From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan  3 18:47:48 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 16:47:48 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] need to decide on replacement for Martin in Kobe
Message-ID: <2d1357c2-36f4-2947-a50d-780bcf94a154@mail.utoronto.ca>

Hi folks, you will see that I just sent out a message to the list that Martin cannot attend the council meetings in Kobe and we need to find a replacement asap.  Given the amount of work on the agenda, I am trying to gently but actively discourage anyone who might want to travel to Japan but has never paid any attention to Council.  I gave a hard deadline of Tuesday noon UTC, and I am hoping we can make a decision by Tuesday midnight UTC, so that we can engage CT and get the travel planning started.

cheers and Happy New Year everyone!

Stephanie
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan  3 19:08:50 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:08:50 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <29B04DF9-8402-4A55-8326-D37D3818C46B@icannpolicy.ninja>
References: <29B04DF9-8402-4A55-8326-D37D3818C46B@icannpolicy.ninja>
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We have our first applicant.   Amr is a very strong candidate in my opinion.

Stephanie


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:53:56 +0000
From:   Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
Reply-To:       Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


[OFF-LIST]

Hi Stephanie,

I?d very much like to replace Martin in Kobe, if the EC finds me to be an acceptable candidate. As you know, I've already had several years of experience representing the NCSG on the GNSO Council, and have helped to actually draft a number of the GNSO?s Operating Procedures that guide its work either while serving on the SCI or the GNSO Policy and Implementation WG. I?ve also always closely followed the Council mailing list, and regularly listen in on their monthly calls. I?ve also always made a point of attending NCSG monthly policy calls to do what I can to help prepare our Councilors for the monthly Council calls. So I?m generally already up-to-speed on what?s on the general Council agenda.

As you also know, I?m very engaged with the EPDP at the time being. Although the EPDP will be done with its first final report by the time ICANN 64 in Kobe happens, the EPDP Team will be engaged in discussion of an access model at that time. It?d also be very helpful if I can be there in person to participate.

If the the EC does select me as Martin?s replacement, I?d be happy to coordinate with him on any issues he feels strongly about, so that I might better represent him in Kobe.

Thanks.

Amr

On Jan 3, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>> wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64.  One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG

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From robin at ipjustice.org  Fri Jan  4 00:27:59 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:27:59 -0800
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <8387134e-52ba-4611-29bf-fbb8365919ea@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <29B04DF9-8402-4A55-8326-D37D3818C46B@icannpolicy.ninja>
 <8387134e-52ba-4611-29bf-fbb8365919ea@mail.utoronto.ca>
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Agreed, Stephanie.  Thanks for alerting us to this appointment.  I definitely think Amr is an ideal candidate for this slot given all of his experience and work on GNSO policy issues.

Thanks,
Robin

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> We have our first applicant.   Amr is a very strong candidate in my opinion.
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:	Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
> Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:53:56 +0000
> From:	Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> <mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
> Reply-To:	Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> <mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
> To:	Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> CC:	Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> 
> [OFF-LIST]
> 
> Hi Stephanie,
> 
> I?d very much like to replace Martin in Kobe, if the EC finds me to be an acceptable candidate. As you know, I've already had several years of experience representing the NCSG on the GNSO Council, and have helped to actually draft a number of the GNSO?s Operating Procedures that guide its work either while serving on the SCI or the GNSO Policy and Implementation WG. I?ve also always closely followed the Council mailing list, and regularly listen in on their monthly calls. I?ve also always made a point of attending NCSG monthly policy calls to do what I can to help prepare our Councilors for the monthly Council calls. So I?m generally already up-to-speed on what?s on the general Council agenda.
> 
> As you also know, I?m very engaged with the EPDP at the time being. Although the EPDP will be done with its first final report by the time ICANN 64 in Kobe happens, the EPDP Team will be engaged in discussion of an access model at that time. It?d also be very helpful if I can be there in person to participate.
> 
> If the the EC does select me as Martin?s replacement, I?d be happy to coordinate with him on any issues he feels strongly about, so that I might better represent him in Kobe.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Amr 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>> wrote:
>> 
>> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.
>> 
>> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64 <https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64>.  One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar <https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>
>> 
>> Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> 
>> Chair, NCSG
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec

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From plommer at gmail.com  Sat Jan  5 14:05:28 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:05:28 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <256CDBDA-39D3-42E2-B72F-80B09623C2CB@ipjustice.org>
References: <29B04DF9-8402-4A55-8326-D37D3818C46B@icannpolicy.ninja>
 <8387134e-52ba-4611-29bf-fbb8365919ea@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <256CDBDA-39D3-42E2-B72F-80B09623C2CB@ipjustice.org>
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Have we received any other applications? If not, the decision seems rather
straight forward. When is the deadline for the applications?

-Raoul

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 00:28, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
wrote:

> Agreed, Stephanie.  Thanks for alerting us to this appointment.  I
> definitely think Amr is an ideal candidate for this slot given all of his
> experience and work on GNSO policy issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> On Jan 3, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> We have our first applicant.   Amr is a very strong candidate in my
> opinion.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:53:56 +0000
> From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
> Reply-To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
> <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
> To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> CC: Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>
> [OFF-LIST]
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> I?d very much like to replace Martin in Kobe, if the EC finds me to be an
> acceptable candidate. As you know, I've already had several years of
> experience representing the NCSG on the GNSO Council, and have helped to
> actually draft a number of the GNSO?s Operating Procedures that guide its
> work either while serving on the SCI or the GNSO Policy and Implementation
> WG. I?ve also always closely followed the Council mailing list, and
> regularly listen in on their monthly calls. I?ve also always made a point
> of attending NCSG monthly policy calls to do what I can to help prepare our
> Councilors for the monthly Council calls. So I?m generally already
> up-to-speed on what?s on the general Council agenda.
>
> As you also know, I?m very engaged with the EPDP at the time being.
> Although the EPDP will be done with its first final report by the time
> ICANN 64 in Kobe happens, the EPDP Team will be engaged in discussion of an
> access model at that time. It?d also be very helpful if I can be there in
> person to participate.
>
> If the the EC does select me as Martin?s replacement, I?d be happy to
> coordinate with him on any issues he feels strongly about, so that I might
> better represent him in Kobe.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jan 3, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> wrote:
>
> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and
> successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be
> doing together in 2019.
>
> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is
> in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64.  One of our GNSO
> Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of
> other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use
> of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This
> decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly.
> If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please
> do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief
> statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current
> working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot
> of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work
> of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at
> the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO
> Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow
> the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to
> the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You
> will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and
> helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
>
>
> Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.
>
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> Chair, NCSG
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Sat Jan  5 21:06:38 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 19:06:38 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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Another application.
Stephanie
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:40:04 +0100
From:   Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org><mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


Dear Stephanie,

I wish you and the EC a happy new year.

I welcome this e-mail as a great opportunity for an NCSG member to learn more and contribute to the GNSO council's mission.

Although I have recently applied, been endorsed by our NCSG PC Chair Rafik Dammak, and been selected to be an alternate GNSO councillor in Barcelona, I think it is a good idea for me to apply again even if one might think that a random new person should be given priority. Actually, given that I had started warming up with GNSO Council face-to-face meetings, I believe that my participation in the KOBE meeting as a councillor would be a perfect chance to ensure continuity of my learning process and my preparedness to either serve as a councillor or be knowledgeable enough to coach people and contribute efficiently. Therefore, I am confident that I represent a better candidate than any random member. However, I also do believe that giving chance to a different member is good for diversity and awareness within our community.

Below is my statement. Please rest assured that both my commitment and willingness to serve remain.



Thanks to the diversity and the multi-stakeholder characteristic that the Internet governance issue requires, attending an ICANN meeting is always a good opportunity to meet with great people, mentors, leaders and governments representatives and to discuss key topics relevant for the development of the Internet.

ICANN 64 could be my first Community Meeting as an alternate councillor. As an NCUC representative to the NCSG Policy Committee, it would be good to physically attend and monitor ongoing policy-related discussions within the GNSO and other stakeholders such as the ALAC. Within the NCSG, I usually participate in our monthly policy calls and use to listen to the GNSO council audio streamings to keep posted about hot topics and new trends. Proofs of that can be found in the meetings? attendance usually sent by our ICANN support Maryam Bakoshi.

Recently in ICANN63, I represented the NCSG as a councillor to my first ever AG meeting and took this opportunity to connect, learn, and contribute to various Working Groups and Workshops including serving at the ICANN fellowship booth to conduct Policy-related issues awareness for participants. In ICANN61, I participated in the Policy Writing Course and even drafted a template for writing our public comments in the future. I have contributed to many Public Comments and will be glad to share views and experiences with participants during the event, especially regarding the recently published EPDP report which I am particularly interested in. I also have a good understanding of the GNSO Council and how it works, that is why I would like to envision the possibility of replacing the councillor who cannot attend.

During my stay in KOBE, I will be available to attend every NCSG meeting and any other activity that will have a positive impact on our community. I will help newcomers in understanding how policy issues work within the NCSG and the ICANN as a whole. No doubt that I will stay engaged before and after. I will closely work with the onsite leadership team and provide them with any necessary support.

In general, I will stay engaged within our working groups, as I always do within the Policy Committee, and as I did during the Buddy Programme where I translated all overviews in French to allow French speakers to have a better understanding.

I would appreciate if you consider my participation to the next ICANN meeting as an alternate for the Council member.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee
linkedin.com/in/farellf<http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>






On 3 Jan 2019, at 17:43, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>> wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64.  One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Sat Jan  5 21:07:51 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 19:07:51 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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References: <29B04DF9-8402-4A55-8326-D37D3818C46B@icannpolicy.ninja>
 <8387134e-52ba-4611-29bf-fbb8365919ea@mail.utoronto.ca>
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Yes, other applications are coming in.  One came in without a proper statement, I bounced it back for more info, but we have several excellent candidates now.

cheers SP

On 2019-01-05 07:05, Raoul Plommer wrote:
Have we received any other applications? If not, the decision seems rather straight forward. When is the deadline for the applications?

-Raoul

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 00:28, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
Agreed, Stephanie.  Thanks for alerting us to this appointment.  I definitely think Amr is an ideal candidate for this slot given all of his experience and work on GNSO policy issues.

Thanks,
Robin

On Jan 3, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:


We have our first applicant.   Amr is a very strong candidate in my opinion.

Stephanie


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:53:56 +0000
From:   Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
Reply-To:       Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja><mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


[OFF-LIST]

Hi Stephanie,

I?d very much like to replace Martin in Kobe, if the EC finds me to be an acceptable candidate. As you know, I've already had several years of experience representing the NCSG on the GNSO Council, and have helped to actually draft a number of the GNSO?s Operating Procedures that guide its work either while serving on the SCI or the GNSO Policy and Implementation WG. I?ve also always closely followed the Council mailing list, and regularly listen in on their monthly calls. I?ve also always made a point of attending NCSG monthly policy calls to do what I can to help prepare our Councilors for the monthly Council calls. So I?m generally already up-to-speed on what?s on the general Council agenda.

