From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 00:48:41 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 17:48:41 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Follow up from Montreal discussion on our CRM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, So I had the call with Josh last week. Here's what came out of it: -It is possible to export all the information in our database as a CSV file; doing the whole thing at once may crash the server by using too many resources however, but it may be done in smaller chunks. -Because of our server architecture, the php update cannot be done in instantiated mode and must be done on live servers directly. That means it may end up disrupting our back end for a few hours, 2 to 3 if everything goes fine. The PHP update is required in order to update to the latest version of CIVI. -The hosting fee we were charged last year was actually too low by mistake (i.e. Wapix's mistake, but our benefit!). We are not hosted on their equipment, but we are nonetheless charged that fee to represent the work required to set up the remote access. We could decide to be hosted directly with them, but we would save only a few dollars a month at most, given that we would need to pay an actual hosting fee in place of an access fee, in addition to a few other items. -We can have the discounted dev blocks at the lower price point, but they need to be paid in whole before Dec 31st, and cannot be spread out on a monthly basis into 2020. -They removed the mass email option from our package since we were paying for it but never used it. And given the amount of members we have, we will never use it anyway. And that pretty much sums it up. As a recap of the current proposal which is on the table: 468/month, including 1 ticket (30 min of dev time) per month and 3 hours of dev time for the year. This price is inclusive of the hosting fee. One or two dev blocks for 10 or 20 hours of dev time for the year, at a price of 950/block. Comments and suggestions welcome. This will be discussed during our next EC meeting so that the required decisions can be taken before the end of the year and the expiration of our current SLA. Have a nice evening, On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 10:41 PM Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > For those interested, I'll be talking to Josh from 1400 to 1500 EST on > Monday. > > I'll give the call details to anyone interested in a separate email. > > Have a nice evening, > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:11 AM Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> As a follow up on our discussion on CIVI and Wapix during the EC meeting: >> >> I have done a bit of asking around and research regarding web development >> costs generally and it seems that Wapix prices are still in what can be >> considered "market" >> >> Now there are some costs which are not clear and some numbers that did >> not match, as we discussed. I still have to clarify that with Josh. But: >> >> . 95$/hr for web development for a US/Canada based company is rather >> standard; someone who begins would charge less, with the downside of added >> risk. >> >> . while 300 to 500$/month for "support and maintenance" is more on the >> high side, it remains that CIVI hosting is not just like any other type of >> backend. It requires someone who knows what theyre doing (i.e. who knows >> how to handle that CRM). Still, I find their 99$ price point on hosting a >> bit high. I'll see what can be done with that. >> >> . I could find some public price points for CIVI monthly packages, in the >> low 100's, but they did not include any dev time nor technical support, nor >> backups, not virtual server for testing, nor ddos protection, etc. etc. >> >> . Finally, we are looking at at least a few if not several thousands of >> dollars in "discovery" fees for onboarding a new company or individual. We >> were to pick an individual consultant, it might be more of a