From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 3 18:14:08 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:14:08 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests Message-ID: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> Happy New Year to all of you! Mid-December we managed to get the mail alias chair at ncsg.is changed to forward to me. Ever since, I keep getting reminders about hundreds of pending mailing list moderator requests waiting for approval. Almost all are requests to join our mailing lists (with an occasional attempt to post by a non-member). The oldest are from March 2021, the newest October 2021. Many of the lists aren't active any more. My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What do you think? Julf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The oldest are from March 2021, the newest October > 2021. > > Many of the lists aren't active any more. > > My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What > do you think? Agreed. I'd bet they're 99% or more just spam, and nothing that old is likely to be relevant anyway. -- Tapani Tarvainen From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 22:21:52 2023 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:21:52 -0700 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> Message-ID: I agree! Discarding should do the trick! (and also, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!) David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you! > > Mid-December we managed to get the mail alias chair at ncsg.is changed > to forward to me. Ever since, I keep getting reminders about hundreds > of pending mailing list moderator requests waiting for approval. Almost > all are requests to join our mailing lists (with an occasional attempt > to post by a non-member). The oldest are from March 2021, the newest > October 2021. > > Many of the lists aren't active any more. > > My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What > do you think? > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Tue Jan 3 23:36:46 2023 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:36:46 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> Message-ID: <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> Yes, we should be able to discard these. Happy New Year to everyone! All best, Robin > On Jan 3, 2023, at 12:21 PM, David Morar via NCSG-EC wrote: > > I agree! Discarding should do the trick! > (and also, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!) > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you! > > Mid-December we managed to get the mail alias chair at ncsg.is changed > to forward to me. Ever since, I keep getting reminders about hundreds > of pending mailing list moderator requests waiting for approval. Almost > all are requests to join our mailing lists (with an occasional attempt > to post by a non-member). The oldest are from March 2021, the newest > October 2021. > > Many of the lists aren't active any more. > > My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What > do you think? > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 23:42:35 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 15:42:35 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: I have no objection. Just a little caution, deactivate and archive so we don't loose institutional memories we need to refer to later. Caleb Ogundele ________________ Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device. Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr. On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 3:37 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: > Yes, we should be able to discard these. Happy New Year to everyone! > > All best, > Robin > > On Jan 3, 2023, at 12:21 PM, David Morar via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > I agree! Discarding should do the trick! > (and also, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!) > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Happy New Year to all of you! >> >> Mid-December we managed to get the mail alias chair at ncsg.is changed >> to forward to me. Ever since, I keep getting reminders about hundreds >> of pending mailing list moderator requests waiting for approval. Almost >> all are requests to join our mailing lists (with an occasional attempt >> to post by a non-member). The oldest are from March 2021, the newest >> October 2021. >> >> Many of the lists aren't active any more. >> >> My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. 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URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Jan 4 10:55:18 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 09:55:18 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: <252B0E83-9DF9-4742-9DE4-CA6DB187FE50@gmail.com> References: <252B0E83-9DF9-4742-9DE4-CA6DB187FE50@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ars?ne Tungali will have to recuse himself for the SSC upcoming selection process round, so we need a temporary alternate on the SSC for this round. Any volunteers? This is rather urgent as the next SSC meeting, where the candidates of this round will be discussed, is next week. Julf From julf at Julf.com Wed Jan 4 18:15:42 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:15:42 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> On 03/01/2023 22:42, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC wrote: > Just a little caution, deactivate and archive so we don't loose > institutional memories we need to refer to later. Good point. I wonder how stuff like this has been archived previously. Julf From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Jan 4 18:40:22 2023 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 18:40:22 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 05:15:42PM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > On 03/01/2023 22:42, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC wrote: > > > Just a little caution, deactivate and archive so we don't loose > > institutional memories we need to refer to later. > > Good point. I wonder how stuff like this has been archived previously. I don't think discarded/rejected subscriptions or messages from non-members have ever been archived in the past. It would not be too hard to make a listing of them before discarding them though, and I guess a place for saving that could also be found. I'm not sure I see the need though; perhaps it'd be enough to note the numbers, how many messages or subscription requests were rejected on each list? -- Tapani Tarvainen From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 19:08:14 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 11:08:14 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: I guess i did not make my explanation clear earlier, so let me explain below. 1. Julf asked wrote and I quote "Many of the lists aren't active anymore. My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What do you think?" 2. What I suggested was that since this email triggers subscription requests from members and non-members, why not deactivate (which I think was what everyone agreed to including your kind suggestion as well.) Then I went further to mention that it will be nice to ARCHIVE them while deactivation not to accept subscription requests has been implemented. Please let me know if you need me to clarify further. However, I think that we are saying the same thing. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 10:40 AM Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 05:15:42PM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC ( > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > On 03/01/2023 22:42, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC wrote: > > > > > Just a little caution, deactivate and archive so we don't loose > > > institutional memories we need to refer to later. > > > > Good point. I wonder how stuff like this has been archived previously. > > I don't think discarded/rejected subscriptions or messages from > non-members have ever been archived in the past. > > It would not be too hard to make a listing of them before discarding > them though, and I guess a place for saving that could also be found. > > I'm not sure I see the need though; perhaps it'd be enough to note > the numbers, how many messages or subscription requests were > rejected on each list? > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Jan 4 19:41:17 2023 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:41:17 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 11:08:14AM -0600, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele (muyiwacaleb at gmail.com) wrote: > > I guess i did not make my explanation clear earlier, so let me explain > below. > > 1. Julf asked wrote and I quote "Many of the lists aren't active anymore. > My suggestion is to simply discard them, as they are rather old. What do > you think?" Ah. I interpreted this that he only wants to discard the pending subscription requests and non-member messages, not the lists themselves. Perhaps Julf could clarify? > 2. What I suggested was that since this email triggers subscription > requests from members and non-members, why not deactivate (which I think > was what everyone agreed to including your kind suggestion as well.) Then I > went further to mention that it will be nice to ARCHIVE them while > deactivation not to accept subscription requests has been implemented. I think the lists have already been changed so that the confirmation subscription method has been disabled (that's what spammers use to send backscatter spam), given that there have been no new such recently (was it since October 2021). So most if not all of those moderation requests pestering Julf now are really leftovers from the time when backscatter spam worked. -- Tapani Tarvainen From julf at Julf.com Wed Jan 4 19:56:55 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 18:56:55 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Old mailing