As you also know, I?m very engaged with the EPDP at the time being. Although the EPDP will be done with its first final report by the time ICANN 64 in Kobe happens, the EPDP Team will be engaged in discussion of an access model at that time. It?d also be very helpful if I can be there in person to participate.

If the the EC does select me as Martin?s replacement, I?d be happy to coordinate with him on any issues he feels strongly about, so that I might better represent him in Kobe.

Thanks.

Amr

On Jan 3, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>> wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64.  One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG

_______________________________________________
NCSG-EC mailing list
NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Sat Jan  5 21:10:38 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 19:10:38 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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References: <20190105051704.GA16579@jay.tarvainen.info>
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While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the EC wishes me to.

Stephanie


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
From:   Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info><mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


Hi Stephanie,

Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
handle this, I think.

Regards,


--
Tapani Tarvainen

On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>) wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64. One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG
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From plommer at gmail.com  Sun Jan  6 00:09:31 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 00:09:31 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <eed05b7c-0907-5d55-e1b1-ec942ae57dba@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <20190105051704.GA16579@jay.tarvainen.info>
 <eed05b7c-0907-5d55-e1b1-ec942ae57dba@mail.utoronto.ca>
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I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because
NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin
replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani
certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and
he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him
there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well
as keeping him activated overall.

There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and
I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for
example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment,
apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With
Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd
only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have
coming over?

-Raoul

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani
> was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am
> therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the
> EC wishes me to.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
> From: Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> CC: Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
> apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
> council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
> handle this, I think.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA) wrote:
>
>
> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and
> successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be
> doing together in 2019.
>
> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is
> in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64. One of our GNSO
> Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of
> other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use
> of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This
> decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly.
> If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please
> do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief
> statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current
> working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot
> of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work
> of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at
> the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO
> Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow
> the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to
> the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will
> find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and
> helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
>
>
> Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.
>
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> Chair, NCSG
>
> _______________________________________________
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Sun Jan  6 00:39:40 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 22:39:40 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <CADirp9Tz6=wWyJF2WSEKo=maYFZze=bM_fvbEiiAV3aAGHFDmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20190105051704.GA16579@jay.tarvainen.info>
 <eed05b7c-0907-5d55-e1b1-ec942ae57dba@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CADirp9Tz6=wWyJF2WSEKo=maYFZze=bM_fvbEiiAV3aAGHFDmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e9cfad82-7b8a-c663-cb6c-228bf962972a@mail.utoronto.ca>

I don't base my judgements on constituencies, I base it on who is actively contributing to the work.  In this case, we are talking about the work of Council.  Amr has been doing the lion's share of the work on the epdp, and GNSO Council will be expected to consider the EPDP output by the time of the meeting.  I would humbly suggest that this is an relevant factor to consider.  Council seats are not based on constituency.  Let me also remind you of the fact that we have many unaffiliated members of NCSG.

Tapani is an excellent candidate, and so is Farell.  Other new members have not contributed as yet so while I don't want to discourage them, as I said in the ad....this is not for novices.  It might be quite a council meeting.

cheers Stephanie


On 2019-01-05 17:09, Raoul Plommer wrote:
I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well as keeping him activated overall.

There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment, apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have coming over?

-Raoul

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the EC wishes me to.

Stephanie


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
From:   Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info><mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


Hi Stephanie,

Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
handle this, I think.

Regards,


--
Tapani Tarvainen

On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>) wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64. One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Sun Jan  6 00:47:54 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:47:54 -0800
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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References: <20190105051704.GA16579@jay.tarvainen.info>
 <eed05b7c-0907-5d55-e1b1-ec942ae57dba@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CADirp9Tz6=wWyJF2WSEKo=maYFZze=bM_fvbEiiAV3aAGHFDmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18480C90-F955-46CD-9BEB-87E2D8159BBA@ipjustice.org>

As this is travel slot and replacement specifically for NCSG GNSO policy work, I think it must be used for that purpose.  That means it should go to someone who is most advancing NCSG?s policy work, particularly the GNSO Council work.  Given that important understanding, I think Amr and Farell are the two strongest candidates that we?ve seen so far.  Amr is knee-deep in GNSO policy, particularly the EPDP and is just coming off time as a GNSO policy staff member, so Amr really knows what is happening in that space and is best able to advocate for NCSG?s interests there.  Farrell is also an active member of the NCSG policy committee, is keeping on top of NCSG policy work, and has made significant contributions on that front in recent months, so he?d be my second choice for this GNSO policy work slot.

Thanks,
Robin

> On Jan 5, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well as keeping him activated overall.
> 
> There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment, apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have coming over?
> 
> -Raoul
> 
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
> While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the EC wishes me to.
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:	Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
> Date:	Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
> From:	Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> To:	Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
> CC:	Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> 
> Hi Stephanie,
> 
> Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
> apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
> council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
> handle this, I think.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Tapani Tarvainen
> 
> On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>) wrote:
>> 
>> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.
>> 
>> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64 <https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64>. One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar <https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.
>> 
>> 
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> 
>> Chair, NCSG
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From plommer at gmail.com  Sun Jan  6 01:08:30 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 01:08:30 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <18480C90-F955-46CD-9BEB-87E2D8159BBA@ipjustice.org>
References: <20190105051704.GA16579@jay.tarvainen.info>
 <eed05b7c-0907-5d55-e1b1-ec942ae57dba@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CADirp9Tz6=wWyJF2WSEKo=maYFZze=bM_fvbEiiAV3aAGHFDmg@mail.gmail.com>
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To be clear, Martin has been working on the RPM PDP, not the EPDP.

I see you commented on none of the other points I raised so maybe you could
do that now?

How many people are coming to Kobe from the NCUC? While I totally agree
that Amr is a strong advocate for the NCSG policies in the GNSO, why aren't
you using one of the many NCUC slots for him? Who's using the PIR-slot?
That seems like a natural choice for Amr from my point of view. Like I
said, NPOC has very little choices over our few slots and Martin's
replacement is now one of them. We also want Martin's replacement to attend
the NPOC sessions and do work for us like he has always done. Tapani is
willing to do this, like he has done in the past.

Tapani has maybe not attended PDPs, but he's written quite a bit of policy
for the Finnish government on digital rights and has a wealth of experience
in dissecting policy and analysing it.

-Raoul

On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 00:48, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
wrote:

> As this is travel slot and replacement specifically for NCSG GNSO policy
> work, I think it must be used for that purpose.  That means it should go to
> someone who is most advancing NCSG?s policy work, particularly the GNSO
> Council work.  Given that important understanding, I think Amr and Farell
> are the two strongest candidates that we?ve seen so far.  Amr is knee-deep
> in GNSO policy, particularly the EPDP and is just coming off time as a GNSO
> policy staff member, so Amr really knows what is happening in that space
> and is best able to advocate for NCSG?s interests there.  Farrell is also
> an active member of the NCSG policy committee, is keeping on top of NCSG
> policy work, and has made significant contributions on that front in recent
> months, so he?d be my second choice for this GNSO policy work slot.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> On Jan 5, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because
> NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin
> replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani
> certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and
> he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him
> there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well
> as keeping him activated overall.
>
> There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and
> I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for
> example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment,
> apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With
> Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd
> only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have
> coming over?
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that
>> Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am
>> therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the
>> EC wishes me to.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
>> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
>> From: Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>> <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>> To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
>> <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
>> CC: Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>>
>> Hi Stephanie,
>>
>> Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
>> apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
>> council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
>> handle this, I think.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>
>> On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA) wrote:
>>
>>
>> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and
>> successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be
>> doing together in 2019.
>>
>> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is
>> in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64. One of our GNSO
>> Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of
>> other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use
>> of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This
>> decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly.
>> If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please
>> do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief
>> statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current
>> working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot
>> of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work
>> of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at
>> the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO
>> Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow
>> the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to
>> the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will
>> find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and
>> helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.
>>
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>> Chair, NCSG
>>
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Sun Jan  6 01:36:03 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:36:03 -0800
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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Thanks, Raoul.  It is extremely important that these NCSG travel slots remain faithful to NCSG purposes and are not used by the underlying constituencies instead of by the NCSG.  NCSG has an important separation of powers built into our 2-tiered system (NCSG and constituencies), and we need to maintain that separation of powers by ensuring that NCSG resources are put toward NCSG uses, and not siphoned off to the underlying constituencies.

We are NCSG Executive Committee Members charged with putting NCSG resources to NCSG purposes in this instance.  It is important we do not allow allegiances to particular constituencies tempt us into diverting NCSG resources away from NCSG purposes and toward constituency purposes instead.  It is up to us to maintain this separation of powers and keep focused on the interest we are charged with advancing on this committee, the NCSG.

If you have questions about NCUC?s use of travel slots, please take it up with the constituency.  This is a NCSG list for NCSG business.  Who is wearing a red shirt and who is wearing a blue shirt simply isn?t relevant to this conversation on NCSG resources.  We aren't going down that path.

Best,
Robin


> On Jan 5, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To be clear, Martin has been working on the RPM PDP, not the EPDP.
> 
> I see you commented on none of the other points I raised so maybe you could do that now?
> 
> How many people are coming to Kobe from the NCUC? While I totally agree that Amr is a strong advocate for the NCSG policies in the GNSO, why aren't you using one of the many NCUC slots for him? Who's using the PIR-slot? That seems like a natural choice for Amr from my point of view. Like I said, NPOC has very little choices over our few slots and Martin's replacement is now one of them. We also want Martin's replacement to attend the NPOC sessions and do work for us like he has always done. Tapani is willing to do this, like he has done in the past.
> 
> Tapani has maybe not attended PDPs, but he's written quite a bit of policy for the Finnish government on digital rights and has a wealth of experience in dissecting policy and analysing it.
> 
> -Raoul
> 
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 00:48, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
> As this is travel slot and replacement specifically for NCSG GNSO policy work, I think it must be used for that purpose.  That means it should go to someone who is most advancing NCSG?s policy work, particularly the GNSO Council work.  Given that important understanding, I think Amr and Farell are the two strongest candidates that we?ve seen so far.  Amr is knee-deep in GNSO policy, particularly the EPDP and is just coming off time as a GNSO policy staff member, so Amr really knows what is happening in that space and is best able to advocate for NCSG?s interests there.  Farrell is also an active member of the NCSG policy committee, is keeping on top of NCSG policy work, and has made significant contributions on that front in recent months, so he?d be my second choice for this GNSO policy work slot.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well as keeping him activated overall.
>> 
>> There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment, apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have coming over?
>> 
>> -Raoul
>> 
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>> While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the EC wishes me to.
>> 
>> Stephanie
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:	Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
>> Date:	Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
>> From:	Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> <mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>> To:	Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
>> CC:	Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> 
>> Hi Stephanie,
>> 
>> Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
>> apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
>> council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
>> handle this, I think.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tapani Tarvainen
>> 
>> On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA <mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>) wrote:
>>> 
>>> First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.
>>> 
>>> Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64 <https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64>. One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar <https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>> 
>>> Chair, NCSG
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From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info  Sun Jan  6 11:10:37 2019
From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:10:37 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Message-ID: <20190106091037.GA10475@tarvainen.info>

Dear EC,

Apologies for jumping in, but after reading this discussion
thread I feel I have to intervene.

