[NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council

Fri Jan 11 06:57:37 EET 2019

Hey NCSG EC,

I would be grateful if I was taken off this mailing list, as I am not currently serving NCSG on the EC,

Best wishes,

Monika

Kind regards,

Dr. Monika Zalnieriute

Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School |

The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I

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Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I

Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I

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From: NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
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To: Stephanie Perrin
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Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council

Thank you, Stephanie.  I’m in complete agreement and expect we will not have to go through this line of argumentation again, as we should be well aware of how to exercise our duties as NCSG officers by now.

Best,
Robin

On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

As Chair, I believe it is my job to do this.  I have done so.  I am completing the other paperwork.

Let me be crystal, crystal clear here.  I am not going to participate in this partisan activity.  Martin is an excellent councilor.  He is an NCSG councilor, not an NPOC councilor.  The fact that he happens to have chosen NPOC as a constituency is irrelevant to his duties as a GNSO councilor.  His replacement, who is selected by this NCSG committee on merit alone, has no obligations to constituencies either.

Regarding replacing Martin in his role on the RPMs working group....this replacement is for the Council position.  Any other activities in which Martin participates, are irrelevant.  Think about it....if Amr is not a member of the RPMS working group, he can hardly just sail in and be Chair or Vice Chair of one of the subgroups, as Martin is.  Martin needs to find someone on the committees on which he participates, to represent him as required on those activities.  Preferably that will be another NCSG person, but it is absolutely not the role of the NCSG-EC to interfere in this.

There is a lot of work on the table to do, notably the ABRs at this precise moment.  Please be aware that every time we are at risk of deflecting the discussion of our core work, into partisan politics and bickering about travel slots, I am going to remind people to put their shoulders to the plough and stop wasting time.  I am afraid I have spent too many years as an executive accountable for the work my group is responsible to deliver, to waste my time on this.  My apologies to all who are offended.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2019-01-10 14:26, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-EC wrote:
Dear All,
We have taken our decision about Amr as a replacement for Martin's job. I think that as happened with Farrell last time, Amr should be doing Martin's tasks and one of them is attending to NPOC's Constituency Day and, of course, his job on RPM meetings. I think those details should be talked whether Martin and Amr, and we expect that Amr also will be participating in other topics, as he usually does, beyond that EPDP what is not the only concern for GNSO Council.

So, the next stage is to announce that we have a decision. Don't you think?

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El jueves, 10 de enero de 2019 1:33:40 p. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribió:

All,

I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe.  Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process.  So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it.  But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies.  We’ve never done it before, and we aren’t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources.  Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.

Thanks,
Robin

On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for.

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:

Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.

Stephanie

On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
I have two conditions on accepting this:

1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.

-Raoul

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.

Stephanie

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