list joining requests In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: > Ah. I interpreted this that he only wants to discard the pending > subscription requests and non-member messages, not the lists > themselves. Perhaps Julf could clarify? Indeed, I expressed myself rather ambiguously. I meant just the subscription requests, but we should also have a discussion about non-active lists. Julf From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Jan 5 12:58:41 2023 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 12:58:41 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Inactive mailing lists In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 06:56:55PM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > we should also have a discussion about non-active lists. So, let's. As Caleb correctly pointed out, we should be careful before deleting old messages. Indeed our charter requires us to keep some mailing list archives, but some are of more temporary nature and might be removed. Even for such, however, I would agree with Caleb that at least in most cases it'd be better to deactivate them but keep their archives. Deactivating mailing lists isn't a simple on-off switch, however. Off the top of my head, there're several possible steps to take: (1) Unsubscribe everyone from the list and reject new subscription attempts. This prevents new messages from being sent to or from the list, including membership reminders (if they are in use). If the list has private archives, i.e., archives open only to list members, they become in accessible to anyone but administrator(s). (2) Change the list description texts, adding something like "This is a historical, no longer active list, maintained only for archival purposes. New subscriptions are not allowed." (3) Hide the list, i.e., remove it from the listing shown at https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo After that it remains accessible if you know the URL, but can't be easily found if you don't. (This has already been done for some lists.) (4) List archives can be converted from public to private or otherwise made inaccessible, should that be necessary for some reason. All of those steps are easily reversible if it becomes necessary to reactivate the list. It is also possible to make a static copy of the list archive somewhere and remove the list from Mailman. This would be a bit more difficult, and effectively irreversible (well of course the list could be recreated but it'd be much harder). Finally, a list can obviously also be removed completely along with its archives. I would be very hesitant to even consider doing that. However, lists that are not in use and don't have any archives, either because they weren't archived in the first place or because they have never been used at all, could be removed. Otherwise, I'd suggest considering some or all of the steps (1)-(3) above for apparently inactive lists. Whenever the list's old administrator(s) or moderator(s) are still around, asking them first might be a good idea. -- Tapani Tarvainen From julf at Julf.com Thu Jan 5 14:41:51 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 13:41:51 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC Message-ID: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: Hago Dafalla Mubashir Sargana Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). Opinions? Julf From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 15:40:33 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 07:40:33 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Inactive mailing lists In-Reply-To: References: <1504b3f4-9a7d-4a72-c519-2514fb73c70b@Julf.com> <0B253409-4A4B-45A4-8CB2-19B6812D7106@ipjustice.org> <95f26396-39cb-bbaf-af21-76ed562764e4@Julf.com> Message-ID: Excellent line of thought Tapani.i totally agree with this technical approach. @ Julf and other team members, over to you. What do you think? On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 4:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 06:56:55PM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC ( > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > > we should also have a discussion about non-active lists. > > So, let's. > > As Caleb correctly pointed out, we should be careful before deleting > old messages. Indeed our charter requires us to keep some mailing list > archives, but some are of more temporary nature and might be removed. > Even for such, however, I would agree with Caleb that at least in most > cases it'd be better to deactivate them but keep their archives. > > Deactivating mailing lists isn't a simple on-off switch, however. > > Off the top of my head, there're several possible steps to take: > > (1) Unsubscribe everyone from the list and reject new subscription > attempts. This prevents new messages from being sent to or from the > list, including membership reminders (if they are in use). If the > list has private archives, i.e., archives open only to list > members, they become in accessible to anyone but administrator(s). > > (2) Change the list description texts, adding something like > "This is a historical, no longer active list, maintained only > for archival purposes. New subscriptions are not allowed." > > (3) Hide the list, i.e., remove it from the listing shown at > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo > After that it remains accessible if you know the URL, but > can't be easily found if you don't. (This has already been > done for some lists.) > > (4) List archives can be converted from public to private or > otherwise made inaccessible, should that be necessary for > some reason. > > All of those steps are easily reversible if it becomes necessary to > reactivate the list. > > It is also possible to make a static copy of the list archive > somewhere and remove the list from Mailman. This would be a bit more > difficult, and effectively irreversible (well of course the list could > be recreated but it'd be much harder). > > Finally, a list can obviously also be removed completely along with > its archives. I would be very hesitant to even consider doing that. > > However, lists that are not in use and don't have any archives, either > because they weren't archived in the first place or because they have > never been used at all, could be removed. > > Otherwise, I'd suggest considering some or all of the steps (1)-(3) > above for apparently inactive lists. Whenever the list's old > administrator(s) or moderator(s) are still around, asking them first > might be a good idea. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. Warmly, Tomslin @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of > Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. > > We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: > Hago Dafalla > Mubashir Sargana > Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). > > Opinions? > > Julf > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Jan 5 22:20:30 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 21:20:30 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> Message-ID: <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> We probably won't have enough information in advance to give meaningful voting instructions. Julf On 05/01/2023 21:18, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Hi Julf, everyone, > > Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of voting > in the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the > alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC > picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? > > If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he > has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions > will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position > to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of > Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. > > We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: > Hago Dafalla > Mubashir Sargana > Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). > > Opinions? > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 22:30:12 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:30:12 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> Message-ID: In this case, I will root for Stephanie Perrin who at least understands the terrain and with little brief knows what to do accordingly. Caleb On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 2:20 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > We probably won't have enough information in advance to give meaningful > voting instructions. > > Julf > > > On 05/01/2023 21:18, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > > Hi Julf, everyone, > > > > Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of voting > > in the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the > > alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC > > picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? > > > > If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he > > has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions > > will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position > > to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. > > > > Warmly, > > Tomslin > > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > wrote: > > > > So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of > > Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. > > > > We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: > > Hago Dafalla > > Mubashir Sargana > > Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). > > > > Opinions? > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 22:31:21 2023 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 07:31:21 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> Message-ID: I think we can. But let's write to our other SSC appointees and ask their opinion on whether we will be able to receive meaningful information, enough to give voting instructions to an