that we can start with the comment process.
>> 
>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an input?
>> 
>> Current volunteers:
>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>> 
>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for potential issues
>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>> 
>> Thato Mfikwe.

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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 02:40:45 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:40:45 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGZi7Ns_xazYEtgCGcEqVc6JfU-QkqyBDpApC5dC7fa8MT47Fw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Farell,

Can you set up a Skype call for tomorrow at 11UTC as it might accommodate
many from different parts of the globe based on current preferences, thanks.

If this proposal is okay with everyone, please send through your Skype ID.

Thato Mfikwe.
Skype ID: mfikwet16

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
wrote:

> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12
> October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>>
>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
>>> comment
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
>>> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>
>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>> input?
>>>
>>> Current volunteers:
>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>
>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>> potential issues
>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>
>
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 06:54:16 2018
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:54:16 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Ns_xazYEtgCGcEqVc6JfU-QkqyBDpApC5dC7fa8MT47Fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=BjdhqP4zm8Ak=XtugbeLCQwq1m37RyEYwTR3oTRqJ=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGZi7Nsicz=K9S-81zQOWDg7AfujtHuUcNN6G6p=nkmMzaJj2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <36350C6E-53FA-4030-97F6-8A523D5C1256@benin2point0.org>
 <CAGZi7Ns_xazYEtgCGcEqVc6JfU-QkqyBDpApC5dC7fa8MT47Fw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc__oqyC+44VuQWkaoDXE8p8tCeba6kCED_xz=Fj56gm3yEeg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks
I am not sure of being available at the proposed time but here is my skype
ID: remmyn
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:41 AM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Farell,
>
> Can you set up a Skype call for tomorrow at 11UTC as it might accommodate
> many from different parts of the globe based on current preferences, thanks.
>
> If this proposal is okay with everyone, please send through your Skype ID.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
> Skype ID: mfikwet16
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
>> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12
>> October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
>> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
>> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>>
>>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
>>>> comment
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
>>>> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>>
>>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>>> input?
>>>>
>>>> Current volunteers:
>>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>>
>>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>>> potential issues
>>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>>
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 12:01:03 2018
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:01:03 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
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Hi all,

When can we have a meeting so that we can all meet for just an hour, some
will not be available on Monday or Wednesday and I am not available only on
Tuesday?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:54 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks
> I am not sure of being available at the proposed time but here is my skype
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> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:41 AM Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Farell,
>>
>> Can you set up a Skype call for tomorrow at 11UTC as it might accommodate
>> many from different parts of the globe based on current preferences, thanks.
>>
>> If this proposal is okay with everyone, please send through your Skype ID.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>> Skype ID: mfikwet16
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
>>> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>>> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday
>>> 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
>>> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
>>> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi ,
>>>>
>>>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working
>>>>> on this comment
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>>>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in
>>>>> the mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>>>> input?
>>>>>
>>>>> Current volunteers:
>>>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>>>
>>>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>>>> potential issues
>>>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-FC mailing list
>> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 17:01:36 2018
From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:01:36 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <E198604A-DB2D-431F-B6F3-81EAB059DEC3@benin2point0.org>
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Message-ID: <CAPZSw-qopNg0RPX-SFynUfp25anqPJc5uPE58m11q902MVG4fw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm not available tomorrow unfortunately but Monday or Tuesday at 17UTC
could do it.

Best,


On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 07:29 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:

> Tomorrow 08:00 UTC works for me;
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 Oct 2018, at 10:50, Akriti <akriti at cis-india.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Tomorrow works better for me, thanks!
>
> Best,
> Akriti
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM +0530, "Thato Mfikwe" <
> thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> @Farell, your preferred dates?
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
>>> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>>> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday
>>> 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
>>> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
>>> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi ,
>>>>
>>>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on
>>>>>  this comment
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>>>>  and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in
>>>>> the mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>>>> input?
>>>>>
>>>>> Current volunteers:
>>>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>>>
>>>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>>>> potential issues
>>>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>
>>>>
>
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From yamadu at ug.edu.gh  Fri Oct 12 01:02:39 2018
From: yamadu at ug.edu.gh (AMADU YUSIF)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:02:39 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
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I also prefer tommoro

Yusif



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Akriti <akriti at cis-india.org>
Date: 11/10/2018 10:18 (GMT+00:00)
To: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>, AMADU YUSIF <yamadu at ug.edu.gh>, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets

Hi,

Tomorrow works better for me, thanks!

