From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Tue Nov 1 11:13:19 2022 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:13:19 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] CiviCRM / applications: duplicate handling Message-ID: Hi all, It appears the CiviCRM approval form doesn't handle duplicates gracefully, and what's more it sometimes generates lots of them by itself - in particular, if someone applies twice they may show up to six time on the list. :-| There were several instances with multiple identical applications; hopefully all of these have now been cleared, but some may remain. In one case there're two conflicting applications, one including NCUC and the other (later one) not. In this case we probably should ask for clarification. (You can identify them by the fact that they appear lots of times there. I won't post personal information here, as this list is publicly archived.) In another case an organization is there twice with somewhat different information (as "ISOC Chapter" and as "Internet Society Chapter"); again, more information should be sought. Incidentally, it would be very useful if there was more data of organizations in the "view details" -form, in particular the representative(s) and their emails. Now it apparently takes admin rights to dig that info up. -- Tapani Tarvainen From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Tue Nov 1 14:30:00 2022 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 07:30:00 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] CiviCRM / applications: duplicate handling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What I feel is we should do is also implement form validation at the front end fields also. If email is validated it is one of our multiple ways of pruning down duplicate and letting applicants know they have applied. On Tue., Nov. 1, 2022, 4:13 a.m. Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC, < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Hi all, > > It appears the CiviCRM approval form doesn't handle duplicates > gracefully, and what's more it sometimes generates lots of > them by itself - in particular, if someone applies twice they > may show up to six time on the list. :-| > > There were several instances with multiple identical applications; > hopefully all of these have now been cleared, but some may remain. > > In one case there're two conflicting applications, one including NCUC > and the other (later one) not. In this case we probably should ask for > clarification. (You can identify them by the fact that they appear > lots of times there. 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With kind regards, Julf From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 2 12:14:42 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 11:14:42 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Tech team and tech team mailing list Message-ID: Dear EC members, I suggest that we (I) send a message to the old tech team mailing list announcing the new tech team initiative, and asking anyone who is genuinely interested to contribute (and has the necessary skills) to contact Caleb and Tapani. After that I suggest we remove everyone (except Tapani and Caleb) from the list, and then only add the truly interested people. We should then also sent the same message to the general discussion list. Opinions? Julf From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Nov 2 16:01:40 2022 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 16:01:40 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Change of status Message-ID: Dear EC, The following was sent to NCUC-DISCUSS. I advised Hakikur to apply for an individual membership, and we should obviously remove SDNP Bangladesh (Hakikur was its official representative so I guess we can take his word for its demise). I'll leave it up to Julf to decide whether the removal should be explicitly decided in our next meeting or just noted here. Tapani ----- Forwarded message from Hakikur Rahman ----- To whom it may concern: Hello, I, Hakikur Rahman is a member of NCUC and representing SDNP Bangladesh. However, as the mentioned organization ceased to exist, I like to continue as an individual member of NCUC representing my own domain. I appreciate the procedure to change the status. Thanking in advance. Best regards, Hakikur mailto:email at hakik.org _______________________________________________ Ncuc-discuss mailing list Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Tapani Tarvainen From julf at Julf.com Sun Nov 6 19:29:44 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 18:29:44 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Councillors - travel to ICANN76 In-Reply-To: <318660BB-99C9-4728-AE28-AC9D3919A9E0@benin2point0.org> References: <79ba998e-3321-e117-ff74-b54add06b841@Julf.com> <318660BB-99C9-4728-AE28-AC9D3919A9E0@benin2point0.org> Message-ID: <56529f46-bacf-4f2e-3839-f686de667fa8@Julf.com> Hi all, So seems Bruna, Stephanie, Manju, Wisdom and Farrell are all intending to attend in person, and Tomslin won't know until in December. Julf From andrea.glandon at icann.org Thu Nov 10 00:31:17 2022 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 22:31:17 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN76 Sessions Message-ID: Hello Executive Committees! I would like to start the conversation about the NCSG/NPOC/NCUC sessions for ICANN76. Are there other groups you would like to meet with? Specific topics that you would like to discuss? These are the questions and discussions that need to begin now. I am attaching the slide deck from the first production call. Thank you! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I made sure to vote in the terminal, which also allows for comments. I would suggest we all use the terminal to vote so that we have a track record for all of this. Thank you very much, Have a great day, David David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:21 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear EC members, > > It is now two weeks since our meeting. I haven't seen anyone raising > any new issues with the new member applications, so I am assuming we > can go ahead and approve all except the two that we had issues with. > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Mon Nov 14 17:25:44 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 16:25:44 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> Message-ID: <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> David, I think you are right, going forward we should use terminal, but considering the backlog and delay we have right now, I think waiting for everyone to go through the somewhat click-intensive process for every applicant in the queue would add a lot of additional delay. I feel we had a chance to discuss the approval during our meeting, we had concerns with a couple of applicants, and Robin asked for some time to review the applications. We agreed on a week. At some point we just have to make a decision and move on. Julf On 14/11/2022 14:59, David Morar wrote: > Julf, > Thank you for your email reminding us about this. I made sure to vote in > the terminal, which also allows for comments. I would suggest we all use > the terminal to vote so that we have a track record for all of this. > Thank you very much, > Have a great day, > David > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:21 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > Dear EC members, > > It is now two weeks since our meeting. I haven't seen anyone raising > any new issues with the new member applications, so I am assuming we > can go ahead and approve all except the two that we had issues with. > > ? ? ? ? Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Mon Nov 14 17:55:08 2022 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 17:55:08 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> Message-ID: Absolutely! I went through some of the applications and have decided to vote no on the following individual members because they do not look to be in fact representing non-commercial perspectives. I may be mistaken, and if that is the case, please let me know, but I think from last time, it was @Robin Gross who pointed out that we have to make sue they are actually representing such perspectives. In any case, the list of folks: Gabriel Karsan - not non-commercial oriented Prince Andrew Livingstone Zutah - not non-commercial oriented Betty Fausta - not non-commercial oriented Arnold Alimo - not non-commercial oriented Hafiz Faooq - not non-commercial oriented Gaurav Vedi - not non-commercial oriented Separately, one person Jacklyn Appiah Sakyi does not have enough info to figure out if they are in fact non-commercial in their non-egigfa position. But since the vote does not have to be unanimous, I think it's safe to move forward with my no votes, unless others feel similarly. Thank you very much, Have a great day, David David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 5:25 PM Johan Helsingius wrote: > David, > > I think you are right, going forward we should use terminal, > but considering the backlog and delay we have right now, > I think waiting for everyone to go through the somewhat > click-intensive process for every applicant in the queue > would add a lot of additional delay. > > I feel we had a chance to discuss the approval during our > meeting, we had concerns with a couple of applicants, and > Robin asked for some time to review the applications. We > agreed on a week. At some point we just have to make a > decision and move on. > > Julf > > > On 14/11/2022 14:59, David Morar wrote: > > Julf, > > Thank you for your email reminding us about this. I made sure to vote in > > the terminal, which also allows for comments. 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URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Mon Nov 14 18:35:45 2022 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:35:45 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> Message-ID: <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> Hello all, I have gone through the system and cast my votes in the system. Some are yes, some are no. But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications provided any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any information at all. Is that because our system is broken and it isn?t being saved when applicants enter in the data? Or do applicants think it is unnecessary to fill out the application? For many of these applicants, there is nothing but the name of an organization supplied and that does not enable us to do our due diligence on them. Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our charter. Decisions to accept members must be unanimous. Thanks, Robin > On Nov 14, 2022, at 7:55 AM, David Morar wrote: > > Absolutely! I went through some of the applications and have decided to vote no on the following individual members because they do not look to be in fact representing non-commercial perspectives. I may be mistaken, and if that is the case, please let me know, but I think from last time, it was @Robin Gross who pointed out that we have to make sue they are actually representing such perspectives. In any case, the list of folks: > > Gabriel Karsan - not non-commercial oriented > Prince Andrew Livingstone Zutah - not non-commercial oriented > Betty Fausta - not non-commercial oriented > Arnold Alimo - not non-commercial oriented > Hafiz Faooq - not non-commercial oriented > Gaurav Vedi - not non-commercial oriented > > Separately, one person Jacklyn Appiah Sakyi does not have enough info to figure out if they are in fact non-commercial in their non-egigfa position. > > But since the vote does not have to be unanimous, I think it's safe to move forward with my no votes, unless others feel similarly. > > Thank you very much, > Have a great day, > David > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 5:25 PM Johan Helsingius > wrote: > David, > > I think you are right, going forward we should use terminal, > but considering the backlog and delay we have right now, > I think waiting for everyone to go through the somewhat > click-intensive process for every applicant in the queue > would add a lot of additional delay. > > I feel we had a chance to discuss the approval during our > meeting, we had concerns with a couple of applicants, and > Robin asked for some time to review the applications. 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That is a good question. We need to look into that. > Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our > charter. ?Decisions to accept members must be unanimous. Is that documented anywhere. The NCSG charter specifies membership criteria, but not the actual approval procedure. Julf From julf at Julf.com Tue Nov 15 16:51:29 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:51:29 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <42e95180-07e7-efdd-d59c-c592ecabcf1c@Julf.com> On 14/11/2022 17:35, Robin Gross wrote: > But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications provided > any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any information at > all. ?Is that because our system is broken and it isn?t being saved when > applicants enter in the data? I did a test application to find out - and the answer is yes, the system is broken and doesn't show the information. It is in the database, but not shown. Julf From robin at ipjustice.org Tue Nov 15 18:18:30 2022 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:18:30 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: <4833d983-26b7-e770-2f8f-fcd15d69637a@Julf.com> References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> <4833d983-26b7-e770-2f8f-fcd15d69637a@Julf.com> Message-ID: <9BFE3CD7-82DC-4F33-9FBD-3D5848D22EAB@ipjustice.org> Thanks, Julf. Yes, it is super important that all members of the NCSG-EC become familiar with the NCSG Charter and our SG?s Operating Procedures. The NCSG Charter explains that by default, EC decisions require no objections from any EC members. We can alter that decision-making threshold on a full consensus basis but we have done that for new memberships. See NCSG Charter: 2.4.2. NCSG?EC Decision making By default NCSG?EC decisions are made by full consensus of all NCSG?EC members. Full consensus means that no NCSG?EC members have objected to the proposed decision. Any exception to this default will be approved by the NCSG?EC on a full consensus basis. We also have established Operating Procedures , that deal with the actual process for how the applications should move along (but does not alter our voting threshold). See: https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# I?d like to ask each member of the EC to review the NCSG Charter and the New Member Approval Process Operating Procedures highlighted above so we are all on the same page regarding our duties and expectations. So NCSG has always operated with the requirement that new memberships require full consensus of all EC members. I?ve cc?d former NCSG Chairs, Bruna, Farzi, Rafik, and Avri to confirm this has been our longstanding practice regarding new membership approvals in addition to what is stated in our charter on EC decisions. Thank you. Best, Robin > On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:43 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote: > > Hi Robin, > > Thanks for going through the applications. > >> But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications provided any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any information at all. Is that because our system is broken and it isn?t being saved when applicants enter in the data? Or do applicants think it is unnecessary to fill out the application? For many of these applicants, there is nothing but the name of an organization supplied and that does not enable us to do our due diligence on them. > > That is a good question. We need to look into that. > >> Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our charter. 