From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 00:28:17 2017 From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 17:28:17 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests Message-ID: Hi Ed and all, I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we have proposed? Thanks Farzaneh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Sat Feb 4 13:40:53 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 11:40:53 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> Hi Farzi, As you know traditionally Supplemental Requests have come from the Constituencies. I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting to hear back. As for other requests: 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - NPOC event in the UAE. I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be determined); 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental Request proposed by any of our members. This is not a zero sum game and the more requests from the noncommercials community for expenditures that fit with ICANNs operational plans should be encouraged. A reminder: deadline for submission is February 10th. Kind Regards, Ed Morris Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2017, at 22:29, farzaneh badii wrote: > > Hi Ed and all, > > I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we have proposed? > > Thanks > Farzaneh > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Sat Feb 4 21:31:05 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 14:31:05 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Expenditures In-Reply-To: <20170121080454.rszri2ivldrkvrpl@tarvainen.info> References: <2ad0f18f583f45a09090fd04650160f4@toast.net> <20170121080454.rszri2ivldrkvrpl@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <8eefeb45c5894db4a8f5c15e3053b10e@toast.net> Hi Tapani, Thanks for this. : (1) NCSG.IS domain registration, until now paid for by Avri Doria; If we could get a renewal amount, so I can make a Supplemental Budget request for it, I'd be appreciative. (2) New member database / website project, paid for by ICANN; this is not really regular yet, it's still under development and doesn't have fixed payment schedule, but it should move to maintenance mode this year. It would be great to get more details on this so: 1) we can understand and document the arrangement we have with ICANN and any external providers and 2) incorporate it into our overall financial portfolio. Thanks, Ed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Sat Feb 4 21:54:17 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 14:54:17 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Observers Message-ID: <308c090e16044ea0a5e05cd293caa318@toast.net> Hello, I'd like to propose that we extend invitations to the following individuals / entities to join the FC list as observers: 1. NCSG Treasurer Dr. Milton Mueller. NCUC Chair Farzaneh Badii has confirmed that that Dr. Mueller has been re-appointed to this position. I believe it's appropriate to have Constituency Chairs and financial leaders to be part of the finance conversation here at the SG level so would like to offer him the opportunity to join us as an Observer. 2. Rafik Dammak. Rafik was recently elected Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee. Coordination with the Policy Committee, particularly in carrying out our responsibility of working with ICANN staff to see that the NCSG is treated fairly in the budget and all matters financial, would be a plus. Adding Rafik to this list as an Observer would assist in this effort. 3. A representative of the candidate Consumers Constituency. NCSG Charter ?2.6.1 requires us to extend an invitation to reach candidate Constituency to appoint an Observer to the F.C. list. FC members: please indicate your approval or dissent of this proposal. Invitations will be sent once all FC members have indicated their position on this proposal or once seventy two hours has passed with no opposition being posted on list. FC observers: as always, your views are most welcome. Kind Regards, Ed Morris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working > together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and > submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had > made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting > to hear back. > > As for other requests: > > 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; > > 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - > NPOC event in the UAE. I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to > boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; > > 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses > the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; > > 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an > event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be > determined); > > 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would > like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that > assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both > constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. > > Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental > Request proposed by any of our members. This is not a zero sum game > and the more requests from the noncommercials community for > expenditures that fit with ICANNs operational plans should be encouraged. > > A reminder: deadline for submission is February 10th. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed Morris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 22:29, farzaneh badii > wrote: > >> Hi Ed and all, >> >> I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget >> requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we >> have proposed? >> >> Thanks >> Farzaneh >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-FC mailing list >> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Sat Feb 4 22:52:07 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 15:52:07 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests In-Reply-To: References: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> Message-ID: <4afd02bb5810414db939f993e32b76f2@toast.net> Hi Klaus, Thanks for the correction. I did understand you to cite that as a reason for not wanting to go forward with a joint outreach activity that had been proposed by Ms. Loup. If that is incorrect please accept my apology and kindly get in touch with Ms. Loup as there still would be time to put together a Supplemental Budget request. For the record, there are members of the NCUC, as well, who will not be attending the meeting for that reason. I'm personally undecided but at the moment am inclined not to attend. Recent attempts to display crosses at Catholic churches have been met with take downs by law enforcement. I'm not sure I would be comfortable there and members of other faith traditions have even more serious concerns. Thanks for clarifying and, again, apologies for any misunderstanding. Best, Ed ---------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Stoll" Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 8:39 PM To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests Dear Friends Correction. NPOC is not planning to boycott the UAE meeting only those members of NPOC who object to give their religion in the Visa application will not be able to participate in the UAE meeting. Yours Klaus On 2/4/2017 12:40 PM, Edward Morris wrote: Hi Farzi, As you know traditionally Supplemental Requests have come from the Constituencies. I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting to hear back. As for other requests: 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - NPOC event in the UAE. I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be determined); 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental Request proposed by any of our members. 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To meet our Charter's explicit requirements I have requested time > and space for a Finance Committee meeting at both the upcoming Reykjavik > NCPH Meeting and at ICANN 58 at Copenhagen. > > I have received word that we have been allocated a meeting space at > the Intercessional meeting on Thursday February 16th between 0900-0945 UTC. > Remote participation details will be sent as they become available. > > I hope as many of you will attend as possible. I'll be putting together an > agenda and hope to have out to everyone later this week. Please let me now > what you'd like to discuss. The FC has not met in recent years, if ever. > Let's make this meeting a productive one! > > Kind Regards, > > Ed Morris > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To meet our Charter's explicit requirements I have > requested time and space for a Finance Committee meeting at both the > upcoming Reykjavik NCPH Meeting and at ICANN 58 at Copenhagen. > I have received word that we have been allocated a meeting space at > the Intercessional meeting on Thursday February 16th between 0900-0945 > UTC. Remote participation details will be sent as they become available. > I hope as many of you will attend as possible. I'll be putting > together an agenda and hope to have out to everyone later this week. > Please let me now what you'd like to discuss. The FC has not met in > recent years, if ever. 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On 2017-02-03 5:28 PM, farzaneh badii wrote: > /Hi Ed and all, / > / > / > /I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget > requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we > have proposed?/ > / > / > /Thanks / > /Farzaneh// > / -- *--------------------------------------------* "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ---------------------------------------------- Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanfran at yorku.ca Sun Feb 5 23:34:04 2017 From: lanfran at yorku.ca (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 16:34:04 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests In-Reply-To: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> References: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> Message-ID: <58979A4C.5090804@yorku.ca> All, Just to underscore a correction here. As a member of the NPOC constituency I have heard nothing about an NPOC boycott of the Abu Dhabi meeting. As to what individuals who have NPOC, NCSG, NCUC, or whatever membership intend to do, I know nothing and, unless they make formal proposals to the NPOC membership, I don't really care. At that level it is none of our constituency business. Sam Lanfranco On 2017-02-04 6:40 AM, Edward Morris wrote: > Hi Farzi, > > As you know traditionally Supplemental Requests have come from the > Constituencies. I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working > together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and > submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had > made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting > to hear back. > > As for other requests: > > 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; > > 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - > NPOC event in the UAE.I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to > boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; > > 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses > the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; > > 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an > event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be > determined); > > 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would > like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that > assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both > constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. > > Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental > Request proposed by any of our members. This is not a zero sum game > and the more requests from the noncommercials community for > expenditures that fit with ICANNs operational plans should be encouraged. > > A reminder: deadline for submission is February 10th. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed Morris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 22:29, farzaneh badii > wrote: > >> Hi Ed and all, >> >> I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget >> requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we >> have proposed? >> >> Thanks >> Farzaneh >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-FC mailing list >> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc -- *--------------------------------------------* "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ---------------------------------------------- Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does that mean I access this remotely or do I come in person. Sam On 2017-02-04 8:03 PM, Edward Morris wrote: FC Members / Observers, The NCSG Charter ?2.6.4 requires that "when possible, as enabled for example by an ICANN meeting, a face-to-face meeting of the NCSG-FC will be held". To meet our Charter's explicit requirements I have requested time and space for a Finance Committee meeting at both the upcoming Reykjavik NCPH Meeting and at ICANN 58 at Copenhagen. I have received word that we have been allocated a meeting space at the Intercessional meeting on Thursday February 16th between 0900-0945 UTC. Remote participation details will be sent as they become available. I hope as many of you will attend as possible. I'll be putting together an agenda and hope to have out to everyone later this week. Please let me now what you'd like to discuss. The FC has not met in recent years, if ever. Let's make this meeting a productive one! 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Best, Florian Florian DANIEL Sonnenweg 6 4280 K?nigswiesen floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com +43660 36 80 504 On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Edward Morris wrote: FC Members / Observers, The NCSG Charter ?2.6.4 requires that "when possible, as enabled for example by an ICANN meeting, a face-to-face meeting of the NCSG-FC will be held". To meet our Charter's explicit requirements I have requested time and space for a Finance Committee meeting at both the upcoming Reykjavik NCPH Meeting and at ICANN 58 at Copenhagen. I have received word that we have been allocated a meeting space at the Intercessional meeting on Thursday February 16th between 0900-0945 UTC. Remote participation details will be sent as they become available. I hope as many of you will attend as possible. I'll be putting together an agenda and hope to have out to everyone later this week. Please let me now what you'd like to discuss. The FC has not met in recent years, if ever. Let's make this meeting a productive one! 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URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Mon Feb 6 09:07:49 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:07:49 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests In-Reply-To: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> References: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> Message-ID: <20170206070748.GA20360@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Hi Ed, all, NCSG is going to make one for an IGF workshop, too. Tapani On Feb 04 11:40, Edward Morris (egmorris1 at toast.net) wrote: > Hi Farzi, > > As you know traditionally Supplemental Requests have come from the Constituencies. I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting to hear back. > > As for other requests: > > 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; > > 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - NPOC event in the UAE. I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; > > 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; > > 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be determined); > > 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. > > Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental Request proposed by any of our members. This is not a zero sum game and the more requests from the noncommercials community for expenditures that fit with ICANNs operational plans should be encouraged. > > A reminder: deadline for submission is February 10th. