[NCSG-EC] Side-meetings at ICANN 74

[Bruna Martins dos Santos]

Hello, all,

I have just sent Manal an email but am unsure of which set of the CSG do we
wanna reach out to. Are we interested on a conversation with CPH DNS Abuse
WGs or with the broader CSG leadership ?

Best,
B

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes Bruna, these dialogues are going to be very useful even if it's just
> reminding GAC of our existence. A few months ago during a meeting with the
> Board, Manal also expressed interest to have an informational meeting. We
> tell them about NCSG and our plans, ask them about their letter to the
> Board about closed generics, give them our opinion and generally have a
> chat. We have done these meetings before in 2017 and 2018 and GAC members
> found it useful. It even sparked some interesting conversation. Let's
> rekindle that spark.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 8:40 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heya, Julf, thanks a lot for commenting on that. Im looking at these
>> meetings as an opportunity to establish a conversation between us and the
>> GAC, not sure how our members feel about that but my main goal is to reset
>> the dialogue.
>>
>> So id say we maybe need to internally set up agenda items really quick
>> before i go on and schedule the conversation. And I believe closed generics
>> is the main topic, right ?
>>
>> Best,
>> B
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 2:35 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Bruna,
>>>
>>> As a former GAC liaison, I think it is a good idea, and we should
>>> definitely try. One challenge is that GAC doesn't really do "small"
>>> (or "informal") apart from clearly defined and designated sub-teams
>>> or representatives (such as "leadership" or "working group
>>> representatives"). With enough lead time, they might be able to do
>>> something like "a few members working on topic X", but in that case
>>> they might not represent the GAC overall view.
>>>
>>> We also have to remember that our best hope from small meetings with
>>> them is to better understand their concerns, arguments and positions.
>>> There is not much chance to actually influence them . that has to
>>> happen through the GNSO council that needs to get better at pushing
>>> back at GAC and the board.
>>>
>>>         Julf
>>>
>>> On 17-05-2022 14:21, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > Hope you are well!
>>> >
>>> > I just wanted to let you know that im going to reach out to the CSG
>>> and
>>> > the GAC for possible small meetings onsite during ICANN 74.
>>> >
>>> > We have been discussing this possibility/need for a while now and I
>>> > think we should take some advantage from the onsite interactions in
>>> The
>>> > Hague! Please let me know if you have any suggestions of topics for
>>> > discussion with both groups.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > --
>>> > */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> > /*
>>> >
>>> > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>> > von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>
>> Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum
>> Berlin für Sozialforschung (WZB) <https://wzb.eu/en>
>>
>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu <bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu>* and
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>
>

-- 

*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>

Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin
für Sozialforschung (WZB) <https://wzb.eu/en>

Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

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bruna.martinsantos
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