Please consider my application withdrawn.

Should you care about my opinion otherwise, I think both Farell and
Amr could do it, but Amr is clearly the best choice: not only
eminently able but also eager to do the job, whereas I'm only willing
to do it out of sense of duty as it were, as something I could do that
needs doing. But I'm much happier seeing it done by someone both
competent and enthusiastic than doing it myself.

I do want to point out, moot though it now is, that I did not apply as
NPOC representative: I don't have any official position in NPOC or
represent it anywhere or otherwise have any greater role there than in
NCUC (indeed arguably less). And councillors represent NCSG, not its
constituencies.

(Note, I'm not on this list and I only read the archives occasionally.
If you want my attention, please Cc: me explicitly.)

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen


From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Sun Jan  6 21:46:45 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 19:46:45 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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I did not comment on some of the other points you raised, Raoul, partly for the reasons which Robin has raised below.  Furthermore, the last time I checked, Amr is a non-affiliated member of NCSG, so discussing why NCUC should cover his travel is not just out of scope in a discussion re Council representation, it is inaccurate.  Please let me know if I am wrong here, this is our membership list.  https://www.ncuc.org/about/membership/

I am not sure what you are talking about when discussing PIR slots, and I think we should probably have another discussion at policy committee to clarify exactly how travel is funded at ICANN, as I gather there is quite a bit of confusion.  I certainly find the discussions confusing, and I think I am not alone.

I am very, very focused on how much work some people are doing....attending council, ccwg, and pdp meetings.  Reviewing documents.  Listening to recordings and reviewing transcripts.  Responding to complex eamil threads and arguments.  Writing comments, letters, blogs and summaries, all on the actual work that ICANN and its stakeholders are working on.  I would respectfully submit that this ought to be our priority.  We are blessed with many excellent members of NCSG, who are knowledgible about Internet-related matters and work hard in their regular lives.  However, it is the ones who are actually producing product for us....work in the committees here, that I think we need at public meetings.  We are at a critical point for burnout....if we lost two or three key people who are doing most of the work at NCSG, we would become irrelevant.  Sorry to be blunt, and I mean no offence to those who are not actually engaged in our work...everyone has their priorities and not everyone has the dozens of hours a week required to devote to these tasks. But this is what we are here to do.

kind regards Stephanie

On 2019-01-05 18:36, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote:
Thanks, Raoul.  It is extremely important that these NCSG travel slots remain faithful to NCSG purposes and are not used by the underlying constituencies instead of by the NCSG.  NCSG has an important separation of powers built into our 2-tiered system (NCSG and constituencies), and we need to maintain that separation of powers by ensuring that NCSG resources are put toward NCSG uses, and not siphoned off to the underlying constituencies.

We are NCSG Executive Committee Members charged with putting NCSG resources to NCSG purposes in this instance.  It is important we do not allow allegiances to particular constituencies tempt us into diverting NCSG resources away from NCSG purposes and toward constituency purposes instead.  It is up to us to maintain this separation of powers and keep focused on the interest we are charged with advancing on this committee, the NCSG.

If you have questions about NCUC?s use of travel slots, please take it up with the constituency.  This is a NCSG list for NCSG business.  Who is wearing a red shirt and who is wearing a blue shirt simply isn?t relevant to this conversation on NCSG resources.  We aren't going down that path.

Best,
Robin


On Jan 5, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com<mailto:plommer at gmail.com>> wrote:

To be clear, Martin has been working on the RPM PDP, not the EPDP.

I see you commented on none of the other points I raised so maybe you could do that now?

How many people are coming to Kobe from the NCUC? While I totally agree that Amr is a strong advocate for the NCSG policies in the GNSO, why aren't you using one of the many NCUC slots for him? Who's using the PIR-slot? That seems like a natural choice for Amr from my point of view. Like I said, NPOC has very little choices over our few slots and Martin's replacement is now one of them. We also want Martin's replacement to attend the NPOC sessions and do work for us like he has always done. Tapani is willing to do this, like he has done in the past.

Tapani has maybe not attended PDPs, but he's written quite a bit of policy for the Finnish government on digital rights and has a wealth of experience in dissecting policy and analysing it.

-Raoul

On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 00:48, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
As this is travel slot and replacement specifically for NCSG GNSO policy work, I think it must be used for that purpose.  That means it should go to someone who is most advancing NCSG?s policy work, particularly the GNSO Council work.  Given that important understanding, I think Amr and Farell are the two strongest candidates that we?ve seen so far.  Amr is knee-deep in GNSO policy, particularly the EPDP and is just coming off time as a GNSO policy staff member, so Amr really knows what is happening in that space and is best able to advocate for NCSG?s interests there.  Farrell is also an active member of the NCSG policy committee, is keeping on top of NCSG policy work, and has made significant contributions on that front in recent months, so he?d be my second choice for this GNSO policy work slot.

Thanks,
Robin

On Jan 5, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

I think our strongest candidates so far are Amr and Tapani, and because NPOC has only one seat in the council, I'd actually like to see Martin replaced by another competent NPOC member if we had one. I think Tapani certainly is more than capable to handle the council's F2F meetings and he's been following the list until now, so yeah, I'd really want to see him there. It's also about Tapani working for NPOC during the meeting, as well as keeping him activated overall.

There are also other available options that NCUC has to get Amr there, and I have to say I'm somewhat surprised he's not given a PIR-slot, for example. NPOC has really none of these other possible slots at the moment, apart from the standard four of the constituency and NCSG EC slot. With Dave using NPOC's CROP-slot (as opposed to NCUC's) and Martin missing, we'd only have five members coming to Kobe, as it is. How many does NCUC have coming over?

-Raoul

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 21:10, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

While this statement of interest is a little lean, we all know that Tapani was EC Chair recently and is well versed in council matters.  I am therefore not proposing to ask him for more details, unless someone on the EC wishes me to.

Stephanie


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2019 07:17:05 +0200
From:   Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info><mailto:ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>
CC:     Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>


Hi Stephanie,

Count me in. Even though I'm not currently in any working group
apart from being an observer in the ePDP, I've been following
council list and I've been around long enough to be able to
handle this, I think.

Regards,


--
Tapani Tarvainen

On Jan 03 16:43, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA<mailto:stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA>) wrote:


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year! I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64. One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council. This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc. This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle. For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in. You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful. https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest! Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 10 07:44:17 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 05:44:17 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.

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From plommer at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 10:11:21 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:11:21 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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I have two conditions on accepting this:

1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on
our constituency day
2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to
pick Tapani.

-Raoul

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in
> Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has
> withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important
> council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is
> extremely well versed in procedures and rules.
>
> If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon
> EST tomorrow.
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 10 17:09:51 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:09:51 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.

Stephanie


On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
I have two conditions on accepting this:

1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.

-Raoul

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.

Stephanie

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From plommer at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 20:19:55 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:19:55 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for.

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> kirjoitti to 10.
tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:

> Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our
> representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to
> start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG
> meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot
> make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best
> candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.
>
> Stephanie
>
>
> On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
>
> I have two conditions on accepting this:
>
> 1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council
> on our constituency day
> 2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us
> to pick Tapani.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in
>> Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has
>> withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important
>> council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is
>> extremely well versed in procedures and rules.
>>
>> If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at
>> noon EST tomorrow.
>>
>> Stephanie
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Thu Jan 10 20:33:16 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:33:16 -0800
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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All,

I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe.  Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process.  So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it.  But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies.  We?ve never done it before, and we aren?t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources.  Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.

Thanks,
Robin


> On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for. 
> 
> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:
> Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
>> I have two conditions on accepting this:
>> 
>> 1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
>> 2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.
>> 
>> -Raoul
>> 
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>> Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.
>> 
>> If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow. 
>> 
>> Stephanie
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec>
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 10 21:26:27 2019
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:26:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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Dear All,?We have taken our decision about Amr as a replacement for Martin's job. I think that as happened with Farrell last time, Amr should be doing Martin's tasks and one of them is attending to NPOC's Constituency Day and, of course, his job on RPM meetings. I think those details should be talked whether Martin and Amr, and we expect that Amr also will be participating in other topics, as he usually does, beyond that?EPDP what is not the only concern for GNSO Council.??

So, the next stage is to announce that we have a decision. Don't you think?
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaMembership Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El jueves, 10 de enero de 2019 1:33:40 p. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:  
 
 All,
I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe. ?Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process. ?So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it. ?But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies. ?We?ve never done it before, and we aren?t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources. ?Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.
Thanks,Robin



On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for.?
Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:


Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.? Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.? We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.? Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.? If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.

Stephanie




On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:

I have two conditions on accepting this:
1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.
-Raoul
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:


Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.? I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.? I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.? He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.


Stephanie

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 10 21:31:26 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:31:26 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Replacement for Martin Silva at the Kobe GNSO Council
 meeting
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Hi Amr,

thanks very much for applying to step in as a replacement for Martin Silva at thecouncil meeting in Kobe at ICANN64.  We are grateful for your expertise at what promises to be a difficult council meeting, and are pleased to announce that you are the successful candidate in this selection process.  Please start planning your trip as soon as possible; Maryam in cc will be advising the relevant parties at ICANN org and I am sending the forms in to GNSO COuncil today.

I want to take this opportunity, for the record, to thank all who came forward to volunteer.  It is great to see this enthusiasm for participation, and to those who did not make the selection, please do not be discouraged, you are always welcome at the policy committee meetings, and as observers to the Council meetings.

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 10 21:45:18 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
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As Chair, I believe it is my job to do this.  I have done so.  I am completing the other paperwork.

Let me be crystal, crystal clear here.  I am not going to participate in this partisan activity.  Martin is an excellent councilor.  He is an NCSG councilor, not an NPOC councilor.  The fact that he happens to have chosen NPOC as a constituency is irrelevant to his duties as a GNSO councilor.  His replacement, who is selected by this NCSG committee on merit alone, has no obligations to constituencies either.

Regarding replacing Martin in his role on the RPMs working group....this replacement is for the Council position.  Any other activities in which Martin participates, are irrelevant.  Think about it....if Amr is not a member of the RPMS working group, he can hardly just sail in and be Chair or Vice Chair of one of the subgroups, as Martin is.  Martin needs to find someone on the committees on which he participates, to represent him as required on those activities.  Preferably that will be another NCSG person, but it is absolutely not the role of the NCSG-EC to interfere in this.

There is a lot of work on the table to do, notably the ABRs at this precise moment.  Please be aware that every time we are at risk of deflecting the discussion of our core work, into partisan politics and bickering about travel slots, I am going to remind people to put their shoulders to the plough and stop wasting time.  I am afraid I have spent too many years as an executive accountable for the work my group is responsible to deliver, to waste my time on this.  My apologies to all who are offended.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2019-01-10 14:26, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-EC wrote:
Dear All,
We have taken our decision about Amr as a replacement for Martin's job. I think that as happened with Farrell last time, Amr should be doing Martin's tasks and one of them is attending to NPOC's Constituency Day and, of course, his job on RPM meetings. I think those details should be talked whether Martin and Amr, and we expect that Amr also will be participating in other topics, as he usually does, beyond that EPDP what is not the only concern for GNSO Council.

