[NCSG-EC] [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal

Mon Jan 27 02:45:36 EET 2025

Hello Rafik,
Thanks for the information.

On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 12:44 am Rafik Dammak, <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Milton will prepare the form for the payment he usually uses for PIR, but
> you can reach him out about the process and/or check with Ajith.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> Le ven. 24 janv. 2025 à 23:35, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Rafik!
>>
>> Do we already have the bank account data, or should I ask Milton directly?
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>> Researcher
>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
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>> Em qui., 23 de jan. de 2025 às 18:15, Rafik Dammak <
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We can use the NCUC bank account as I discussed with Milton.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:45 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>
>>>> I got the task to follow up with him. I will share updates in coming
>>>> days.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 22:37 Pedro de Perdigão Lana via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so we can follow up with Ajith - do we have an answer from Milton
>>>>> regarding the bank account?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (
>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/> e CC
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 20:30, Wisdom Donkor <
>>>>> wisdom.dk at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Caleb and Pedro. It’s now essential to standardize all our
>>>>>> financial and accounting processes. I had a brief chat with Milton in
>>>>>> Riyadh and mentioned that we would be reaching out to him for discussions
>>>>>> on the financials and also to have that as part of our reporting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik can reach out to him either to arrange for a meeting or
>>>>>> get an update from him.
>>>>>> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,)
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:16 PM Caleb Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From what I understand, Milton handles that bank account and there
>>>>>>> is also another signatory. While that is as it may, I Wisdom or former NCUC
>>>>>>> Chair can provide information.
>>>>>>> However, I think Rafik mentioned he willask Milton so that would
>>>>>>> solve it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 2:55 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way, can someone clarify to me what is the actual status of
>>>>>>>> this bank account, so I can properly answer Ajith regarding this point? I
>>>>>>>> don't know if it is directly related to the NCUC or if it is under Milton's
>>>>>>>> name, and then he administers it for the non-commercial community when
>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 17:41, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Rafik, I'll answer Ajith first thing on Monday, and we can
>>>>>>>>> plan the initial workflow at our EC meeting. Should I message Milton, or
>>>>>>>>> would it be better for you or Wisdom to do it, considering you are the
>>>>>>>>> directly related chairs here?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Juan and Wisdom that this can be watched by NCSG FC
>>>>>>>>> (which will be have a task similar to an internal audit committee, as far
>>>>>>>>> as I understand).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA
>>>>>>>>> <https://ioda.org.br/> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>> <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em sáb., 4 de jan. de 2025 às 10:31, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I think what is suggested by Ajith is fine and we can
>>>>>>>>>> respond quickly to that. For the bank account, we can check with Milton, it
>>>>>>>>>> is not an optimal situation but it can be the workaround for now.  We
>>>>>>>>>> should share this with NCSG EC then the PC. at least it will be on the
>>>>>>>>>> agenda of the EC call next week.
>>>>>>>>>> About the other points, we can work on them and define a timeline
>>>>>>>>>> for the delivery and write the scope of work for the fellow and how to
>>>>>>>>>> follow-up for progress (I guess possible task for me to prepare a
>>>>>>>>>> strawperson proposal and share it). The policy topics being collected are
>>>>>>>>>> just started and will be refined and consultation will be continuous.
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Finance Committee, we are still at the stage of formation and
>>>>>>>>>> resuming its activities but it will be in the loop and informed about this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 3 janv. 2025 à 23:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>>>>>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Happy new year! I was mostly off during the holidays, but coming
>>>>>>>>>>> back to action today. I am also adding Amin to the loop, considering his
>>>>>>>>>>> (now official) appointment to the NCSG EC.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with everything that Ajith said. Do you agree with his
>>>>>>>>>>> last message, so we can proceed? We will probably need to receive the
>>>>>>>>>>> funding through the NCUC (NCSG does not have a bank account, right?), so we
>>>>>>>>>>> would also need to confirm details with Milton.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After that, if you all believe this would be a good idea, we
>>>>>>>>>>> possibly would also need an expanded NCSG leadership meeting to define the
>>>>>>>>>>> topics that were left to be decided on after the approval of the project
>>>>>>>>>>> (selection process, what would be our priority topics (do we ask the
>>>>>>>>>>> community? do we use the list already formed in the email Rafik send about
>>>>>>>>>>> policy priorities?), how would be the fellow relation with non-commercial
>>>>>>>>>>> leadership, etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF <https://youthlacigf.lat/>, IODA
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ioda.org.br/> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em qui., 2 de jan. de 2025 às 02:51, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you a very happy New Year!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you had a good start to the new year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am writing to you with good news. We're happy to move forward
>>>>>>>>>>>> with this project plan but could I suggest a few minor changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, we will disburse the lumpsum funds directly to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> NCSG as we have always done and the NCSG would have to allocate and make
>>>>>>>>>>>> payments. Secondly, PIR would not be able to provide in-kind support for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the technical infrastructure. If you prefer, you can allocate an additional
>>>>>>>>>>>> nominal sum to the project plan to take it to USD7000. In addition, a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>> report (a few pages max) would be expected for us to know how the funds
>>>>>>>>>>>> were utilized and provide a summary of the progress made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If these points are okay with the NCSG, we can plan to proceed
>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quéralt <JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and kind words, Ajith, and no problem in
>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting on our side - you were already very patient with us during this
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wishing you happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>>>>>>>>>>> (UCoimbra),
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> e CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/oe3JCmZg1yCDr6qi3FlIR3TWg?domain=br.creativecommons.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 18 de dez. de 2024 às 10:15, Ajith Francis <
>>>>>>>>>>>> afrancis at pir.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for sending this over. This looks great and
>>>>>>>>>>>> promising.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to run this internally and get back to you. But just
>>>>>>>>>>>> a heads up that there is a chance you may only hear back from me early in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new year as many folks are PIR are taking extended breaks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ajith
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Ajith Francis <afrancis at PIR.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Rafik Dammak <Rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Juan Manuel Rojas
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jumaropi at yahoo.com>; Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>; Jean F.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quéralt <JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] NCSG Project Proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *CAUTION: This email came from outside your organization. Don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> trust emails, links, or attachments from senders that seem suspicious or
>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not expecting.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajith,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding the final version of the proposal. All the ECs
>>>>>>>>>>>> (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) have already reviewed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ~33h delay in sending it, couldn't finish the
>>>>>>>>>>>> text yesterday due to a few things that are happening here in Brazil and
>>>>>>>>>>>> are occupying a lot of my time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if there are any doubts or if any
>>>>>>>>>>>> complement/rectification is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lawyer
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/YU-9C820GEtLKQgfnfYIy4H3U?domain=nic.br/>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/TEhKC9rPJgH9pxjFEh2Iq4cP8?domain=gedai.com.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>>>>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC BR
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Be_EC0RPwLiZL4zF2i0I990H-?domain=isoc.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> , NCUC
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Rv6pCgJNR2fp7NJu3sZI4a0RI?domain=ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> & NCSG
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qhVUCjRNX8iPvA0i1tYImHWwR?domain=community.icann.org>(ICANN),
>>>>>>>>>>>> YouthLACIGF
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rR_fCkRNY7i1p4vh8uNIGyBbK?domain=youthlacigf.lat/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> , IODA
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/65YBClYNZ7CpvkluVCkIz0IMm?domain=ioda.org.br/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and CC Brasil
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://url.us.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/oe3JCmZg1yCDr6qi3FlIR3TWg?domain=br.creativecommons.net/>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
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