[NCSG-EC] Vaibhav

Robin Gross robin at ipjustice.org
Tue Jun 2 20:52:43 EEST 2020


I didn’t interpret Milton’s message as being hurtful but more of what we face every election - people imaging ways of using the existing ballot and rules to achieve various results.  It isn’t the first time we’ve had abstain / NOTA conversations and probably won’t be the last.

Best,
Robin

> On Jun 2, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> I just responded to James' comment, in hopes that this would douse the flames.  I also resent the thread of reminders about the election process....I trust it made it to the list.
> 
> I agree that whoever this Agarwal guy is, an offlist note is required.  I would really appreciate it if you did it, because frankly it looks like I am retaliating and might serve to escalate matters.
> 
> I also think Milton is out of line.  I am well aware of how much he would like me not to run, but to suggest to the list that they send me a message about how unwelcome I am, by voting abstain....well, besides being hurtful, I think it is a kind of electioneering that ought to be discouraged.  Encourage people to vote for your candidate of choice, sure.
> 
> I also think that encouraging me to step down so the EC can appoint the person they really want raises all kinds of questions about how fair the election process is.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> SP
> On 2020-06-02 12:57 p.m., Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> What he said to Milton is disrespectful, and contains specific accusations as well as threats. I think he needs to be reminded off-list of the expected standards of behavior at ICANN and encouraged to withdraw what he said and eventually apologize. If he keeps lashing on, then to me thats a case of temporary suspension from the mailing list with further review on our side. 
>> 
>> Milton is harsh, and I also think he should exercise restraint in such circumstances, and it would be fair game to remind him. His point could be made without certain words, irrespective of their being "true" or not. But Vaibhav's surely went way over the line as far as standards of behavior are concerned, much more than Milton ever did. 
>> 
>> I know you don't like to play the cop Steph, but I do think it's required, unfortunately. If you don't feel like it, I can volunteer, or someone else can go ahead too.
>> 
>> But let's quickly discuss first; let me know what you all think.
>> 
>> Have a nice day, 
>> 
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