So, the next stage is to announce that we have a decision. Don't you think?

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
Cluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes

Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter: @JmanuRojas<http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>








El jueves, 10 de enero de 2019 1:33:40 p. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:


All,

I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe.  Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process.  So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it.  But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies.  We?ve never done it before, and we aren?t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources.  Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.

Thanks,
Robin


On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for.

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:

Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.

Stephanie


On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
I have two conditions on accepting this:

1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.

-Raoul

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.

Stephanie

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 10 22:38:38 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:38:38 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
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I am not sure this message actually got forwarded to the EC....my apologies, not sure what happened.  This is the gentleman I mentioned earlier, who had not provided enough detail.  I don't think it affects the outcome, in my view.  We need people who have been following the issues and collaborating with the team at some level.

Stephanie


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Subject:        Re: Replacement for a council member in ICANN 64
Date:   Sun, 6 Jan 2019 09:44:42 +0000 (UTC)
From:   Dr. Jacky NG <jackyzxng at yahoo.com.hk><mailto:jackyzxng at yahoo.com.hk>
Reply-To:       Dr. Jacky NG <jackyzxng at yahoo.com.hk><mailto:jackyzxng at yahoo.com.hk>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, maryam.bakoshi at ICANN.ORG<mailto:maryam.bakoshi at ICANN.ORG> <maryam.bakoshi at ICANN.ORG><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at ICANN.ORG>


Dear Stephanie & Maryam,

Thanks for your prompt response, Stephanie!
Please find my statement of interest below:

Start:
I am very truly to express my interest to apply the replacement to participant in ICANN 64.

I newly joined Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group in August 2018.  Afterward, I am thru to (1) read published public policy; (2) comment the draft the new initial public comment; (3) participant the virtual meetings/discussion.  I learnt about the working group of NCSG. And plan to step forward to contribute my knowledge and expertise to NCSG in coming future.

Prior joining the NCSG, I am one of the selection committees of Beyond the Net Funding Programme, Internet Society, Global; I am also the treasurer of Internet Society (Hong Kong Chapter) since 2017.

I participated ICANN Meeting in person i.e. ICANN Meeting 52, 53, 54, 55, 57, 59, 60.

End.

Attached please find my Brief BIO for your consideration.

Thanks again for your time to read thru my message, I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks,
Jacky




Stephanie Perrin (<stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>) ? 2019?1?5???? ??4:16:32 [GMT+8] ???



Hi Jacky,

Welcome to NCSG!  You are certainly welcome to apply to replace the Martin at this Council meeting, but if you have not been following the work at Council, your application will probably be ranked lower in the list of candidates.  I would heartily recommend listening in to a few Council meetings and following their work as indicated below, but by all means apply with a statement of interest if you would like to try.  The opportunity is open to all!

Kind regards,

Stephanie Perrin

On 2019-01-03 20:17, NG Jacky wrote:
Dear Stephanie,
This is Jacky. Hope my message finds you well.
I am a new joiner to the team but I plan to join the ICANN64 in March. Could I be eligible to apply the said council replacement?

Thanks,
Jacky

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> ? 2019?1?4? 00:43 ???


First, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy and successful New Year!  I am looking forward to the great work we will be doing together in 2019.

Readers of this list will be aware that the next ICANN public meeting is in Kobe in March https://meetings.icann.org/en/kobe64.  One of our GNSO Council members, Martin Valent, is unable to attend the meeting because of other commitments and we need to replace him quickly, in order to make use of his travel funding allotment, which is allocated by Council.  This decision is done through the NCSG EC, and we need to make it very quickly. If you are interested in applying to replace Martin at the meeting, please do so in the next five (5) days, sending me and Maryam Bakoshi a brief statement of your interest, your experience with the council, current working group membership etc.  This is not for a novice, Council has a lot of important work on the agenda and if you have not been following the work of Council or the key working groups and policy development processes at the moment, you will find it a struggle.  For those not familiar with GNSO Council, it is pretty easy to get engaged...check out the website, follow the lists, attend the monthly Council calls as an observer, or listen to the recordings of any of the working groups you are interested in.  You will find the website (unlike many at ICANN) is actually well organized and helpful.  https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar


Thanks for your interest!  Deadline is Tuesday January 8, 12:00 UTC.


Stephanie Perrin

Chair, NCSG
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Fri Jan 11 03:06:43 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:06:43 -0800
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Thank you, Stephanie.  I?m in complete agreement and expect we will not have to go through this line of argumentation again, as we should be well aware of how to exercise our duties as NCSG officers by now.

Best,
Robin


> On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> As Chair, I believe it is my job to do this.  I have done so.  I am completing the other paperwork.
> 
> Let me be crystal, crystal clear here.  I am not going to participate in this partisan activity.  Martin is an excellent councilor.  He is an NCSG councilor, not an NPOC councilor.  The fact that he happens to have chosen NPOC as a constituency is irrelevant to his duties as a GNSO councilor.  His replacement, who is selected by this NCSG committee on merit alone, has no obligations to constituencies either.
> 
> Regarding replacing Martin in his role on the RPMs working group....this replacement is for the Council position.  Any other activities in which Martin participates, are irrelevant.  Think about it....if Amr is not a member of the RPMS working group, he can hardly just sail in and be Chair or Vice Chair of one of the subgroups, as Martin is.  Martin needs to find someone on the committees on which he participates, to represent him as required on those activities.  Preferably that will be another NCSG person, but it is absolutely not the role of the NCSG-EC to interfere in this.
> 
> There is a lot of work on the table to do, notably the ABRs at this precise moment.  Please be aware that every time we are at risk of deflecting the discussion of our core work, into partisan politics and bickering about travel slots, I am going to remind people to put their shoulders to the plough and stop wasting time.  I am afraid I have spent too many years as an executive accountable for the work my group is responsible to deliver, to waste my time on this.  My apologies to all who are offended.
> 
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2019-01-10 14:26, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-EC wrote:
>> Dear All, 
>> We have taken our decision about Amr as a replacement for Martin's job. I think that as happened with Farrell last time, Amr should be doing Martin's tasks and one of them is attending to NPOC's Constituency Day and, of course, his job on RPM meetings. I think those details should be talked whether Martin and Amr, and we expect that Amr also will be participating in other topics, as he usually does, beyond that EPDP what is not the only concern for GNSO Council.  
>> 
>> So, the next stage is to announce that we have a decision. Don't you think?
>> 
>> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
>> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
>> Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
>> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
>> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>> 
>> Cel. +57 3017435600
>> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                                                
>> 
>> 
>> El jueves, 10 de enero de 2019 1:33:40 p. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe.  Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process.  So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it.  But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies.  We?ve never done it before, and we aren?t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources.  Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for. 
>>> 
>>> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:
>>> Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.
>>> 
>>> Stephanie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
>>>> I have two conditions on accepting this:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
>>>> 2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.
>>>> 
>>>> -Raoul
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>>>> Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.
>>>> 
>>>> If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow. 
>>>> 
>>>> Stephanie
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From Monika.Zalnieriute at eui.eu  Fri Jan 11 06:57:37 2019
From: Monika.Zalnieriute at eui.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:57:37 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Decision on replacement for council
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Hey NCSG EC,


I would be grateful if I was taken off this mailing list, as I am not currently serving NCSG on the EC,


Best wishes,


Monika


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Thank you, Stephanie.  I?m in complete agreement and expect we will not have to go through this line of argumentation again, as we should be well aware of how to exercise our duties as NCSG officers by now.

Best,
Robin


On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:


As Chair, I believe it is my job to do this.  I have done so.  I am completing the other paperwork.

Let me be crystal, crystal clear here.  I am not going to participate in this partisan activity.  Martin is an excellent councilor.  He is an NCSG councilor, not an NPOC councilor.  The fact that he happens to have chosen NPOC as a constituency is irrelevant to his duties as a GNSO councilor.  His replacement, who is selected by this NCSG committee on merit alone, has no obligations to constituencies either.

Regarding replacing Martin in his role on the RPMs working group....this replacement is for the Council position.  Any other activities in which Martin participates, are irrelevant.  Think about it....if Amr is not a member of the RPMS working group, he can hardly just sail in and be Chair or Vice Chair of one of the subgroups, as Martin is.  Martin needs to find someone on the committees on which he participates, to represent him as required on those activities.  Preferably that will be another NCSG person, but it is absolutely not the role of the NCSG-EC to interfere in this.

There is a lot of work on the table to do, notably the ABRs at this precise moment.  Please be aware that every time we are at risk of deflecting the discussion of our core work, into partisan politics and bickering about travel slots, I am going to remind people to put their shoulders to the plough and stop wasting time.  I am afraid I have spent too many years as an executive accountable for the work my group is responsible to deliver, to waste my time on this.  My apologies to all who are offended.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2019-01-10 14:26, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-EC wrote:
Dear All,
We have taken our decision about Amr as a replacement for Martin's job. I think that as happened with Farrell last time, Amr should be doing Martin's tasks and one of them is attending to NPOC's Constituency Day and, of course, his job on RPM meetings. I think those details should be talked whether Martin and Amr, and we expect that Amr also will be participating in other topics, as he usually does, beyond that EPDP what is not the only concern for GNSO Council.

So, the next stage is to announce that we have a decision. Don't you think?

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
Cluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes

Cel. +57 3017435600
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El jueves, 10 de enero de 2019 1:33:40 p. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:


All,

I think it would be terrific for NPOC to invite Amr to speak to them on constituency day in Kobe.  Amr has a wealth of knowledge and experience with GNSO-NCSG policy procedures and issues; and it would be great for NPOC members to hear from someone so deeply engaged in the GNSO policy process.  So I do encourage NPOC to invite Amr to speak to its members so they may become more engaged in policy development; and I expect Amr would be glad to do it.  But that is between NPOC and Amr, and it is not appropriate for this NCSG committee to suddenly start making such demands on behalf of particular constituencies.  We?ve never done it before, and we aren?t going to start allowing any constituency to make demands on NCSG resources.  Furthermore, Tapani withdrew his application, additionally making the issue moot.

Thanks,
Robin


On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

I think coming to our Constituency day is really not too much to ask for.

Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> kirjoitti to 10. tammik. 2019 klo 17.09:

Really folks, I am not going to argue these things on party politics.  Our representation at GNSO council is at the NCSG level.  We are not going to start having separate constituency briefings.  Show up at the NCSG meetings, including the policy committee.  If for some reason Amr cannot make it to Kobe at the last meeting, we will decide who is the best candidate then , from the applicants available who applied for this process.

Stephanie


On 2019-01-10 03:11, Raoul Plommer wrote:
I have two conditions on accepting this:

1) Amr needs to come to NPOC sessions, at least to report on the council on our constituency day
2) If Amr can't make it to Kobe, for example for visa reasons, I want us to pick Tapani.

-Raoul

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:44, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Folks, we need a decision on the replacement for Martin for council in Kobe.  I think there is rough tconsensus on Amr, now that Tapani has withdrawn.  I think Farell would also be good, but this is an important council meeting for the EPDPm so my inclination is to pick Amr.  He also is extremely well versed in procedures and rules.

If I hear no objections, I am going to inform the relevant parties at noon EST tomorrow.

