From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 15:36:15 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:36:15 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 In-Reply-To: <1c39a5a9-5589-4fcd-bdb2-3777ddba1890@Julf.com> References: <599D1663-3954-40F4-A3F1-8308B4240167@icann.org> <1c39a5a9-5589-4fcd-bdb2-3777ddba1890@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Would it be possible to merge proposals 1 and 3? ALAC's proposal apparently overlaps quite a bit with the "Geopolitical, Legislative, and Regulatory Developments Update", and ccNSO's seems a bit repetitive, even if the idea is exactly to consolidate what is being built during the year. Maybe joining those (something along the lines of "ICANN's role towards new Internet Infrastructures being proposed nationally and internationally") would result in a very interesting session. IPC's proposal is too specific, aiming to bring a concern of their constituency to be debated by the whole community, and RrSG is too wide (it looks more like a proposal for an outreach video than a Community Session) *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR ) Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , IODA e CC Brasil . Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por engano, favor responder informando o erro. Em qua., 31 de jul. de 2024 ?s 09:28, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escreveu: > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT NEEDED > ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:51:07 +0000 > From: Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning > > Reply-To: Nathalie Peregrine > To: soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org > > > > > **With additional RrSG topic added, and extended deadline 7^th August > 20:00 UTC, thank you to Alejandra and Justine for the suggestion!** > > Dear all, > > The deadline for topic suggestions regarding the ICANN81 Community > Session has now passed. You may have seen three proposals circulated on > this mailing list. I have posted them below in order of submission. > > In order to finalize the choice of topic, we would like to invite ICANN > community leaders to submit their choices via the mailing list by > responding to these two questions: > > 1. Which topic is your group most interested in? /(Please bear in mind > that ?none? is also an acceptable response)/ > 2. Would this topic engage your group to the point of taking part in > the organization of the session? > > Kindly respond by _Wednesday 7 August 2024 2000 UTC._ > > __ > > Thank you all! > > ** > > 1. *ccNSO Proposal* > > The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 meeting > to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the WSIS+20 > Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) can do to > help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, and the > broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, during the Review. > > ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons learned in the > GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for the role > ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in 2024 and > 2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should be well > developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN community > around the role it can play in this important work. > > The main outcomes of such a session should be that: > > * The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic approach to > the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual organisations and > communities can play > * The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can play as > part of the Review > > A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight about where > the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the Geopolitical > session. > > 2. *IPC Proposal* > > _Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms > > _Aim:_ To hold a general discussion across the community about the > ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for > Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in order to > elicit views on whether: > > * these mechanisms are fit for purpose > * there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner in which > these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws. For example: > o do the standing and grounds requirements for either mechanism > serve to exclude legitimate access by those that the community > intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs > o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of complainant who > were not intended by the community to have access to them > o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and unambiguous. > * there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and potential > revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, whether there > is a sufficient support from the community to convene a CCWG to work > on this. > > _Brief Background:_ > > On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with the GNSO > Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the IRP, as > presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential claimant who > were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an > unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process. Board > Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion on this. > > At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency recently > brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have had the > effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the > Bylaws-mandated process for doing so. The IPC?s RFR was summarily > dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed by such a > Board action. > > The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate the IPC?s > ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is currently in the > Co-Operative Engagement Process. Rather, we believe that both examples > demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side and on the > Community side, with these important accountability mechanisms which > were revised as a result of the cross community work on Accountability > in the context of the IANA Transition. We believe this is an > appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms meet the > community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from a more > formal review and revision. > > ** > > *3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal* > > > _Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, Geopolitics, > International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. > > _Objective/Aims_: > To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international law, and > emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the reshaping of > the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet > infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will reference the > 2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy Strategy, > EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2. This session is crucial for end users, > regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, academics, and > other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It emphasizes > the link between infrastructure governance and data management from the > end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric > approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. > > _Proposed Speakers_: > > - Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer > - Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member > - Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International Relations Team at > the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland > - Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum > - Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of > Commerce, NTIA > - Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University of London, > Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster > - John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer > > _Moderator:_ Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC > > _Scoping Questions_: > > 1. How should the multistakeholder model evolve to accommodate new > internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in governance? > 2. What are the primary governance challenges posed by the > development of new internet infrastructures and governance models? > 3. How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the AI Act, and > NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented by new > internet infrastructures and respective governance models? > > > _Expected Outcomes_: > > > - A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities > presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory shift > towards them - MSM implications. > - Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including the MSM, > can adapt to these emerging technologies. > - Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of multistakeholder > Internet governance. > > 4. *RrSG Proposal* > > ** > > RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s Journey > > Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her Registrant > Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and use of her > new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show > /Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for registration > data submission and publication, phishing emails and deceptive notices, > and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new registrar, or > even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will Sophia?s > journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to help her > decide what to do at each important step in the process. > > /This session takes attendees through important aspects of the domain > name lifecycle, covering registration data collection requirements, > choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to the domain > owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of > ownership data. Attendees will gain a greater understanding of the > industry landscape and domain owner experience. / > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Aug 1 17:36:28 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:36:28 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic In-Reply-To: <36B6B3A2-3E9C-480E-8AB6-2B4581492CA4@icann.org> References: <36B6B3A2-3E9C-480E-8AB6-2B4581492CA4@icann.org> Message-ID: Opinions welcome. Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Re: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:02:44 +0000 From: Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning Reply-To: Nathalie Peregrine To: soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org Hello all, Thank you to those who provided input! You will be shortly be receiving calendar invitations for a second Production Call next week. In order to ensure the Production Call closes on an agreement on the topic for the Community Session, please find below the proposed agenda and relevant action items to prepare for the call. *Agenda* 1. Q&A on Community Topic proposals 2. Vote via hands raised in Zoom (please note if unable to attend, it will be possible to vote via the mailing list as suggested in my previous email). *Action Items for all:* * Kindly socialize the below topics to your community members as soon as possible encouraging them to submit feedback in the form of comments or questions. * Please circulate the comments and questions ahead of time on the planning mailing list in order for the Q&A to be as efficient as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you all on the this thread as well as on the call next week! Kind regards, Nathalie ** 1. *ccNSO Proposal* The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 meeting to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the WSIS+20 Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) can do to help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, and the broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, during the Review. ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons learned in the GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for the role ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in 2024 and 2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should be well developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN community around the role it can play in this important work. The main outcomes of such a session should be that: * The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic approach to the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual organisations and communities can play * The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can play as part of the Review A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight about where the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the Geopolitical session. 2. *IPC Proposal* _Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms _Aim:_? To hold a general discussion across the community about the ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in order to elicit views on whether: * these mechanisms are fit for purpose * there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner in which these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws.? For example: o do the standing and grounds requirements for either mechanism serve to exclude legitimate access by those that the community intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of complainant who were not intended by the community to have access to them o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and unambiguous. * there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and potential revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, whether there is a sufficient support from the community to convene a CCWG to work on this. _Brief Background:_ On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with the GNSO Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the IRP, as presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential claimant who were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process. ?Board Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion on this. At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency recently brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have had the effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the Bylaws-mandated process for doing so.? The IPC?s RFR was summarily dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed by such a Board action. The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate the IPC?s ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is currently in the Co-Operative Engagement Process.? Rather, we believe that both examples demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side and on the Community side, with these important accountability mechanisms which were revised as a result of the cross community work on Accountability in the context of the IANA Transition.? We believe this is an appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms meet the community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from a more formal review and revision. ** *3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal* _Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, Geopolitics, International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. _Objective/Aims_: To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international law, and emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the reshaping of the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will reference the 2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy Strategy, EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2.?This session is crucial for end users, regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, academics, and other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It emphasizes the link between infrastructure governance and data management from the end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. _Proposed Speakers_: ?- Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer ?- Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member ?- Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International Relations Team at the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland ?- Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum ?- Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of Commerce, NTIA ?- Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University of London, Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster ?- John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer _Moderator:_?Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC _Scoping Questions_: 1. ?How should the multistakeholder model evolve to accommodate new internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in governance? 2. ?What are the primary governance challenges posed by the development of new internet infrastructures and governance models? 3. ?How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented by new internet infrastructures and respective governance models? _Expected Outcomes_: - A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory shift towards them - MSM implications. - Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including the MSM, can adapt to these emerging technologies. - Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of multistakeholder Internet governance. 4. *RrSG Proposal* ** RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s Journey Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her Registrant Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and use of her new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show /Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for registration data submission and publication, phishing emails and deceptive notices, and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new registrar, or even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will Sophia?s journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to help her decide what to do at each important step in the process. /This session takes attendees through important aspects of the domain name lifecycle, covering registration data collection requirements, choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to the domain owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of ownership data. Attendees will gain a greater understanding of the industry landscape and domain owner experience. / ** From julf at Julf.com Thu Aug 1 18:28:38 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:28:38 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Re: [Gac-leadership] Re: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7c7153ec-1dc9-4f9c-86c7-7a34ac82a272@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Re: [Gac-leadership] Re: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 10:47:04 -0400 From: Nicolas Caballero via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning Reply-To: Nicolas Caballero To: Nathalie Peregrine , Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning Hello Nathalie, dear colleagues, Thank you for this; I hope this email finds you well. As regarding proposal nr. 3, please do not include Susan Chalmers (NTIA and GAC Rep USA) on the list, as according to her, she was never asked or agreed, and as a matter of fact the US delegation does not support this proposal. On the other hand, regarding GAC Switzerland (Jorge Cancio), I haven?t had the chance to directly talk to him, given the fact that he is still on vacation (just in case, in order to avoid any confusion) so as to make sure he: a) was actually asked about this, for sure; and b) there is full support from the Swiss Government. Having said that, I do not mean the GAC officially supports - or not - any of the proposals kindly sent, until we can get together and decide on the topic with the respective GAC Representatives. Thank you again. Best regards, Nico Nicolas G. Caballero GAC Chair ICANN El jue, 1 ago 2024 a las 5:33, Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning via gac-leadership (>) escribi?: Hello all,____ __ __ Thank you to those who provided input!