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A special thanks for the pointer to the Operating Procedures - something I have been asking about, but even former chairs were unable to point me to them. Julf On 15/11/2022 17:18, Robin Gross wrote: > Thanks, Julf. > > Yes, it is super important that all members of the NCSG-EC become > familiar with the NCSG Charter and our SG?s Operating Procedures. > > The NCSG Charter > ?explains > that by default, EC decisions require no objections from any EC members. > ?We can alter that decision-making threshold on a full consensus basis > but we have done that for new memberships. ?See NCSG Charter: > > *2.4.2. NCSG?EC Decision making* > > * By default NCSG?EC decisions are made by full consensus of all > NCSG?EC members. Full consensus means that no NCSG?EC members have > objected to the proposed decision. Any exception to this default > will be approved by the NCSG?EC on a full consensus basis. > > We also have established Operating Procedures > , that deal with the actual process for how the applications should move along (but does not alter our voting threshold). ?See: > https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# > > I?d like to ask each member of the EC to review the NCSG Charter and the > New Member Approval Process Operating Procedures highlighted above so we > are all on the same page regarding our duties and expectations. > > So NCSG has always operated with the requirement that new memberships > require full consensus of all EC members. ?I?ve cc?d former NCSG Chairs, > Bruna, Farzi, Rafik, and Avri to confirm this has been our longstanding > practice regarding new membership approvals in addition to what is > stated in our charter on EC decisions. ?Thank you. > > Best, > Robin > >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:43 AM, Johan Helsingius > > wrote: >> >> Hi Robin, >> >> Thanks for going through the applications. >> >>> But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications >>> provided any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any >>> information at all. ?Is that because our system is broken and it >>> isn?t being saved when applicants enter in the data? ?Or do >>> applicants think it is unnecessary to fill out the application? ?For >>> many of these applicants, there is nothing but the name of an >>> organization supplied and that does not enable us to do our due >>> diligence on them. >> >> That is a good question. We need to look into that. >> >>> Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our >>> charter. ?Decisions to accept members must be unanimous. >> >> Is that documented anywhere. The NCSG charter specifies membership >> criteria, but not the actual approval procedure. >> >> Julf >> >> > From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Tue Nov 15 18:31:43 2022 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:31:43 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: <22ada292-96a3-e5e8-10fb-3b91b67fa3af@Julf.com> References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> <4833d983-26b7-e770-2f8f-fcd15d69637a@Julf.com> <9BFE3CD7-82DC-4F33-9FBD-3D5848D22EAB@ipjustice.org> <22ada292-96a3-e5e8-10fb-3b91b67fa3af@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hello, all, I meant to jump in on this topic so thanks @Robin Gross for officially adding us to the thread (: Although Im not sure if Im one of the chairs that 'failed to point Julf to the Operating Procedures', what we did before was to also have formal discussions about the candidates when we saw that it was a case where one of the EC members was heading towards a 'no'. Bearing in mind our consensus rule, I always thought that such meetings were useful because it allowed for a proper discussion about missing points in membership applications and even information requests to prospective members. Best, B On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 5:26 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Thanks Robin, and yes, you are right about the Charter. > > A special thanks for the pointer to the Operating Procedures - something > I have been asking about, but even former chairs were unable to point > me to them. > > Julf > > > On 15/11/2022 17:18, Robin Gross wrote: > > Thanks, Julf. > > > > Yes, it is super important that all members of the NCSG-EC become > > familiar with the NCSG Charter and our SG?s Operating Procedures. > > > > The NCSG Charter > > explains > > that by default, EC decisions require no objections from any EC members. > > We can alter that decision-making threshold on a full consensus basis > > but we have done that for new memberships. See NCSG Charter: > > > > *2.4.2. NCSG?EC Decision making* > > > > * By default NCSG?EC decisions are made by full consensus of all > > NCSG?EC members. Full consensus means that no NCSG?EC members have > > objected to the proposed decision. Any exception to this default > > will be approved by the NCSG?EC on a full consensus basis. > > > > We also have established Operating Procedures > > < > https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383#>, > that deal with the actual process for how the applications should move > along (but does not alter our voting threshold). See: > > > https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# > < > https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# > > > > > > I?d like to ask each member of the EC to review the NCSG Charter and the > > New Member Approval Process Operating Procedures highlighted above so we > > are all on the same page regarding our duties and expectations. > > > > So NCSG has always operated with the requirement that new memberships > > require full consensus of all EC members. I?ve cc?d former NCSG Chairs, > > Bruna, Farzi, Rafik, and Avri to confirm this has been our longstanding > > practice regarding new membership approvals in addition to what is > > stated in our charter on EC decisions. Thank you. > > > > Best, > > Robin > > > >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:43 AM, Johan Helsingius >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Robin, > >> > >> Thanks for going through the applications. > >> > >>> But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications > >>> provided any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any > >>> information at all. Is that because our system is broken and it > >>> isn?t being saved when applicants enter in the data? Or do > >>> applicants think it is unnecessary to fill out the application? For > >>> many of these applicants, there is nothing but the name of an > >>> organization supplied and that does not enable us to do our due > >>> diligence on them. > >> > >> That is a good question. We need to look into that. > >> > >>> Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our > >>> charter. Decisions to accept members must be unanimous. > >> > >> Is that documented anywhere. The NCSG charter specifies membership > >> criteria, but not the actual approval procedure. > >> > >> Julf > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin f?r Sozialforschung (WZB) Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu * and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So im bringing them back (: On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 5:31 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, all, > > I meant to jump in on this topic so thanks @Robin Gross > for officially adding us to the thread (: > > Although Im not sure if Im one of the chairs that 'failed to point Julf to > the Operating Procedures', what we did before was to also have formal > discussions about the candidates when we saw that it was a case where one > of the EC members was heading towards a 'no'. Bearing in mind our consensus > rule, I always thought that such meetings were useful because it allowed > for a proper discussion about missing points in membership applications and > even information requests to prospective members. > > Best, > B > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 5:26 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Thanks Robin, and yes, you are right about the Charter. >> >> A special thanks for the pointer to the Operating Procedures - something >> I have been asking about, but even former chairs were unable to point >> me to them. >> >> Julf >> >> >> On 15/11/2022 17:18, Robin Gross wrote: >> > Thanks, Julf. >> > >> > Yes, it is super important that all members of the NCSG-EC become >> > familiar with the NCSG Charter and our SG?s Operating Procedures. >> > >> > The NCSG Charter >> > explains >> > that by default, EC decisions require no objections from any EC >> members. >> > We can alter that decision-making threshold on a full consensus basis >> > but we have done that for new memberships. See NCSG Charter: >> > >> > *2.4.2. NCSG?EC Decision