few rather >> than several, but think about it this way: onboarding is at least 20 hours >> of work, and most likely more than that, so minimally 2000$ - more likely >> towards or above 3k. >> >> . And maybe most importantly, subject to verification as Steph required, >> we have a 9000$/year allocation by ICANN. If we don't use that money on >> these services, it's just not spent, we don't get to bank it or use it on >> travel support... Given that we have a good relationship with Wapix >> already, I feel it would be a better investment of these monies to continue >> with them. >> >> >> That being said, our current system is I would say barely usable, and I >> heard all of you express dissatisfaction with it. I also share this feeling. >> >> Now the thing is, even if Wapix ended up being slightly above market >> price, I would not be in favour of spending my time working on switching >> right away, for the following reasons: >> >> I understand that a lot of things Wapix does are things we can do "on our >> own," but I don't think that seeing things this way is sustainable. We >> cannot rely on the fact that we would always have someone ready *and* able >> to take care of these things (and as a matter of fact, we have no one >> now). >> >> In that sense, the only longer-term sustainable solution is to have >> someone do it for us. Let's say we pick an individual consultant who begins >> and will do it for cheap. Great, we just saved a few 1000's over a year. >> Then, one year later, said person, because theyre skilled, finds a higher >> paying job in a company. Now we've lost our consultant, must look again, >> pay discovery fees again, etc. Do note that we faced a similar situation >> with Wapix, were our main POC left the company and left us in a limbo for >> several weeks. However we were spared new discovery fees once we got >> someone assign to us. >> >> In addition, if we only pay the monthly fee and don't buy any development >> time now, we are paying for a system we are not satisfied with, while we >> have the opportunity to spend to try and make it better. >> >> So subject to discussion with Josh for the points that need >> clarification, I would suggest that we go with the cheaper option which >> includes less monthly tickets and less development time included, but that >> we also buy more time. How much, I don't know; at least one 10 hour block. >> >> Given that Maryam is the prime user of the system right now, I would take >> it upon myself to work with her to make sure that every dev hour is spent >> on something that makes her life more easy (and incidentally, ours). We >> used the previous dev time to fix the really outstanding issues, get >> ourselves a minimally workable front end, and to cover up for emergency >> issues that arose with the elections. Now I think we can try to capitalize >> on that and make some further progress. >> >> And as an additional note, Wapix SLA is rather open; we need one month's >> notice to terminate. So if any of you is willing to put the time and effort >> required to come up with a workable and financially advantageous >> switch-over plan, eventually asking for an ABR when the time comes and if >> we need it, or cutting some deal with NPOC and NCUC for more money as we've >> done in the past, it will always be time to use up our dev time and do the >> switch. You are free and welcome to start working on that right away, I >> have absolutely no problem with that, on the contrary. But for now, I would >> rather use the time I can dedicate to that task and the money we have >> available, in order to improve the systems we have rather than coming up >> with another plan. >> >> And to end, some numbers: 400/month*12 is 4800. That leaves us up to 30 >> hours of dev time we could buy before topping our allocation. Do note that >> I'm not in favor of topping it, I'm just giving these out so we know what >> ballpark we're playing in. >> >> The final decision belongs to the EC collectively so