[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Joint sessions with ALAC and SSAC

Mon Jul 27 15:10:06 EEST 2026

INTERNAL

Hi Farzaneh,

I think it depends on what we want to get out of the discussion and if we have something more specific to discuss. If you have something in mind, happy for the conversation to go forward in Bali - I'll never oppose more time to discuss remedy 🙂

Best,

Michaela
Michaela Nakayama Shapiro (she/her/hers)
Programme Officer - Censorship

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Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Joint sessions with ALAC and SSAC

Hi

I think it’s harmless to talk to SSAC about remedy too. Their work directly affects it. But since Michaela will be co-leading I let her decide :)

Farzaneh

On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 7:52 AM Michaela Nakayama Shapiro <michaela.shapiro at article19.org<mailto:michaela.shapiro at article19.org>> wrote:
INTERNAL

Hi Rafik,

Agree with Farzaneh that DNS abuse and remedy for abuse mitigation action are strong topics to discuss with ALAC. On SSAC, I don't have anything for the agenda so would suggest rescheduling for a future meeting.

Best,

Michaela
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From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> on behalf of farzaneh badii via NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
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Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Joint sessions with ALAC and SSAC

Hi Rafik

We are working on the topic of remedy. So we want to go around and tell different stakeholders what we mean by that. Lets make these meetings about remedy.

Farzaneh

On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 10:08 PM Rafik Dammak via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Any suggestion for topic other than DNS abuse?
If we don't we can drop having those sessions for ICANN87.

Best,

Rafik

On Tue, Jul 21, 2026, 14:26 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Juan for the comment.
yes ALAC has interest in DNS abuse , but I think we might have divergence. Anyway, it can be a good opportunity to discuss and present our side in a constructive manner.

Rafik

Le lun. 20 juil. 2026 à 05:06, Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi at yahoo.com<mailto:jumaropi at yahoo.com>> a écrit :
Hi Rafik,
Thanks for sharing this with us.

I think the topic for ALAC could be DNS Abuse mitigation. I have seen some concerns they have about it and I think we could discuss with them and even if we don't agree could be an interesting discussion.

My two cents,

On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 16:42, Rafik Dammak via NCSG-PC
<ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
Hi all,

I asked ALAC and SSAC about scheduling  joint sessions but they need to get topics first.

For ALAC, we can discuss Review of Reviews of we have strong interest. We can bring the topic of DNS abuse while we might have divergent viewpoints. Anything else.

For SSAC, we had HRIA explanation in last session and there was some reaction. I don't know if we should have follow-up. Is there any other topic we should consider?

If we don't have strong interest, we might reconsider scheduling those joint sessions.

Best,

Rafik
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