Best,
Akriti




On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM +0530, "Thato Mfikwe" <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:


@Farell, your preferred dates?

Thato Mfikwe.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org<mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one, instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
linkedin.com/in/farellf<http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>






On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi ,

I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.

Best,

Rafik

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com<mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this comment<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit> and would propose that we have a penholder as Farell indicated in the mailing list so that we can start with the comment process.

I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an input?

Current volunteers:
1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
2. Amadu Yusif
3. Farell FOLLY
4. Rafik Dammak

@Ayden, please assist where you can.


Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for potential issues
if attainable, thanks once again.

Thato Mfikwe.

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From farell at benin2point0.org  Fri Oct 12 12:03:17 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:03:17 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
In-Reply-To: <CAGZi7Ns_xazYEtgCGcEqVc6JfU-QkqyBDpApC5dC7fa8MT47Fw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nuv3E12iDd8woUYB2_t8jSKcrL6Bdk=-LahOKqp1L4HnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Thato,

Tomorrow is confusing for me, I received the e-mail at 01:40 am in my time zone, please confirm the actual date and time in UTC coordinates.

Also, @all please send through your skype id.

Have a nice weekend.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 12 Oct 2018, at 01:40, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Farell,
> 
> Can you set up a Skype call for tomorrow at 11UTC as it might accommodate many from different parts of the globe based on current preferences, thanks.
> 
> If this proposal is okay with everyone, please send through your Skype ID.
> 
> Thato Mfikwe.
> Skype ID: mfikwet16
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one, instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
> 
> @__f_f__
> 
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
> 
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12 October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>> 
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi ,
>> 
>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com <mailto:thatomfikwe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this comment <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit> and would propose that we have a penholder as Farell indicated in the mailing list so that we can start with the comment process.
>> 
>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an input?
>> 
>> Current volunteers:
>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>> 
>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for potential issues
>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>> 
>> Thato Mfikwe.
> 

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 02:34:15 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:34:15 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-FC] Draft PTI/IANA FY20 Operating Plans and budgets
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hi all,

any update of the draft comment status? the deadline for submission is the
12th Nov.

Best,

Rafik

Le ven. 12 oct. 2018 ? 18:03, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
?crit :

> Hello Thato,
>
> Tomorrow is confusing for me, I received the e-mail at 01:40 am in my time
> zone, please confirm the actual date and time in UTC coordinates.
>
> Also, @all please send through your skype id.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Oct 2018, at 01:40, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Farell,
>
> Can you set up a Skype call for tomorrow at 11UTC as it might accommodate
> many from different parts of the globe based on current preferences, thanks.
>
> If this proposal is okay with everyone, please send through your Skype ID.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
> Skype ID: mfikwet16
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:56 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> We could use our existing ncuc skype channel or create an ad hoc one,
>> instead of bothering Maryam for just a few people. It is a suggestion.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>> NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 20:20, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just wanting to check whether, can we hold an online meeting on Friday 12
>> October, Tuesday or Monday around 5pm UTC in order to start a discussion
>> around this comment? I can ssk Maryam to create a meeting link or we can
>> meet via Skype, please let me know your preferences, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:10 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>>
>>> I am adding Raphael as he volunteered too.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 17:18 Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to firstly, thank you all for your interest in working on this
>>>> comment
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uIAZKDp3qFb0ZxoXCH7eb7R6lKbkR3Mo9gKd7Jgokk/edit>
>>>> and would propose that we have a *penholder as Farell indicated in the
>>>> mailing list* so that we can start with the comment process.
>>>>
>>>> I just inserted an introductory section and we now need to agree and
>>>> comment on issues, anyone wiling to help initiate this process or make an
>>>> input?
>>>>
>>>> Current volunteers:
>>>> 1. NCSG FC members                            5. Akriti Bopanna
>>>> 2. Amadu Yusif
>>>> 3. Farell FOLLY
>>>> 4. Rafik Dammak
>>>>
>>>> @Ayden, please assist where you can.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, feel free to peruse reports and mailing list discussions for
>>>> potential issues
>>>> if attainable, thanks once again.
>>>>
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>
>>>
>>
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