[NCSG-EC] Fwd: Fwd: member applications

[David Morar]

I just went through all of them. Only one was a no from me (and it seems
from everyone else) as their website didn't work.
Julf, it might be useful to go through them again since it seems like you
haven't voted for a bunch of them!

David Morar, PhD
@morar <https://twitter.com/morar>
davidmorar.com


On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Dear NCSG-EC members, how are we doing on this?
>
>         Julf
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Fwd: member applications
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:28:36 +0100
> From: Johan Helsingius <julf at Julf.com>
> To: NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Dear NCSG EC,
>
> Now that we have discovered that a lot of the membership applications
> we couldn't approve because they hadn't provided enough information
> had actually provided the required information, but CiviCRM didn't
> show it, I have to ask you to go back and look at the new applications
> you have voted "no" on (as well as the ones you haven't voted on) and
> reconsider your approval/disapproval. If your answer still is "no",
> please provide a reason.
>
> Especially considering the ICANN mapping inventory of WS2
> Recommendations 2 and 6 (Good Faith and Accountability) highlighted
> our lack of a process of appeal when application for membership is
> rejected. I feel we can only deny applications for two reasons:
>
> 1) the applicant doesn't satisfy the membership requirements
>     stated in our charter
> 2) you have (possibly confidential) information that indicates
>     the applicant violates our rules and ethical guidelines or
>     is not supporting our goals
>
> In the case of confidential reasons, please share them with
> me (confidentially and privately) by email.
>
> Could we please have all applications reviewed and updated
> a week from now?
>
>         Julf
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: member applications
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:05:33 +0100
> From: Johan Helsingius <julf at Julf.com>
> To: NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Dear NCSG EC,
>
> Trying to deal with the embarrassing backlog of membership application
> approvals, I went through all the pending applications.
>
> Seems we have managed to approve (as in all who have commented have
> given a "yes") all of 6 applications for individual and 3 applications
> for organizational membership (well, 4 if one counts the somewhat
> odd-sounding "#DearGovernments Organisation". There are "no" votes
> on 17 organisations (because they haven't provided statement of interest
> and/or domain name) and 9 individuals (3 with no reason provided, 3
> because of not enough information, and 3 because they are not seen as
> non-commercial).
>
> There are 4 individual applications (including one prominent former
> board member) with no comments or votes, same for 2 organisations
> that seem to have, according to CiviCRM, applied for membership in
> NCUC & NPOC, but not NCSG - is that possible?
>
> There are 17 new individual and 3 organizational applications
> since our last EC meeting.
>
> How do we proceed? I suggest we consider the 9 with all "yes" votes
> and the 6 ones with no comments (and thus no "no" votes) approved.
>
> For the 17 organisations that haven't provided statement of interest
> or domain name, I suggest we deny the applications but ask them to
> resubmit, providing the needed information.
>
> For the 9 individuals that have gotten a "no" vote, I would appreciate
> if you could fill in a valid reason for denying the application. We can
> as the 3 with not enough information to resubmit with more information,
> but as for the 3 that are not seen as non-commercial, I would like
> to understand what the judgement is based on - it is of course OK to
> say "I have confidential inside information that I can tell in person".
>
> Hopefully this would allow us to get rid of the backlog clogging up
> CiviCRM and get back to a more normal situation.
>
> Comments/opinions?
>
>         Julf
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