____ __ __ You will be shortly be receiving calendar invitations for a second Production Call next week. ____ __ __ In order to ensure the Production Call closes on an agreement on the topic for the Community Session, please find below the proposed agenda and relevant action items to prepare for the call.____ __ __ *Agenda____* 1. Q&A on Community Topic proposals____ 2. Vote via hands raised in Zoom (please note if unable to attend, it will be possible to vote via the mailing list as suggested in my previous email).____ __ __ *Action Items for all:____* * Kindly socialize the below topics to your community members as soon as possible encouraging them to submit feedback in the form of comments or questions. ____ * Please circulate the comments and questions ahead of time on the planning mailing list in order for the Q&A to be as efficient as possible. ____ __ __ Looking forward to hearing from you all on the this thread as well as on the call next week!____ __ __ Kind regards,____ __ __ Nathalie____ __ __ *__ __* 1. *ccNSO Proposal____* The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 meeting to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the WSIS+20 Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) can do to help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, and the broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, during the Review. ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons learned in the GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for the role ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in 2024 and 2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should be well developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN community around the role it can play in this important work. The main outcomes of such a session should be that:____ * The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic approach to the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual organisations and communities can play____ * The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can play as part of the Review____ A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight about where the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the Geopolitical session.____ __ __ __ __ 2. *IPC Proposal____* _Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms____ ____ _Aim:_? To hold a general discussion across the community about the ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in order to elicit views on whether:____ * these mechanisms are fit for purpose____ * there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner in which these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws.? For example: ____ o do the standing and grounds requirements for either mechanism serve to exclude legitimate access by those that the community intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs ____ o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of complainant who were not intended by the community to have access to them____ o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and unambiguous.____ * there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and potential revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, whether there is a sufficient support from the community to convene a CCWG to work on this.____ ____ _Brief Background:_____ On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with the GNSO Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the IRP, as presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential claimant who were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process.? Board Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion on this.____ ____ At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency recently brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have had the effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the Bylaws-mandated process for doing so.? The IPC?s RFR was summarily dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed by such a Board action.____ ____ The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate the IPC?s ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is currently in the Co-Operative Engagement Process.? Rather, we believe that both examples demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side and on the Community side, with these important accountability mechanisms which were revised as a result of the cross community work on Accountability in the context of the IANA Transition.? We believe this is an appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms meet the community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from a more formal review and revision.____ __ __ *__ __* *3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal____* _Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, Geopolitics, International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. _Objective/Aims_: To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international law, and emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the reshaping of the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will reference the 2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy Strategy, EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2.?This session is crucial for end users, regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, academics, and other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It emphasizes the link between infrastructure governance and data management from the end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. _Proposed Speakers_:____ ?- Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer ?- Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member ?- Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International Relations Team at the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland ?- Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum ?- Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of Commerce, NTIA ?- Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University of London, Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster ?- John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer _Moderator:_?Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC _Scoping Questions_:____ 1. ?How should the multistakeholder model evolve to accommodate new internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in governance?____ 2. ?What are the primary governance challenges posed by the development of new internet infrastructures and governance models?____ 3. ?How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented by new internet infrastructures and respective governance models?____ _Expected Outcomes_:____ - A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory shift towards them - MSM implications. - Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including the MSM, can adapt to these emerging technologies. - Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of multistakeholder Internet governance.____ 4. *RrSG Proposal____* *__ __* RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s Journey____ ____ Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her Registrant Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and use of her new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show /Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for registration data submission and publication, phishing emails and deceptive notices, and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new registrar, or even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will Sophia?s journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to help her decide what to do at each important step in the process.____ ____ /This session takes attendees through important aspects of the domain name lifecycle, covering registration data collection requirements, choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to the domain owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of ownership data. 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You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. From julf at Julf.com Sat Aug 3 11:16:43 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 10:16:43 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 In-Reply-To: References: <599D1663-3954-40F4-A3F1-8308B4240167@icann.org> <1c39a5a9-5589-4fcd-bdb2-3777ddba1890@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Pedro - good comments. I can try to suggest some sort of merger of 1 and 3, but not sure what is possible at this point. Julf On 01/08/2024 14:36, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Would it be possible to merge proposals 1 and 3? ALAC's proposal > apparently overlaps quite a bit with the "Geopolitical, Legislative, and > Regulatory Developments Update", and ccNSO's seems a bit repetitive, > even if the idea is exactly to consolidate what is being built during > the year. Maybe joining those (something along the lines of "ICANN's > role towards new Internet Infrastructures being proposed nationally and > internationally") would result in a very interesting session. > > IPC's proposal is too specific, aiming to bring a concern of their > constituency to be debated by the whole community, and RrSG is too wide > (it looks more like a proposal for an outreach video than a Community > Session) > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > ) > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , IODA e CC Brasil > . > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > Em qua., 31 de jul. de 2024 ?s 09:28, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > escreveu: > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject:? ? ? ? [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT > NEEDED > ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 > Date:? ?Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:51:07 +0000 > From:? ?Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning > > > Reply-To:? ? ? ?Nathalie Peregrine > > To: soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org > > > > > > > **With additional RrSG topic added, and extended deadline 7^th August > 20:00 UTC, thank you to Alejandra and Justine for the suggestion!** > > Dear all, > > The deadline for topic suggestions regarding the ICANN81 Community > Session has now passed. You may have seen three proposals circulated on > this mailing list. I have posted them below in order of submission. > > In order to finalize the choice of topic, we would like to invite ICANN > community leaders ?to submit their choices via the mailing list by > responding to these two questions: > > ? 1. Which topic is your group most interested in? /(Please bear in > mind > ? ? ?that ?none? is also an acceptable response)/ > ? 2. Would this topic engage your group to the point of taking part in > ? ? ?the organization of the session? > > Kindly respond by _Wednesday 7 August 2024 2000 UTC._ > > __ > > Thank you all! > > ** > > ? 1. *ccNSO Proposal* > > The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 > meeting > to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the WSIS+20 > Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) can do to > help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, and the > broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, during the > Review. > > ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons learned in > the > GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for the role > ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in 2024 and > 2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should be well > developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN community > around the role it can play in this important work. > > The main outcomes of such a session should be that: > > ? ?* The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic > approach to > ? ? ?the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual organisations and > ? ? ?communities can play > ? ?* The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can > play as > ? ? ?part of the Review > > A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight about where > the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the > Geopolitical > session. > > ? 2. *IPC Proposal* > > _Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms > > _Aim:_? To hold a general discussion across the community about the > ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for > Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in order to > elicit views on whether: > > ? ?* these mechanisms are fit for purpose > ? ?* there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner in which > ? ? ?these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws.? For example: > ? ? ? ?o do the standing and grounds requirements for either mechanism > ? ? ? ? ?serve to exclude legitimate access by those that the community > ? ? ? ? ?intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs > ? ? ? ?o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of > complainant who > ? ? ? ? ?were not intended by the community to have access to them > ? ? ? ?o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and unambiguous. > ? ?* there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and potential > ? ? ?revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, whether > there > ? ? ?is a sufficient support from the community to convene a CCWG > to work > ? ? ?on this. > > _Brief Background:_ > > On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with the GNSO > Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the IRP, as > presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential claimant who > were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an > unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process.? Board > Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion on this. > > At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency > recently > brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have had the > effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the > Bylaws-mandated process for doing so.? The IPC?s RFR was summarily > dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed by such a > Board action. > > The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate the IPC?s > ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is currently in the > Co-Operative Engagement Process.? Rather, we believe that both examples > demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side and on > the > Community side, with these important accountability mechanisms which > were revised as a result of the cross community work on Accountability > in the context of the IANA Transition.? We believe this is an > appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms meet the > community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from a more > formal review and revision. > > ** > > *3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal* > > > _Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, Geopolitics, > International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. > > _Objective/Aims_: > To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international law, and > emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the reshaping of > the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet > infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will reference the > 2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy Strategy, > EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2.?This session is crucial for end users, > regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, academics, and > other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It emphasizes > the link between infrastructure governance and data management from the > end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric > approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. > > _Proposed Speakers_: > > ? ?- Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer > ? ?- Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member > ? ?- Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International Relations Team at > the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland > ? ?- Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum > ? ?- Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of > Commerce, NTIA > ? ?- Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University of London, > Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster > ? ?- John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer > > _Moderator:_?Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC > > _Scoping Questions_: > > ? 1.? ?How should the multistakeholder model evolve to accommodate new > ? ? ?internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in governance? > ? 2.? ?What are the primary governance challenges posed by the > ? ? ?development of new internet infrastructures and governance models? > ? 3.? ?How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the AI Act, and > ? ? ?NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented by new > ? ? ?internet infrastructures and respective governance models? > > > _Expected Outcomes_: > > > - A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities > presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory shift > towards them - MSM implications. > - Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including the MSM, > can adapt to these emerging technologies. > - Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of > multistakeholder > Internet governance. > > ? 