[NCSG-EC] Fwd: member applications

David Morar davidcristianmorar at gmail.com
Wed Feb 15 19:26:57 EET 2023


Sorry for the additional question, but is there a way for us to get to the
place where we can access all the info that wasn't shown to us on the first
go-around?

David Morar, PhD
@morar <https://twitter.com/morar>
davidmorar.com


On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:28 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Dear NCSG EC,
>
> Now that we have discovered that a lot of the membership applications
> we couldn't approve because they hadn't provided enough information
> had actually provided the required information, but CiviCRM didn't
> show it, I have to ask you to go back and look at the new applications
> you have voted "no" on (as well as the ones you haven't voted on) and
> reconsider your approval/disapproval. If your answer still is "no",
> please provide a reason.
>
> Especially considering the ICANN mapping inventory of WS2
> Recommendations 2 and 6 (Good Faith and Accountability) highlighted
> our lack of a process of appeal when application for membership is
> rejected. I feel we can only deny applications for two reasons:
>
> 1) the applicant doesn't satisfy the membership requirements
>     stated in our charter
> 2) you have (possibly confidential) information that indicates
>     the applicant violates our rules and ethical guidelines or
>     is not supporting our goals
>
> In the case of confidential reasons, please share them with
> me (confidentially and privately) by email.
>
> Could we please have all applications reviewed and updated
> a week from now?
>
>         Julf
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: member applications
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:05:33 +0100
> From: Johan Helsingius <julf at Julf.com>
> To: NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Dear NCSG EC,
>
> Trying to deal with the embarrassing backlog of membership application
> approvals, I went through all the pending applications.
>
> Seems we have managed to approve (as in all who have commented have
> given a "yes") all of 6 applications for individual and 3 applications
> for organizational membership (well, 4 if one counts the somewhat
> odd-sounding "#DearGovernments Organisation". There are "no" votes
> on 17 organisations (because they haven't provided statement of interest
> and/or domain name) and 9 individuals (3 with no reason provided, 3
> because of not enough information, and 3 because they are not seen as
> non-commercial).
>
> There are 4 individual applications (including one prominent former
> board member) with no comments or votes, same for 2 organisations
> that seem to have, according to CiviCRM, applied for membership in
> NCUC & NPOC, but not NCSG - is that possible?
>
> There are 17 new individual and 3 organizational applications
> since our last EC meeting.
>
> How do we proceed? I suggest we consider the 9 with all "yes" votes
> and the 6 ones with no comments (and thus no "no" votes) approved.
>
> For the 17 organisations that haven't provided statement of interest
> or domain name, I suggest we deny the applications but ask them to
> resubmit, providing the needed information.
>
> For the 9 individuals that have gotten a "no" vote, I would appreciate
> if you could fill in a valid reason for denying the application. We can
> as the 3 with not enough information to resubmit with more information,
> but as for the 3 that are not seen as non-commercial, I would like
> to understand what the judgement is based on - it is of course OK to
> say "I have confidential inside information that I can tell in person".
>
> Hopefully this would allow us to get rid of the backlog clogging up
> CiviCRM and get back to a more normal situation.
>
> Comments/opinions?
>
>         Julf
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