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed Morris > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 22:29, farzaneh badii wrote: > > > > Hi Ed and all, > > > > I was wondering what NCSG plans are for making additional budget requests and what have we developed other than the policy capacity we have proposed? > > > > Thanks > > Farzaneh From egmorris1 at toast.net Mon Feb 6 13:52:59 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:52:59 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests In-Reply-To: <20170206070748.GA20360@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <39B1E54D-7CE1-4ECD-9723-B69740BA0224@toast.net> <20170206070748.GA20360@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: <3b9cf71cf14343399a4a6051fce7a235@toast.net> Thanks Tapani. Just a reminder - all Supplemental Budget Requests need to be submitted no later regain this Friday February 10th (extended deadline). Best, Ed ---------------------------------------- From: "Tapani Tarvainen" Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:08 AM To: ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is Subject: Re: [NCSG-FC] FY18 - NCSG requests Hi Ed, all, NCSG is going to make one for an IGF workshop, too. Tapani On Feb 04 11:40, Edward Morris (egmorris1 at toast.net) wrote: > Hi Farzi, > > As you know traditionally Supplemental Requests have come from the Constituencies. I'm happy to see that NCUC and NPOC have been working together on a joint proposal and I would be happy to shape up and submit as an NCSG request if the entire FC agrees. As you know I had made several suggestions to your initial submission; I'm still waiting to hear back. > > As for other requests: > > 1. To the best of my knowledge none have come from the NCSG EC; > > 2. Anna Loup had expressed interest in possibly doing a joint NCUC - NPOC event in the UAE. I took this to NPOC and was told they intend to boycott the Abu Dhabi meeting; > > 3. I am putting together a small request based upon upcoming expenses the NCSG Chair has previously notified the NCSG that is coming true; > > 4. I am exploring the possibility of submitting a request to cohost an event with a GAC member at the Latin American meeting (site to be determined); > > 5. Given discussions surrounding the intersessional meeting I would like to submit a request for a beta travel policy involving firms that assist members in obtaining visas for ICANN meetings - unless both constituencies intend to do so. Feedback requested. > > Of course. I'm sure the FC would be open to submitting a Supplemental Request proposed by any of our members. 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That just shows you are an incredibly discerning gentleman with impeccable taste. :) Seriously, I hope there is a way you'll be able to attend the NCPH budget meeting. If not, the world won't end but you, of course, would be of great help. BTW I am incorporating your previous suggestion of non ICANN fundraising on the agenda. Thanks, Ed Sam On 2/9/2017 10:29 AM, Edward Morris wrote: Hi everybody, Please feel free to submit any items for the agenda for the F2F meeting a week from today in Reykjavik. I'll try to get a tentative agenda out to everyone by Saturday. Thanks, Ed -- ------------------------------------------------ "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ??????????????????????? ------------------------------------------------ Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: https://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 17:38:50 2017 From: floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com (Florian Daniel) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:38:50 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Agenda In-Reply-To: <4b913bd8-2c8f-7758-4406-f86081beae28@yorku.ca> References: <0b3cbe8f42ff40ecbddc6653677fee2f@toast.net> <4b913bd8-2c8f-7758-4406-f86081beae28@yorku.ca> Message-ID: Hi everybody, it would really nice to set up a major todo list for each year. So we, and future FCs know what should be done, and who is responsible. Maybe we can set up some kind of "database" to keep track of everything that needs attention. I don't know, if we should discuss this F2F, because we can also arrange this online. Cheers, Florian DANIEL Sonnenweg 6 4280 K?nigswiesen floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com +43660 36 80 504 On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: > Ed, > > Just to confirm that I will be there for this meeting, but for none of the > intersessional meetings. > > Sam > > > *On 2/9/2017 10:29 AM, Edward Morris wrote:* > > > *Hi everybody,* > *Please feel free to submit any items for the agenda for the F2F meeting a > week from today in Reykjavik. I'll try to get a tentative agenda out to > everyone by Saturday.