I'm looking to hear >> from you all on that. I will schedule a call with Josh early next week to >> discuss our questions (those we discussed in Montreal) and anything else, >> and will share the details on list so you can all join. >> >> CCed techteam list for information purposes. >> >> Have a nice day, >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Fri Dec 6 20:00:20 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 18:00:20 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Doodle poll Message-ID: Dear all, To determine a date and time for an EC meeting next week, please complete the doodle poll below. https://doodle.com/poll/8ghurn9supe88gzb ? Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Dec 9 17:19:57 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 15:19:57 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Need to have an NCSG-EC meeting Message-ID: <48a7f1dc-425b-55e4-d10d-e584f4bac4ef@mail.utoronto.ca> hi folks, We need to have a meeting. Raphael and I are the only ones who have commented on the recent membership applications. There are not many, please get in there and comment so that we can respond to them prior to Xmas. I think Maryam has sent out a doodle poll for the meeting. Life will get busy before Xmas.... cheers Steph Draft Agenda (comments welcome) 1. Wapix account 2. Review of NCSG Chair Job description [I will send the draft to you for comments/input as soon as I get it finished] 3. Closing of HR complaints 4. Membership review 5. Planning for NCH intersessional in KL 6. AOB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Mon Dec 9 20:48:17 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:48:17 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Save the date: NCSG EC meeting Message-ID: <13ADFCF2-C5F2-4F56-9ACF-949FF34016BE@icann.org> Dear all, Please save the date for the next NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 -15:00 UTC. Calendar invite to follow shortly. Draft Agenda (comments welcome) 1. Wapix account 2. Review of NCSG Chair Job description [Stephanie will send the draft to you for comments/input as soon as she gets it finished] 3. Closing of HR complaints 4. Membership review 5. Planning for NCH intersessional in KL 6. AOB ? Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Dec 9 21:24:40 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 19:24:40 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Save the date: NCSG EC meeting In-Reply-To: <13ADFCF2-C5F2-4F56-9ACF-949FF34016BE@icann.org> References: <13ADFCF2-C5F2-4F56-9ACF-949FF34016BE@icann.org> Message-ID: <64b6efda-11e8-26c8-6a91-58b97e12d55a@mail.utoronto.ca> thanks so much for getting this organized Maryam! Looking forward to talking to you folks. cheers Steph On 2019-12-09 13:48, Maryam Bakoshi via NCSG-EC wrote: Dear all, Please save the date for the next NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 -15:00 UTC. Calendar invite to follow shortly. Draft Agenda (comments welcome) 1. Wapix account 2. Review of NCSG Chair Job description [Stephanie will send the draft to you for comments/input as soon as she gets it finished] 3. Closing of HR complaints 4. Membership review 5. Planning for NCH intersessional in KL 6. AOB ? Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777? _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Tue Dec 10 19:06:26 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:06:26 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Message-ID: Dear all, Please find participation details for the NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Other times: https://tinyurl.com/ufaleo4 Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/447977214?pwd=VDE3SCs4VDlWMjFjQnU0T2o0S1dXZz09 Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 One tap mobile +442034815237,,447977214# United Kingdom +442039663809,,447977214# United Kingdom Dial by your location +44 203 481 5237 United Kingdom +44 203 966 3809 United Kingdom +44 131 460 1196 United