4. *RrSG Proposal* > > ** > > RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s Journey > > Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her Registrant > Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and use of > her > new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show > /Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for > registration > data submission and publication, phishing emails and deceptive notices, > and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new registrar, or > even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will Sophia?s > journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to help her > decide what to do at each important step in the process. > > /This session takes attendees through important aspects of the domain > name lifecycle, covering registration data collection requirements, > choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to the domain > owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of > ownership data. Attendees will gain a greater understanding of the > industry landscape and domain owner experience. / > > ** > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Tue Aug 6 00:54:06 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 18:54:06 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 In-Reply-To: References: <599D1663-3954-40F4-A3F1-8308B4240167@icann.org> <1c39a5a9-5589-4fcd-bdb2-3777ddba1890@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Seeing the messages in the other mail chain about this same subject, I would like to highlight that I currently work for a ccTLD. My involvement in ICANN and in the NCSG precedes this job and I do not represent NIC.br in ICANN work, but even then this could represent some level of conflict of interest. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em s?b., 3 de ago. de 2024 ?s 05:16, Johan Helsingius escreveu: > Hi Pedro - good comments. I can try to suggest some sort of merger of > 1 and 3, but not sure what is possible at this point. > > Julf > > > On 01/08/2024 14:36, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Would it be possible to merge proposals 1 and 3? ALAC's proposal > > apparently overlaps quite a bit with the "Geopolitical, Legislative, and > > Regulatory Developments Update", and ccNSO's seems a bit repetitive, > > even if the idea is exactly to consolidate what is being built during > > the year. Maybe joining those (something along the lines of "ICANN's > > role towards new Internet Infrastructures being proposed nationally and > > internationally") would result in a very interesting session. > > > > IPC's proposal is too specific, aiming to bring a concern of their > > constituency to be debated by the whole community, and RrSG is too wide > > (it looks more like a proposal for an outreach video than a Community > > Session) > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > > ) > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > > , IODA e CC Brasil > > . > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > Em qua., 31 de jul. de 2024 ?s 09:28, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT > > NEEDED > > ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 > > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:51:07 +0000 > > From: Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning > > > > > > Reply-To: Nathalie Peregrine > > > > To: soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **With additional RrSG topic added, and extended deadline 7^th August > > 20:00 UTC, thank you to Alejandra and Justine for the suggestion!** > > > > Dear all, > > > > The deadline for topic suggestions regarding the ICANN81 Community > > Session has now passed. You may have seen three proposals circulated > on > > this mailing list. I have posted them below in order of submission. > > > > In order to finalize the choice of topic, we would like to invite > ICANN > > community leaders to submit their choices via the mailing list by > > responding to these two questions: > > > > 1. Which topic is your group most interested in? /(Please bear in > > mind > > that ?none? is also an acceptable response)/ > > 2. Would this topic engage your group to the point of taking part > in > > the organization of the session? > > > > Kindly respond by _Wednesday 7 August 2024 2000 UTC._ > > > > __ > > > > Thank you all! > > > > ** > > > > 1. *ccNSO Proposal* > > > > The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 > > meeting > > to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the WSIS+20 > > Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) can do to > > help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, and the > > broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, during the > > Review. > > > > ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons learned in > > the > > GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for the role > > ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in 2024 > and > > 2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should be well > > developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN > community > > around the role it can play in this important work. > > > > The main outcomes of such a session should be that: > > > > * The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic > > approach to > > the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual organisations and > > communities can play > > * The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can > > play as > > part of the Review > > > > A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight about > where > > the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the > > Geopolitical > > session. > > > > 2. *IPC Proposal* > > > > _Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms > > > > _Aim:_ To hold a general discussion across the community about the > > ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for > > Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in order > to > > elicit views on whether: > > > > * these mechanisms are fit for purpose > > * there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner in > which > > these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws. For example: > > o do the standing and grounds requirements for either > mechanism > > serve to exclude legitimate access by those that the > community > > intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs > > o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of > > complainant who > > were not intended by the community to have access to them > > o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and unambiguous. > > * there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and potential > > revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, whether > > there > > is a sufficient support from the community to convene a CCWG > > to work > > on this. > > > > _Brief Background:_ > > > > On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with the > GNSO > > Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the IRP, as > > presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential claimant who > > were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an > > unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process. Board > > Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion on this. > > > > At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency > > recently > > brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have had the > > effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the > > Bylaws-mandated process for doing so. The IPC?s RFR was summarily > > dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed by such a > > Board action. > > > > The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate the IPC?s > > ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is currently in > the > > Co-Operative Engagement Process. Rather, we believe that both > examples > > demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side and on > > the > > Community side, with these important accountability mechanisms which > > were revised as a result of the cross community work on > Accountability > > in the context of the IANA Transition. We believe this is an > > appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms meet the > > community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from a more > > formal review and revision. > > > > ** > > > > *3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal* > > > > > > _Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, > Geopolitics, > > International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. > > > > _Objective/Aims_: > > To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international law, and > > emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the reshaping > of > > the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet > > infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will reference > the > > 2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy > Strategy, > > EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2. This session is crucial for end > users, > > regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, academics, > and > > other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It > emphasizes > > the link between infrastructure governance and data management from > the > > end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric > > approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. > > > > _Proposed Speakers_: > > > > - Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer > > - Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member > > - Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International Relations Team > at > > the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland > > - Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum > > - Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of > > Commerce, NTIA > > - Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University of > London, > > Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster > > - John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer > > > > _Moderator:_ Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC > > > > _Scoping Questions_: > > > > 1. How should the multistakeholder model evolve to accommodate > new > > internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in > governance? > > 2. What are the primary governance challenges posed by the > > development of new internet infrastructures and governance > models? > > 3. How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the AI Act, > and > > NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented by new > > internet infrastructures and respective governance models? > > > > > > _Expected Outcomes_: > > > > > > - A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and opportunities > > presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory shift > > towards them - MSM implications. > > - Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including the MSM, > > can adapt to these emerging technologies. > > - Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of > > multistakeholder > > Internet governance. > > > > 4. *RrSG Proposal* > > > > ** > > > > RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s Journey > > > > Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her > Registrant > > Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and use of > > her > > new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show > > /Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for > > registration > > data submission and publication, phishing emails and deceptive > notices, > > and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new registrar, or > > even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will Sophia?s > > journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to help her > > decide what to do at each important step in the process. > > > > /This session takes attendees through important aspects of the domain > > name lifecycle, covering registration data collection requirements, > > choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to the > domain > > owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of > > ownership data. Attendees will gain a greater understanding of the > > industry landscape and domain owner experience. / > > > > ** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Aug 6 12:25:43 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 11:25:43 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32145614-c62d-4ed3-a3b9-f7692d7cd2ea@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:03:20 +0000 From: Mary Wong To: Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie) , Sally Costerton , Carlos Reyes , Andrea Glandon CC: Johan Helsingius Dear Mason and Julf, With thanks for your patience and understanding, we?ve discussed the budget, requirements and needs with our colleagues from the Meetings and other teams that support the ICANN Public Meetings. I?m very pleased to inform you that we believe we will be able to support the Non-Contracted Parties House (NCPH) Day Zero event request, as outlined in your proposal. Carlos and his team will be in touch with you shortly, to work out the finer details as to the program and logistics, as well as to formalize and finalize the support needs for this meeting. Thank you for your continued commitment to our shared mission and to your collaborative style of working together. Our team is very happy to support you and your objectives for this meeting at ICANN81. Cheers Mary *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:57 PM *To: *Mary Wong , Sally Costerton , Carlos Reyes , Andrea Glandon *Cc: *Johan Helsingius *Subject: *RE: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 Thanks Mary for the update.? Looking forward to hearing more soon. *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor Portland, OR 97209-4128 D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole at perkinscoie.com *From:* Mary Wong *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2024 8:55 AM *To:* Cole, Mason (POR) ; Sally Costerton ; Carlos Reyes ; Andrea Glandon *Cc:* Johan Helsingius *Subject:* Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 Dear Mason and Julf, Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding to your request. As you may have guessed, we have been looking at the likely cost, logistics and resourcing needs for this event, with Andrea?s and Carlos? very able assistance. We are finalizing things now and I very much hope that we will be able to get back to you within the next day or two. Thank you for your patience and understanding! Cheers Mary *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" > *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:26 PM *To: *Sally Costerton >, Mary Wong >, Carlos Reyes >, Andrea Glandon > *Cc: *Johan Helsingius > *Subject: *[Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 Greetings all ? Julf and I have yet to hear back regarding the attached proposal for a one-day Day 0 meeting prior to ICANN81 in Istanbul.? Some of our members would like to proceed with travel booking, and it would be helpful to know whether they should accommodate this proposed meeting.? We also are mindful of the approaching time for sponsored travelers to make arrangements. May we have an update please? Many thanks ? Mason and Julf *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor Portland, OR 97209-4128 D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole at perkinscoie.com *From:* Cole, Mason (POR) > *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:11 AM *To:* Sally Costerton >; Mary Wong >; Carlos Reyes >; Andrea Glandon > *Cc:* Johan Helsingius > *Subject:* Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 Dear Sally, Mary, Carlos and Andrea (cc Julf) ? On behalf of the CSG and NCSG, Julf and I respectfully submit the attached proposal for a Day 0 meeting of the Non-Contracted Party House during ICANN81 in Istanbul.? We trust the request is in good order, and look forward to your consideration of the request. You?ll recall that the NCPH met for a similar Day 0 event at ICANN78 in Hamburg, where we made substantial progress on the joint work of our house.? The objective of the proposed ICANN81 meeting not only is to further strengthen our cooperative relationship, but to advance specific policy work.? We also are hopeful that, as was the case for the Contracted Party Summit in May, we may have an opportunity to interact with and brief ICANN Board members about issues important to the NCPH, according to their availability.? Our planned one-day meeting will be substantive and, we?re confident, will yield visible and productive outcomes that we plan to share broadly with the community and ICANN Org. Thank you for your consideration of this request.? Should you have questions or suggestions, Julf and I remain available to you.? We eagerly anticipate your reply. Kind regards ? Mason Cole (for the CSG) and Julf Helsingius (for the NCSG) *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor Portland, OR 97209-4128 D. +1.503.727.2074 E. MCole at perkinscoie.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This communication from Perkins Coie LLP may contain privileged or other confidential information. 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From julf at Julf.com Tue Aug 6 14:50:35 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 13:50:35 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals Message-ID: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Dear NCSG EC members, If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending member applications at: https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). The NCSG Charter rules about membership: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership Julf From julf at Julf.com Tue Aug 6 15:02:38 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 14:02:38 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: INPUT NEEDED ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 In-Reply-To: References: <599D1663-3954-40F4-A3F1-8308B4240167@icann.org> <1c39a5a9-5589-4fcd-bdb2-3777ddba1890@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Pedro, Thanks for letting us know - I don't see it as an issue, but it is indeed always good to declare any potential ones. I also see you have updated your GNSO SOI - great! Julf On 05/08/2024 23:54, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Seeing the messages in the other mail chain about this same subject, I > would like to highlight that I currently work for a ccTLD. My > involvement in ICANN and in the NCSG precedes this job and I do not > represent NIC.br in ICANN work, but even then this could represent some > level of conflict of interest. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and > IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em s?b., 3 de ago. de 2024 ?s 05:16, Johan Helsingius > escreveu: > > Hi Pedro - good comments. I can try to suggest some sort of merger of > 1 and 3, but not sure what is possible at this point. > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > > On 01/08/2024 14:36, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Would it be possible to merge proposals 1 and 3? ALAC's proposal > > apparently overlaps quite a bit with the "Geopolitical, > Legislative, and > > Regulatory Developments Update", and ccNSO's seems a bit repetitive, > > even if the idea is exactly to consolidate what is being built > during > > the year. Maybe joining those (something along the lines of "ICANN's > > role towards new Internet Infrastructures being proposed > nationally and > > internationally") would result in a very interesting session. > > > > IPC's proposal is too specific, aiming to bring a concern of their > > constituency to be debated by the whole community, and RrSG is > too wide > > (it looks more like a proposal for an outreach video than a > Community > > Session) > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 >, Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > > >) > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial > (UCoimbra), > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) >, ISOC BR > > >, IODA > > e CC Brasil > > >. > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se > recebida por > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > Em qua., 31 de jul. de 2024 ?s 09:28, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > >> escreveu: > > > > > > > > > >? ? ?-------- Forwarded Message -------- > >? ? ?Subject:? ? ? ? [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Updated: > INPUT > >? ? ?NEEDED > >? ? ?ICANN81 Community Session Topic by Wednesday 07 August 2024 > >? ? ?Date:? ?Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:51:07 +0000 > >? ? ?From:? ?Nathalie Peregrine via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning > >? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ?Reply-To:? ? ? ?Nathalie Peregrine > > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ?To: soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning at icann.org > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > > > > > > > >? ? ?**With additional RrSG topic added, and extended deadline > 7^th August > >? ? ?20:00 UTC, thank you to Alejandra and Justine for the > suggestion!** > > > >? ? ?Dear all, > > > >? ? ?The deadline for topic suggestions regarding the ICANN81 > Community > >? ? ?Session has now passed. You may have seen three proposals > circulated on > >? ? ?this mailing list. I have posted them below in order of > submission. > > > >? ? ?In order to finalize the choice of topic, we would like to > invite ICANN > >? ? ?community leaders ?to submit their choices via the mailing > list by > >? ? ?responding to these two questions: > > > >? ? ? ? 1. Which topic is your group most interested in? /(Please > bear in > >? ? ?mind > >? ? ? ? ? ?that ?none? is also an acceptable response)/ > >? ? ? ? 2. Would this topic engage your group to the point of > taking part in > >? ? ? ? ? ?the organization of the session? > > > >? ? ?Kindly respond by _Wednesday 7 August 2024 2000 UTC._ > > > >? ? ?__ > > > >? ? ?Thank you all! > > > >? ? ?** > > > >? ? ? ? 1. *ccNSO Proposal* > > > >? ? ?The ccNSO Council suggests a plenary session during the ICANN 81 > >? ? ?meeting > >? ? ?to be held in Istanbul in November 2024, on the topic of the > WSIS+20 > >? ? ?Review and what ICANN (the community and the organisation) > can do to > >? ? ?help advertise and preserve ICANN?s multi-stakeholder model, > and the > >? ? ?broader multi-stakeholder internet governance approach, > during the > >? ? ?Review. > > > >? ? ?ICANN is working with the community to reflect on lessons > learned in > >? ? ?the > >? ? ?GDC process during 2023-2024, and developing a strategy for > the role > >? ? ?ICANN and its community can play during the WSIS+20 review in > 2024 and > >? ? ?2025. By the time ICANN81 rolls around, this strategy should > be well > >? ? ?developed, and it will be time to further mobilise the ICANN > community > >? ? ?around the role it can play in this important work. > > > >? ? ?The main outcomes of such a session should be that: > > > >? ? ? ? ?* The ICANN community is well informed about the strategic > >? ? ?approach to > >? ? ? ? ? ?the WSIS+20 Review, and what role individual > organisations and > >? ? ? ? ? ?communities can play > >? ? ? ? ?* The ICANN community is mobilised to play the roles they can > >? ? ?play as > >? ? ? ? ? ?part of the Review > > > >? ? ?A secondary outcome would be the sharing of greater insight > about where > >? ? ?the WSIS+20 review is at, though this can be covered in the > >? ? ?Geopolitical > >? ? ?session. > > > >? ? ? ? 2. *IPC Proposal* > > > >? ? ?_Working Title:_Reviewing ICANN?s Accountability Mechanisms > > > >? ? ?_Aim:_? To hold a general discussion across the community > about the > >? ? ?ICANN Accountability Mechanisms, particularly the Request for > >? ? ?Reconsideration (RFR) and Independent Review Process (IRP) in > order to > >? ? ?elicit views on whether: > > > >? ? ? ? ?* these mechanisms are fit for purpose > >? ? ? ? ?* there are unintended outcomes resulting from the manner > in which > >? ? ? ? ? ?these mechanisms are set out in the Bylaws.? For example: > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?o do the standing and grounds requirements for either > mechanism > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?serve to exclude legitimate access by those that > the community > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?intended to have access, such as SO, AC, SG and Cs > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?o Are these mechanisms available to any classes of > >? ? ?complainant who > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?were not intended by the community to have access > to them > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?o Is the EC IRP process sufficiently clear and > unambiguous. > >? ? ? ? ?* there are concerns sufficient to warrant review and > potential > >? ? ? ? ? ?revision of the relevant Bylaws provisions and, if so, > whether > >? ? ?there > >? ? ? ? ? ?is a sufficient support from the community to convene a > CCWG > >? ? ?to work > >? ? ? ? ? ?on this. > > > >? ? ?_Brief Background:_ > > > >? ? ?On a number of occasions recently, including in meetings with > the GNSO > >? ? ?Council, ICANN Board Members have expressed the view that the > IRP, as > >? ? ?presently drafted, could be used by classes of potential > claimant who > >? ? ?were never intended to have access to this mechanism, such as an > >? ? ?unsuccessful respondent to an ICANN RFP or tender process.? Board > >? ? ?Members have expressed the desire for a community discussion > on this. > > > >? ? ?At the same time, the GNSO?s Intellectual Property Constituency > >? ? ?recently > >? ? ?brought a RFR against a proposal by the Board that would have > had the > >? ? ?effect of changing a Fundamental Bylaws without following the > >? ? ?Bylaws-mandated process for doing so.? The IPC?s RFR was > summarily > >? ? ?dismissed as failing to demonstrate that the IPC was harmed > by such a > >? ? ?Board action. > > > >? ? ?The intent of this session would not be to publicly debate > the IPC?s > >? ? ?ongoing disagreement with ICANN over the RFR, which is > currently in the > >? ? ?Co-Operative Engagement Process.? Rather, we believe that > both examples > >? ? ?demonstrate that there are concerns, both on ICANN Org?s side > and on > >? ? ?the > >? ? ?Community side, with these important accountability > mechanisms which > >? ? ?were revised as a result of the cross community work on > Accountability > >? ? ?in the context of the IANA Transition.? We believe this is an > >? ? ?appropriate time for a discussion on whether the mechanisms > meet the > >? ? ?community?s expectations, or whether they would benefit from > a more > >? ? ?formal review and revision. > > > >? ? ?** > > > >? ? ?*3) At-Large/ ALAC Proposal* > > > > > >? ? ?_Working Title_: Shifting Paradigms: Multistakeholderism, > Geopolitics, > >? ? ?International Law, and New Internet Infrastructures. > > > >? ? ?_Objective/Aims_: > >? ? ?To explore the intersections of geopolitics, international > law, and > >? ? ?emerging internet infrastructures. Key topics include the > reshaping of > >? ? ?the multistakeholder model, implications for new internet > >? ? ?infrastructures, and data governance. The discussion will > reference the > >? ? ?2024 United States International Cyberspace & Digital Policy > Strategy, > >? ? ?EU's GDPR, the AI Act, and NIS2.?This session is crucial for > end users, > >? ? ?regulators, policymakers, technologists, legal experts, > academics, and > >? ? ?other stakeholders in the Internet governance community. It > emphasizes > >? ? ?the link between infrastructure governance and data > management from the > >? ? ?end user perspective, highlighting the importance of user-centric > >? ? ?approaches in shaping the future of internet infrastructures. > > > >? ? ?_Proposed Speakers_: > > > >? ? ? ? ?- Vint Cerf, Internet Pioneer > >? ? ? ? ?- Leon Sanchez, ICANN Board Member > >? ? ? ? ?- Jorge Cancio, Deputy Head of the International > Relations Team at > >? ? ?the Federal Office of Communications (OFCOM); GAC Switzerland > >? ? ? ? ?- Pari Esfandiari, ALAC/EURALO, Global TechnoPolitics Forum > >? ? ? ? ?- Susan Chalmers, Internet Policy Specialist, US > Department of > >? ? ?Commerce, NTIA > >? ? ? ? ?- Berna Ak?al? G?r, Lecturer, CCLS Queen Mary University > of London, > >? ? ?Associate Research Fellow at UNU-CRIS Digital Cluster > >? ? ? ? ?- John Crain, ICANN SVP & Chief Technology Officer > > > >? ? ?_Moderator:_?Joanna Kulesza, ALAC Liaison to the GAC > > > >? ? ?_Scoping Questions_: > > > >? ? ? ? 1.? ?How should the multistakeholder model evolve to > accommodate new > >? ? ? ? ? ?internet infrastructures and the shift towards them in > governance? > >? ? ? ? 2.? ?What are the primary governance challenges posed by the > >? ? ? ? ? ?development of new internet infrastructures and > governance models? > >? ? ? ? 3.? ?How do existing regulatory frameworks like GDPR, the > AI Act, and > >? ? ? ? ? ?NIS2 address the challenges and opportunities presented > by new > >? ? ? ? ? ?internet infrastructures and respective governance models? > > > > > >? ? ?_Expected Outcomes_: > > > > > >? ? ?- A comprehensive understanding of the challenges and > opportunities > >? ? ?presented by new internet infrastructures and the regulatory > shift > >? ? ?towards them - MSM implications. > >? ? ?- Insight into how existing regulatory frameworks, including > the MSM, > >? ? ?can adapt to these emerging technologies. > >? ? ?- Enhanced dialogue among stakeholders on the future of > >? ? ?multistakeholder > >? ? ?Internet governance. > > > >? ? ? ? 4. *RrSG Proposal* > > > >? ? ?** > > > >? ? ?RrSG Proposal for ICANN81 Plenary Session: The Registrant?s > Journey > > > >? ? ?Follow along with our hero Sophia Exemplar as she begins her > Registrant > >? ? ?Journey and encounters ICANN policies in the registration and > use of > >? ? ?her > >? ? ?new domain name to create a fan website for the 1960s TV show > >? ? ?/Thunderbirds/. Along the way, she?ll encounter choices for > >? ? ?registration > >? ? ?data submission and publication, phishing emails and > deceptive notices, > >? ? ?and renewal reminders. She?ll consider moving to a new > registrar, or > >? ? ?even giving the domain name away to a friend, and more. Will > Sophia?s > >? ? ?journey be a success? We?ll poll the meeting attendees to > help her > >? ? ?decide what to do at each important step in the process. > > > >? ? ?/This session takes attendees through important aspects of > the domain > >? ? ?name lifecycle, covering registration data collection > requirements, > >? ? ?choices around data masking or publication, contacts sent to > the domain > >? ? ?owner, and processes including registrar transfer and change of > >? ? ?ownership data. Attendees will gain a greater understanding > of the > >? ? ?industry landscape and domain owner experience. / > > > >? ? ?** > > > >? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ?NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > >? ? ? > > > > From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 07:35:02 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 01:35:02 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Julf, I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was never registered, while everything worked great with the organizations process. I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill the "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last name" space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not seem to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile because "David Morar" still appears above my name. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escreveu: > Dear NCSG EC members, > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending > member applications at: > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Aug 7 14:10:21 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 13:10:21 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment application" link for someone, and then clicked on the "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? Julf On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > Hi Julf, > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > never registered, while everything worked great with the organizations > process. > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill the > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last name" > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not seem > to change anything). Or?maybe there is a conflict within my profile > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and > IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > escreveu: > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending > member applications at: > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > ? ? ? ? Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From mamattah.raymond at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 14:56:36 2024 From: mamattah.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Mamattah) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 11:56:36 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 In-Reply-To: <32145614-c62d-4ed3-a3b9-f7692d7cd2ea@Julf.com> References: <32145614-c62d-4ed3-a3b9-f7692d7cd2ea@Julf.com> Message-ID: Well-done to Mason and Julf for pushing for this day zero meeting at ICANN81. Raymond Mamattah [image: linkedin] [image: facebook] [image: twitter] Accra, Ghana On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 9:25?AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC < ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:03:20 +0000 > From: Mary Wong > To: Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie) , Sally > Costerton > , Carlos Reyes , > Andrea Glandon > CC: Johan Helsingius > > > > Dear Mason and Julf, > > With thanks for your patience and understanding, we?ve discussed the > budget, requirements and needs with our colleagues from the Meetings and > other teams that support the ICANN Public Meetings. I?m very pleased to > inform you that we believe we will be able to support the Non-Contracted > Parties House (NCPH) Day Zero event request, as outlined in your > proposal. Carlos and his team will be in touch with you shortly, to work > out the finer details as to the program and logistics, as well as to > formalize and finalize the support needs for this meeting. > > Thank you for your continued commitment to our shared mission and to > your collaborative style of working together. Our team is very happy to > support you and your objectives for this meeting at ICANN81. > > Cheers > > Mary > > *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" > *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:57 PM > *To: *Mary Wong , Sally Costerton > , Carlos Reyes , > Andrea Glandon > *Cc: *Johan Helsingius > *Subject: *RE: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Thanks Mary for the update. Looking forward to hearing more soon. > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. MCole at perkinscoie.com > > *From:* Mary Wong > *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2024 8:55 AM > *To:* Cole, Mason (POR) ; Sally Costerton > ; Carlos Reyes ; > Andrea Glandon > *Cc:* Johan Helsingius > *Subject:* Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Dear Mason and Julf, > > Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding to your request. > As you may have guessed, we have been looking at the likely cost, > logistics and resourcing needs for this event, with Andrea?s and Carlos? > very able assistance. We are finalizing things now and I very much hope > that we will be able to get back to you within the next day or two. > Thank you for your patience and understanding! > > Cheers > > Mary > > *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" > > *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:26 PM > *To: *Sally Costerton >, Mary Wong >, Carlos Reyes >, Andrea Glandon > > > *Cc: *Johan Helsingius > > *Subject: *[Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Greetings all ? > > Julf and I have yet to hear back regarding the attached proposal for a > one-day Day 0 meeting prior to ICANN81 in Istanbul. Some of our members > would like to proceed with travel booking, and it would be helpful to > know whether they should accommodate this proposed meeting. We also are > mindful of the approaching time for sponsored travelers to make > arrangements. > > May we have an update please? > > Many thanks ? > > Mason and Julf > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. MCole at perkinscoie.com > > *From:* Cole, Mason (POR) > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:11 AM > *To:* Sally Costerton >; Mary Wong >; Carlos Reyes >; Andrea Glandon > > > *Cc:* Johan Helsingius > > *Subject:* Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Dear Sally, Mary, Carlos and Andrea (cc Julf) ? > > On behalf of the CSG and NCSG, Julf and I respectfully submit the > attached proposal for a Day 0 meeting of the Non-Contracted Party House > during ICANN81 in Istanbul. We trust the request is in good order, and > look forward to your consideration of the request. > > You?ll recall that the NCPH met for a similar Day 0 event at ICANN78 in > Hamburg, where we made substantial progress on the joint work of our > house. The objective of the proposed ICANN81 meeting not only is to > further strengthen our cooperative relationship, but to advance specific > policy work. We also are hopeful that, as was the case for the > Contracted Party Summit in May, we may have an opportunity to interact > with and brief ICANN Board members about issues important to the NCPH, > according to their availability. Our planned one-day meeting will be > substantive and, we?re confident, will yield visible and productive > outcomes that we plan to share broadly with the community and ICANN Org. > > Thank you for your consideration of this request. Should you have > questions or suggestions, Julf and I remain available to you. We > eagerly anticipate your reply. > > Kind regards ? > > Mason Cole (for the CSG) and Julf Helsingius (for the NCSG) > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. 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If you have received it in error, > please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the > message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 15:07:16 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:07:16 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none worked. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR ) Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , IODA e CC Brasil . Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por engano, favor responder informando o erro. Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius escreveu: > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > Julf > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > Hi Julf, > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > > never registered, while everything worked great with the organizations > > process. > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill the > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last name" > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not seem > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > , CC Brasil and > > IODA > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > escreveu: > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending > > member applications at: > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > < > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > Julf > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Aug 7 15:09:58 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 14:09:58 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 In-Reply-To: References: <32145614-c62d-4ed3-a3b9-f7692d7cd2ea@Julf.com> Message-ID: Thanks Raymond! Julf On 07/08/2024 13:56, Raymond Mamattah wrote: > Well-done to Mason and Julf for pushing for this day zero meeting at > ICANN81. > > Raymond Mamattah > linkedin facebook > twitter > > Accra, Ghana > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 9:25?AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC > > wrote: > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject:? ? ? ? Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > Date:? ?Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:03:20 +0000 > From:? ?Mary Wong > > To:? ? ?Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie) >, Sally Costerton > >, > Carlos Reyes >, > Andrea Glandon > > CC:? ? ?Johan Helsingius > > > > Dear Mason and Julf, > > With thanks for your patience and understanding, we?ve discussed the > budget, requirements and needs with our colleagues from the Meetings > and > other teams that support the ICANN Public Meetings. I?m very pleased to > inform you that we believe we will be able to support the > Non-Contracted > Parties House (NCPH) Day Zero event request, as outlined in your > proposal. Carlos and his team will be in touch with you shortly, to > work > out the finer details as to the program and logistics, as well as to > formalize and finalize the support needs for this meeting. > > Thank you for your continued commitment to our shared mission and to > your collaborative style of working together. Our team is very happy to > support you and your objectives for this meeting at ICANN81. > > Cheers > > Mary > > *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" > > *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:57 PM > *To: *Mary Wong >, > Sally Costerton > >, > Carlos Reyes >, > Andrea Glandon > > *Cc: *Johan Helsingius > *Subject: *RE: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Thanks Mary for the update.? Looking forward to hearing more soon. > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. MCole at perkinscoie.com > > > > *From:* Mary Wong > > *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2024 8:55 AM > *To:* Cole, Mason (POR) >; Sally Costerton > >; > Carlos Reyes >; > Andrea Glandon > > *Cc:* Johan Helsingius > *Subject:* Re: [Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Dear Mason and Julf, > > Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding to your request. > As you may have guessed, we have been looking at the likely cost, > logistics and resourcing needs for this event, with Andrea?s and > Carlos? > very able assistance. We are finalizing things now and I very much hope > that we will be able to get back to you within the next day or two. > Thank you for your patience and understanding! > > Cheers > > Mary > > *From: *"Cole, Mason (Perkins Coie)" > >> > *Date: *Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:26 PM > *To: *Sally Costerton > >>, Mary Wong > >>, Carlos > Reyes > >>, > Andrea Glandon > > >> > *Cc: *Johan Helsingius >> > *Subject: *[Ext] FW: Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Greetings all ? > > Julf and I have yet to hear back regarding the attached proposal for a > one-day Day 0 meeting prior to ICANN81 in Istanbul.? Some of our > members > would like to proceed with travel booking, and it would be helpful to > know whether they should accommodate this proposed meeting.? We also > are > mindful of the approaching time for sponsored travelers to make > arrangements. > > May we have an update please? > > Many thanks ? > > Mason and Julf > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. MCole at perkinscoie.com > > > > *From:* Cole, Mason (POR) > >> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:11 AM > *To:* Sally Costerton > >>; Mary Wong > >>; Carlos > Reyes > >>; > Andrea Glandon > > >> > *Cc:* Johan Helsingius > >> > *Subject:* Proposal: NCPH Day 0 Meeting ICANN81 > > Dear Sally, Mary, Carlos and Andrea (cc Julf) ? > > On behalf of the CSG and NCSG, Julf and I respectfully submit the > attached proposal for a Day 0 meeting of the Non-Contracted Party House > during ICANN81 in Istanbul.? We trust the request is in good order, and > look forward to your consideration of the request. > > You?ll recall that the NCPH met for a similar Day 0 event at ICANN78 in > Hamburg, where we made substantial progress on the joint work of our > house.? The objective of the proposed ICANN81 meeting not only is to > further strengthen our cooperative relationship, but to advance > specific > policy work.? We also are hopeful that, as was the case for the > Contracted Party Summit in May, we may have an opportunity to interact > with and brief ICANN Board members about issues important to the NCPH, > according to their availability.? Our planned one-day meeting will be > substantive and, we?re confident, will yield visible and productive > outcomes that we plan to share broadly with the community and ICANN Org. > > Thank you for your consideration of this request.? Should you have > questions or suggestions, Julf and I remain available to you.? We > eagerly anticipate your reply. > > Kind regards ? > > Mason Cole (for the CSG) and Julf Helsingius (for the NCSG) > > *Mason Cole**| **Perkins Coie LLP* > > *INTERNET GOVERNANCE ADVISOR* > > 1120 N.W. Couch Street Tenth Floor > > Portland, OR 97209-4128 > > D. +1.503.727.2074 > > E. MCole at perkinscoie.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential > information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender > by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments > without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > NOTICE: This communication from Perkins Coie LLP may contain privileged > or other confidential information. 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If you have received it in error, > please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the > message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Aug 7 15:17:01 2024 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 15:17:01 +0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think it'll make a difference. I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand correctly what you're doing. Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but failed to approve? Tapani On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana (pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none worked. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > ) > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , IODA e CC Brasil > . > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius > escreveu: > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > > > Julf > > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > > Hi Julf, > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the organizations > > > process. > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill the > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last name" > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not seem > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > > > Researcher > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > > , CC Brasil and > > > IODA > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending > > > member applications at: > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > < > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > > > -- Tapani Tarvainen From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Aug 7 15:33:24 2024 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 15:33:24 +0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. Tapani On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen (ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think > it'll make a difference. > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand > correctly what you're doing. > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but > failed to approve? > > Tapani > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana (pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none worked. > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > > ) > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > > , IODA e CC Brasil > > . > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius > > escreveu: > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > > > Hi Julf, > > > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the organizations > > > > process. > > > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill the > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last name" > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not seem > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > > > > Researcher > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > > > , CC Brasil and > > > > IODA > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the pending > > > > member applications at: > > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have to > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > < > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen -- Tapani Tarvainen From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 18:20:51 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 12:20:51 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Tapani, Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others have voted for and written). @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes ago. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. > > Tapani > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: > > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. > > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think > > it'll make a difference. > > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand > > correctly what you're doing. > > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but > > failed to approve? > > > > Tapani > > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none > worked. > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador > (GEDAI/UFPR > > > ) > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > > > , IODA e CC Brasil > > > . > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida > por > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > > > > Hi Julf, > > > > > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the > organizations > > > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill > the > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last > name" > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not > seem > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < > https://www.gedai.com.br/> > > > > > Researcher > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > > > > , CC Brasil >and > > > > > IODA > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > received > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the > pending > > > > > member applications at: > > > > > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > > < > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have > to > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > < > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tapani Tarvainen > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Aug 7 18:26:12 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 17:26:12 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: <9f29058a-0e56-489c-b05f-2ef6410d9625@Julf.com> On 07/08/2024 17:20, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready > on a separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few > minutes ago. Great! Thanks! Julf From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Aug 7 18:28:44 2024 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 18:28:44 +0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Pedro, That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* implied by EC_member as one might think). Tapani On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana (pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > Hi Tapani, > > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others have > voted for and written). > > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes ago. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and IODA > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: > > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. > > > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. > > > > Tapani > > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: > > > > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. > > > > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think > > > it'll make a difference. > > > > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand > > > correctly what you're doing. > > > > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but > > > failed to approve? > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none > > worked. > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador > > (GEDAI/UFPR > > > > ) > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil > > > > . > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida > > por > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > > > > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > > > > > Hi Julf, > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my vote was > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the > > organizations > > > > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not fill > > the > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last > > name" > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does not > > seem > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my profile > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> > > > > > > Researcher > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > > > > > , CC Brasil > >and > > > > > > IODA > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > > received > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the > > pending > > > > > > member applications at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > > > < > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals have > > to > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote "no" > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > < > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > -- > > Tapani Tarvainen > > From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 18:57:54 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 12:57:54 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the explanation, Tapani, and, especially, thanks for solving it. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 12:28, Tapani Tarvainen < ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: > Hi Pedro, > > That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile > didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* > implied by EC_member as one might think). > > Tapani > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > Hi Tapani, > > > > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not > > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others > have > > voted for and written). > > > > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a > > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes > ago. > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > > , CC Brasil and > IODA > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: > > > > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. > > > > > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( > > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: > > > > > > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. > > > > > > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think > > > > it'll make a difference. > > > > > > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there > > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand > > > > correctly what you're doing. > > > > > > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but > > > > failed to approve? > > > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( > > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none > > > worked. > > > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador > > > (GEDAI/UFPR > > > > > ) > > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial > (UCoimbra), > > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , > ISOC BR > > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil > > > > > . > > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se > recebida > > > por > > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius < > julf at julf.com> > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment > > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the > > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? > > > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Julf, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my > vote was > > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the > > > organizations > > > > > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not > fill > > > the > > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last > > > name" > > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it does > not > > > seem > > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my > profile > > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < > > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> > > > > > > > Researcher > > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > > > > > > , CC Brasil < > https://br.creativecommons.net/ > > > >and > > > > > > > IODA > > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > > > received > > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via > NCSG-EC > > > > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the > > > pending > > > > > > > member applications at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive > > > > > > > < > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> > > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals > have > > > to > > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you vote > "no" > > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Julf > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > > > -- > > > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 06:45:36 2024 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Ogundele) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 22:45:36 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN81 Travel Slot Selection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks. Here is my order based on their involvement in real core policy work done in the past that is visible to me not just in the statement written but active work. 1. Bolutife Adisa 2. Ken Herman 3. Frank Anati (This guy is one of the new entrants from the last Policy workshop Kathy ran and he drafted two policy responses on plurality) 4. Mili Semlani On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 3:58?PM Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > There are 11 applicants for the 2 available NCSG ICANN81 travel slots. I > have added the names and their motivating statements to the Google doc > below. Some submitted PDFs and you will find them linked in the document. > Please let me know if you have any questions. Julf will follow-up with an > email about the voting process (his morning tomorrow), but I am happy to > answer questions on the content of the Google doc. > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z_q_UPK_E7z-Tv3rKhqKk8On4Ei2NK6ZtUEUEzCnBEY/edit?usp=sharing > > > > Thanks! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:* acglandon76 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Aug 8 11:32:04 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 10:32:04 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN81 Travel Slot Selection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Andrea! Dear EC members, the NCSG operating procedures state that "Each EC member must provide a justification as to why they support an applicant and how the supported candidate fulfills the criteria stipulated under section 4 and throughout this policy. The decision should be taken through full consensus but if it is a matter of urgency, the Chair can give a shorter deadline and make a decision with the support of at least two other EC members." Thus we should try to arrive at a consensus decision without voting based on a discussion (that might best be done privately, but the results and rationale will be public). Julf On 07/08/2024 22:58, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC wrote: > Hello all, > > There are 11 applicants for the 2 available NCSG ICANN81 travel slots. I > have added the names and their motivating statements to the Google doc > below. Some submitted PDFs and you will find them linked in the > document. Please let me know if you have any questions. Julf will > follow-up with an email about the voting process (his morning tomorrow), > but I am happy to answer questions on the content of the Google doc. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z_q_UPK_E7z-Tv3rKhqKk8On4Ei2NK6ZtUEUEzCnBEY/edit?usp=sharing > > Thanks! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:*acglandon76 > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From julf at Julf.com Thu Aug 8 11:52:13 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 10:52:13 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN81 0-day Message-ID: Dear NCSG councillors and EC members, As the NCPH 0-day has been approved, please account for the extra day in Istanbul in your planning. We are assuming November 8 to be a full working day for us. Julf From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 12:04:02 2024 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 11:04:02 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN81 0-day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Julf, thanks for the heads up! Do we know whether the email for booking has been sent already ? or shall we expect it in September ? On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 10:52?AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear NCSG councillors and EC members, > > As the NCPH 0-day has been approved, please account for the extra day > in Istanbul in your planning. We are assuming November 8 to be a full > working day for us. > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Aug 8 12:11:49 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 11:11:49 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN81 0-day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <362cdee7-4ac7-4f94-a748-b0b0b1f57325@Julf.com> It has not been sent yet, but I don't know when we'll get it. Julf On 08/08/2024 11:04, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: > Hello, Julf, thanks for the heads up! > > Do we know?whether the email for booking has been sent already ? or > shall we expect it in September ? > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 10:52?AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > Dear NCSG councillors and EC members, > > As the NCPH 0-day has been approved, please account for the extra day > in Istanbul in your planning. We are assuming November 8 to be a full > working day for us. > > ? ? ? ? Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > -- > */Bruna Martins dos Santos > /* > > Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Co-Coordinator?| Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins ?// Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 21:04:07 2024 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Ogundele) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:04:07 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Looking at the individual NCUC member applications, I'm wondering why application like Maud Adjeley is denied by Jean and Farzi. Did you try to do some search on the background check? Can that application be reviewed? https://upsa.edu.gh/profile/maud-adjeley-ashong-elliot/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/maud-ashong-elliot-92675022/?originalSubdomain=gh On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:58?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Thanks for the explanation, Tapani, and, especially, thanks for solving it. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and > IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 12:28, Tapani Tarvainen < > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: > >> Hi Pedro, >> >> That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile >> didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* >> implied by EC_member as one might think). >> >> Tapani >> >> On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> > Hi Tapani, >> > >> > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not >> > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others >> have >> > voted for and written). >> > >> > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a >> > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes >> ago. >> > >> > Cordially, >> > >> > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >> > Researcher >> > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >> > , CC Brasil >> and IODA >> > >> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >> by >> > mistake, please reply informing it. >> > >> > >> > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < >> > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >> > >> > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. >> > > >> > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. >> > > >> > > Tapani >> > > >> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( >> > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. >> > > > >> > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think >> > > > it'll make a difference. >> > > > >> > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there >> > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand >> > > > correctly what you're doing. >> > > > >> > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but >> > > > failed to approve? >> > > > >> > > > Tapani >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >> > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but none >> > > worked. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cordially, >> > > > > >> > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador >> > > (GEDAI/UFPR >> > > > > ) >> > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial >> (UCoimbra), >> > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , >> ISOC BR >> > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil >> > > > > . >> > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se >> recebida >> > > por >> > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius < >> julf at julf.com> >> > > > > escreveu: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment >> > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the >> > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Julf >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: >> > > > > > > Hi Julf, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my >> vote was >> > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the >> > > organizations >> > > > > > > process. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not >> fill >> > > the >> > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the "Last >> > > name" >> > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it >> does not >> > > seem >> > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my >> profile >> > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Cordially, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < >> > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> >> > > > > > > Researcher >> > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR >> > > > > > > , CC Brasil < >> https://br.creativecommons.net/ >> > > >and >> > > > > > > IODA >> > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If >> > > received >> > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via >> NCSG-EC >> > > > > > > > >> escreveu: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at the >> > > pending >> > > > > > > member applications at: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive >> > > > > > > < >> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> >> > > > > > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs >> > > > > > > < >> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that approvals >> have >> > > to >> > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you >> vote "no" >> > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >> > > > > > < >> > > > > > >> > > >> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Julf >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list >> > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Tapani Tarvainen >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Tapani Tarvainen >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 21:16:00 2024 From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 14:16:00 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: I didn't deny it, as I indicated in the form, I need more information than a one sentence SOI: "Fairness and accountability in the domain name system processes". It's from the application that we can see if they truly care about NCSG and provide us with enough information to make a decision. I will only spend time doing background search when the applicant actually has spent minimal time and effort on the form. We can ask Andrea to reach out to the applicant for more information. I think they should redo it and come up with a paragraph of their work in this field. Farzaneh On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 2:04?PM Caleb Ogundele wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Looking at the individual NCUC member applications, I'm wondering why > application like Maud Adjeley is denied by Jean and Farzi. > > Did you try to do some search on the background check? Can that > application be reviewed? > > https://upsa.edu.gh/profile/maud-adjeley-ashong-elliot/ > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/maud-ashong-elliot-92675022/?originalSubdomain=gh > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:58?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanation, Tapani, and, especially, thanks for solving >> it. >> >> Cordially, >> >> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >> Researcher >> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >> , CC Brasil and >> IODA >> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by >> mistake, please reply informing it. >> >> >> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 12:28, Tapani Tarvainen < >> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >> >>> Hi Pedro, >>> >>> That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile >>> didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* >>> implied by EC_member as one might think). >>> >>> Tapani >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Tapani, >>> > >>> > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not >>> > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others >>> have >>> > voted for and written). >>> > >>> > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a >>> > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes >>> ago. >>> > >>> > Cordially, >>> > >>> > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>> > Researcher >>> > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >>> > , CC Brasil >>> and IODA >>> > >>> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >>> by >>> > mistake, please reply informing it. >>> > >>> > >>> > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < >>> > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >>> > >>> > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. >>> > > >>> > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. >>> > > >>> > > Tapani >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( >>> > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. >>> > > > >>> > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think >>> > > > it'll make a difference. >>> > > > >>> > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there >>> > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand >>> > > > correctly what you're doing. >>> > > > >>> > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but >>> > > > failed to approve? >>> > > > >>> > > > Tapani >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>> > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but >>> none >>> > > worked. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Cordially, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador >>> > > (GEDAI/UFPR >>> > > > > ) >>> > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial >>> (UCoimbra), >>> > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , >>> ISOC BR >>> > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil >>> > > > > . >>> > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se >>> recebida >>> > > por >>> > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius < >>> julf at julf.com> >>> > > > > escreveu: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment >>> > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the >>> > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Julf >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: >>> > > > > > > Hi Julf, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my >>> vote was >>> > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the >>> > > organizations >>> > > > > > > process. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not >>> fill >>> > > the >>> > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the >>> "Last >>> > > name" >>> > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it >>> does not >>> > > seem >>> > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my >>> profile >>> > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Cordially, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < >>> > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> >>> > > > > > > Researcher >>> > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR >>> > > > > > > , CC Brasil < >>> https://br.creativecommons.net/ >>> > > >and >>> > > > > > > IODA >>> > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If >>> > > received >>> > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via >>> NCSG-EC >>> > > > > > > > >>> escreveu: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at >>> the >>> > > pending >>> > > > > > > member applications at: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive >>> > > > > > > < >>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> >>> > > > > > > >>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs >>> > > > > > > < >>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs> >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that >>> approvals have >>> > > to >>> > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you >>> vote "no" >>> > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>> > > > > > < >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Julf >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list >>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Tapani Tarvainen >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Tapani Tarvainen >>> > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > >> > > -- > *Caleb Ogundele* > Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 21:23:41 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:23:41 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Caleb, My vote was because Maud ended up writing an application with almost no relevant information, and I couldn?t review it adequately - I did a quick search but, and this is my fault, missed the profiles you just linked. After reading them, I changed my vote in the system since her profile seems to be more than adequate. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR ) Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , IODA e CC Brasil . Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por engano, favor responder informando o erro. Em qui., 8 de ago. de 2024 ?s 15:04, Caleb Ogundele escreveu: > Hello Everyone, > > Looking at the individual NCUC member applications, I'm wondering why > application like Maud Adjeley is denied by Jean and Farzi. > > Did you try to do some search on the background check? Can that > application be reviewed? > > https://upsa.edu.gh/profile/maud-adjeley-ashong-elliot/ > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/maud-ashong-elliot-92675022/?originalSubdomain=gh > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:58?