* > *Thanks,* > *Ed* > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured > in an unjust state" -Confucius > ??????????????????????? > ------------------------------------------------ > Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) > Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 > email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco > blog: https://samlanfranco.blogspot.com > Phone: +1 613-476-0429 <(613)%20476-0429> cell: +1 416-816-2852 <(416)%20816-2852> > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Feb 9 17:46:26 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:46:26 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Agenda In-Reply-To: References: <0b3cbe8f42ff40ecbddc6653677fee2f@toast.net> <4b913bd8-2c8f-7758-4406-f86081beae28@yorku.ca> Message-ID: <20170209154626.hjvwnvcevjibvtlq@tarvainen.info> Hi Daniel, Yes, some kind of tool to track FC tasks would definitely be useful. Maybe some project management software, Redmine, Trello or the like would do. Tapani On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:38:50PM +0100, Florian Daniel (floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com) wrote: > Hi everybody, > > it would really nice to set up a major todo list for each year. So we, and > future FCs know what should be done, and who is responsible. > Maybe we can set up some kind of "database" to keep track of everything > that needs attention. > I don't know, if we should discuss this F2F, because we can also arrange > this online. > > > Cheers, > > > > Florian DANIEL > > Sonnenweg 6 > 4280 K?nigswiesen > floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com > +43660 36 80 504 > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: > > > Ed, > > > > Just to confirm that I will be there for this meeting, but for none of the > > intersessional meetings. > > > > Sam > > > > > > *On 2/9/2017 10:29 AM, Edward Morris wrote:* > > > > > > *Hi everybody,* > > *Please feel free to submit any items for the agenda for the F2F meeting a > > week from today in Reykjavik. I'll try to get a tentative agenda out to > > everyone by Saturday.* > > *Thanks,* > > *Ed* > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------ > > "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured > > in an unjust state" -Confucius > > ??????????????????????? > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) > > Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 > > email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco > > blog: https://samlanfranco.blogspot.com > > Phone: +1 613-476-0429 <(613)%20476-0429> cell: +1 416-816-2852 <(416)%20816-2852> From floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 17:49:21 2017 From: floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com (Florian Daniel) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:49:21 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Supplemental Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ed, If all good (or not so good) ideas are welcome: Can we try to allocate some budget for possible smaller events, that are organized by NCSG members across the globe? As I am trying myself to organize a youth IGF in Austria this year, I can imagine that more people could use some additional funds to secure location, trainers .... As I mentioned earlier, I am not 100 percent sure, what we can submit as Supplemental Budget Request. Thanks for reminding us lazy folks again :) Florian DANIEL Sonnenweg 6 4280 K?nigswiesen floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com +43660 36 80 504 On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Edward Morris wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > Please submit any additional you may have for Supplemental Budget Requests > to me by midnight UTC tonight. I'll try to put anything proposed together > for submission by tomorrows deadline. This is not a zero sum game - all > good ideas encouraged! > > Thanks, > > Ed > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As I mentioned earlier, I am not 100 percent sure, what we can submit as Supplemental Budget Request. Thanks for reminding us lazy folks again :) Florian DANIEL Sonnenweg 6 4280 K?nigswiesen floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com +43660 36 80 504 On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Edward Morris wrote: Hi everybody, Please submit any additional you may have for Supplemental Budget Requests to me by midnight UTC tonight. I'll try to put anything proposed together for submission by tomorrows deadline. This is not a zero sum game - all good ideas encouraged! Thanks, Ed _______________________________________________ NCSG-FC mailing list NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tapani On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 02:54:17PM -0500, Edward Morris (egmorris1 at toast.net) wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to propose that we extend invitations to the following individuals / entities to join the FC list as observers: > > 1. NCSG Treasurer Dr. Milton Mueller. NCUC Chair Farzaneh Badii has confirmed that that Dr. Mueller has been re-appointed to this position. I believe it's appropriate to have Constituency Chairs and financial leaders to be part of the finance conversation here at the SG level so would like to offer him the opportunity to join us as an Observer. > > 2. Rafik Dammak. Rafik was recently elected Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee. Coordination with the Policy Committee, particularly in carrying out our responsibility of working with ICANN staff to see that the NCSG is treated fairly in the budget and all matters financial, would be a plus. Adding Rafik to this list as an Observer would assist in this effort. > > 3. A representative of the candidate Consumers Constituency. NCSG Charter ?2.6.1 requires us to extend an invitation to reach candidate Constituency to appoint an Observer to the F.C. list. > > FC members: please indicate your approval or dissent of this proposal. Invitations will be sent once all FC members have indicated their position on this proposal or once seventy two hours has passed with no opposition being posted on list. > > FC observers: as always, your views are most welcome. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed Morris From egmorris1 at toast.net Thu Feb 9 18:30:46 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:30:46 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Observers In-Reply-To: <20170209155708.nwe3zi4uk5crumqw@tarvainen.info> References: <308c090e16044ea0a5e05cd293caa318@toast.net> <20170209155708.nwe3zi4uk5crumqw@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <3111DCD1-3EB5-496C-B965-FCAB78588947@toast.net> Thanks for the update Tapani. Well, if there is no one to ask to join the FC as an Observer than I guess I will have to ask no body. :) Ed Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Feb 2017, at 15:57, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > I'm happy to have Milton and Rafik as observers if they are willing. > > Candidate constituencues indeed have a right to appoint an observer by > our charter, but the last known representative of (candidate) > Consumers' Constituency left her organization last month and didn't > reply to my email asking about its affect on the constituency. > > In any case I intend to recommend to the EC that the candidate > constituency status should be terminated, and if they agree the issue > will become moot. > > Tapani > >> On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 02:54:17PM -0500, Edward Morris (egmorris1 at toast.net) wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to propose that we extend invitations to the following individuals / entities to join the FC list as observers: >> >> 1. NCSG Treasurer Dr. Milton Mueller. NCUC Chair Farzaneh Badii has confirmed that that Dr. Mueller has been re-appointed to this position. I believe it's appropriate to have Constituency Chairs and financial leaders to be part of the finance conversation here at the SG level so would like to offer him the opportunity to join us as an Observer. >> >> 2. Rafik Dammak. Rafik was recently elected Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee. Coordination with the Policy Committee, particularly in carrying out our responsibility of working with ICANN staff to see that the NCSG is treated fairly in the budget and all matters financial, would be a plus. Adding Rafik to this list as an Observer would assist in this effort. >> >> 3. A representative of the candidate Consumers Constituency. NCSG Charter ?2.6.1 requires us to extend an invitation to reach candidate Constituency to appoint an Observer to the F.C. list. >> >> FC members: please indicate your approval or dissent of this proposal. Invitations will be sent once all FC members have indicated their position on this proposal or once seventy two hours has passed with no opposition being posted on list. >> >> FC observers: as always, your views are most welcome. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Ed Morris > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc From egmorris1 at toast.net Fri Feb 10 11:55:35 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 04:55:35 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] An Invitation to Rafik Message-ID: Hi Rafik, As you may be aware, I was recently elected Chair of the NCSG Finance Committee. It is my hope during the coming year to revitalize the FC, to make it a key and productive part of noncommercial activities at ICANN. As part of this initiative I hope to get more people involved in the Financial Committee and would like to work closely with our Policy Committee to maximize the potential of the FC. At my request, the FC has agreed to appoint you as an Observer to the FC, placing you on our mailing list with full posting privileges. Rafik, we hope you?ll join us. Please let us know if you?d be willing to join the FC as an Observer, per ?2.6.6 of the NCSG Charter. Thank You, Ed Morris Chair NCSG Finance Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Fri Feb 10 11:58:05 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 04:58:05 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] An Invitation to Milton Message-ID: Hi Milton, As you may be aware, I was recently elected Chair of the NCSG Finance Committee. It is my hope during the coming year to revitalize the FC, to make it a key and productive part of noncommercial activities at ICANN. 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It is my hope during the coming year to revitalize the FC, to make it a key and productive part of noncommercial activities at ICANN. >> >> As part of this initiative I hope to get more people involved in the Financial Committee and would like to work closely with our Policy Committee to maximize the potential of the FC. At my request, the FC has agreed to appoint you as an Observer to the FC, placing you on our mailing list with full posting privileges. >> >> Rafik, we hope you?ll join us. Please let us know if you?d be willing to join the FC as an Observer, per ?2.6.6 of the NCSG Charter. >> >> Thank You, >> >> Ed Morris >> Chair >> NCSG Finance Committee >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Feb 15 20:40:49 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:40:49 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Fwd: FINANCE UPDATE - Presentation Request