Stephanie

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From aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja  Fri Jan 11 14:48:01 2019
From: aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:48:01 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Replacement for Martin Silva at the Kobe GNSO Council
 meeting
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Hi Stephanie,

Thanks for letting me know, and thanks to the NCSG EC for placing its confidence in me. I?ll do what I can to fill in for Martin while in Kobe, and will certainly coordinate this with him.

I?ll also stand by for instructions on arranging travel to Kobe, and will keep you posted on how it goes.

Thanks again.

Amr

> On Jan 10, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Amr,
>
> thanks very much for applying to step in as a replacement for Martin Silva at thecouncil meeting in Kobe at ICANN64.  We are grateful for your expertise at what promises to be a difficult council meeting, and are pleased to announce that you are the successful candidate in this selection process.  Please start planning your trip as soon as possible; Maryam in cc will be advising the relevant parties at ICANN org and I am sending the forms in to GNSO COuncil today.
>
> I want to take this opportunity, for the record, to thank all who came forward to volunteer.  It is great to see this enthusiasm for participation, and to those who did not make the selection, please do not be discouraged, you are always welcome at the policy committee meetings, and as observers to the Council meetings.
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Mon Jan 14 19:29:43 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:29:43 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
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Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.

cheers Steph

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From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 20:04:51 2019
From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:04:51 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
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For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as
it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)

best,

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
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> Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I
> think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can
> people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and
> Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I
> in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in
> UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.
>
> cheers Steph
>
> PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 14 21:17:15 2019
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:17:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
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Dear all,?

For that week, I have not many troubles in schedule my time. At least ,not for now. So, I will be available for our meeting.? I am in UTC-5, by the way Stephanie, but I think a good slot is around 13 or 14 UTC. What do you think or Should we launch a doodle to plan our next call??
Best Regards,

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El lunes, 14 de enero de 2019 1:05:18 p. m. GMT-5, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:  
 
 For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)
best,
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:


Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.? Can people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and Wednesday next week.? WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in UTC-8.? Please let me know your preferred times both days.

cheers Steph

PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest convenience.

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Mon Jan 14 22:14:24 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:14:24 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <1962470858.1107477.1547493435443@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <4c2f04e8-8083-72b8-24a9-5d24140cede0@mail.utoronto.ca>
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That's great Juan, WHat city are you in?  I agree, UTC 13 or 14 seems best.  Waiting for Robin, as she has the most pain here, getting up for a 5 or 6 am call....

I think maybe we don't need a doodle since there are so few of us.

cheers STeph

On 2019-01-14 14:17, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:

Dear all,

For that week, I have not many troubles in schedule my time. At least ,not for now. So, I will be available for our meeting.  I am in UTC-5, by the way Stephanie, but I think a good slot is around 13 or 14 UTC. What do you think or Should we launch a doodle to plan our next call?

Best Regards,

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
Cluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes

Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter: @JmanuRojas<http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>








El lunes, 14 de enero de 2019 1:05:18 p. m. GMT-5, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:


For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)

best,

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.

cheers Steph

PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest convenience.

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From plommer at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 22:43:38 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 22:43:38 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <7d0aac32-2751-03db-7082-b8c1c6e7e4c3@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <4c2f04e8-8083-72b8-24a9-5d24140cede0@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CAPZSw-pTZ38bkz9YouVTx=4aQ==h3fjtm+5FBc3hwRiCMadWWg@mail.gmail.com>
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I can only do this on the 22nd, for I'm educating pensioners on data
protection on Wednesday.

-Raoul

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 22:14, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> That's great Juan, WHat city are you in?  I agree, UTC 13 or 14 seems
> best.  Waiting for Robin, as she has the most pain here, getting up for a 5
> or 6 am call....
>
> I think maybe we don't need a doodle since there are so few of us.
>
> cheers STeph
> On 2019-01-14 14:17, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> For that week, I have not many troubles in schedule my time. At least ,not
> for now. So, I will be available for our meeting.  I am in UTC-5, by the
> way Stephanie, but I think a good slot is around 13 or 14 UTC. What do you
> think or Should we launch a doodle to plan our next call?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns
> Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>
> Cel. +57 3017435600
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El lunes, 14 de enero de 2019 1:05:18 p. m. GMT-5, Rapha?l
> Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:
>
>
> For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as
> it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)
>
> best,
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I
> think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can
> people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and
> Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I
> in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in
> UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.
>
> cheers Steph
>
> PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest
> convenience.
> _______________________________________________
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Jan 15 07:26:53 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 05:26:53 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Here are two ABRs to consider
Message-ID: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>

Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.

Thanks!

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From plommer at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 10:45:33 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:45:33 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <CADirp9SgQswsWz_tnfKXcFKe6WMoCQ5_BsT4D7ut3cS0p2t6mw@mail.gmail.com>

I think the slack license should be bought from the communication/website
budget, that we get $9000/yr from ICANN.

-Raoul

Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> kirjoitti ti 15.
tammik. 2019 klo 7.27:

> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help,
> and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if
> you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get
> them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a
> train to Toronto for the EPDP.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
> _______________________________________________
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Jan 15 13:53:37 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:53:37 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
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References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
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On 2019-01-15 06:44, Stephanie Perrin wrote:

So sorry, I forgot the google link! So much for working late....https://docs.google.com/document/d/102YzYI5uS2fGWS1FbhyaTACfRlPgxRam_h3cUasWzDQ/edit

On 2019-01-15 06:40, Ars?ne Tungali wrote:

Stephanie,

I am afraid you maybe forgot to make attachments? I cannot see the
ABRs you are reffering to.

Thanks,
Arsene

2019-01-15 7:26 UTC+02:00, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:


Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and
to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you
would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them
to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to
Toronto for the EPDP.

Thanks!

Stephanie


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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Jan 15 13:54:07 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:54:07 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
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On 2019-01-15 06:46, Stephanie Perrin wrote:

I asked Maryam to check.  Thanks

On 2019-01-15 06:24, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the submission of ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?

Best wishes,
Ayden


??????? Original Message ???????
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:


Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.

Thanks!

Stephanie




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From thatomfikwe at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 11:25:49 2019
From: thatomfikwe at gmail.com (Thato Mfikwe)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:25:49 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-FC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
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Message-ID: <CAGZi7NsW-hsLRK-H8N-6MSGU-o6LokigaFGAhaT8hoYAVxD0Zg@mail.gmail.com>

Ho Stephanie,

There are no attachments on this email. Please resend, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help,
> and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if
> you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get
> them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a
> train to Toronto for the EPDP.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Tue Jan 15 13:24:08 2019
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:24:08 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <Ziq0zWBnFpPCZL8gqZBRLQJMmnsUwZnsBS9wG_nbjj1QIoyAv-8LfAu2RRN4flOsCCLMuFu5iNZ-hbND-Hybpc6TJTFuqWNtwAfptRHZVfM=@ferdeline.com>

Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the submission of ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?

Best wishes,
Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 13:40:04 2019
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:40:04 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <CABDXvWqiM_-DyYdSRJAm+_yuEPyUhN+tXME7bKy13bLdVKgpPg@mail.gmail.com>

Stephanie,

I am afraid you maybe forgot to make attachments? I cannot see the
ABRs you are reffering to.

Thanks,
Arsene

2019-01-15 7:26 UTC+02:00, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and
> to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you
> would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them
> to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to
> Toronto for the EPDP.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
>


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From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca  Tue Jan 15 13:44:57 2019
From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:44:57 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <CABDXvWqiM_-DyYdSRJAm+_yuEPyUhN+tXME7bKy13bLdVKgpPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <CABDXvWqiM_-DyYdSRJAm+_yuEPyUhN+tXME7bKy13bLdVKgpPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fa44112-24f3-a3af-3377-b1e1b953b0e8@digitaldiscretion.ca>

So sorry, I forgot the google link! So much for working 
late....https://docs.google.com/document/d/102YzYI5uS2fGWS1FbhyaTACfRlPgxRam_h3cUasWzDQ/edit

On 2019-01-15 06:40, Ars?ne Tungali wrote:
> Stephanie,
>
> I am afraid you maybe forgot to make attachments? I cannot see the
> ABRs you are reffering to.
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
> 2019-01-15 7:26 UTC+02:00, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and
>> to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you
>> would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them
>> to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to
>> Toronto for the EPDP.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>
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From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca  Tue Jan 15 13:46:05 2019
From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:46:05 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <Ziq0zWBnFpPCZL8gqZBRLQJMmnsUwZnsBS9wG_nbjj1QIoyAv-8LfAu2RRN4flOsCCLMuFu5iNZ-hbND-Hybpc6TJTFuqWNtwAfptRHZVfM=@ferdeline.com>
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I asked Maryam to check.? Thanks

On 2019-01-15 06:24, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the 
> submission of ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?
>
> Best wishes,
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks.? Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their 
>> help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.? Please let 
>> me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I 
>> would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on 
>> time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 14:24:13 2019
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:24:13 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
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Thank you Stephanie,

I have reviewed both ABRs and I think they look great, i have made
minor edits though. I understand the time constraints that led this to
be done in hurry, we would have done better.

I have a comment on the second one about the training on security
issues. This comment was also made by Farell on the Google doc but
wanted to bring it here and weigh in for archiving purposes.

Given that we are asking for funding to bring in some participants and
have the workshop be held a day prior or after an ICANN meeting, I
think to make our submission stronger, we might need to to be clear
and focus such as by requesting for specific trainers who will help
design a specific curriculum on a specific subjet. Rather than relying
on groups such as the SSAC not mentionning a specific name or so.

I too think we are too vague and this may affect our submission.

Just wanted to throw this here.

Regards,
Arsene

2019-01-15 13:54 UTC+02:00, Stephanie Perrin
<stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>
> On 2019-01-15 06:46, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> I asked Maryam to check.  Thanks
>
> On 2019-01-15 06:24, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the submission of
> ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?
>
> Best wishes,
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and
> to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you
> would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them
> to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to
> Toronto for the EPDP.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephanie
>
>
>
>
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Tue Jan 15 14:47:31 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:47:31 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <Ziq0zWBnFpPCZL8gqZBRLQJMmnsUwZnsBS9wG_nbjj1QIoyAv-8LfAu2RRN4flOsCCLMuFu5iNZ-hbND-Hybpc6TJTFuqWNtwAfptRHZVfM=@ferdeline.com>
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Dear Ayden, Stephanie, All,

I see this information from the Finance committee wiki<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=96213580>:
?         FY20 Budget Requests Submitted - Pending Due Date 25 Jan 2019
Based on this, I am assuming the deadline has been extended.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Ayden F?rdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM>
Reply-To: Ayden F?rdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM>
Date: Tuesday, 15 January 2019 at 11:24
To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
Cc: NCSG PC <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>, NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>, NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>, Bruna Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider

Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the submission of ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?

Best wishes,
Ayden


??????? Original Message ???????
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:


Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.

Thanks!

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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Jan 15 19:16:38 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:16:38 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <8624BF1F-5006-4E55-ADB0-EFD64F111783@icann.org>
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wonderful, that gives us time to resolve some of the excellent comments we got.

