From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FC-NCSG mailing list
> FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg

-- 

*--------------------------------------------*
"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
----------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852

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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > FC-NCSG mailing list
> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>FC-NCSG mailing list
>FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg


From james  Thu Nov  3 03:23:58 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:23:58 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan
	and Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>

Are we using this list?

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget

Hi James,

do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?

Best,

Rafik

2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
Dear Community Members,

PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment process is here:

https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en

I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking questions seeking clarification of any details in the document. Please send questions to controller at icann.org<mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your responses. We will respond by 18 November.

As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
For the FY18 Planning Team
(Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo, Anand, Mishra)

_______________________________________________
community-finance mailing list
community-finance at icann.org<mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance


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From lanfran  Thu Nov  3 05:17:15 2016
From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:47:15 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
Message-ID: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>

What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN 
meeting, where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and 
then sets a November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th 
deadline for their responses?

On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> Are we using this list?
>
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net 
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and 
> Budget
>
> Hi James,
>
> do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org 
> <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>
>     Dear Community Members,
>
>     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>     process is here:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>
>     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>
>     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>     list.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Leo Vegoda
>
>     For the FY18 Planning Team
>
>     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>     Anand, Mishra)
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     community-finance mailing list
>     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ncsg  Thu Nov  3 05:22:35 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:52:35 +0530
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
Message-ID: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>

There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.

But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.

Tapani

On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:

> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
> responses?
> 
> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> > Are we using this list?
> > 
> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
> > Budget
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
> > 
> >     Dear Community Members,
> > 
> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
> >     process is here:
> > 
> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
> > 
> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
> > 
> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
> >     list.
> > 
> >     Kind regards,
> > 
> >     Leo Vegoda
> > 
> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
> > 
> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
> >     Anand, Mishra)
> > 
> > 
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     community-finance mailing list
> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> 
> *--------------------------------------------*
> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
> in an unjust state" -Confucius
> ----------------------------------------------
> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
> 



From james  Thu Nov  3 17:18:03 2016
From: james (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:18:03 +0000
Subject: [FC-NCSG] FW: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating
 Plan and Budget
In-Reply-To: <20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
References: <cab17bb70b8a479d9c9ea007ccc2893a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<CAH5sThkBq-5xhHWxfMmtAuKBgE70m9svm=niStVKzDQ=5WbTtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E2D7A30-D9E7-45E3-9087-F8694DD5A496@cyberinvasion.net>
	<581AAC3B.1070006@yorku.ca>
	<20161103032234.6tqkflyjzhp33iej@roller.tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <FBDEF9ED-0937-4AEB-A3BF-EBB6F613B7C4@cyberinvasion.net>

Agreed on scheduling.
Im about to board a plane out of Washington DC so will come back on this on the weekend if I can




On 02/11/2016, 23:22, "FC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <fc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org on behalf of ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:

>There's no logic in ICANN schedules that I can fathom.
>
>But to James' question, this list would be good for the purpose.
>
>Tapani
>
>On Nov 03 08:47, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>> What sort of logic publishes a draft budget just before an ICANN meeting,
>> where the next 7 days and travel eat up to about Nov 12th, and then sets a
>> November Nov 4th deadline for questions and a Nov 18th deadline for their
>> responses?
>> 
>> On 2016-11-03 6:53 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>> > Are we using this list?
>> > 
>> > From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> > Date: Monday 24 October 2016 at 19:25
>> > To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>> > <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [community-finance] PTI 's draft FY18 Operating Plan and
>> > Budget
>> > 
>> > Hi James,
>> > 
>> > do you think that the NCSG FC can take care of this?
>> > 
>> > Best,
>> > 
>> > Rafik
>> > 
>> > 2016-10-25 4:39 GMT+09:00 Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org
>> > <mailto:leo.vegoda at icann.org>>:
>> > 
>> >     Dear Community Members,
>> > 
>> >     PTI?s draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget was published earlier
>> >     today for Public Comment. The page describing the Public Comment
>> >     process is here:
>> > 
>> >     https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en
>> >     <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/fy18-pti-operating-plan-budget-2016-10-24-en>
>> > 
>> >     I?d like to draw your attention to the process for asking
>> >     questions seeking clarification of any details in the document.
>> >     Please send questions to controller at icann.org
>> >     <mailto:controller at icann.org> by 4 November so that we can provide
>> >     you answers in good time for you to make use for them in your
>> >     responses. We will respond by 18 November.
>> > 
>> >     As we did for ICANN?s FY17 plans, we will publish the questions
>> >     and our responses in the Comment Forum. We will also write to this
>> >     list.
>> > 
>> >     Kind regards,
>> > 
>> >     Leo Vegoda
>> > 
>> >     For the FY18 Planning Team
>> > 
>> >     (Becky Nash, Taryn Presley, Kirsten Wattson, Jessica Castillo,
>> >     Anand, Mishra)
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     community-finance mailing list
>> >     community-finance at icann.org <mailto:community-finance at icann.org>
>> >     https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance
>> >     <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/community-finance>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > FC-NCSG mailing list
>> > FC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/fc-ncsg
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> *--------------------------------------------*
>> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
>> in an unjust state" -Confucius
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> YorkU email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
>> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852
>> 
>
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