making* >> > >> > * By default NCSG?EC decisions are made by full consensus of all >> > NCSG?EC members. Full consensus means that no NCSG?EC members have >> > objected to the proposed decision. Any exception to this default >> > will be approved by the NCSG?EC on a full consensus basis. >> > >> > We also have established Operating Procedures >> > < >> https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383#>, >> that deal with the actual process for how the applications should move >> along (but does not alter our voting threshold). See: >> > >> https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# >> < >> https://community.icann.org/m/view-rendered-page.action?abstractPageId=88573383# >> > >> > >> > I?d like to ask each member of the EC to review the NCSG Charter and >> the >> > New Member Approval Process Operating Procedures highlighted above so >> we >> > are all on the same page regarding our duties and expectations. >> > >> > So NCSG has always operated with the requirement that new memberships >> > require full consensus of all EC members. I?ve cc?d former NCSG >> Chairs, >> > Bruna, Farzi, Rafik, and Avri to confirm this has been our longstanding >> > practice regarding new membership approvals in addition to what is >> > stated in our charter on EC decisions. Thank you. >> > >> > Best, >> > Robin >> > >> >> On Nov 15, 2022, at 5:43 AM, Johan Helsingius > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Robin, >> >> >> >> Thanks for going through the applications. >> >> >> >>> But I?m concerned that none of the organizational applications >> >>> provided any kind of statement of interest, or domain name, or any >> >>> information at all. Is that because our system is broken and it >> >>> isn?t being saved when applicants enter in the data? Or do >> >>> applicants think it is unnecessary to fill out the application? For >> >>> many of these applicants, there is nothing but the name of an >> >>> organization supplied and that does not enable us to do our due >> >>> diligence on them. >> >> >> >> That is a good question. We need to look into that. >> >> >> >>> Remember that accepting new members requires no ?no? votes under our >> >>> charter. Decisions to accept members must be unanimous. >> >> >> >> Is that documented anywhere. The NCSG charter specifies membership >> >> criteria, but not the actual approval procedure. >> >> >> >> Julf >> >> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von > Humboldt Foundation > > Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin > f?r Sozialforschung (WZB) > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu * and > bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin f?r Sozialforschung (WZB) Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu * and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Nov 15 18:53:56 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:53:56 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Approval of new members In-Reply-To: References: <77f5a9f5-0e08-46f8-4d42-d18d616bd8df@Julf.com> <7b68f862-224c-4443-4731-c7fb8e8118b9@Julf.com> <106F4C0E-D625-4A25-A417-1F4200B5D039@ipjustice.org> <4833d983-26b7-e770-2f8f-fcd15d69637a@Julf.com> <9BFE3CD7-82DC-4F33-9FBD-3D5848D22EAB@ipjustice.org> <22ada292-96a3-e5e8-10fb-3b91b67fa3af@Julf.com> Message-ID: <186d31d5-aac5-3bbb-9a5c-3c1879b16e2b@Julf.com> On 15/11/2022 17:34, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: > Although Im not?sure if Im one of the chairs that 'failed to point > Julf to the Operating Procedures' Just want to clarify that no, you were not one of the ones - I have never asked you about the Operating Procedures. > what we did before was to also > have formal discussions about the candidates when we saw that it was > a case where one of the EC members was heading towards a 'no'. > Bearing in mind?our consensus rule, I always thought that such > meetings were useful because it allowed for a proper discussion > about missing points in membership applications and even information > requests to prospective members. Indeed, that sounds like the best way to do it in normal circumstances. Currently we have such a backlog of applications (due to the issues with the approval system software) that I was hoping for an expedited approach for at least those applications that no-one had any issues with. Currently we have the confusing situation of the partially broken approval software in parallel with discussions at actual EC meetings. Right now it seems the major issues/concerns come from us not being able to see the website or statements of interest even if the applicants have submitted them. Julf From julf at Julf.com Thu Nov 17 15:07:14 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:07:14 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: FW: Request for Input by 2 December - GNSO Candidates for Fellowship Program Mentor and Fellowship Selection Committee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI. Do we want to issue a general call for interest? Seems we already have Tomslin and Bruna who have expressed interest. Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: FW: Request for Input by 2 December - GNSO Candidates for Fellowship Program Mentor and Fellowship Selection Committee Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 11:53:06 +0000 From: Sebastien at registry.godaddy To: julf at Julf.com CC: gnso-secs at icann.org , GNSO-Chairs , Emily Barabas Dear Julf, During today?s November GNSO Council meeting, Tomslin Samme-Nlar expressed that he would be interested in the Fellowship Selection Committee role. It would be helpful to understand if other NCSG members are also interested in this role. Kindly, *Sebastien Ducos* GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager signature_2355207608 +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien at registry.godaddy *From: *Gnso-chairs on behalf of Sebastien--- via Gnso-chairs *Date: *Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 12:50 pm *To: *sdemetriou at verisign.com , Ashley Heineman , julf at Julf.com , benakin at gmail.com , plommer at gmail.com , lschulman at inta.org , philippe.fouquart at orange.com , MCole at perkinscoie.com *Cc: *Brenda.brewer at icann.org , gnso-secs at icann.org , GNSO-Chairs , andrea.glandon at icann.org *Subject: *[gnso-chairs] Request for Input by 2 December - GNSO Candidates for Fellowship Program Mentor and Fellowship Selection Committee Caution:This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad at . Dear SG/C Leaders, You may have seen in recent editions of the Community Leaders Digest (see attached) that the ICANN Fellowship Program is inviting the GNSO to nominate one individual to serve as aFellowship Program Mentor and another individual to serve as aFellowship Selection Committee member. The current Fellowship Program Mentor, Chris Disspain, is willing to remain in the role for the coming year. I am currently serving on the Fellowship Selection Committee and would be willing to stay in this role for the coming term. To the extent, however, that there are others interested in these roles, the GNSO will open an Expression of Interest process. I am writing to request that you*reach out to you members to find out if there is interest in applying for the GNSO nominated Fellowship Program Mentor and/or the Fellowship Selection Committee Member.* Please provide names of interested individuals and the role they seek by*Friday 2 December*. This will ensure that there is sufficient time to launch EOIs and complete selection processes should that be necessary. Kindly, *Sebastien Ducos* GoDaddy Registry | Senior Client Services Manager signature_2202366579 +33612284445 France & Australia sebastien at registry.godaddy -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Gnso-chairs mailing list Gnso-chairs at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-chairs _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. From julf at Julf.com Thu Nov 17 15:51:08 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications Message-ID: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> Dear EC, Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word and ASCII text form. Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, but for individual users that is not a show stopper. How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... Julf From andrea.glandon at icann.org Thu Nov 17 17:41:16 2022 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 15:41:16 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN76 Sessions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> Hello all! We are starting to reserve time slots for the ICANN76 meeting. I need to know the sessions you would like to try to have? Will there be any joint sessions? Normally there is an NCSG Membership, NCSG Policy, NCUC Membership and NPOC Membership. Do you want to do something similar and then invite speakers/guests? Thank you! Kind Regards, Andrea From: Andrea Glandon Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 16:31 To: "ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , "npoc-ec at icann.org" , "ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org" Cc: Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon Subject: ICANN76 Sessions Hello Executive Committees! I would like to start the conversation about the NCSG/NPOC/NCUC sessions for ICANN76. Are there other groups you would like to meet with? Specific topics that you would like to discuss? These are the questions and discussions that need to begin now. I am attaching the slide deck from the first production call. Thank you! Andrea Glandon Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: acglandon76 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Nov 17 17:57:25 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:57:25 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN76 Sessions In-Reply-To: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> References: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> Message-ID: <9f98b39c-9fb9-2f29-85e9-39d435815328@Julf.com> Hi Andrea, Pretty sure we want at least a NCSG membership meeting and a NCSG policy meeting. It would probably make sense to have an EC meeting too, but maybe not a public one. As to joint sessions, the obvious ones would be board (but they are probably rather busy), GAC and ALAC, but let me see if the PC and the councillors have a priority list... Julf On 17/11/2022 16:41, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC wrote: > Hello all! > > We are starting to reserve time slots for the ICANN76 meeting.? I need > to know the sessions you would like to try to have?? Will there be any > joint sessions?? Normally there is an NCSG Membership, NCSG Policy, NCUC > Membership and NPOC Membership.? Do you want to do something similar and > then invite speakers/guests? > > Thank you! > > Kind Regards, > > Andrea > > *From: *Andrea Glandon > *Date: *Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 16:31 > *To: *"ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , > "npoc-ec at icann.org" , "ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org" > > *Cc: *Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon > > *Subject: *ICANN76 Sessions > > Hello Executive Committees! > > I would like to start the conversation about the NCSG/NPOC/NCUC sessions > for ICANN76. Are there other groups you would like to meet with? > Specific topics that you would like to discuss?? These are the questions > and discussions that need to begin now. I am attaching the slide deck > from the first production call. > > Thank you! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:*? acglandon76 > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From andrea.glandon at icann.org Thu Nov 17 18:00:09 2022 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:00:09 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN76 Sessions In-Reply-To: <9f98b39c-9fb9-2f29-85e9-39d435815328@Julf.com> References: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> <9f98b39c-9fb9-2f29-85e9-39d435815328@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hello! I currently have a slot saved for the membership and policy meeting. There is a Board/NCSG meeting already on the schedule. If you would like to have joint meetings with ALAC and GAC, it may be easier to have them join for part of the membership meeting or see if they have time open for NCSG to go to them. There will also be sign-up rooms available. These rooms do not have services or support, but are a room for a small meeting. This would be a great place for the EC to meet. Kind Regards, Andrea ?On 11/17/22, 09:57, "NCSG-EC on behalf of Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC" wrote: Hi Andrea, Pretty sure we want at least a NCSG membership meeting and a NCSG policy meeting. It would probably make sense to have an EC meeting too, but maybe not a public one. As to joint sessions, the obvious ones would be board (but they are probably rather busy), GAC and ALAC, but let me see if the PC and the councillors have a priority list... Julf On 17/11/2022 16:41, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC wrote: > Hello all! > > We are starting to reserve time slots for the ICANN76 meeting. I need > to know the sessions you would like to try to have? Will there be any > joint sessions? Normally there is an NCSG Membership, NCSG Policy, NCUC > Membership and NPOC Membership. Do you want to do something similar and > then invite speakers/guests? > > Thank you! > > Kind Regards, > > Andrea > > *From: *Andrea Glandon > *Date: *Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 16:31 > *To: *"ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , > "npoc-ec at icann.org" , "ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org" > > *Cc: *Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon > > *Subject: *ICANN76 Sessions > > Hello Executive Committees! > > I would like to start the conversation about the NCSG/NPOC/NCUC sessions > for ICANN76. Are there other groups you would like to meet with? > Specific topics that you would like to discuss? These are the questions > and discussions that need to begin now. I am attaching the slide deck > from the first production call. > > Thank you! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:* acglandon76 > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!6C4OtqFI7QMYwUP4MlQWP_XnI-8UThZaq001vCN8iCJV_gdOAiduiHFjz3qwsvsw4HRsBvniHUGhTChxRP_tVdBAeU9T1g$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec__;!!PtGJab4!6C4OtqFI7QMYwUP4MlQWP_XnI-8UThZaq001vCN8iCJV_gdOAiduiHFjz3qwsvsw4HRsBvniHUGhTChxRP_tVdBAeU9T1g$ [lists[.]ncsg[.]is] From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Nov 17 18:07:40 2022 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 10:07:40 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NPOC-EC] ICANN76 Sessions In-Reply-To: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> References: <1B3AC941-E38E-4C48-86FA-1BE650C37304@icann.org> Message-ID: Hi Andrea, As Julf said, we still have a couple of outstanding ones especially the continued conversation on NomCom rebalancing with the Pilot Holistic Review teams, Avir and Cherly. I'm making a proposal for that consideration. Thanks Caleb On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 9:41 AM Andrea Glandon via NPOC-EC < npoc-ec at icann.org> wrote: > Hello all! > > > > We are starting to reserve time slots for the ICANN76 meeting. I need to > know the sessions you would like to try to have? Will there be any joint > sessions? Normally there is an NCSG Membership, NCSG Policy, NCUC > Membership and NPOC Membership. Do you want to do something similar and > then invite speakers/guests? > > > > Thank you! > > Kind Regards, > > Andrea > > > > > > *From: *Andrea Glandon > *Date: *Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 16:31 > *To: *"ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , "npoc-ec at icann.org" > , "ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org" > *Cc: *Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon < > andrea.glandon at icann.org> > *Subject: *ICANN76 Sessions > > > > Hello Executive Committees! > > > > I would like to start the conversation about the NCSG/NPOC/NCUC sessions > for ICANN76. Are there other groups you would like to meet with? Specific > topics that you would like to discuss? These are the questions and > discussions that need to begin now. I am attaching the slide deck from the > first production call. > > > > Thank you! > > *Andrea Glandon* > > Policy Operations Coordinator > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > *Skype ID:* acglandon76 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NPOC-EC mailing list > NPOC-EC at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/npoc-ec > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Interested SOs/ACs should select their respective Fellowship Program mentor and Selection Committee representative by *31 January 2023 *and notify fellowshipconsultation at icann.org. Individual self-nominations will not be considered. -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Thu Nov 17 20:54:25 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:54:25 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call for SOs/ACs to Nominate Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Indeed! Thanks Caleb! We do have two interested persons, Bruna and Farell, both for the Selection Committee. Should we issue a more general call for candidates? Julf On 17/11/2022 17:24, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC wrote: > ?Hi Julf,* > * > > We still have this decision?to make on this and submit on time before > the holidays. > > > *REMINDER:**?Call for SOs/ACs to Nominate Fellowship Program Mentors and > Selection Committee Members* > > Supporting Organizations (SOs) and Advisory Committees (ACs) are invited > to nominate volunteers to serve as mentors in its Fellowship Program and > to serve on the Fellowship Program Selection Committee. There will be a > total of seven mentors and seven Selection Committee members, and each > group is welcome to nominate one individual for each role.____ > > __ __ > > Interested SOs/ACs should select their respective Fellowship Program > mentor and Selection Committee representative by *31 January 2023 *and > notify fellowshipconsultation at icann.org > . Individual self-nominations > will not be considered. > > > -- > *Caleb Ogundele* > Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 > Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Thu Nov 17 21:04:03 2022 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:04:03 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call for SOs/ACs to Nominate Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, we should a general call at least for transparency and reserve the choice of decision to select those who are qualified as mentioned in your email. I definitely will root for Bruna and Farell. I gather there are two slots. (Selectors and Mentors) On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:54 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Indeed! Thanks Caleb! > > We do have two interested persons, Bruna and Farell, both for the > Selection Committee. Should we issue a more general call for > candidates? > > Julf > > On 17/11/2022 17:24, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi Julf,* > > * > > > > We still have this decision to make on this and submit on time before > > the holidays. > > > > > > *REMINDER:** Call for SOs/ACs to Nominate Fellowship Program Mentors and > > Selection Committee Members* > > > > Supporting Organizations (SOs) and Advisory Committees (ACs) are invited > > to nominate volunteers to serve as mentors in its Fellowship Program and > > to serve on the Fellowship Program Selection Committee. There will be a > > total of seven mentors and seven Selection Committee members, and each > > group is welcome to nominate one individual for each role.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Interested SOs/ACs should select their respective Fellowship Program > > mentor and Selection Committee representative by *31 January 2023 *and > > notify fellowshipconsultation at icann.org > > . Individual self-nominations > > will not be considered. > > > > > > -- > > *Caleb Ogundele* > > Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 > > Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Nov 22 17:52:26 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:52:26 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> Message-ID: No opinions? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC Reply-To: Johan Helsingius To: NCSG EC Dear EC, Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word and ASCII text form. Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, but for individual users that is not a show stopper. How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... Julf From davidcristianmorar at gmail.com Tue Nov 22 18:58:08 2022 From: davidcristianmorar at gmail.com (David Morar) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 11:58:08 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> Message-ID: I am torn on this. I think having the system is useful, but if it's crummy, maybe we're better off without it? I am the least technical person in our group, I think, so it's entirely up to you all. Thank you very much, Have a great week, David David Morar, PhD @morar davidmorar.com On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:52 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > No opinions? > > Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 > From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > Reply-To: Johan Helsingius > To: NCSG EC > > Dear EC, > > Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an > admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data > as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it > in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word > and ASCII text form. > > Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, > but for individual users that is not a show stopper. > > How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to > gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows > for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", > or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications > we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? > > As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software > developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. > Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes > we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the > software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... > > Julf > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Nov 22 21:20:21 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:20:21 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> Message-ID: <359b2c03-1291-b3ad-04ac-d93a278f8ec0@Julf.com> Thanks David! We have two kind of separate issues here - one is the longer term way forward, and the other is the immediate need to deal with the current embarrassing backlog. Julf On 22/11/2022 17:58, David Morar wrote: > I am torn on this. I think?having the system?is useful, but if it's > crummy, maybe we're better off without it? > I am the least technical person in our group, I think, so it's entirely > up to you all. > > Thank you very much, > Have a great week, > David > > David Morar, PhD > @morar > davidmorar.com > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:52 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > wrote: > > No opinions? > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 > From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > Reply-To: Johan Helsingius > To: NCSG EC > > > Dear EC, > > Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an > admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data > as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it > in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word > and ASCII text form. > > Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, > but for individual users that is not a show stopper. > > How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to > gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows > for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", > or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications > we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? > > As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software > developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. > Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes > we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the > software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... > > ? ? ? ? Julf > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > From julf at Julf.com Tue Nov 22 21:23:03 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:23:03 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG FC Message-ID: <5d6ffc2b-fd06-a907-c2d7-6df0823542db@Julf.com> Do we currently have a Financial Committee? Julf From robin at ipjustice.org Tue Nov 22 22:49:00 2022 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:49:00 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG FC In-Reply-To: <5d6ffc2b-fd06-a907-c2d7-6df0823542db@Julf.com> References: <5d6ffc2b-fd06-a907-c2d7-6df0823542db@Julf.com> Message-ID: <25261E58-D596-41CE-8917-372F8FCC4B1B@ipjustice.org> I think it has been quite awhile since we?ve had a staffed and operational Financial Committee. In part because we don?t really have money to manage and the constituencies manage their monies. But now that you?ve brought it up, we really should because there are lots of other duties (as outlined in our Charter) that NCSG Financial Committee should be doing. Time to re-activate this committee? Thanks, Robin > On Nov 22, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Do we currently have a Financial Committee? > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > From muyiwacaleb at gmail.com Wed Nov 23 07:05:21 2022 From: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:05:21 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: <359b2c03-1291-b3ad-04ac-d93a278f8ec0@Julf.com> References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> <359b2c03-1291-b3ad-04ac-d93a278f8ec0@Julf.com> Message-ID: I can't make an informed opinion now. However, i'd be happy to have an admin account to first look at what we have. On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 1:20 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Thanks David! We have two kind of separate issues here - one is the > longer term way forward, and the other is the immediate need to > deal with the current embarrassing backlog. > > Julf > > > On 22/11/2022 17:58, David Morar wrote: > > I am torn on this. I think having the system is useful, but if it's > > crummy, maybe we're better off without it? > > I am the least technical person in our group, I think, so it's entirely > > up to you all. > > > > Thank you very much, > > Have a great week, > > David > > > > David Morar, PhD > > @morar > > davidmorar.com > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:52 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > wrote: > > > > No opinions? > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications > > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 > > From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > > > > Reply-To: Johan Helsingius > > To: NCSG EC > > > > > Dear EC, > > > > Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an > > admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data > > as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it > > in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word > > and ASCII text form. > > > > Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, > > but for individual users that is not a show stopper. > > > > How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to > > gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows > > for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", > > or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications > > we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? > > > > As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software > > developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. > > Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes > > we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the > > software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... > > > > Julf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- *Caleb Ogundele* Mobile: +1-204-558-6904 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 09:03:38 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:03:38 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG FC In-Reply-To: <25261E58-D596-41CE-8917-372F8FCC4B1B@ipjustice.org> References: <5d6ffc2b-fd06-a907-c2d7-6df0823542db@Julf.com> <25261E58-D596-41CE-8917-372F8FCC4B1B@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <5b0ee38a-0e85-b53d-feb6-439c71932d1d@Julf.com> Hi Robin, > I think it has been quite awhile since we?ve had a staffed and operational Financial Committee. Indeed. There doesn't seem to have been anything on the FC mailing list since 2019. > In part because we don?t really have money to manage and the constituencies manage their monies. True. > But now that you?ve brought it up, we really should because there are lots of other duties (as outlined in our Charter) that NCSG Financial Committee should be doing. Time to re-activate this committee? I agree. It might be something to visit in the next Charter Review, but for now we should at least satisfy the Charter requirements. Julf From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 10:50:46 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:50:46 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> <359b2c03-1291-b3ad-04ac-d93a278f8ec0@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Caleb, > I can't make an informed opinion now. I assume this is about the longer term future plans about the system - fair enough, I understand wanting to check out the current system. > However, i'd be happy to have an admin account to first look at what we > have. I think we do need to decide, as EC, who should have admin accounts. For now Tapani has an account purely because of legacy. It was never removed, even if it probably should have. Maybe we should appoint a person to be responsible for the database (doesn't need to be an EC member)? In any case, I think a basic requirement is to anyone playing around with admin access to start by doing a backup and using a sandbox for any experimentation. I would also like to look at our current maintenance contract, perhaps a job for the FC? Julf From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 12:50:51 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:50:51 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5ab4bab7-23b2-15e4-7dae-b62651b13a03@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:41:52 +1100 From: Razoana Moslam To: Johan Helsingius Hi Julf, I am interested in the fellowship mentor position. On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 3:19 AM Johan Helsingius > wrote: The GNSO will appoint one Fellowship Program Mentor and one Fellowship Selection Committee Member. The current Fellowship Program Mentor, Chris Disspain, is willing to remain in the role for the coming year, as is the current Fellowship Selection Committee member, Sebastien Ducos, but the Council leadership is asking us if we have interested candidates. As the Council leadership wants our answer by Friday 2 December, I am asking anyone interested to express their interest ASAP. ? ? ? ? Julf -- Best Regards, Razoana Moslam From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 12:51:54 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:51:54 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members In-Reply-To: <2117785837.1135079.1669188156532@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2117785837.1135079.1669188156532@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ef5d952-1234-4f6b-e37c-d5c1b033131a@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:22:36 +0000 From: Hago Dafalla <00000145f2708543-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Reply-To: Hago Dafalla To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Dear Sir Thank you very much for your message. Regarding the position , I am interested in the Selection committee position. Thanks Dr. Hago Dafalla On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:23 PM Raymond Mamattah > wrote: Wish Chris and Sebastian well in their next term. Regards, Raymond Mamattah Accra, Ghana On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 4:19 PM Johan Helsingius > wrote: The GNSO will appoint one Fellowship Program Mentor and one Fellowship Selection Committee Member. The current Fellowship Program Mentor, Chris Disspain, is willing to remain in the role for the coming year, as is the current Fellowship Selection Committee member, Sebastien Ducos, but the Council leadership is asking us if we have interested candidates. As the Council leadership wants our answer by Friday 2 December, I am asking anyone interested to express their interest ASAP. ? ? ? ? Julf -- */Bruna Martins dos Santos /* German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin f?r Sozialforschung (WZB) Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Co-Coordinator?| Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins ?// Skype: bruna.martinsantos _bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu _?and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 12:52:25 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:52:25 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6975816d-e156-e00f-2c41-e87fb15c914b@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Call for Nominations Fellowship Program Mentors and Selection Committee Members Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:47:15 +0600 From: Shah Zahidur Rahman Reply-To: Shah Zahidur Rahman To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU I am interested in the? Fellowship program mentor position. Regard's Shah On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 10:19 PM Johan Helsingius > wrote: The GNSO will appoint one Fellowship Program Mentor and one Fellowship Selection Committee Member. The current Fellowship Program Mentor, Chris Disspain, is willing to remain in the role for the coming year, as is the current Fellowship Selection Committee member, Sebastien Ducos, but the Council leadership is asking us if we have interested candidates. As the Council leadership wants our answer by Friday 2 December, I am asking anyone interested to express their interest ASAP. ? ? ? ? Julf From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 16:34:33 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:34:33 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: References: <51685dde-2e52-27fd-50fa-b6f70a6b2b52@Julf.com> Message-ID: Dear EC, Can you please either enter your responses in terminal/CiviCRM or just send me a list of applicants you don't want to approve, along with an explanation for why? Robin, could I ask you to revisit your responses for those membership applications that have actually provided a domain or explanation of interest (that isn't shown in terminal)? Julf > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100 > From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > Reply-To: Johan Helsingius > To: NCSG EC > > Dear EC, > > Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an > admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data > as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it > in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word > and ASCII text form. > > Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information, > but for individual users that is not a show stopper. > > How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to > gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows > for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide ", > or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications > we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier? > > As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software > developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner. > Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes > we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the > software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes... > > ????Julf > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From julf at Julf.com Wed Nov 23 17:55:30 2022 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:55:30 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Financial Committee Message-ID: <4f3c5ac9-686e-69ff-e0a6-c51e23c06352@Julf.com> Gentlemen, I hereby invite you to nominate one representative each to the NCSG Financial Committee for your constituencies. Kind regards, Julf From plommer at gmail.com Thu Nov 24 23:07:28 2022 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 23:07:28 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG Financial Committee In-Reply-To: <4f3c5ac9-686e-69ff-e0a6-c51e23c06352@Julf.com> References: <4f3c5ac9-686e-69ff-e0a6-c51e23c06352@Julf.com> Message-ID: Cheers Julf, We'll get this on our next meeting agenda. -Raoul On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, 17:55 Johan Helsingius, wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I hereby invite you to nominate one representative each to the NCSG > Financial Committee for your constituencies. > > Kind regards, > > Julf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrea.glandon at icann.org Wed Nov 30 19:44:55 2022 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 17:44:55 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN76 Design/Translation/Print Deadlines Message-ID: <8FE9350A-0A1B-418A-AEE2-3F8B57AE9AE3@icann.org> Hello NCSG EC, We now have the dates for ICANN76 design/translation/print deadlines. Design deadline: Wednesday, 21 December 2022 Translation deadline: Friday, 13 January 2023 Print deadline: Friday, 27 January 2023 21 December 2022: DESIGN DEADLINE: If you require design assistance for your publication, you need to provide all the text, images, layout, and publication type/size requirements (i.e. newsletter vs. 1-pager vs. trifold, etc.). You will receive a maximum of 2 iterations of the publication. Please provide everything by 21 December 2022. Due to budget constraints, please keep in mind that all materials, new or updated, need to be evergreen. 13 January 2023: TRANSLATION DEADLINE: If your publication requires translation, please provide the final material(s) by 13 January. This ensures that there is enough time to translate the publication by the below print deadline. If your materials require design assistance (outlined above), please note that the final materials will have to be complete, including the edit/approval process, by this deadline to be translated. 27 January 2023: PRINT DEADLINE ONLY. If you only need your publication printed, meaning your publication is ready to send directly to the printer and needs no translation or design/layout modifications, please provide the file to us along with the quantity you want printed and dimensions of the publication by 27 January 2023. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! Andrea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrea.glandon at icann.org Wed Nov 30 22:48:24 2022 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 20:48:24 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] FW: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Please Review: ICANN76 Plenary Session Proposals In-Reply-To: <4036AD21-B4FD-484A-96E0-44DC5C16AD87@icann.org> References: <4036AD21-B4FD-484A-96E0-44DC5C16AD87@icann.org> Message-ID: Hello Executive Committees, I wanted to put this on your radars. Below you will find the link to the plenary proposals for ICANN76. Any feedback would be appreciated by the next planning meeting, 8 December. Thanks! Kind Regards, Andrea From: SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning on behalf of Tanzanica King via SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning Reply-To: Tanzanica King Date: Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:05 To: SOAC Leaders ICANN Meeting Planning Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Please Review: ICANN76 Plenary Session Proposals Dear Community Leaders: Thank you to those of you who submitted topic proposals for ICANN76. We received a total of three ICANN76 Plenary Topic Proposals for consideration. The topics are as follows: 1. Unfinished Business and the Role of the ODP (ALAC) 1. The Interplay Between ICANN Bylaws and National Legislation (GAC) 1. Looking Towards WSIS+20: How Can We Improve the Multistakeholder Model for the Future? (GAC) Please read the detailed proposals at https://icann.wufoo.com/reports/plenary-session-topic-proposals-76. We encourage you to socialize the proposals with your groups and solicit feedback prior to the next planning call on 8 December. 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