On 2019-01-15 07:47, Maryam Bakoshi wrote:
Dear Ayden, Stephanie, All,

I see this information from the Finance committee wiki<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=96213580>:
?         FY20 Budget Requests Submitted - Pending Due Date 25 Jan 2019
Based on this, I am assuming the deadline has been extended.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Ayden F?rdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM><mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>
Reply-To: Ayden F?rdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM><mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>
Date: Tuesday, 15 January 2019 at 11:24
To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
Cc: NCSG PC <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>, NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>, NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>, Bruna Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com><mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-PC] Here are two ABRs to consider

Perhaps Maryam can clarify, but I thought the deadline for the submission of ABRs was on the 25th of this month? Or is it tomorrow?

Best wishes,
Ayden


??????? Original Message ???????
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:26 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:


Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help, and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a train to Toronto for the EPDP.

Thanks!

Stephanie

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From robin at ipjustice.org  Tue Jan 15 20:14:17 2019
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:14:17 -0800
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
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Ok, I can make the proposed time on the 22nd at 14:00 UTC (that's 6am for me, which means I?ll be groggy, but is do-able).

Thanks,
Robin


> On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> I can only do this on the 22nd, for I'm educating pensioners on data protection on Wednesday.
> 
> -Raoul
> 
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 22:14, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
> That's great Juan, WHat city are you in?  I agree, UTC 13 or 14 seems best.  Waiting for Robin, as she has the most pain here, getting up for a 5 or 6 am call....
> 
> I think maybe we don't need a doodle since there are so few of us.
> 
> cheers STeph
> On 2019-01-14 14:17, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all, 
>> 
>> For that week, I have not many troubles in schedule my time. At least ,not for now. So, I will be available for our meeting.  I am in UTC-5, by the way Stephanie, but I think a good slot is around 13 or 14 UTC. What do you think or Should we launch a doodle to plan our next call? 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
>> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
>> Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
>> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
>> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>> 
>> Cel. +57 3017435600
>> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                                                
>> 
>> 
>> El lunes, 14 de enero de 2019 1:05:18 p. m. GMT-5, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:
>> 
>> 
>> For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>> Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.
>> 
>> cheers Steph
>> 
>> PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest convenience.
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 20:35:16 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:35:16 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Here are two ABRs to consider
In-Reply-To: <CADirp9SgQswsWz_tnfKXcFKe6WMoCQ5_BsT4D7ut3cS0p2t6mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3c4a8f98-d0bc-861f-5226-6e73e872f608@mail.utoronto.ca>
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That budget is for maintaining CIVI where we are keeping personal
information of our members which is very important to be maintained and
secured by a managed service. Hence I do not recommend using that budget
for any other purpose unless it is not used.

Farzaneh


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:45 AM Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> I think the slack license should be bought from the communication/website
> budget, that we get $9000/yr from ICANN.
>
> -Raoul
>
> Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> kirjoitti ti 15.
> tammik. 2019 klo 7.27:
>
>> Hi Folks.  Here are two ABRs, thanks to Bruna and Farzi for their help,
>> and to Ayden for the idea about the Slack licence.  Please let me know if
>> you would like further changes, I promised Maryam that I would try to get
>> them to her early so that she can get them in on time....I will be on a
>> train to Toronto for the EPDP.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stephanie
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Jan 15 20:40:29 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:40:29 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] meeting next week?
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Great, Maryam can you please set this up for us?  Thanks everybody for your quick response!

Stephanie

On 2019-01-15 13:14, Robin Gross wrote:
Ok, I can make the proposed time on the 22nd at 14:00 UTC (that's 6am for me, which means I?ll be groggy, but is do-able).

Thanks,
Robin


On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

I can only do this on the 22nd, for I'm educating pensioners on data protection on Wednesday.

-Raoul

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 22:14, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

That's great Juan, WHat city are you in?  I agree, UTC 13 or 14 seems best.  Waiting for Robin, as she has the most pain here, getting up for a 5 or 6 am call....

I think maybe we don't need a doodle since there are so few of us.

cheers STeph

On 2019-01-14 14:17, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:

Dear all,

For that week, I have not many troubles in schedule my time. At least ,not for now. So, I will be available for our meeting.  I am in UTC-5, by the way Stephanie, but I think a good slot is around 13 or 14 UTC. What do you think or Should we launch a doodle to plan our next call?

Best Regards,

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
Cluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes

Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter: @JmanuRojas<http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>








El lunes, 14 de enero de 2019 1:05:18 p. m. GMT-5, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:


For now I'm available all day on 22nd but certain slots may close down as it gets closer. 23rd I would only be available 7-10pm (in -5 as you noted)

best,

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Hi folks, we have a number of membership applications to go through, and I think we should have a discussion of the bank account issues offlist.  Can people tell me their availability on January 22nd and 23rdm, so Tuesday and Wednesday next week.  WE have Maryam in UTC, Raoul in UTC +2, Raphael and I in UTC-5, Juan in UTC-3 ( I think, correct me if I am wrong) and Robin in UTC-8.  Please let me know your preferred times both days.

cheers Steph

PS and get in to comment on the membership applications at your earliest convenience.

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From PolicyCalendar at icann.org  Tue Jan 15 23:35:04 2019
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Subject: [NCSG-EC] Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting | 22 January
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        800 04212

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        8 820 0011 0341

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Belgium (toll free):
        0800 39279

Bosnia and Herzegovina:
        +387 7031 1442

Brazil, Sao Paulo:
        +55 11 4935 7169

Brazil, Rio de Janeiro:
        +55 21 4560 0072

Brazil (toll free):
        0800 887 0233

Bulgaria, Sofia:
        +359 (0) 2 491 6045

Bulgaria (toll free):
        00800 111 4950

Cambodia, Phnom Penh:
        +855 23 965 723

Canada (toll free):
        1 855 950 3717

Chile, Santiago:
        +56 (0) 2 2666 0696

Chile (toll free):
        171 800 835 783

China (national):
        +400 613 8103

China, Beijing:
        +86 10 5667 0003

China, Shanghai:
        +86 21 2039 7081

Colombia, Bogota:
        +57 1 508 8137

Colombia (toll free):
        01 800 755 0102

Costa Rica (toll free):
        800 542 5328

Croatia (toll free):
        0800 805 940

Cyprus (toll free):
        800 97424

Czech Republic, Prague:
        +420 225 986 554

Czech Republic (toll free):
        800 701 532

Denmark, Copenhagen:
        +45 32 72 78 10

Denmark (toll free):
        80 70 35 86

Egypt (toll free):
        0800 000 0593

Estonia, Tallinn:
        +372 622 6551

Estonia (toll free):
        800 011 1589

Fiji (toll free):
        00800 3322

Finland, Helsinki:
        +358 (0) 9 2310 1677

Finland (toll free):
        0800 772 236

France, Paris:
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France (toll free):
        0800 946 531

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        0821 231 671

Georgia, Tbilisi:
        +995 32 2 050 778

Germany, Frankfurt:
        +49 (0) 69 2222 10612

Germany, Munich:
        +49 (0) 89 2030 31207

Germany (national):
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Germany (toll free):
        0800 588 9170

Greece, Athens:
        +30 211 181 3824

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Hong Kong (toll free):
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Iceland (toll free):
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India, Bangalore:
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Israel, Tel Aviv:
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Kenya, Nairobi:
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Kuwait (national):
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Macau (national):
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Morocco (toll free):
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New Zealand, Christchurch:
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Oman (toll free):
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Pakistan, Islamabad:
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Panama, Panama City:
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Panama (toll free):
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Peru, Lima:
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Philippines, Manila:
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Philippines (toll free):
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Poland, Warsaw:
        +48 22 295 3570

Poland (toll free):
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Portugal, Lisbon:
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Portugal (toll free):
        800 784 442

Qatar (freephone):
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Romania, Bucharest:
        +40 (0) 21 529 3992

Romania (toll free):
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Russia, Moscow:
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Russia (toll free):
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Saudi Arabia (toll free):
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        0800 500 896

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UK (national):
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Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh:
        +84 28 4458 1322

Vietnam (toll free):
        1800 9226
















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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sun Jan 20 22:34:28 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 15:34:28 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-EC] New feature in NCSG membership evaluation
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvC53QW41PAD=brOTzudwuK6r-kqa9jfVAMc9m3kTr7fLw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

If you login to your accounts and see the new approval membership form you
would be happy to see that this time you can go to your own box, indicate
your comment without having to put in your initials.


We still need to make the frontend more user-friendly but that was one
thing that needed to be done.

I am slowly trying to move away from working with CIVI and transfer
everything to Raphael who has been gracious enough to respond to my pleas
for help.



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Enjoy this new feature and report any problem.

There is more to come.



Farzaneh
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From plommer at gmail.com  Mon Jan 21 12:34:51 2019
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:34:51 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] New feature in NCSG membership evaluation
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvC53QW41PAD=brOTzudwuK6r-kqa9jfVAMc9m3kTr7fLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvC53QW41PAD=brOTzudwuK6r-kqa9jfVAMc9m3kTr7fLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADirp9R+LJqxzR=HYj0ZYgQwg5Fu8DQL7Ax6TaHEMVvSK5cwBg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the update Farzi, I'm looking forward to using this feature in
tomorrow's meeting. I will have to leave at 15.30 UTC latest, however.

-Raoul

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 22:35, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> If you login to your accounts and see the new approval membership form you
> would be happy to see that this time you can go to your own box, indicate
> your comment without having to put in your initials.
>
>
> We still need to make the frontend more user-friendly but that was one
> thing that needed to be done.
>
> I am slowly trying to move away from working with CIVI and transfer
> everything to Raphael who has been gracious enough to respond to my pleas
> for help.
>
>
>
> [image: Screenshot 2019-01-20 15.28.19.png]
> [image: Screenshot 2019-01-20 15.28.30.png]
>
> Enjoy this new feature and report any problem.
>
> There is more to come.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Jan 21 15:33:41 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:33:41 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] ABR Submission Deadline - FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019
Message-ID: <FD729BD1-2D29-4FCC-A6D2-D269CF3E3723@icann.org>

Dear All,

This is a gentle reminder that the deadline for ABR submission is this FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019.

Please do not hesitate to send me the documents for final review and submission.

Thank you very much.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777

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From PolicyCalendar at icann.org  Mon Jan 21 15:37:42 2019
From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:37:42 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] **REMINDER**Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting | 22
 January 2019 | 1400 UTC
Message-ID: <43e6befa144842bf918f4a18c19ffa69@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

Dear All,



**REMINDER**



Please find participation details for the Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting on 22 January 2019 at 1400 UTC



Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/ncsg



Time Zones: https://tinyurl.com/y8mfgyob



Dial out request: please send an email to Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> off-list.



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        +84 28 4458 1322

Vietnam (toll free):
        1800 9226
















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From PolicyCalendar at icann.org  Tue Jan 22 14:11:25 2019
From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:11:25 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] **REMINDER**Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting | 22
 January 2019 | 1400 UTC
Message-ID: <b020d8d6c77a483d823b2dc0e77f1f03@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

Dear All,



**REMINDER**



Please find participation details for the Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting on 22 January 2019 at 1400 UTC



Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/ncsg



Time Zones: https://tinyurl.com/y8mfgyob



Dial out request: please send an email to Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> off-list.