Kingdom +44 203 051 2874 United Kingdom 0 800 031 5717 United Kingdom Toll-free +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) 877 853 5247 US Toll-free 888 788 0099 US Toll-free +213 98 24 02 675 Algeria +54 112 040 0447 Argentina +54 341 512 2188 Argentina +54 343 414 5986 Argentina 822 345 9889 Argentina Toll-free +61 2 8015 6011 Australia +61 8 7150 1149 Australia 1800 893 423 Australia Toll-free +43 670 309 0165 Austria +43 72 011 5988 Austria 0 800 802 588 Austria Toll-free 1800 389 0808 Bahamas Toll-free +973 1619 7601 Bahrain +973 1619 8488 Bahrain 800 198 33 Bahrain Toll-free 0004 054 189 Uruguay Toll-free 800 120 1235 Uzbekistan Toll-free 0 800 100 5564 Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) Toll-free +263 864 404 1086 Zimbabwe +84 28 4458 2373 Viet Nam 0 800 501 567 Ukraine Toll-free 800 035 704 239 United Arab Emirates Toll-free 800 035 704 555 United Arab Emirates Toll-free +256 206 300 097 Uganda +90 216 900 1866 Turkey +90 216 900 2606 Turkey 811 213 0011 Turkey Toll-free +216 31 397 748 Tunisia +1 868 224 5838 Trinidad and Tobago +66 2018 2486 Thailand +66 60 003 5790 Thailand 1 800 012 275 Thailand Toll-free +886 (2) 7741 7473 Taiwan 08 0909 9864 Taiwan Toll-free +41 22 518 89 78 Switzerland +41 31 528 09 88 Switzerland +41 43 210 70 42 Switzerland 0 800 002 622 Switzerland Toll-free +46 8 4468 2488 Sweden +46 850 539 728 Sweden 0 20 889 860 Sweden Toll-free +94 7 2091 0374 Sri Lanka +34 84 368 5025 Spain +34 917 873 431 Spain 900 839 088 Spain Toll-free +82 2 6022 2322 Korea, Republic of +82 2 6105 4111 Korea, Republic of 0 808 220 250 Korea, Republic of Toll-free +27 87 550 3946 South Africa +27 87 550 7717 South Africa +27 87 551 7702 South Africa 0 800 008 728 South Africa Toll-free 0 800 064 584 South Africa Toll-free +386 1600 3102 Slovenia +386 1888 8788 Slovenia 0 80 488 840 Slovenia Toll-free +421 233 056 888 Slovakia +421 233 418 515 Slovakia 0 800 005 424 Slovakia Toll-free 0 800 500 702 Serbia Toll-free +65 3158 7288 Singapore +65 3165 1065 Singapore 800 852 6054 Singapore Toll-free 800 811 0528 Saudi Arabia Toll-free 800 850 0304 Saudi Arabia Toll-free +7 495 283 9788 Russian Federation +7 812 426 8988 Russian Federation 800 100 6938 Russian Federation Toll-free 00 800 100363 Qatar Toll-free +40 31 630 1088 Romania +40 37 170 0418 Romania 0 800 672 631 Romania Toll-free +1 787 945 1488 Puerto Rico +1 787 966 7727 Puerto Rico 800 239 1922 Puerto Rico Toll-free +351 308 804 188 Portugal +351 308 810 988 Portugal 800 180 888 Portugal Toll-free +48 22 307 3488 Poland +48 22 398 7356 Poland 00 800 321 1464 Poland Toll-free +63 92 3099 0478 Philippines 1800 1110 2219 Philippines Toll-free +51 1 707 5788 Peru +51 1 730 6777 Peru 0 800 78743 Peru Toll-free 0098 0011 0288 Paraguay Toll-free +507 833 9588 Panama 800 0558 Panama Toll-free +92 21 3879 9843 Pakistan 800 74201 Oman Toll-free +47 2396 0588 Norway +47 7349 4877 Norway 800 248 88 Norway Toll-free +234 1227 8806 Nigeria 708 060 1822 Nigeria Toll-free 1800 220 2039 Nicaragua Toll-free (Landline) 1800 220 2436 Nicaragua Toll-free (Mobile) +64 4 886 0026 New Zealand +64 9 884 6780 New Zealand 0 800 002 260 New Zealand Toll-free +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands 0 800 220 0040 Netherlands Toll-free +52 229 910 0061 Mexico +52 554 161 4288 Mexico 800 733 4118 Mexico Toll-free +356 2776 1777 Malta +356 2778 1288 Malta 800 62714 Malta Toll-free +60 3 3099 2229 Malaysia +60 3 9212 1727 Malaysia 1 800 818 425 Malaysia Toll-free 0 800 904 59 North Macedonia Toll-free +853 6262 1604 Macau, China 0 800 191 Macau, China Toll-free +352 2786 1188 Luxembourg +352 2786 4277 Luxembourg 800 810 88 Luxembourg Toll-free +370 3799 9260 Lithuania +370 5214 1488 Lithuania 8 800 303 19 Lithuania Toll-free +371 6303 1808 Latvia +371 6303 1888 Latvia 8000 0281 Latvia Toll-free +965 2206 9157 Kuwait 800 733 310 Kenya Toll-free +7 727 312 2408 Kazakhstan 800 222 03 Jordan Toll-free +81 3 4578 1488 Japan +81 524 564 439 Japan 0 800 100 