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanation, Tapani, and, especially, thanks for solving >> it. >> >> Cordially, >> >> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >> Researcher >> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >> , CC Brasil and >> IODA >> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by >> mistake, please reply informing it. >> >> >> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 12:28, Tapani Tarvainen < >> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >> >>> Hi Pedro, >>> >>> That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile >>> didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* >>> implied by EC_member as one might think). >>> >>> Tapani >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Tapani, >>> > >>> > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not >>> > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others >>> have >>> > voted for and written). >>> > >>> > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on a >>> > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes >>> ago. >>> > >>> > Cordially, >>> > >>> > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>> > Researcher >>> > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >>> > , CC Brasil >>> and IODA >>> > >>> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >>> by >>> > mistake, please reply informing it. >>> > >>> > >>> > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < >>> > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >>> > >>> > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. >>> > > >>> > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. >>> > > >>> > > Tapani >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( >>> > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. >>> > > > >>> > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think >>> > > > it'll make a difference. >>> > > > >>> > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there >>> > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand >>> > > > correctly what you're doing. >>> > > > >>> > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but >>> > > > failed to approve? >>> > > > >>> > > > Tapani >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>> > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but >>> none >>> > > worked. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Cordially, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador >>> > > (GEDAI/UFPR >>> > > > > ) >>> > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial >>> (UCoimbra), >>> > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , >>> ISOC BR >>> > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil >>> > > > > . >>> > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se >>> recebida >>> > > por >>> > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius < >>> julf at julf.com> >>> > > > > escreveu: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment >>> > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the >>> > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Julf >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: >>> > > > > > > Hi Julf, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my >>> vote was >>> > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the >>> > > organizations >>> > > > > > > process. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not >>> fill >>> > > the >>> > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the >>> "Last >>> > > name" >>> > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it >>> does not >>> > > seem >>> > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my >>> profile >>> > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Cordially, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < >>> > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> >>> > > > > > > Researcher >>> > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR >>> > > > > > > , CC Brasil < >>> https://br.creativecommons.net/ >>> > > >and >>> > > > > > > IODA >>> > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If >>> > > received >>> > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via >>> NCSG-EC >>> > > > > > > > >>> escreveu: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at >>> the >>> > > pending >>> > > > > > > member applications at: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive >>> > > > > > > < >>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> >>> > > > > > > >>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs >>> > > > > > > < >>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs> >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that >>> approvals have >>> > > to >>> > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you >>> vote "no" >>> > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>> > > > > > < >>> > > > > > >>> > > >>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > Julf >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list >>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Tapani Tarvainen >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Tapani Tarvainen >>> > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > >> > > -- > *Caleb Ogundele* > Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 21:40:21 2024 From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 14:40:21 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Member application approvals In-Reply-To: References: <3be7611e-40cc-4258-83a7-5d8972e428cf@Julf.com> Message-ID: I will wait for more information that comes from her on why she wants to join. Preferably more than two sentences. I think it?s not fair on other applicants either. We always go back to the ones that provide minimal information. Farzaneh On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 2:23?PM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana < pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Caleb, > > My vote was because Maud ended up writing an application with almost no > relevant information, and I couldn?t review it adequately - I did a quick > search but, and this is my fault, missed the profiles you just linked. > After reading them, I changed my vote in the system since her profile seems > to be more than adequate. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR > ) > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra), > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , IODA e CC Brasil > . > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se recebida por > engano, favor responder informando o erro. > > > Em qui., 8 de ago. de 2024 ?s 15:04, Caleb Ogundele > escreveu: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Looking at the individual NCUC member applications, I'm wondering why >> application like Maud Adjeley is denied by Jean and Farzi. >> >> Did you try to do some search on the background check? Can that >> application be reviewed? >> >> https://upsa.edu.gh/profile/maud-adjeley-ashong-elliot/ >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/maud-ashong-elliot-92675022/?originalSubdomain=gh >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:58?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC < >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the explanation, Tapani, and, especially, thanks for solving >>> it. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> >>> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>> Researcher >>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >>> , CC Brasil and >>> IODA >>> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >>> by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> >>> >>> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 12:28, Tapani Tarvainen < >>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >>> >>>> Hi Pedro, >>>> >>>> That's great. For the record, the problem was that your profile >>>> didn't have "Core functions" assigned to it (they are *not* >>>> implied by EC_member as one might think). >>>> >>>> Tapani >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:20:51PM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Tapani, >>>> > >>>> > Just tried again and everything worked great (other reviews were not >>>> > appearing even on the organization page and now I can see what others >>>> have >>>> > voted for and written). >>>> > >>>> > @Johan Helsingius , my reviews were already ready on >>>> a >>>> > separate doc, so I just inserted them all in the system a few minutes >>>> ago. >>>> > >>>> > Cordially, >>>> > >>>> > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>>> > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>>> > Researcher >>>> > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>>> > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR >>>> > , CC Brasil >>>> and IODA >>>> > >>>> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If >>>> received by >>>> > mistake, please reply informing it. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 09:33, Tapani Tarvainen < >>>> > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu: >>>> > >>>> > > On closer look I have an idea what might've caused your problem. >>>> > > >>>> > > Please try again now and let me know if it works any better. >>>> > > >>>> > > Tapani >>>> > > >>>> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen ( >>>> > > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Offhand I've no idea what's wrong. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I did change the "David Morar" box title, but I don't think >>>> > > > it'll make a difference. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I don't understand the comment about "First name" space - there >>>> > > > should be no need to do anything of the kind, if I understand >>>> > > > correctly what you're doing. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Could you give me an example of an applicant you tried but >>>> > > > failed to approve? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Tapani >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 09:07:16AM -0300, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana ( >>>> > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Exactly, Julf. Tried a few combinations of possibilities, but >>>> none >>>> > > worked. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Cordially, >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>>> > > > > Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 , Pesquisador >>>> > > (GEDAI/UFPR >>>> > > > > ) >>>> > > > > Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial >>>> (UCoimbra), >>>> > > > > Membro da Coordena??o - NCUC (ICANN) , >>>> ISOC BR >>>> > > > > , IODA e CC Brasil >>>> > > > > . >>>> > > > > Essa mensagem ? restrita ao remetente e destinat?rio(s). Se >>>> recebida >>>> > > por >>>> > > > > engano, favor responder informando o erro. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:10, Johan Helsingius < >>>> julf at julf.com> >>>> > > > > escreveu: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Just to check - you clicked on the "Approve or comment >>>> > > > > > application" link for someone, and then clicked on the >>>> > > > > > "Yes" choice in the David Morar box, but it didn't register? >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Julf >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > On 07/08/2024 06:35, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana wrote: >>>> > > > > > > Hi Julf, >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > I can not vote for individuals. I tried a few times and my >>>> vote was >>>> > > > > > > never registered, while everything worked great with the >>>> > > organizations >>>> > > > > > > process. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > I don't know why this is happening. Maybe because I can not >>>> fill >>>> > > the >>>> > > > > > > "First name" space (I have tried inserting it all in the >>>> "Last >>>> > > name" >>>> > > > > > > space or putting just the last name there as well, but it >>>> does not >>>> > > seem >>>> > > > > > > to change anything). Or maybe there is a conflict within my >>>> profile >>>> > > > > > > because "David Morar" still appears above my name. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Cordially, >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>>> > > > > > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR < >>>> > > https://www.gedai.com.br/> >>>> > > > > > > Researcher >>>> > > > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>>> > > > > > > Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR >>>> > > > > > > , CC Brasil < >>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/ >>>> > > >and >>>> > > > > > > IODA >>>> > > > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). >>>> If >>>> > > received >>>> > > > > > > by mistake, please reply informing it. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Em ter., 6 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:50, Johan Helsingius via >>>> NCSG-EC >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> escreveu: >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Dear NCSG EC members, >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > If you haven't done so recently, please have a look at >>>> the >>>> > > pending >>>> > > > > > > member applications at: >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive >>>> > > > > > > < >>>> > > https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-responsive> >>>> > > > > > > >>>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs >>>> > > > > > > < >>>> https://members.ncsg.is/ncsg-membership-applications-orgs> >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > and give your "yes" or "no" vote. Remember that >>>> approvals have >>>> > > to >>>> > > > > > > be unanimous, so even one "no" is a no go, and if you >>>> vote "no" >>>> > > > > > > you need to provide a reason (approval needs no reason). >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > The NCSG Charter rules about membership: >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>>> > > > > > < >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter#Charter-2.0OrganizationandMembership >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Julf >>>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC mailing list >>>> > > > > > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> > > > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > Tapani Tarvainen >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Tapani Tarvainen >>>> > > >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> *Caleb Ogundele* >> Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Thu Aug 15 00:57:30 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:57:30 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Wiki - Sections updates Message-ID: Hi EC, I was checking our wiki for information that needs to be updated and found some sections that could be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, what do you all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could be either (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help with something and this could be a way to direct their energy and efforts to something very helpful to the overall public - researching up-to-date info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating them all in our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or information among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. Here are my thoughts: - Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: Leadership Team; Committees; Representatives; Outstanding Actions/Requests/Deadlines) - NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something more to discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki pages of these constituencies? Meaning https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home, instead of having another content within the NCSG wiki page) - How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting Involved In Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and "Participating in ICANN meetings" is blank) - Meeting Records are deeply outdated - Who is our current finance committee, to check if that section should exist as something separated from other sections? - NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, or it should be deleted?) Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Fri Aug 16 14:51:50 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 13:51:50 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Wiki - Sections updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for taking the initiative on this, Pedro! Ideally we should try to combine the wikis of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC instead of having 3 separate ones. As for the finance committee, we have a bunch of people who have joined it, but when I asked them to look into the ICANN budget proposal, I didn't get any response... Julf On 14/08/2024 23:57, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC wrote: > Hi EC, > > I was checking our wiki > for > information that needs to be updated and found some sections that could > be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, what do you > all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could be either > (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? > > After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help with > something and this could be a way to direct their energy and efforts to > something very helpful to the overall public - researching up-to-date > info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating them all in > our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or information > among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. > > Here are my thoughts: > > * Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: Leadership > Team; Committees; Representatives;? ? Outstanding > Actions/Requests/Deadlines) > * NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something more to > discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki pages of > these constituencies? Meaning > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home > > and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home > , instead of > having another content within the NCSG wiki page) > * How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems > redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting Involved In > Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and "Participating > in ICANN meetings" is blank) > * Meeting Records are deeply outdated > * Who is our current finance committee, to check if that section > should exist as something separated from other sections? > * NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, or it > should be deleted?) > > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and > IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 16:53:56 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 10:53:56 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Wiki - Sections updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with the idea of joining them and making all the info be on the same place. We can ask Andrea to see if this is possible, and then ask for the perspective of the NPOC EC + NCUC EC and their respective communities. I forgot to think of a deadline to collect inputs on what to update and what to improve - considering it does not require much time to just check superficially and point out the pages to be modified (which will be our first step here), can we proceed to the next phase (consulting Constituencies ECs) after August, 21th? Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR , CC Brasil and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em sex., 16 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:51, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escreveu: > Thank you for taking the initiative on this, Pedro! > > Ideally we should try to combine the wikis of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC > instead of having 3 separate ones. As for the finance committee, > we have a bunch of people who have joined it, but when I asked > them to look into the ICANN budget proposal, I didn't get > any response... > > Julf > > > On 14/08/2024 23:57, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi EC, > > > > I was checking our wiki > > for > > information that needs to be updated and found some sections that could > > be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, what do you > > all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could be either > > (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? > > > > After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help with > > something and this could be a way to direct their energy and efforts to > > something very helpful to the overall public - researching up-to-date > > info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating them all in > > our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or information > > among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. > > > > Here are my thoughts: > > > > * Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: Leadership > > Team; Committees; Representatives; Outstanding > > Actions/Requests/Deadlines) > > * NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something more to > > discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki pages of > > these constituencies? Meaning > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home > > > > and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home > > , instead of > > having another content within the NCSG wiki page) > > * How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems > > redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting Involved In > > Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and "Participating > > in ICANN meetings" is blank) > > * Meeting Records are deeply outdated > > * Who is our current finance committee, to check if that section > > should exist as something separated from other sections? > > * NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, or it > > should be deleted?) > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > > , CC Brasil and > > IODA > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com Fri Aug 16 17:01:42 2024 From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 10:01:42 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Wiki - Sections updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi both NPOC/NCUC have their own website. I dont know if they keep their wiki updated it?s burdensome to do both. We can just link to their websites on NCSG wiki? Farzaneh On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 9:54?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > I agree with the idea of joining them and making all the info be on the > same place. We can ask Andrea to see if this is possible, and then ask for > the perspective of the NPOC EC + NCUC EC and their respective communities. > > I forgot to think of a deadline to collect inputs on what to update and > what to improve - considering it does not require much time to just check > superficially and point out the pages to be modified (which will be our > first step here), can we proceed to the next phase (consulting > Constituencies ECs) after August, 21th? > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) , ISOC BR > , CC Brasil and > IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em sex., 16 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:51, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escreveu: > >> Thank you for taking the initiative on this, Pedro! >> >> Ideally we should try to combine the wikis of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC >> instead of having 3 separate ones. As for the finance committee, >> we have a bunch of people who have joined it, but when I asked >> them to look into the ICANN budget proposal, I didn't get >> any response... >> >> Julf >> >> >> On 14/08/2024 23:57, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC wrote: >> > Hi EC, >> > >> > I was checking our wiki >> > for >> > information that needs to be updated and found some sections that could >> > be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, what do you >> > all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could be either >> > (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? >> > >> > After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help with >> > something and this could be a way to direct their energy and efforts to >> > something very helpful to the overall public - researching up-to-date >> > info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating them all in >> > our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or information >> > among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. >> > >> > Here are my thoughts: >> > >> > * Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: Leadership >> > Team; Committees; Representatives; Outstanding >> > Actions/Requests/Deadlines) >> > * NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something more to >> > discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki pages of >> > these constituencies? Meaning >> > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home >> > >> > and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home >> > , instead of >> > having another content within the NCSG wiki page) >> > * How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems >> > redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting Involved In >> > Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and "Participating >> > in ICANN meetings" is blank) >> > * Meeting Records are deeply outdated >> > * Who is our current finance committee, to check if that section >> > should exist as something separated from other sections? >> > * NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, or it >> > should be deleted?) >> > >> > >> > Cordially, >> > >> > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >> > Researcher >> > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR >> > , CC Brasil and >> > IODA >> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >> > by mistake, please reply informing it. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NCSG-EC mailing list >> > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Fri Aug 16 18:57:00 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:57:00 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Wiki - Sections updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16148b87-2457-4e23-b37e-e85286832817@Julf.com> It does indeed make sense to link to their sites for now. Julf On 16/08/2024 16:01, farzaneh badii wrote: > Hi both > > NPOC/NCUC have their own website. I dont know if they keep their wiki > updated it?s burdensome to do both. We can just link to their websites > on NCSG wiki? > > Farzaneh > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 9:54?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > I agree with the idea of joining them and making all the info be on > the same place. We can ask Andrea to see if this is possible, and > then ask for the perspective of the NPOC EC + NCUC EC and their > respective communities. > > I forgot to think of a deadline to collect inputs on what to update > and what to improve - considering it does not require much time to > just check superficially and point out the pages to be modified > (which will be our first step here), can we proceed to the next > phase (consulting Constituencies ECs) after August, 21th? > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) ,ISOC BR > , CC Brasil > and IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > received by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em sex., 16 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:51, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > escreveu: > > Thank you for taking the initiative on this, Pedro! > > Ideally we should try to combine the wikis of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC > instead of having 3 separate ones. As for the finance committee, > we have a bunch of people who have joined it, but when I asked > them to look into the ICANN budget proposal, I didn't get > any response... > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > > On 14/08/2024 23:57, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi EC, > > > > I was checking our wiki > > > for > > information that needs to be updated and found some sections > that could > > be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, > what do you > > all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could > be either > > (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? > > > > After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help > with > > something and this could be a way to direct their energy and > efforts to > > something very helpful to the overall public - researching > up-to-date > > info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating > them all in > > our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or > information > > among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. > > > > Here are my thoughts: > > > >? ?* Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: > Leadership > >? ? ?Team; Committees; Representatives;? ? Outstanding > >? ? ?Actions/Requests/Deadlines) > >? ?* NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something > more to > >? ? ?discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki > pages of > >? ? ?these constituencies? Meaning > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home > > > ?> > >? ? ?and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home > > >? ? ? >, instead of > >? ? ?having another content within the NCSG wiki page) > >? ?* How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems > >? ? ?redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting > Involved In > >? ? ?Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and > "Participating > >? ? ?in ICANN meetings" is blank) > >? ?* Meeting Records are deeply outdated > >? ?* Who is our current finance committee, to check if that > section > >? ? ?should exist as something separated from other sections? > >? ?* NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, > or it > >? ? ?should be deleted?) > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer >, > GEDAI/UFPR > > > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) >,ISOC BR > > >, CC Brasil > >and > > IODA > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > received > > by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From andrea.glandon at icann.org Fri Aug 16 19:03:43 2024 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 16:03:43 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: NCSG Wiki - Sections updates In-Reply-To: <16148b87-2457-4e23-b37e-e85286832817@Julf.com> References: <16148b87-2457-4e23-b37e-e85286832817@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hello all! Yes, I can update the wiki pages in any way leadership would like. Kind Regards, Andrea ?On 8/16/24, 10:57, "NCSG-EC on behalf of Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC" on behalf of ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is > wrote: It does indeed make sense to link to their sites for now. Julf On 16/08/2024 16:01, farzaneh badii wrote: > Hi both > > NPOC/NCUC have their own website. I dont know if they keep their wiki > updated it?s burdensome to do both. We can just link to their websites > on NCSG wiki? > > Farzaneh > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 9:54 AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC > >> wrote: > > I agree with the idea of joining them and making all the info be on > the same place. We can ask Andrea to see if this is possible, and > then ask for the perspective of the NPOC EC + NCUC EC and their > respective communities. > > I forgot to think of a deadline to collect inputs on what to update > and what to improve - considering it does not require much time to > just check superficially and point out the pages to be modified > (which will be our first step here), can we proceed to the next > phase (consulting Constituencies ECs) after August, 21th? > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer [nic[.]br]>, GEDAI/UFPR [gedai[.]com[.]br]> > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) [ncuc[.]org]>,ISOC BR > [isoc[.]org[.]br]>, CC Brasil > [br[.]creativecommons[.]net]>and IODA [ioda[.]org[.]br]> > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If > received by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em sex., 16 de ago. de 2024 ?s 08:51, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > >> escreveu: > > Thank you for taking the initiative on this, Pedro! > > Ideally we should try to combine the wikis of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC > instead of having 3 separate ones. As for the finance committee, > we have a bunch of people who have joined it, but when I asked > them to look into the ICANN budget proposal, I didn't get > any response... > > Julf > > > On 14/08/2024 23:57, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi EC, > > > > I was checking our wiki > > > > for > > information that needs to be updated and found some sections > that could > > be modified. To optimize the possible results of this idea, > what do you > > all think about listing the sections of our wiki that could > be either > > (a) updated or (b) improved? Can you help me with that? > > > > After we get a list, we have a lot of newcomers eager to help > with > > something and this could be a way to direct their energy and > efforts to > > something very helpful to the overall public - researching > up-to-date > > info and recent non-commercial activities and consolidating > them all in > > our wiki, while also looking to cut down repeated pages or > information > > among the various NCSG/NPOC/NCUC pages that currently exist. > > > > Here are my thoughts: > > > > * Leadership (its four subsections need to be updated: > Leadership > > Team; Committees; Representatives; Outstanding > > Actions/Requests/Deadlines) > > * NCUC and NPOC sections (here, we actually have something > more to > > discuss - wouldn't it be better to just link to the wiki > pages of > > these constituencies? Meaning > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home > > > > > > and https://community.icann.org/display/NPOCC/NPOC+Home > > > > > , instead of > > having another content within the NCSG wiki page) > > * How To Get Involved ("Guide To Getting Started In NCSG" seems > > redundant with the main page of this section, "Getting > Involved In > > Working Groups" could be improved, but it is ok, and > "Participating > > in ICANN meetings" is blank) > > * Meeting Records are deeply outdated > > * Who is our current finance committee, to check if that > section > > should exist as something separated from other sections? > > * NCSG - CRM (do we have something substantial to add here, > or it > > should be deleted?) > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer [nic[.]br] [nic[.]br]>>, > GEDAI/UFPR [gedai[.]com[.]br] [gedai[.]com[.]br]>> > > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Coordination/Board @ NCUC (ICANN) [ncuc[.]org] > [ncuc[.]org]>>,ISOC BR > > [isoc[.]org[.]br] [isoc[.]org[.]br]>>, CC Brasil > [br[.]creativecommons[.]net] > [br[.]creativecommons[.]net]>>and > > IODA [ioda[.]org[.]br] [ioda[.]org[.]br]>> > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). 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Please let me know if you see a conflict so that I can try to move it. As a note, this is still a draft so changes could still happen. Thanks! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As per below, the topic selected for ICANN81 is the ALAC topic. Our colleagues will be in touch with the session topic submitters for next steps. Please also note the block schedule, attached to this email, has been updated with the following changes: 1. Thursday afternoon Board Placeholder session replaced with ICANN Board and RSSAC meeting 2. Thursday morning ICANN Board and ASO meeting replaced with the Placeholder Empowered Community Session. This is a conflicted session where Decisional Participant Representatives? attendance will be expected but other sessions can take place at the same time. 3. Wednesday morning ICANN Board and RSSAC meeting replaced with the ICANN Board and ASO session. Thank you to all for the fruitful discussions! Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. Kind regards, Nathalie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org Mon Aug 26 09:30:57 2024 From: JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_F=2E_Qu=C3=A9ralt?=) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 14:30:57 +0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG - Summit for the Future. Message-ID: Hi all, I was wondering if NCSG will want to keep an eye over the Summit for the Future in September. Kinda relevant as it should mark the adoption of the GDC. Is there a pathway to participate through ICANN itself (International Relations or any other)? Also, I'd recommend to have a small note/update on this during either our Day Zero or session(s) in ICANN81. Best, Jean F. Queralt Founder & CEO - The IO Foundation Book a meeting (30 minutes) -- **DISCLAIMER** *The content of this message, which may contain personal or sensitive data, is confidential. If you have received it by mistake, please inform the sender by replying to the email and then permanently delete the message, including any attachments. 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Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Information Session to the ICANN Board Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:16:34 +0000 From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld To: julf at julf.com , mcole at perkinscoie.com CC: Carlos Reyes */Please see the attached letter sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/* DearJulf, Dear Mason, We were informed by our Policy colleagues that you will be in Istanbul on Friday 8 November, prior to the upcoming ICANN81 meeting, and we would like to use the opportunity to organize such a session. Would you be so kind as to let us know if you could potentially be available for 90mn on Friday 8 November? We believe that we could aim at *_13:30-15:00_*. Please let us know if this slot could work for you. Many thanks in advance, Vinciane Vinciane Koenigsfeld VP Board Operations ? ICANN Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Vinciane.koenigsfeld at icann.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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