Audio dial-in details below:

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You're invited.
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Have the meeting call you.
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Mobile:
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Phone Only Controls :
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Access Number:
        1-605-475-5604

Guest Passcode:
        992 279 0467

Additional Access:

USA:
        1-605-475-5604

USA:
        1-719-457-6209

Canada, Calgary:
        +1 403 407 5793

Canada, Montreal:
        +1 514 669 5928

Canada, Toronto:
        +1 647 426 9172

Canada, Vancouver:
        +1 604 222 7836

Argentina, Buenos Aires:
        +54 (0) 11 5172 6003

Argentina (toll free):
        0800 800 1223

Australia, Sydney:
        +61 (0) 2 8017 6064

Australia, Melbourne:
        +61 (0) 3 8687 0553

Australia, Brisbane:
        +61 (0) 7 3015 0535

Australia (toll free):
        1 800 804 786

Austria (toll free):
        0800 070 981

Bahrain, Manama:
        +973 1619 8739

Bahrain (toll free):
        800 04212

Belarus (toll free):
        8 820 0011 0341

Belgium, Brussels:
        +32 (0) 2 400 6928

Belgium (toll free):
        0800 39279

Bosnia and Herzegovina:
        +387 7031 1442

Brazil, Sao Paulo:
        +55 11 4935 7169

Brazil, Rio de Janeiro:
        +55 21 4560 0072

Brazil (toll free):
        0800 887 0233

Bulgaria, Sofia:
        +359 (0) 2 491 6045

Bulgaria (toll free):
        00800 111 4950

Cambodia, Phnom Penh:
        +855 23 965 723

Canada (toll free):
        1 855 950 3717

Chile, Santiago:
        +56 (0) 2 2666 0696

Chile (toll free):
        171 800 835 783

China (national):
        +400 613 8103

China, Beijing:
        +86 10 5667 0003

China, Shanghai:
        +86 21 2039 7081

Colombia, Bogota:
        +57 1 508 8137

Colombia (toll free):
        01 800 755 0102

Costa Rica (toll free):
        800 542 5328

Croatia (toll free):
        0800 805 940

Cyprus (toll free):
        800 97424

Czech Republic, Prague:
        +420 225 986 554

Czech Republic (toll free):
        800 701 532

Denmark, Copenhagen:
        +45 32 72 78 10

Denmark (toll free):
        80 70 35 86

Egypt (toll free):
        0800 000 0593

Estonia, Tallinn:
        +372 622 6551

Estonia (toll free):
        800 011 1589

Fiji (toll free):
        00800 3322

Finland, Helsinki:
        +358 (0) 9 2310 1677

Finland (toll free):
        0800 772 236

France, Paris:
        +33 (0) 1 70 37 16 56

France (toll free):
        0800 946 531

France (national):
        0811 655 100

France (national):
        0821 231 671

Georgia, Tbilisi:
        +995 32 2 050 778

Germany, Frankfurt:
        +49 (0) 69 2222 10612

Germany, Munich:
        +49 (0) 89 2030 31207

Germany (national):
        01801 003 899

Germany (toll free):
        0800 588 9170

Greece, Athens:
        +30 211 181 3824

Greece (toll free):
        00800 128 913

Hong Kong:
        +852 3018 9111

Hong Kong (toll free):
        800 901 787

Hungary, Budapest:
        +36 1408 8953

Hungary (toll free):
        068 001 9673

Iceland (toll free):
        800 9847

India, Delhi:
        +91 11 6310 0268

India, Mumbai:
        +91 22 6310 0298

India, Chennai:
        +91 44 6310 0234

India, Bangalore:
        +91 80 6760 8755

India (toll free):
        1800 3010 1582

Indonesia, Jakarta:
        +62 21 2188 9084

Indonesia (toll free):
        007 803 321 8927

Ireland, Dublin:
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Ireland (national):
        0818 270 271

Ireland (toll free):
        1800 937 649

Ireland (national):
        1890 907 630

Israel, Tel Aviv:
        +972 (0)3 721 7943

Israel (toll free):
        1809 213 168

Italy, Milan:
        +39 02 3600 8006

Italy, Rome:
        +39 06 8750 0676

Italy (toll free):
        800 146 094

Japan, Tokyo:
        +81 3 4560 1270

Japan, Osaka:
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Japan (toll free):
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Japan (mobile):
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Japan (national):
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Jordan (toll free):
        0800 22172

Kazakhstan (toll free):
        8800 333 7554

Kenya, Nairobi:
        +254 (0)207 643 581

South Korea, Seoul:
        +82 (0) 2 6007 0079

South Korea (toll free):
        00798 6136 1454

Kuwait (national):
        +965 2206 3002

Latvia, Riga:
        +371 6601 3627

Latvia (toll free):
        8000 4418

Lithuania, Vilnius:
        +370 5205 5468

Lithuania (toll free):
        8800 31449

Luxembourg:
        +352 2088 1749

Luxembourg (toll free):
        800 28433

Macau (national):
        +853 6262 1676

Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur:
        +60 (0) 3 7724 8010

Malaysia (toll free):
        1 800 816 152

Mexico, Guadalajara:
        +52 33 4162 4504

Mexico, Mexico City:
        +52 55 8421 0326

Mexico, Monterrey:
        +52 81 4162 5648

Mexico (toll free):
        01 800 733 4102

Morocco, Casablanca:
        +212 (0) 520 48 0022

Morocco (toll free):
        0800 091 296

Netherlands, Amsterdam:
        +31 (0) 20 716 8345

Netherlands (toll free):
        0800 020 2597

New Zealand, Christchurch:
        +64 (0) 3 974 2596

New Zealand, Wellington:
        +64 (0) 4 909 4674

New Zealand, Auckland:
        +64 (0) 9 929 1825

New Zealand (toll free):
        0800 452 947

Nigeria, Lagos:
        +234 1 277 3944

Norway, Oslo:
        +47 21 00 48 15

Norway (toll free):
        800 56081

Oman (toll free):
        800 77265

Pakistan, Islamabad:
        +92 5181 08863

Panama, Panama City:
        +507 8 335 913

Panama (toll free):
        00800 223 1390

Peru, Lima:
        +51 (0) 1 700 9571

Philippines, Manila:
        +63 (0)2 395 3426

Philippines (toll free):
        1 800 111 013 99

Poland, Warsaw:
        +48 22 295 3570

Poland (toll free):
        00 800 121 4356

Portugal, Lisbon:
        +351 21 316 4093

Portugal (toll free):
        800 784 442

Qatar (freephone):
        00 800 100 491

Romania, Bucharest:
        +40 (0) 21 529 3992

Romania (toll free):
        0800 801 035

Russia, Moscow:
        +7 495 646 9181

Russia (toll free):
        8 800 500 9241

Saudi Arabia (toll free):
        800 844 6641

Saudi Arabia (toll free):
        800 850 0219

Serbia (toll free):
        0800 190 712

Singapore:
        +65 6654 9112

Singapore (toll free):
        800 616 3192

Slovakia, Bratislava:
        +421 (0)2 3321 5498

Slovakia (toll free):
        0800 002 002

Slovenia, Ljubljana:
        +386 1600 8695

Slovenia (toll free):
        0800 81193

South Africa, Johannesburg:
        +27 (0)11 589 8321

South Africa (toll free):
        0800 999 434

Spain, Madrid:
        +34 91 114 6653

Spain, Barcelona:
        +34 93 800 1946

Spain (toll free):
        900 828 035

Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka:
        +94 720 910 333

Sweden, Stockholm:
        +46 (0) 8 5065 3956

Sweden (toll free):
        0200 125 588

Switzerland, Geneva:
        +41 (0) 22 595 4795

Switzerland, Zurich:
        +41 (0) 44 580 7207

Switzerland (toll free):
        0800 740 360

Taiwan, Taipei:
        +886 (0) 2 2650 7329

Taiwan (toll free):
        0800 666 596

Thailand, Bangkok:
        +66 (0) 2104 0761

Thailand (toll free):
        001 800 6136 1473

Tunisia, Tunis:
        +216 31 378 101

Turkey, Istanbul:
        +90 212 375 50 49

Turkey (toll free):
        00800 4488 26642

Ukraine (toll free):
        0800 500 896

UAE (toll free):
        8000 3570 2662

UK (03):
        +44 (0)330 336 6002

UK (toll free):
        0800 358 6385

UK (national):
        0844 473 5010

UK (national):
        0845 545 0015

USA /Canada (toll free):
        1-866-398-2885

Uruguay (toll free):
        0004 019 0152

Venezuela, Caracas:
        +58 212 720 2164

Venezuela (toll free):
        0 800 162 7451

Vietnam, Hanoi:
        +84 24 4458 3312

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh:
        +84 28 4458 1322

Vietnam (toll free):
        1800 9226
















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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Tue Jan 22 17:38:33 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:38:33 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Attendance and Recording | NCSG Excom Meeting | 22
 January 2019 | 1400 UTC
Message-ID: <A6BC21FE-17C1-403D-A74C-FD0CF106D9EF@icann.org>

Dear All,

Please find attendance and recording of the NCSG ExCom meeting of January 22, 2019 at 1400 UTC.

Attendance: Stephanie Perrin, Robin gross, Raoul Plommer, Juan Manuel Rojas, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix

AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p82b8qnhae3/<https://participate.icann.org/p82b8qnhae3/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=c376daab852848cd63df8f796e83979618b412313e087957e9ceb1c406d42d43>

MP3: Attached

AC Chat: Attached

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777

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From PolicyCalendar at icann.org  Wed Jan 23 06:43:36 2019
From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:43:36 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] **REMINDER**Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting | 22
 January 2019 | 1400 UTC
Message-ID: <7b865ad834f346b5a063b59f98faa91a@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

Dear All,



**REMINDER**



Please find participation details for the Monthly NCSG Executive Committee Meeting on 22 January 2019 at 1400 UTC



Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/ncsg



Time Zones: https://tinyurl.com/y8mfgyob



Dial out request: please send an email to Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> off-list.



Audio dial-in details below:

                [https://cobranding-pgi.s3.amazonaws.com/1/Logo1.png]





You're invited.
You've been invited to a GlobalMeet? audio meeting.


Have the meeting call you.
Click the Connect Me link below. No need to dial-in.