5040 Japan Toll-free +1 876 633 1687 Jamaica 800 491 6523 Jamaica Toll-free +39 020 066 7245 Italy +39 069 480 6488 Italy 800 596 788 Italy Toll-free +972 3 978 6688 Israel +972 55 330 1762 Israel 1801 227 228 Israel Toll-free +353 1 513 3247 Ireland +353 1 653 3895 Ireland +353 6 163 9031 Ireland 1800 817 388 Ireland Toll-free +62 21 2789 9657 Indonesia +62 21 3950 1721 Indonesia +62 215 086 1500 Indonesia +91 224 879 8012 India +91 22 62 192 563 India +91 22 71 279 525 India +91 80 71 279 440 India +91 22 48 798 004 India 000 800 001 4002 India Toll-free 000 800 050 5050 India Toll-free 0080 07 473 Iceland Toll-free +36 1 408 8456 Hungary +36 1 701 0488 Hungary 800 881 88 Hungary Toll-free +852 5808 6088 Hong Kong, China 800 906 780 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 931 189 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 2791 9494 Honduras Toll-free 1800 3000 161 Guatemala Toll-free +30 211 198 4488 Greece +30 231 118 0599 Greece 800 848 1188 Greece Toll-free 30 708 4676 Ghana Toll-free +49 30 3080 6188 Germany +49 30 5679 5800 Germany +49 69 7104 9922 Germany 0 800 724 3138 Germany Toll-free +995 3224 73988 Georgia +995 7067 77954 Georgia +33 1 7037 2246 France +33 1 7037 9729 France +33 7 5678 4048 France 0 805 082 588 France Toll-free +358 3 4109 2129 Finland +358 9 4245 1488 Finland 0 800 102 188 Finland Toll-free 0080 02 592 Fiji Toll-free +372 660 1699 Estonia +372 880 1188 Estonia +503 2113 9088 El Salvador +503 2136 6444 El Salvador 0800 000 9608 Egypt Toll-free 1800 000 785 Ecuador Toll-free +1 829 947 9220 Dominican Republic +1 829 956 2188 Dominican Republic 800 751 9718 Dominican Republic Toll-free +45 32 71 31 57 Denmark +45 89 88 37 88 Denmark 80 82 02 88 Denmark Toll-free +420 2 2888 2388 Czechia +420 5 3889 0161 Czechia 828 848 888 Czechia Toll-free +357 2 200 0888 Cyprus +357 2 505 4777 Cyprus 800 773 38 Cyprus Toll-free +385 1300 0988 Croatia +385 1777 6333 Croatia 0 800 200 588 Croatia Toll-free +506 4000 3843 Costa Rica +57 1 508 7702 Colombia +57 2 620 7388 Colombia 1 800 518 4301 Colombia Toll-free +86 10 53876330 China +86 10 87833177 China 400 616 8835 China Toll-free 400 669 9381 China Toll-free +56 23 210 9066 Chile +56 41 256 0288 Chile 800 914 125 Chile Toll-free +1 345 769 1930 Cayman Islands +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free 1800 201 503 Cambodia Toll-free +359 2 492 5688 Bulgaria +359 3 257 1633 Bulgaria 00 800 111 3251 Bulgaria Toll-free +55 11 4680 6788 Brazil +55 21 3958 7888 Brazil 0 800 878 3108 Brazil Toll-free 0 800 828 50 Bosnia and Herzegovina Toll-free 800 100 560 Bolivia (Plurinational State of) Toll-free 866 237 6875 Bermuda Toll-free +32 2 290 9360 Belgium +32 2 588 4188 Belgium 0 800 267 88 Belgium Toll-free Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adUojhAPmk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 11830 bytes Desc: not available URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Fri Dec 13 13:58:13 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:58:13 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] **REMINDER**NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Message-ID: <3095df7ffd9c4bf2a279959ae6a2ad46@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> Dear all, **REMINDER** Please find participation details for the NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Other times: https://tinyurl.com/ufaleo4 Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/447977214?pwd=VDE3SCs4VDlWMjFjQnU0T2o0S1dXZz09 Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 One tap mobile +442034815237,,447977214# United Kingdom +442039663809,,447977214# United Kingdom Dial by your location +44 203 481 5237 United Kingdom +44 203 966 3809 United Kingdom +44 131 460 1196 United Kingdom +44 203 051 2874 United Kingdom 0 800 031 5717 United Kingdom Toll-free +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) 877 853 5247 US Toll-free 888 788 0099 US Toll-free +213 98 24 02 675 Algeria +54 112 040 