alternate. On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 07:20, Johan Helsingius wrote: > We probably won't have enough information in advance to give meaningful > voting instructions. > > Julf > > > On 05/01/2023 21:18, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > > Hi Julf, everyone, > > > > Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of voting > > in the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the > > alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC > > picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? > > > > If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he > > has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions > > will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position > > to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. > > > > Warmly, > > Tomslin > > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > wrote: > > > > So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of > > Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. > > > > We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: > > Hago Dafalla > > Mubashir Sargana > > Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). > > > > Opinions? > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Jan 5 22:35:56 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 21:35:56 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> <47f80751-4e47-5f7e-82f9-4e698487ab4d@Julf.com> Message-ID: Can you check with them? I have to go offline pretty soon, and we need to decide pretty soon. Julf On 05/01/2023 21:31, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > I think we can. But let's write to our other SSC appointees and ask > their opinion on whether we will be able to receive meaningful > information, enough to give voting instructions to an alternate. > > > > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 07:20, Johan Helsingius > wrote: > > We probably won't have enough information in advance to give meaningful > voting instructions. > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > > On 05/01/2023 21:18, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > > Hi Julf, everyone, > > > > Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of > voting > > in the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the > > alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC > > picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? > > > > If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance > as he > > has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting > instructions > > will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better > position > > to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. > > > > Warmly, > > Tomslin > > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > >> wrote: > > > >? ? ?So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC > selection of > >? ? ?Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. > > > >? ? ?We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: > >? ? ?Hago Dafalla > >? ? ?Mubashir Sargana > >? ? ?Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). > > > >? ? ?Opinions? > > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? Julf > > > > > > > >? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ?NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > >? ? ? > > > > From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca Fri Jan 6 02:23:51 2023 From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Digital) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:23:51 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <543DA919-0D97-48D0-A688-7F5D9CC2665A@digitaldiscretion.ca> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 03:03:43 2023 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 12:03:43 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Sam, I hope you are well. We are in the process of appointing an SSC alternate for Arsene who has recused himself from the 2 upcoming SSC tasks of selecting a Fellowship mentor and a GNSO rep to the Fellowship selection committee. As per Julf's email below, we have three options. But before we select, we wanted to consult with you whether it is possible for you to mentor someone who hasn't been exposed to this before. That is during the selection round and up to the point of voting during the selection? We are considering this option as it presents an opportunity to increase our pool of volunteers. Please let us know as soon as you can since we are a bit short on time. Warmly, Tomslin ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023, 23:41 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC To: ncsg-pc Cc: NCSG EC So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: Hago Dafalla Mubashir Sargana Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). Opinions? Julf _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Fri Jan 6 07:55:22 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 06:55:22 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: [NCSG-PC] Alternate for SSC Message-ID: <11470822-bc87-fea1-7caf-63683c4a91be@Julf.com> Forwarded, as this was held in moderation. Peter, are you using multiple email addresses? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Alternate for SSC Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 00:21:01 +0100 From: Akinremi Peter Taiwo To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar CC: Johan Helsingius , ncsg-pc , NCSG EC Hi All, From my experience, the alternate will have voting rights as the task involves making decisions in selecting suitable candidates. And since this is just for a week or two maximum, any of the candidates listed, I believe is equal to the challenge. I am sure you won't just vote without reviewing? candidates' SOI and having conversation to determine?whether a candidate fulfils selection criteria. Stephanie would be the ideal person. However, if Stephanie, or the PC/EC think Hago should be given a chance because of his persistence and willingness to volunteer, then that is fine by me. Regards. Peter On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:18 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar > wrote: Hi Julf, everyone, Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of voting in the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position to judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. Warmly, Tomslin @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > wrote: So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: Hago Dafalla Mubashir Sargana Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). Opinions? ? ? ? ? Julf _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- Best regards *Taiwo Peter Akinremi* ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ *Certified Salesforce Administrator | Data Protection Specialist | IT Auditor * *Phone*; +2348117714345, +2347063830177 *Skype*: akinremi.taiwo *Email:* compsoftnet at gmail.com , peterexecute at gmail.com ___________________________________________ From compsoftnet at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 01:21:01 2023 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 00:21:01 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi All, >From my experience, the alternate will have voting rights as the task involves making decisions in selecting suitable candidates. And since this is just for a week or two maximum, any of the candidates listed, I believe is equal to the challenge. I am sure you won't just vote without reviewing candidates' SOI and having conversation to determine whether a candidate fulfils selection criteria. Stephanie would be the ideal person. However, if Stephanie, or the PC/EC think Hago should be given a chance because of his persistence and willingness to volunteer, then that is fine by me. Regards. Peter On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:18 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Hi Julf, everyone, > > Can I check, is the temporary alternate only for the purpose of voting in > the upcoming SSC meeting? Can voting instructions be given to the > alternate, since someone new will not have understood the larger SSC > picture and dynamics by the meeting time next week? > > If voting instructions will be given, let us give Hago the chance as he > has consistently been interested in volunteering. If voting instructions > will not be given, then in my opinion Stephanie is in a better position to > judge and vote correctly and should sit in for Arsene. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 at 23:41, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> So we need to assign an alternate for Ars?ne for the SSC selection of >> Fellowship Program Mentor in time for the SSC meeting next week. >> >> We have three candidates who have expressed an interest: >> Hago Dafalla >> Mubashir Sargana >> Stephanie Perrin ("if needed"). >> >> Opinions? >> >> Julf >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -- Best regards *Taiwo Peter Akinremi* ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ *Certified Salesforce Administrator | Data Protection Specialist | IT Auditor * *Phone*; +2348117714345, +2347063830177 *Skype*: akinremi.taiwo *Email:* compsoftnet at gmail.com, peterexecute at gmail.com ___________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Finance and Planning team has reached out to see if groups are interested in having an opportunity to meet with them during membership meetings. This would be a follow-up to the Prep week session that is being held on 28 February. My thought is that it would make sense to have them join the NCSG Membership session so information isn?t replicated in the NPOC and NCUC membership meetings. Or you don?t have to have them join at all. Please let me know what all of your thoughts are. Thanks! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 18:23:43 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 10:23:43 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NPOC-EC] ICANN76-Finance and Planning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not a bad idea to have a merged session. Looks good to me. On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 9:50 AM Andrea Glandon via NPOC-EC wrote: > Hello! > > > > The Finance and Planning team has reached out to see if groups are > interested in having an opportunity to meet with them during membership > meetings. This would be a follow-up to the Prep week session that is being > held on 28 February. My thought is that it would make sense to have them > join the NCSG Membership session so information isn?t replicated in the > NPOC and NCUC membership meetings. Or you don?t have to have them join at > all. Please let me know what all of your thoughts are. > > > > Thanks! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:* acglandon76 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NPOC-EC mailing list > NPOC-EC at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/npoc-ec > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 23:33:44 2023 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2023 08:33:44 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Alternate for SSC In-Reply-To: <11724b12-2bf8-6962-6cde-01937f1d11d0@Julf.com> References: <704f89d5-b0f8-34fb-2b0b-83f66089529b@Julf.com> <11724b12-2bf8-6962-6cde-01937f1d11d0@Julf.com> Message-ID: Indeed. Thanks Stephanie, for offering to help if we are stuck. It appears that we are now stuck. Warmly, Tomslin On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 at 02:08, Johan Helsingius wrote: > On 06/01/2023 00:21, Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote: > > > However, if Stephanie, or > > the PC/EC think Hago should be given a chance because of his persistence > > and willingness to volunteer, then that is fine by me. > > Seems he has actually also submitted an EoI for the fellowship > mentor position, so he would have to recuse himself too. Seems > like Stefanie it is... > > Julf > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benakin at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 20:30:36 2023 From: benakin at gmail.com (Benjamin Akinmoyeje) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 20:30:36 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCUC-EC] ICANN76-Finance and Planning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Andrea, Thank you for sharing this request. I am OK with the committee meeting with us during the NCSG meeting. Kind regards, Benjamin On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 5:51 PM Andrea Glandon wrote: > Hello! > > > > The Finance and Planning team has reached out to see if groups are > interested in having an opportunity to meet with them during membership > meetings. This would be a follow-up to the Prep week session that is being > held on 28 February. My thought is that it would make sense to have them > join the NCSG Membership session so information isn?t replicated in the > NPOC and NCUC membership meetings. Or you don?t have to have them join at > all. Please let me know what all of your thoughts are. > > > > Thanks! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:* acglandon76 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCUC-EC mailing list > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Sun Jan 15 18:00:52 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:00:52 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Financial Committee Message-ID: <5e91eb5d-588b-729e-2a33-deba07a873e9@Julf.com> Gentlemen, Just a reminder... I hereby invite you to nominate one representative each to the NCSG Financial Committee for your constituencies. Kind regards, Julf From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 17 12:32:16 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 11:32:16 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot Message-ID: Stephanie has notified me that she won't be able to attend ICANN76 in person, so we have a travel slot we can reassign. Our operating procedures have a rather complicated process for travel slot reassignment, involving a general call for Motivation Statements, but as there is a tight time pressure, I would be inclined to bypass the full procedure. Caleb has expressed and interest, and Stephanie supports reassigning the travel slot to him. Would you be OK with giving Caleb the travel slot? Julf From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Tue Jan 17 12:49:48 2023 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:49:48 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fine by me. Recommendation by the councillor being substituted for is a strong factor in favor. Tapani On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:32:16AM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > Stephanie has notified me that she won't be able to attend ICANN76 > in person, so we have a travel slot we can reassign. > > Our operating procedures have a rather complicated process > for travel slot reassignment, involving a general call for > Motivation Statements, but as there is a tight time pressure, > I would be inclined to bypass the full procedure. > > Caleb has expressed and interest, and Stephanie supports > reassigning the travel slot to him. Would you be OK > with giving Caleb the travel slot? -- Tapani Tarvainen From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 15:17:08 2023 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:17:08 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think given the time frame and Stephanie?s suggestion, that should work. Maybe we can make it a note to the community, as welll, for transparency? May be too much, just throwing it out there. On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 05:49 Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Fine by me. Recommendation by the councillor being > substituted for is a strong factor in favor. > > Tapani > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:32:16AM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC ( > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > > > Stephanie has notified me that she won't be able to attend ICANN76 > > in person, so we have a travel slot we can reassign. > > > > Our operating procedures have a rather complicated process > > for travel slot reassignment, involving a general call for > > Motivation Statements, but as there is a tight time pressure, > > I would be inclined to bypass the full procedure. > > > > Caleb has expressed and interest, and Stephanie supports > > reassigning the travel slot to him. Would you be OK > > with giving Caleb the travel slot? > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 17 16:03:46 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 15:03:46 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a0bf20b-1ac2-eaa3-394c-19d4f2809eb0@Julf.com> On 17/01/2023 14:17, David Morar via NCSG-EC wrote: > I think given the time frame and Stephanie?s suggestion, that should > work. Maybe we can make it a note to the community, as welll, for > transparency? May be too much, just throwing?it out there. Was thinking of a note (if we agree) of "Because of the tight time constraints, the EC supported the suggestion by the chair to allocate the travel slot to Caleb" or something like that. Julf From adisabolutifeo at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 16:00:19 2023 From: adisabolutifeo at gmail.com (Bolutife Adisa) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 15:00:19 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34708CD6-5E85-40D1-8E7A-F9630C569542@gmail.com> Thanks for the info Johan. I think Caleb is a good choice for the replacement. Among many other reasons, I would like to add that he?s also coordinating our community outreach with the fellows, it would be nice to have him on ground while some of us offer support remotely. Best, Bolutife Adisa. > On 17. Jan 2023, at 11:32, Johan Helsingius wrote: > > ?Stephanie has notified me that she won't be able to attend ICANN76 > in person, so we have a travel slot we can reassign. > > Our operating procedures have a rather complicated process > for travel slot reassignment, involving a general call for > Motivation Statements, but as there is a tight time pressure, > I would be inclined to bypass the full procedure. > > Caleb has expressed and interest, and Stephanie supports > reassigning the travel slot to him. Would you be OK > with giving Caleb the travel slot? > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From andrea.glandon at icann.org Tue Jan 17 16:43:42 2023 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 14:43:42 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN76 Session Zoom Setup Message-ID: Hello! Zoom has had a significant improvement to the meeting format. The Zoom Q&A feature, previously only available in Zoom Webinars, is now available in Zoom Meetings. You can read more about this feature here: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/11400580088973-Enabling-Q-A-for-Meetings- For all ICANN76 sessions, regardless of the Zoom format selected, the Q&A feature will be enabled by default. The Q&A pod cannot be disabled once a session has started. Please let me know if you would like the Q&A feature turned on for your sessions so that I can request the appropriate setup. Thanks! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Zoom has had a significant improvement to the meeting format. The Zoom Q&A feature, previously only available in Zoom Webinars, is now available in Zoom Meetings. You can read more about this feature here: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/11400580088973-Enabling-Q-A-for-Meetings- For all ICANN76 sessions, regardless of the Zoom format selected, the Q&A feature will be enabled by default. The Q&A pod cannot be disabled once a session has started. Please let me know if you would like the Q&A feature turned on for your sessions so that I can request the appropriate setup. Thanks! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Tue Jan 17 23:06:20 2023 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:06:20 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Reassignment of Cancun travel slot In-Reply-To: <34708CD6-5E85-40D1-8E7A-F9630C569542@gmail.com> References: <34708CD6-5E85-40D1-8E7A-F9630C569542@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F6DDB7A-49DB-41CF-9CCF-628CC58E305C@ipjustice.org> Agreed that we should send Caleb as the replacement given the short notice for sending someone. Thank you, Robin > On Jan 17, 2023, at 6:00 AM, Bolutife Adisa via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Thanks for the info Johan. > > I think Caleb is a good choice for the replacement. Among many other reasons, I would like to add that he?s also coordinating our community outreach with the fellows, it would be nice to have him on ground while some of us offer support remotely. > > Best, > Bolutife Adisa. > >> On 17. Jan 2023, at 11:32, Johan Helsingius wrote: >> >> ?Stephanie has notified me that she won't be able to attend ICANN76 >> in person, so we have a travel slot we can reassign. >> >> Our operating procedures have a rather complicated process >> for travel slot reassignment, involving a general call for >> Motivation Statements, but as there is a tight time pressure, >> I would be inclined to bypass the full procedure. >> >> Caleb has expressed and interest, and Stephanie supports >> reassigning the travel slot to him. Would you be OK >> with giving Caleb the travel slot? >> >> Julf >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From andrea.glandon at icann.org Tue Jan 17 23:33:04 2023 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:33:04 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Please read: ICANN Org ALL HANDS meeting February 6 - 9 2023 Message-ID: <94EA954F-8861-49C5-A52A-654FC0C5C717@icann.org> Dear all, As per the Board resolution passed in November 2022, ICANN org plans to hold the first ICANN Org All-Hands meeting in Los Angeles, California, from 6 ? 9 February 2023. As such, call and email coverage during that week will be minimal, and responses may be delayed. 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Kind Regards, Andrea From: Terri Agnew Date: Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 To: Paul McGrady , Andrea Glandon , Brenda Brewer Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" Subject: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request Dear Andrea and Brenda, Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings. Thank you for any help provided! Kindest regards, Terri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Robin > On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hello leadership, > > Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be added to future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations. > > Thanks! > Kind Regards, > Andrea > > > From: Terri Agnew > > Date: Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 > To: Paul McGrady >, Andrea Glandon >, Brenda Brewer > > Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org " > > Subject: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request > > Dear Andrea and Brenda, > > Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings. > > Thank you for any help provided! > > Kindest regards, > > Terri > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 22:57:22 2023 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 07:57:22 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Greetings all. When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being discussed at the council; however, he should *NOT* be present during internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite him being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could jointly have a chat to clarify this. Warmly, Tomslin @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: > Fine with me. Thank you. > > Best, > Robin > > On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > Hello leadership, > > Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be added to > future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations. > > Thanks! > Kind Regards, > Andrea > > > *From: *Terri Agnew > *Date: *Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 > *To: *Paul McGrady , Andrea Glandon < > andrea.glandon at icann.org>, Brenda Brewer > *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" > *Subject: *NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request > > Dear Andrea and Brenda, > > Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he > could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their > meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings. > > Thank you for any help provided! > > Kindest regards, > > Terri > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 23:14:33 2023 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:14:33 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Representing NPOC in the EC and reviewing how sensitive this could turn out, please permit me to have this discussion with my EC in NPOC. However, in my personal opinion not wearing any cap, I share your sentiments and would want us to find a middle ground where we can have safe spaces for everyone to engage actively. On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 2:57 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Greetings all. > > When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy meeting, > there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate and engage > with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being discussed at the > council; however, he should *NOT* be present during internal NCSG debates > of those policies. The rationale was that despite him being an NCA > councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his presence during > internal debates will give members a sense that an adversary is present and > will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. > > If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could > jointly have a chat to clarify this. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Fine with me. Thank you. >> >> Best, >> Robin >> >> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC < >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >> Hello leadership, >> >> Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be added to >> future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations. >> >> Thanks! >> Kind Regards, >> Andrea >> >> >> *From: *Terri Agnew >> *Date: *Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 >> *To: *Paul McGrady , Andrea Glandon < >> andrea.glandon at icann.org>, Brenda Brewer >> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" >> *Subject: *NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request >> >> Dear Andrea and Brenda, >> >> Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he >> could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their >> meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings. >> >> Thank you for any help provided! >> >> Kindest regards, >> >> Terri >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 23:17:04 2023 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:17:04 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: One alternative would be to issue the invitations on a case by case basis. When we consider the agenda to not be sensitive he could join, otherwise not. My only concern is this: the presence of someone not affiliated with the NCSG could result on some disturbances to our internal discussions. Best, B On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:14 PM Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Representing NPOC in the EC and reviewing how sensitive this could turn > out, please permit me to have this discussion with my EC in NPOC. > > However, in my personal opinion not wearing any cap, I share your > sentiments and would want us to find a middle ground where we can have safe > spaces for everyone to engage actively. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 2:57 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Greetings all. >> >> When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy >> meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate >> and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being >> discussed at the council; however, he should *NOT* be present during >> internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite him >> being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his >> presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an >> adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. >> >> If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could >> jointly have a chat to clarify this. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ >> >> >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC < >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >>> Fine with me. Thank you. >>> >>> Best, >>> Robin >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC < >>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >>> >>> Hello leadership, >>> >>> Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be added to >>> future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Kind Regards, >>> Andrea >>> >>> >>> *From: *Terri Agnew >>> *Date: *Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 >>> *To: *Paul McGrady , Andrea Glandon < >>> andrea.glandon at icann.org>, Brenda Brewer >>> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" >>> *Subject: *NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request >>> >>> Dear Andrea and Brenda, >>> >>> Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he >>> could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their >>> meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings. >>> >>> Thank you for any help provided! >>> >>> Kindest regards, >>> >>> Terri >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin f?r Sozialforschung (WZB) Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu * and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Mon Jan 23 17:44:26 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:44:26 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: It is a tricky dilemma. I am all for as much transparency as possible, and we have to remember that both the EC and PC mailing lists are public (not to mention NCSG-discuss). On the other hand, I am not sure I like the idea of having an outsider in our actual EC or PC meetings. Our public membership meetings are of course a different matter. Maybe, as Bruna suggested, do it on a case-by-case basis. Julf On 20/01/2023 21:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC wrote: > Greetings all. > > When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy > meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate > and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being > discussed at the council; however, he should *NOT* be present during > internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite > him being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his > presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an > adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. > > If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could > jointly have a chat to clarify this. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > Fine with me.? Thank you. > > Best, > Robin > >> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC >> > wrote: >> >> Hello leadership,____ >> __ __ >> Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be >> added to future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations.____ >> __ __ >> Thanks!____ >> Kind Regards,____ >> Andrea____ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> *From:*Terri Agnew > > >> *Date:*Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 >> *To:*Paul McGrady > >, Andrea Glandon >> >, >> Brenda Brewer > > >> *Cc:*"gnso-secs at icann.org " >> > >> *Subject:*NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request____ >> __ __ >> Dear Andrea and Brenda, >> __ __ >> Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking >> if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties >> have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start >> attending these meetings. >> __ __ >> Thank you for any help provided! >> __ __ >> Kindest regards, >> __ __ >> Terri >> __ __ >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From andrea.glandon at icann.org Mon Jan 23 23:58:05 2023 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 21:58:05 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Hello EC, I have responded to Paul and let him know that invitations would be on an as needed basis. I will make a note to myself to ask this list before each monthly meeting. Please let me know if there is anything else you would like me to communicate to Paul. Thanks! Kind Regards, Andrea ?On 1/23/23, 09:45, "NCSG-EC on behalf of Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC" wrote: It is a tricky dilemma. I am all for as much transparency as possible, and we have to remember that both the EC and PC mailing lists are public (not to mention NCSG-discuss). On the other hand, I am not sure I like the idea of having an outsider in our actual EC or PC meetings. Our public membership meetings are of course a different matter. Maybe, as Bruna suggested, do it on a case-by-case basis. Julf On 20/01/2023 21:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC wrote: > Greetings all. > > When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy > meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate > and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being > discussed at the council; however, he should *NOT* be present during > internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite > him being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his > presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an > adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. > > If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could > jointly have a chat to clarify this. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNTHJ4AbKQ$ [linkedin[.]com] > > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > Fine with me. Thank you. > > Best, > Robin > >> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC >> > wrote: >> >> Hello leadership,____ >> __ __ >> Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be >> added to future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations.____ >> __ __ >> Thanks!____ >> Kind Regards,____ >> Andrea____ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> *From:*Terri Agnew > > >> *Date:*Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 >> *To:*Paul McGrady > >, Andrea Glandon >> >, >> Brenda Brewer > > >> *Cc:*"gnso-secs at icann.org " >> > >> *Subject:*NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request____ >> __ __ >> Dear Andrea and Brenda, >> __ __ >> Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking >> if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties >> have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start >> attending these meetings. >> __ __ >> Thank you for any help provided! >> __ __ >> Kindest regards, >> __ __ >> Terri >> __ __ >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] >> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 24 12:05:33 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:05:33 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] member applications Message-ID: Dear NCSG EC, Trying to deal with the embarrassing backlog of membership application approvals, I went through all the pending applications. Seems we have managed to approve (as in all who have commented have given a "yes") all of 6 applications for individual and 3 applications for organizational membership (well, 4 if one counts the somewhat odd-sounding "#DearGovernments Organisation". There are "no" votes on 17 organisations (because they haven't provided statement of interest and/or domain name) and 9 individuals (3 with no reason provided, 3 because of not enough information, and 3 because they are not seen as non-commercial). There are 4 individual applications (including one prominent former board member) with no comments or votes, same for 2 organisations that seem to have, according to CiviCRM, applied for membership in NCUC & NPOC, but not NCSG - is that possible? There are 17 new individual and 3 organizational applications since our last EC meeting. How do we proceed? I suggest we consider the 9 with all "yes" votes and the 6 ones with no comments (and thus no "no" votes) approved. For the 17 organisations that haven't provided statement of interest or domain name, I suggest we deny the applications but ask them to resubmit, providing the needed information. For the 9 individuals that have gotten a "no" vote, I would appreciate if you could fill in a valid reason for denying the application. We can as the 3 with not enough information to resubmit with more information, but as for the 3 that are not seen as non-commercial, I would like to understand what the judgement is based on - it is of course OK to say "I have confidential inside information that I can tell in person". Hopefully this would allow us to get rid of the backlog clogging up CiviCRM and get back to a more normal situation. Comments/opinions? Julf From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 24 12:49:38 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:49:38 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: FW: NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request In-Reply-To: References: <874F99E7-5BC8-468C-9ED1-2C5C44FB2825@icann.org> <68D2A2C4-4FBB-4C08-BAD7-9D4377C5E45D@icann.org> <3B665BD2-C4A3-418A-AACC-F2766E14481B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Thanks Andrea! Julf On 23/01/2023 22:58, Andrea Glandon wrote: > Hello EC, > > I have responded to Paul and let him know that invitations would be on an as needed basis. I will make a note to myself to ask this list before each monthly meeting. Please let me know if there is anything else you would like me to communicate to Paul. > > Thanks! > Kind Regards, > Andrea > > > ?On 1/23/23, 09:45, "NCSG-EC on behalf of Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC" wrote: > > It is a tricky dilemma. I am all for as much transparency as possible, > and we have to remember that both the EC and PC mailing lists are public > (not to mention NCSG-discuss). On the other hand, I am not sure I like > the idea of having an outsider in our actual EC or PC meetings. Our > public membership meetings are of course a different matter. > > Maybe, as Bruna suggested, do it on a case-by-case basis. > > Julf > > > On 20/01/2023 21:57, Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Greetings all. > > > > When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy > > meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate > > and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being > > discussed at the council; however, he should *NOT* be present during > > internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite > > him being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his > > presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an > > adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate. > > > > If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could > > jointly have a chat to clarify this. > > > > Warmly, > > Tomslin > > @LinkedIn: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNTHJ4AbKQ$ [linkedin[.]com] > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC > > > wrote: > > > > Fine with me. Thank you. > > > > Best, > > Robin > > > >> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC > >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hello leadership,____ > >> __ __ > >> Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be > >> added to future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations.____ > >> __ __ > >> Thanks!____ > >> Kind Regards,____ > >> Andrea____ > >> __ __ > >> __ __ > >> *From:*Terri Agnew >> > > >> *Date:*Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16 > >> *To:*Paul McGrady >> >, Andrea Glandon > >> >, > >> Brenda Brewer >> > > >> *Cc:*"gnso-secs at icann.org " > >> > > >> *Subject:*NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request____ > >> __ __ > >> Dear Andrea and Brenda, > >> __ __ > >> Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking > >> if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties > >> have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start > >> attending these meetings. > >> __ __ > >> Thank you for any help provided! > >> __ __ > >> Kindest regards, > >> __ __ > >> Terri > >> __ __ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NCSG-EC mailing list > >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!8mekjQDjhosdoX9Ftch7lUZ9qpYEuQ22Chqb6K5MvPqIcVR1vq60w4oJE3J7cbJVRB1i8e15JIdbKC-SSzGhuNRPTC7cew$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] > From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 24 16:10:50 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:10:50 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG Financial Committee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9576ebb6-0c76-d47c-1658-3c2cd05d84ce@Julf.com> FYI Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: NCSG Financial Committee Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:59:04 +0200 From: Raoul Plommer To: Johan Helsingius CC: benakin at gmail.com Hello there, Our rep in the Finance Committee is Jean Francois Queralt. :) Cheers! -Raoul On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 at 18:00, Johan Helsingius > wrote: Gentlemen, Just a reminder... I hereby invite you to nominate one representative each to the NCSG Financial Committee for your constituencies. Kind regards, ? ? ? ? Julf From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 24 16:58:50 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:58:50 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Work Stream 2 Recommendations Message-ID: Dear all, CANN org conducted a mapping inventory of WS2 Recommendations 2 and 6 (Good Faith and Accountability) for each Supporting Organization (SO), Advisory Committee (AC), Regional At Large Organization (RALO), GNSO Stakeholder Group (SG), and GNSO Constituency (C). The inventory they produced for NCSG is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxPZjIjrjLBiKjcgWKbhhxWhbsBdcRudCqRDl4W5UlY/edit#gid=0 We are asked to confirm the accuracy of the list and determine if further work is needed. The specific points are: -SO/AC/Groups should document their procedures for non-members to challenge decisions regarding their eligibility to become a member. - SO/AC/Groups should document unwritten procedures and customs that have been developed in the course of practice, and make them part of their procedural operation documents, charters, and/or bylaws. - Each year, SO/AC/Groups should publish a brief report on what they have done during the prior year to improve accountability, transparency, and participation, describe where they might have fallen short, and any plans for future improvements. - Where membership must be applied for, there should be a process of appeal when application for membership is rejected. - Each SO/AC/Group should create a committee (of appropriate size) to manage outreach programs to attract additional eligible members, particularly from parts of their targeted community that may not be adequately participating. - Outreach objectives and potential activities should be mentioned in SO/AC/Group bylaws, charter, or procedures - Each SO/AC/Group should have a strategy for outreach to parts of their targeted community that may not be significantly participating at the time, while also seeking diversity within membership. - Each SO/AC/Group should review its policies and procedures at regular intervals and make changes to operational procedures and charter as indicated by the review. - Members of SO/AC/Groups should be involved in reviews of policies and procedures and should approve any revisions. - Internal reviews of SO/AC/Group policies and procedures should not be prolonged for more than one year, and temporary measures should be considered if the review extends longer. Is this in the domain of the PC or the EC? Would it make sense to try to form a small team to look at this? From plommer at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 15:59:04 2023 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:59:04 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Financial Committee In-Reply-To: <5e91eb5d-588b-729e-2a33-deba07a873e9@Julf.com> References: <5e91eb5d-588b-729e-2a33-deba07a873e9@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hello there, Our rep in the Finance Committee is Jean Francois Queralt. :) Cheers! -Raoul On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 at 18:00, Johan Helsingius wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Just a reminder... > > I hereby invite you to nominate one representative each to the NCSG > Financial Committee for your constituencies. > > Kind regards, > > Julf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Jan 25 08:42:12 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 07:42:12 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Board Seat 14 Vetting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Board Seat 14 Vetting Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:12:41 +0000 From: Lori Schulman To: Johan Helsingius CC: mason.cole at appdetex.com , philippe.fouquart at orange.com Dear Julf, Happy 2023!? I hope that you had a good rest during the holiday break.? I am back from extended leave and looking forward to moving ahead with all things ICANN -- including the filling of Board Seat 14.?? As it is CSG?s turn in the nomination cycle, I wanted to let you know that we have begun the vetting process and will produce a nominee within the prescribed time frame.? ?Of course, we will be considering the reappointment of Matthew Shears.?? As Matthew was the NCSG nominee, we are asking whether NCSG still supports Matthew in this position or would you would like us to consider another candidate?? As Board Seat 14 represents both CSG and NCSG, this seems only fair. Please let me know your SG?s thoughts and if you wish to organize a call, we are happy to do so. See you online and in Cancun. With kind regards, Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy *International Trademark Association (INTA)* +1-202-704-0408, Skype:? LSSchulman lschulman at inta.org , www.inta.org Find us on: Twitter Description: LinkedIn LinkedIn Description: facebook-logo (2) Facebook From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Jan 25 17:37:22 2023 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:37:22 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Board Seat 14 Vetting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would reply that NCSG still supports Matthew. Tapani On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > FYI > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Board Seat 14 Vetting > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:12:41 +0000 > From: Lori Schulman > To: Johan Helsingius > CC: mason.cole at appdetex.com , > philippe.fouquart at orange.com > > > > Dear Julf, > > Happy 2023!? I hope that you had a good rest during the holiday break.? I am > back from extended leave and looking forward to moving ahead with all things > ICANN -- including the filling of Board Seat 14.?? As it is CSG?s turn in > the nomination cycle, I wanted to let you know that we have begun the > vetting process and will produce a nominee within the prescribed time > frame.? ?Of course, we will be considering the reappointment of Matthew > Shears.?? As Matthew was the NCSG nominee, we are asking whether NCSG still > supports Matthew in this position or would you would like us to consider > another candidate?? As Board Seat 14 represents both CSG and NCSG, this > seems only fair. > > Please let me know your SG?s thoughts and if you wish to organize a call, we > are happy to do so. > > See you online and in Cancun. > > With kind regards, > > Lori S. Schulman > > Senior Director, Internet Policy > > *International Trademark Association (INTA)* > > +1-202-704-0408, Skype:? LSSchulman > > lschulman at inta.org , www.inta.org > > > Find us on: Twitter Description: LinkedIn > LinkedIn > Description: facebook-logo (2) Facebook > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -- Tapani Tarvainen From julf at Julf.com Wed Jan 25 18:02:15 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:02:15 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Board Seat 14 Vetting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22b3c1db-2922-284d-412b-0605a0245e3f@Julf.com> Definitely. Already did that, and pointed out that the the nomination cycle should only change turns after a board member has served fully. We just have to remember that that works both ways. Julf On 25/01/2023 16:37, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: > I would reply that NCSG still supports Matthew. > > Tapani > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >> >> FYI >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Board Seat 14 Vetting >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:12:41 +0000 >> From: Lori Schulman >> To: Johan Helsingius >> CC: mason.cole at appdetex.com , >> philippe.fouquart at orange.com >> >> >> >> Dear Julf, >> >> Happy 2023!? I hope that you had a good rest during the holiday break.? I am >> back from extended leave and looking forward to moving ahead with all things >> ICANN -- including the filling of Board Seat 14.?? As it is CSG?s turn in >> the nomination cycle, I wanted to let you know that we have begun the >> vetting process and will produce a nominee within the prescribed time >> frame.? ?Of course, we will be considering the reappointment of Matthew >> Shears.?? As Matthew was the NCSG nominee, we are asking whether NCSG still >> supports Matthew in this position or would you would like us to consider >> another candidate?? As Board Seat 14 represents both CSG and NCSG, this >> seems only fair. >> >> Please let me know your SG?s thoughts and if you wish to organize a call, we >> are happy to do so. >> >> See you online and in Cancun. >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Lori S. Schulman >> >> Senior Director, Internet Policy >> >> *International Trademark Association (INTA)* >> >> +1-202-704-0408, Skype:? LSSchulman >> >> lschulman at inta.org , www.inta.org >> >> >> Find us on: Twitter Description: LinkedIn >> LinkedIn >> Description: facebook-logo (2) Facebook >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 03:23:04 2023 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:23:04 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Board Seat 14 Vetting In-Reply-To: <22b3c1db-2922-284d-412b-0605a0245e3f@Julf.com> References: <22b3c1db-2922-284d-412b-0605a0245e3f@Julf.com> Message-ID: +1 obviously on still supporting Matthew. So it's not CSG's turn this time, then? David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:02 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Definitely. Already did that, and pointed out that the the nomination > cycle should only change turns after a board member has served fully. > We just have to remember that that works both ways. > > Julf > > > On 25/01/2023 16:37, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: > > I would reply that NCSG still supports Matthew. > > > > Tapani > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC ( > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > >> > >> FYI > >> > >> > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >> Subject: Board Seat 14 Vetting > >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:12:41 +0000 > >> From: Lori Schulman > >> To: Johan Helsingius > >> CC: mason.cole at appdetex.com , > >> philippe.fouquart at orange.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Julf, > >> > >> Happy 2023! I hope that you had a good rest during the holiday break. > I am > >> back from extended leave and looking forward to moving ahead with all > things > >> ICANN -- including the filling of Board Seat 14. As it is CSG?s turn > in > >> the nomination cycle, I wanted to let you know that we have begun the > >> vetting process and will produce a nominee within the prescribed time > >> frame. Of course, we will be considering the reappointment of Matthew > >> Shears. As Matthew was the NCSG nominee, we are asking whether NCSG > still > >> supports Matthew in this position or would you would like us to consider > >> another candidate? As Board Seat 14 represents both CSG and NCSG, this > >> seems only fair. > >> > >> Please let me know your SG?s thoughts and if you wish to organize a > call, we > >> are happy to do so. > >> > >> See you online and in Cancun. > >> > >> With kind regards, > >> > >> Lori S. Schulman > >> > >> Senior Director, Internet Policy > >> > >> *International Trademark Association (INTA)* > >> > >> +1-202-704-0408, Skype: LSSchulman > >> > >> lschulman at inta.org , www.inta.org > >> > >> > >> Find us on: Twitter Description: LinkedIn > >> LinkedIn > >> Description: facebook-logo (2) Facebook > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NCSG-EC mailing list > >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 03:27:01 2023 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:27:01 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] member applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for the delay on this. I generally agree with the proposed idea on the consensus ones. My portal is showing several George Sadowsky applications, not sure if that's the same for all. I'm going through and making sure my NOs are not without comments, and voting on all new members, as well. Thank you very much, Have a great day, David David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:05 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear NCSG EC, > > Trying to deal with the embarrassing backlog of membership application > approvals, I went through all the pending applications. > > Seems we have managed to approve (as in all who have commented have > given a "yes") all of 6 applications for individual and 3 applications > for organizational membership (well, 4 if one counts the somewhat > odd-sounding "#DearGovernments Organisation". There are "no" votes > on 17 organisations (because they haven't provided statement of interest > and/or domain name) and 9 individuals (3 with no reason provided, 3 > because of not enough information, and 3 because they are not seen as > non-commercial). > > There are 4 individual applications (including one prominent former > board member) with no comments or votes, same for 2 organisations > that seem to have, according to CiviCRM, applied for membership in > NCUC & NPOC, but not NCSG - is that possible? > > There are 17 new individual and 3 organizational applications > since our last EC meeting. > > How do we proceed? I suggest we consider the 9 with all "yes" votes > and the 6 ones with no comments (and thus no "no" votes) approved. > > For the 17 organisations that haven't provided statement of interest > or domain name, I suggest we deny the applications but ask them to > resubmit, providing the needed information. > > For the 9 individuals that have gotten a "no" vote, I would appreciate > if you could fill in a valid reason for denying the application. We can > as the 3 with not enough information to resubmit with more information, > but as for the 3 that are not seen as non-commercial, I would like > to understand what the judgement is based on - it is of course OK to > say "I have confidential inside information that I can tell in person". > > Hopefully this would allow us to get rid of the backlog clogging up > CiviCRM and get back to a more normal situation. > > Comments/opinions? > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Jan 26 15:59:50 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 14:59:50 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] member applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <556a0f22-ce20-1633-45b8-c4d5aec95583@Julf.com> Thanks, David - and yes, there are duplicates. I hope we can get rid of them once we are done with this batch. Julf On 26/01/2023 02:27, David Morar wrote: > Sorry for the delay on this. I generally agree with the proposed idea on > the?consensus ones. My portal is showing several George Sadowsky > applications, not sure if that's the same for all. I'm going through and > making sure my NOs are not without comments, and voting on all new > members, as well. > Thank you very much, > Have a great day, > David > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:05 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > Dear NCSG EC, > > Trying to deal with the embarrassing backlog of membership application > approvals, I went through all the pending applications. > > Seems we have managed to approve (as in all who have commented have > given a "yes") all of 6 applications for individual and 3 applications > for organizational membership (well, 4 if one counts the somewhat > odd-sounding "#DearGovernments Organisation". There are "no" votes > on 17 organisations (because they haven't provided statement of interest > and/or domain name) and 9 individuals (3 with no reason provided, 3 > because of not enough information, and 3 because they are not seen as > non-commercial). > > There are 4 individual applications (including one prominent former > board member) with no comments or votes, same for 2 organisations > that seem to have, according to CiviCRM, applied for membership in > NCUC & NPOC, but not NCSG - is that possible? > > There are 17 new individual and 3 organizational applications > since our last EC meeting. > > How do we proceed? I suggest we consider the 9 with all "yes" votes > and the 6 ones with no comments (and thus no "no" votes) approved. > > For the 17 organisations that haven't provided statement of interest > or domain name, I suggest we deny the applications but ask them to > resubmit, providing the needed information. > > For the 9 individuals that have gotten a "no" vote, I would appreciate > if you could fill in a valid reason for denying the application. We can > as the 3 with not enough information to resubmit with more information, > but as for the 3 that are not seen as non-commercial, I would like > to understand what the judgement is based on - it is of course OK to > say "I have confidential inside information that I can tell in person". > > Hopefully this would allow us to get rid of the backlog clogging up > CiviCRM and get back to a more normal situation. > > Comments/opinions? > > ? ? ? ? Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From andrea.glandon at icann.org Thu Jan 26 19:19:02 2023 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:19:02 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] REMINDER: ICANN77 Travel Database Message-ID: <3BD5D142-E5DE-41F0-8C03-79007AC66EF1@icann.org> Hello! I am writing to let leadership know that the travel database for ICANN77 (12-15 June 2023) will be due on Monday, 13 February 2023. Please consider starting the conversation sooner rather than later. Thank you! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Jan 31 18:17:34 2023 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 17:17:34 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Pre-ICANN76 CEO Call topics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90cb80e8-2c0d-6ff3-cacd-eab16665cd6c@Julf.com> It is getting to be time for the pre-ICANN76 calls with the CEO. What topics do you want me to bring up? Remember that the CEO is not the Board, and that Sally Costerton is Interim CEO and president, so probably just temporarily in that position. Julf