for ICANN 58 Message-ID: <20170215184049.eiuoszkom7zwas27@roller.tarvainen.info> Finance Committee may have ideas about this: ----- Forwarded message from Jessica Castillo ----- Dear SO/AC/SG Leaders: The Finance Team would like to again provide a 30-minute Budget & Finance Update for groups able to include this time on their agendas at ICANN 58. The proposed topic for this update is listed below. We can also offer an additional 15-minute Q&A segment on the items below if your agendas allow for the additional time. o High level overview of FY18 draft publication (30min) ? Current Status ? Next Steps o Q&A Topics (15min) ? Reserve Fund ? Transition Costs ? Auction Proceeds If your group is interested and able to accommodate, please email me a suggested day/time for this agenda item during ICANN 58. Additionally, we would like to bring to your attention two finance related sessions we will be facilitating at ICANN 58. Further details will be on the ICANN 58 meeting website shortly. Budget Working Group 14 March 2017 5pm-8pm Location: MR 5 Financial Accountability: Operating Plan and Budget 16 March 2017 9am-1030am Location: HALL A2 On behalf of the Finance Team, thank you for welcoming our presentations at your sessions. We look forward to seeing you in Copenhagen. Jessica Castillo Operations & Project Coordinator ICANN | Human Resources & Finance Departments ----- End forwarded message ----- From egmorris1 at toast.net Thu Feb 16 03:42:14 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:42:14 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-FC] Agenda Message-ID: Attached please find the agenda for the NCSG Finance Committee face to face meeting to be held on Thursday February 16, 2017 at 09:00 UTC. I look forward to seeing al of you, FC members and observers, there either remotely or in person. Kind Regards, Ed Morris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Florian DANIEL Sonnenweg 6 4280 K?nigswiesen floriandaniel1995 at gmail.com +43660 36 80 504 <+43%20660%203680504> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Edward Morris wrote: > HI Rafik, > > Posted on the FC list here: > > https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-fc/2017-February/000076.html > > Best, > > Ed > > > > ------------------------------ > *From*: "Rafik Dammak" > *Sent*: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:59 AM > *To*: "Edward Morris" , "NCSG Finance Committee" < > ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> > *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-FC] Agenda > > Hi Ed, > > I cannot find any trace of the budget requests listed in the agenda. are > they NCSG requests or others? > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2017-02-16 10:42 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris : >> >> Attached please find the agenda for the NCSG Finance Committee face to >> face meeting to be held on Thursday February 16, 2017 at 09:00 UTC. >> >> I look forward to seeing al of you, FC members and observers, there >> either remotely or in person. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Ed Morris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-FC mailing list >> NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-FC mailing list > NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-fc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A big part of what the NCSG Charter tells us we're supposed to be doing on the FC is working with ICANN staff to ensure the NCSG receives fair financial treatment. Towards that end I have extended informal invitations to the ICANN CFO, the Chair of the Board Finance Committee and the BC's Finance Executive to attend the NCSG FC meeting and meet with us. In cooperation with the NCSG Chair, we were going to move the presentation by Xavier Calvez and staff to the FC meeting. None of this can happen because we have been slotted opposite the ONLY meeting in the six day conference in which all the people involved in finance in ICANN will be: including me as NCSG FC Chair! I need to be at the three hour budget meeting fighting for our interests! I do remind everyone that per the NCSG Charter we are required to attempt to meet at ICANN Meetings. It is not an option, it is not a luxury, it is required by the NCSG Charter. Is there any possibility of switching this time. 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URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Thu Feb 23 09:22:46 2017 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 07:22:46 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] F2F in Copenhagen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ed, I was off sick from the day before yesterday. I will consult with Glen, and get back to you. This wasn't so originally and yes, it's a concern. Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) T: +44 7737698036 S: maryam.bakoshi.icann On 23 Feb 2017, at 00:47, Edward Morris > wrote: MaryAm and Tapani, I have yet to receive a response regarding the time allowed for the NCSG FC meeting. I did, however, go online and found this schedule: https://schedule.icann.org We have been allocated 90 minutes directly opposite the Budget Working Group. Not acceptable. A big part of what the NCSG Charter tells us we're supposed to be doing on the FC is working with ICANN staff to ensure the NCSG receives fair financial treatment. Towards that end I have extended informal invitations to the ICANN CFO, the Chair of the Board Finance Committee and the BC's Finance Executive to attend the NCSG FC meeting and meet with us. In cooperation with the NCSG Chair, we were going to move the presentation by Xavier Calvez and staff to the FC meeting. None of this can happen because we have been slotted opposite the ONLY meeting in the six day conference in which all the people involved in finance in ICANN will be: including me as NCSG FC Chair! I need to be at the three hour budget meeting fighting for our interests! I do remind everyone that per the NCSG Charter we are required to attempt to meet at ICANN Meetings. It is not an option, it is not a luxury, it is required by the NCSG Charter. Is there any possibility of switching this time. Conflicts are inevitable. Are there any rooms available in the morning, earlier that afternoon, on a different day? Can we solve this problem? Thanks for considering. Ed _______________________________________________ NCSG-FC mailing list NCSG-FC at lists.ncsg.is https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ncsg.is_mailman_listinfo_ncsg-2Dfc&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=vK_slosiYKeugJDR9ZiQa9zW0i81aiMLq8Sjx-Vaohw&s=a8xtZIO_RfRnP0-iUW1MdS6L7RJQ-RZsq1nL-TDjhiE&e= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 at toast.net Thu Feb 23 12:33:15 2017 From: egmorris1 at toast.net (Edward Morris) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:33:15 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-FC] [Ext] F2F in Copenhagen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks MaryAm. I hope you are feeling better! Ed Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Feb 2017, at 07:22, Maryam Bakoshi wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > I was off sick from the day before yesterday. > > I will consult with Glen, and get back to you. This wasn't so originally and yes, it's a concern. > > Many thanks, > > Maryam Bakoshi > Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > T: +44 7737698036 > S: maryam.bakoshi.icann > > > On 23 Feb 2017, at 00:47, Edward Morris wrote: > >> MaryAm and Tapani, >> >> I have yet to receive a response regarding the time allowed for the NCSG FC meeting. I did, however, go online and found this schedule: >> >> https://schedule.icann.org >> >> We have been allocated 90 minutes directly opposite the Budget Working Group. Not acceptable. A big part of what the NCSG Charter tells us we're supposed to be doing on the FC is working with ICANN staff to ensure the NCSG receives fair financial treatment. Towards that end I have extended informal invitations to the ICANN CFO, the Chair of the Board Finance Committee and the BC's Finance Executive to attend the NCSG FC meeting and meet with us. In cooperation with the NCSG Chair, we were going to move the presentation by Xavier Calvez and staff to the FC meeting. None of this can happen because we have been slotted opposite the ONLY meeting in the six day conference in which all the people involved in finance in ICANN will be: including me as NCSG FC Chair! I need to be at the three hour budget meeting fighting for our interests! >> >> I do remind everyone that per the NCSG Charter we are required to attempt to meet at ICANN Meetings. It is not an option, it is not a luxury, it is required by the NCSG Charter. >> >> Is there any possibility of switching this time. Conflicts are inevitable. Are there any rooms available in the morning, earlier that afternoon, on a different day? 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Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) T: +44 7737698036 S: maryam.bakoshi.icann On 23 Feb 2017, at 10:33, Edward Morris > wrote: Thanks MaryAm. I hope you are feeling better! Ed Sent from my iPhone On 23 Feb 2017, at 07:22, Maryam Bakoshi > wrote: Hi Ed, I was off sick from the day before yesterday. I will consult with Glen, and get back to you. This wasn't so originally and yes, it's a concern. Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) T: +44 7737698036 S: maryam.bakoshi.icann On 23 Feb 2017, at 00:47, Edward Morris > wrote: MaryAm and Tapani, I have yet to receive a response regarding the time allowed for the NCSG FC meeting. I did, however, go online and found this schedule: https://schedule.icann.org[schedule.icann.org] We have been allocated 90 minutes directly opposite the Budget Working Group. Not acceptable. A big part of what the NCSG Charter tells us we're supposed to be doing on the FC is working with ICANN staff to ensure the NCSG receives fair financial treatment. Towards that end I have extended informal invitations to the ICANN CFO, the Chair of the Board Finance Committee and the BC's Finance Executive to attend the NCSG FC meeting and meet with us. In cooperation with the NCSG Chair, we were going to move the presentation by Xavier Calvez and staff to the FC meeting. None of this can happen because we have been slotted opposite the ONLY meeting in the six day conference in which all the people involved in finance in ICANN will be: including me as NCSG FC Chair! I need to be at the three hour budget meeting fighting for our interests! I do remind everyone that per the NCSG Charter we are required to attempt to meet at ICANN Meetings. It is not an option, it is not a luxury, it is required by the NCSG Charter. Is there any possibility of switching this time. 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