Connect Me [go.conferencinghub.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.conferencinghub.com_2xdh7&d=DwMBAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=AK55rq5FVu3cfqsqV45DXp3PNsBul_OX6e9UHceGznc&s=9l2C2yBLrvDO8wSz7F1mh3YhvNgrrcB4AfOjR-HQzMQ&e=>





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Mobile:
        tel://16054755604,*,,9922790467#

Phone Only Controls :
        https://go.conferencinghub.com/2xdh7

Access Number:
        1-605-475-5604

Guest Passcode:
        992 279 0467

Additional Access:

USA:
        1-605-475-5604

USA:
        1-719-457-6209

Canada, Calgary:
        +1 403 407 5793

Canada, Montreal:
        +1 514 669 5928

Canada, Toronto:
        +1 647 426 9172

Canada, Vancouver:
        +1 604 222 7836

Argentina, Buenos Aires:
        +54 (0) 11 5172 6003

Argentina (toll free):
        0800 800 1223

Australia, Sydney:
        +61 (0) 2 8017 6064

Australia, Melbourne:
        +61 (0) 3 8687 0553

Australia, Brisbane:
        +61 (0) 7 3015 0535

Australia (toll free):
        1 800 804 786

Austria (toll free):
        0800 070 981

Bahrain, Manama:
        +973 1619 8739

Bahrain (toll free):
        800 04212

Belarus (toll free):
        8 820 0011 0341

Belgium, Brussels:
        +32 (0) 2 400 6928

Belgium (toll free):
        0800 39279

Bosnia and Herzegovina:
        +387 7031 1442

Brazil, Sao Paulo:
        +55 11 4935 7169

Brazil, Rio de Janeiro:
        +55 21 4560 0072

Brazil (toll free):
        0800 887 0233

Bulgaria, Sofia:
        +359 (0) 2 491 6045

Bulgaria (toll free):
        00800 111 4950

Cambodia, Phnom Penh:
        +855 23 965 723

Canada (toll free):
        1 855 950 3717

Chile, Santiago:
        +56 (0) 2 2666 0696

Chile (toll free):
        171 800 835 783

China (national):
        +400 613 8103

China, Beijing:
        +86 10 5667 0003

China, Shanghai:
        +86 21 2039 7081

Colombia, Bogota:
        +57 1 508 8137

Colombia (toll free):
        01 800 755 0102

Costa Rica (toll free):
        800 542 5328

Croatia (toll free):
        0800 805 940

Cyprus (toll free):
        800 97424

Czech Republic, Prague:
        +420 225 986 554

Czech Republic (toll free):
        800 701 532

Denmark, Copenhagen:
        +45 32 72 78 10

Denmark (toll free):
        80 70 35 86

Egypt (toll free):
        0800 000 0593

Estonia, Tallinn:
        +372 622 6551

Estonia (toll free):
        800 011 1589

Fiji (toll free):
        00800 3322

Finland, Helsinki:
        +358 (0) 9 2310 1677

Finland (toll free):
        0800 772 236

France, Paris:
        +33 (0) 1 70 37 16 56

France (toll free):
        0800 946 531

France (national):
        0811 655 100

France (national):
        0821 231 671

Georgia, Tbilisi:
        +995 32 2 050 778

Germany, Frankfurt:
        +49 (0) 69 2222 10612

Germany, Munich:
        +49 (0) 89 2030 31207

Germany (national):
        01801 003 899

Germany (toll free):
        0800 588 9170

Greece, Athens:
        +30 211 181 3824

Greece (toll free):
        00800 128 913

Hong Kong:
        +852 3018 9111

Hong Kong (toll free):
        800 901 787

Hungary, Budapest:
        +36 1408 8953

Hungary (toll free):
        068 001 9673

Iceland (toll free):
        800 9847

India, Delhi:
        +91 11 6310 0268

India, Mumbai:
        +91 22 6310 0298

India, Chennai:
        +91 44 6310 0234

India, Bangalore:
        +91 80 6760 8755

India (toll free):
        1800 3010 1582

Indonesia, Jakarta:
        +62 21 2188 9084

Indonesia (toll free):
        007 803 321 8927

Ireland, Dublin:
        +353 (0) 1 526 9421

Ireland (national):
        0818 270 271

Ireland (toll free):
        1800 937 649

Ireland (national):
        1890 907 630

Israel, Tel Aviv:
        +972 (0)3 721 7943

Israel (toll free):
        1809 213 168

Italy, Milan:
        +39 02 3600 8006

Italy, Rome:
        +39 06 8750 0676

Italy (toll free):
        800 146 094

Japan, Tokyo:
        +81 3 4560 1270

Japan, Osaka:
        +81 6 4560 2410

Japan (toll free):
        0120 305 211

Japan (mobile):
        0120 632 611

Japan (national):
        0570 085 744

Jordan (toll free):
        0800 22172

Kazakhstan (toll free):
        8800 333 7554

Kenya, Nairobi:
        +254 (0)207 643 581

South Korea, Seoul:
        +82 (0) 2 6007 0079

South Korea (toll free):
        00798 6136 1454

Kuwait (national):
        +965 2206 3002

Latvia, Riga:
        +371 6601 3627

Latvia (toll free):
        8000 4418

Lithuania, Vilnius:
        +370 5205 5468

Lithuania (toll free):
        8800 31449

Luxembourg:
        +352 2088 1749

Luxembourg (toll free):
        800 28433

Macau (national):
        +853 6262 1676

Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur:
        +60 (0) 3 7724 8010

Malaysia (toll free):
        1 800 816 152

Mexico, Guadalajara:
        +52 33 4162 4504

Mexico, Mexico City:
        +52 55 8421 0326

Mexico, Monterrey:
        +52 81 4162 5648

Mexico (toll free):
        01 800 733 4102

Morocco, Casablanca:
        +212 (0) 520 48 0022

Morocco (toll free):
        0800 091 296

Netherlands, Amsterdam:
        +31 (0) 20 716 8345

Netherlands (toll free):
        0800 020 2597

New Zealand, Christchurch:
        +64 (0) 3 974 2596

New Zealand, Wellington:
        +64 (0) 4 909 4674

New Zealand, Auckland:
        +64 (0) 9 929 1825

New Zealand (toll free):
        0800 452 947

Nigeria, Lagos:
        +234 1 277 3944

Norway, Oslo:
        +47 21 00 48 15

Norway (toll free):
        800 56081

Oman (toll free):
        800 77265

Pakistan, Islamabad:
        +92 5181 08863

Panama, Panama City:
        +507 8 335 913

Panama (toll free):
        00800 223 1390

Peru, Lima:
        +51 (0) 1 700 9571

Philippines, Manila:
        +63 (0)2 395 3426

Philippines (toll free):
        1 800 111 013 99

Poland, Warsaw:
        +48 22 295 3570

Poland (toll free):
        00 800 121 4356

Portugal, Lisbon:
        +351 21 316 4093

Portugal (toll free):
        800 784 442

Qatar (freephone):
        00 800 100 491

Romania, Bucharest:
        +40 (0) 21 529 3992

Romania (toll free):
        0800 801 035

Russia, Moscow:
        +7 495 646 9181

Russia (toll free):
        8 800 500 9241

Saudi Arabia (toll free):
        800 844 6641

Saudi Arabia (toll free):
        800 850 0219

Serbia (toll free):
        0800 190 712

Singapore:
        +65 6654 9112

Singapore (toll free):
        800 616 3192

Slovakia, Bratislava:
        +421 (0)2 3321 5498

Slovakia (toll free):
        0800 002 002

Slovenia, Ljubljana:
        +386 1600 8695

Slovenia (toll free):
        0800 81193

South Africa, Johannesburg:
        +27 (0)11 589 8321

South Africa (toll free):
        0800 999 434

Spain, Madrid:
        +34 91 114 6653

Spain, Barcelona:
        +34 93 800 1946

Spain (toll free):
        900 828 035

Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka:
        +94 720 910 333

Sweden, Stockholm:
        +46 (0) 8 5065 3956

Sweden (toll free):
        0200 125 588

Switzerland, Geneva:
        +41 (0) 22 595 4795

Switzerland, Zurich:
        +41 (0) 44 580 7207

Switzerland (toll free):
        0800 740 360

Taiwan, Taipei:
        +886 (0) 2 2650 7329

Taiwan (toll free):
        0800 666 596

Thailand, Bangkok:
        +66 (0) 2104 0761

Thailand (toll free):
        001 800 6136 1473

Tunisia, Tunis:
        +216 31 378 101

Turkey, Istanbul:
        +90 212 375 50 49

Turkey (toll free):
        00800 4488 26642

Ukraine (toll free):
        0800 500 896

UAE (toll free):
        8000 3570 2662

UK (03):
        +44 (0)330 336 6002

UK (toll free):
        0800 358 6385

UK (national):
        0844 473 5010

UK (national):
        0845 545 0015

USA /Canada (toll free):
        1-866-398-2885

Uruguay (toll free):
        0004 019 0152

Venezuela, Caracas:
        +58 212 720 2164

Venezuela (toll free):
        0 800 162 7451

Vietnam, Hanoi:
        +84 24 4458 3312

Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh:
        +84 28 4458 1322

Vietnam (toll free):
        1800 9226
















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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Thu Jan 24 15:57:52 2019
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:57:52 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] REMINDER: ABR Submission Deadline - FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019
Message-ID: <3FF46F54-A40C-4CEC-B734-31427E5CAEBC@icann.org>

Dear All,

This is a gentle reminder that the deadline for ABR submission is tomorrow FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019.

Please do not hesitate to send me the documents for final review and submission.

Thank you very much.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777

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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Thu Jan 24 17:20:11 2019
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:20:11 -0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCUC-EC] REMINDER: ABR Submission Deadline - FRIDAY
 25 JANUARY 2019
In-Reply-To: <3FF46F54-A40C-4CEC-B734-31427E5CAEBC@icann.org>
References: <3FF46F54-A40C-4CEC-B734-31427E5CAEBC@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV1hQRFrwJbLNdgHzpoDiSZX0V4O7ziEZs0px=UE1Ahv0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Maryam,

Our ABRs are here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmwkBG4hY_fMmMN7gmaMwplWOy_AWa0pd9RLbthYZ9E/edit

The first two are kinda ready, but I need to take a few min to do some
proper reviewing. Other than that Im trying to come up with the third one
with Lou and will let you know.

Best,
Bruna

Em qui, 24 de jan de 2019 ?s 11:57, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
escreveu:

> Dear All,
>
>
>
> This is a gentle reminder that the deadline for ABR submission is *tomorrow
> FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019**.*
>
>
>
> Please do not hesitate to send me the documents for final review and
> submission.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>
>
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*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Thu Jan 24 17:24:29 2019
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:24:29 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCUC-EC] REMINDER: ABR Submission Deadline - FRIDAY
 25 JANUARY 2019
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References: <3FF46F54-A40C-4CEC-B734-31427E5CAEBC@icann.org>
 <CADAEEV1hQRFrwJbLNdgHzpoDiSZX0V4O7ziEZs0px=UE1Ahv0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <158ad279-2a34-9fc2-b75d-9be9831145ac@mail.utoronto.ca>

ours I think are ready?  I don't really feel like writing any more, and nobody is coming up with anything.  Please let me know if you need me to do anything more....

Cheers Stephanie

On 2019-01-24 10:20, Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC wrote:
Hey Maryam,

Our ABRs are here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmwkBG4hY_fMmMN7gmaMwplWOy_AWa0pd9RLbthYZ9E/edit

The first two are kinda ready, but I need to take a few min to do some proper reviewing. Other than that Im trying to come up with the third one with Lou and will let you know.

Best,
Bruna

Em qui, 24 de jan de 2019 ?s 11:57, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org<mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>> escreveu:
Dear All,

This is a gentle reminder that the deadline for ABR submission is tomorrow FRIDAY 25 JANUARY 2019.

Please do not hesitate to send me the documents for final review and submission.

Thank you very much.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777

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Bruna Martins dos Santos

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
@boomartins



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