0447 Argentina +54 341 512 2188 Argentina +54 343 414 5986 Argentina 822 345 9889 Argentina Toll-free +61 2 8015 6011 Australia +61 8 7150 1149 Australia 1800 893 423 Australia Toll-free +43 670 309 0165 Austria +43 72 011 5988 Austria 0 800 802 588 Austria Toll-free 1800 389 0808 Bahamas Toll-free +973 1619 7601 Bahrain +973 1619 8488 Bahrain 800 198 33 Bahrain Toll-free 0004 054 189 Uruguay Toll-free 800 120 1235 Uzbekistan Toll-free 0 800 100 5564 Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) Toll-free +263 864 404 1086 Zimbabwe +84 28 4458 2373 Viet Nam 0 800 501 567 Ukraine Toll-free 800 035 704 239 United Arab Emirates Toll-free 800 035 704 555 United Arab Emirates Toll-free +256 206 300 097 Uganda +90 216 900 1866 Turkey +90 216 900 2606 Turkey 811 213 0011 Turkey Toll-free +216 31 397 748 Tunisia +1 868 224 5838 Trinidad and Tobago +66 2018 2486 Thailand +66 60 003 5790 Thailand 1 800 012 275 Thailand Toll-free +886 (2) 7741 7473 Taiwan 08 0909 9864 Taiwan Toll-free +41 22 518 89 78 Switzerland +41 31 528 09 88 Switzerland +41 43 210 70 42 Switzerland 0 800 002 622 Switzerland Toll-free +46 8 4468 2488 Sweden +46 850 539 728 Sweden 0 20 889 860 Sweden Toll-free +94 7 2091 0374 Sri Lanka +34 84 368 5025 Spain +34 917 873 431 Spain 900 839 088 Spain Toll-free +82 2 6022 2322 Korea, Republic of +82 2 6105 4111 Korea, Republic of 0 808 220 250 Korea, Republic of Toll-free +27 87 550 3946 South Africa +27 87 550 7717 South Africa +27 87 551 7702 South Africa 0 800 008 728 South Africa Toll-free 0 800 064 584 South Africa Toll-free +386 1600 3102 Slovenia +386 1888 8788 Slovenia 0 80 488 840 Slovenia Toll-free +421 233 056 888 Slovakia +421 233 418 515 Slovakia 0 800 005 424 Slovakia Toll-free 0 800 500 702 Serbia Toll-free +65 3158 7288 Singapore +65 3165 1065 Singapore 800 852 6054 Singapore Toll-free 800 811 0528 Saudi Arabia Toll-free 800 850 0304 Saudi Arabia Toll-free +7 495 283 9788 Russian Federation +7 812 426 8988 Russian Federation 800 100 6938 Russian Federation Toll-free 00 800 100363 Qatar Toll-free +40 31 630 1088 Romania +40 37 170 0418 Romania 0 800 672 631 Romania Toll-free +1 787 945 1488 Puerto Rico +1 787 966 7727 Puerto Rico 800 239 1922 Puerto Rico Toll-free +351 308 804 188 Portugal +351 308 810 988 Portugal 800 180 888 Portugal Toll-free +48 22 307 3488 Poland +48 22 398 7356 Poland 00 800 321 1464 Poland Toll-free +63 92 3099 0478 Philippines 1800 1110 2219 Philippines Toll-free +51 1 707 5788 Peru +51 1 730 6777 Peru 0 800 78743 Peru Toll-free 0098 0011 0288 Paraguay Toll-free +507 833 9588 Panama 800 0558 Panama Toll-free +92 21 3879 9843 Pakistan 800 74201 Oman Toll-free +47 2396 0588 Norway +47 7349 4877 Norway 800 248 88 Norway Toll-free +234 1227 8806 Nigeria 708 060 1822 Nigeria Toll-free 1800 220 2039 Nicaragua Toll-free (Landline) 1800 220 2436 Nicaragua Toll-free (Mobile) +64 4 886 0026 New Zealand +64 9 884 6780 New Zealand 0 800 002 260 New Zealand Toll-free +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands 0 800 220 0040 Netherlands Toll-free +52 229 910 0061 Mexico +52 554 161 4288 Mexico 800 733 4118 Mexico Toll-free +356 2776 1777 Malta +356 2778 1288 Malta 800 62714 Malta Toll-free +60 3 3099 2229 Malaysia +60 3 9212 1727 Malaysia 1 800 818 425 Malaysia Toll-free 0 800 904 59 North Macedonia Toll-free +853 6262 1604 Macau, China 0 800 191 Macau, China Toll-free +352 2786 1188 Luxembourg +352 2786 4277 Luxembourg 800 810 88 Luxembourg Toll-free +370 3799 9260 Lithuania +370 5214 1488 Lithuania 8 800 303 19 Lithuania Toll-free +371 6303 1808 Latvia +371 6303 1888 Latvia 8000 0281 Latvia Toll-free +965 2206 9157 Kuwait 800 733 310 Kenya Toll-free +7 727 312 2408 Kazakhstan 800 222 03 Jordan Toll-free +81 3 4578 1488 Japan +81 524 564 439 Japan 0 800 100 5040 Japan Toll-free +1 876 633 1687 Jamaica 800 491 6523 Jamaica Toll-free +39 020 066 7245 Italy +39 069 480 6488 Italy 800 596 788 Italy Toll-free +972 3 978 6688 Israel +972 55 330 1762 Israel 1801 227 228 Israel Toll-free +353 1 513 3247 Ireland +353 1 653 3895 Ireland +353 6 163 9031 Ireland 1800 817 388 Ireland Toll-free +62 21 2789 9657 Indonesia +62 21 3950 1721 Indonesia +62 215 086 1500 Indonesia +91 224 879 8012 India +91 22 62 192 563 India +91 22 71 279 525 India +91 80 71 279 440 India +91 22 48 798 004 India 000 800 001 4002 India Toll-free 000 800 050 5050 India Toll-free 0080 07 473 Iceland Toll-free +36 1 408 8456 Hungary +36 1 701 0488 Hungary 800 881 88 Hungary Toll-free +852 5808 6088 Hong Kong, China 800 906 780 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 931 189 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 2791 9494 Honduras Toll-free 1800 3000 161 Guatemala Toll-free +30 211 198 4488 Greece +30 231 118 0599 Greece 800 848 1188 Greece Toll-free 30 708 4676 Ghana Toll-free +49 30 3080 6188 Germany +49 30 5679 5800 Germany +49 69 7104 9922 Germany 0 800 724 3138 Germany Toll-free +995 3224 73988 Georgia +995 7067 77954 Georgia +33 1 7037 2246 France +33 1 7037 9729 France +33 7 5678 4048 France 0 805 082 588 France Toll-free +358 3 4109 2129 Finland +358 9 4245 1488 Finland 0 800 102 188 Finland Toll-free 0080 02 592 Fiji Toll-free +372 660 1699 Estonia +372 880 1188 Estonia +503 2113 9088 El Salvador +503 2136 6444 El Salvador 0800 000 9608 Egypt Toll-free 1800 000 785 Ecuador Toll-free +1 829 947 9220 Dominican Republic +1 829 956 2188 Dominican Republic 800 751 9718 Dominican Republic Toll-free +45 32 71 31 57 Denmark +45 89 88 37 88 Denmark 80 82 02 88 Denmark Toll-free +420 2 2888 2388 Czechia +420 5 3889 0161 Czechia 828 848 888 Czechia Toll-free +357 2 200 0888 Cyprus +357 2 505 4777 Cyprus 800 773 38 Cyprus Toll-free +385 1300 0988 Croatia +385 1777 6333 Croatia 0 800 200 588 Croatia Toll-free +506 4000 3843 Costa Rica +57 1 508 7702 Colombia +57 2 620 7388 Colombia 1 800 518 4301 Colombia Toll-free +86 10 53876330 China +86 10 87833177 China 400 616 8835 China Toll-free 400 669 9381 China Toll-free +56 23 210 9066 Chile +56 41 256 0288 Chile 800 914 125 Chile Toll-free +1 345 769 1930 Cayman Islands +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free 1800 201 503 Cambodia Toll-free +359 2 492 5688 Bulgaria +359 3 257 1633 Bulgaria 00 800 111 3251 Bulgaria Toll-free +55 11 4680 6788 Brazil +55 21 3958 7888 Brazil 0 800 878 3108 Brazil Toll-free 0 800 828 50 Bosnia and Herzegovina Toll-free 800 100 560 Bolivia (Plurinational State of) Toll-free 866 237 6875 Bermuda Toll-free +32 2 290 9360 Belgium +32 2 588 4188 Belgium 0 800 267 88 Belgium Toll-free Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adUojhAPmk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 10249 bytes Desc: not available URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Fri Dec 13 15:46:20 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 13:46:20 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] **REMINDER**NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Message-ID: <3ae8c304e2a243b7aa3ae18c155c609c@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> Dear all, **REMINDER** Please find participation details for the NCSG EC meeting on Friday 13 December 2019 at 14:00 UTC Other times: https://tinyurl.com/ufaleo4 Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/447977214?pwd=VDE3SCs4VDlWMjFjQnU0T2o0S1dXZz09 Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 One tap mobile +442034815237,,447977214# United Kingdom +442039663809,,447977214# United Kingdom Dial by your location +44 203 481 5237 United Kingdom +44 203 966 3809 United Kingdom +44 131 460 1196 United Kingdom +44 203 051 2874 United Kingdom 0 800 031 5717 United Kingdom Toll-free +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) 877 853 5247 US Toll-free 888 788 0099 US Toll-free +213 98 24 02 675 Algeria +54 112 040 0447 Argentina +54 341 512 2188 Argentina +54 343 414 5986 Argentina 822 345 9889 Argentina Toll-free +61 2 8015 6011 Australia +61 8 7150 1149 Australia 1800 893 423 Australia Toll-free +43 670 309 0165 Austria +43 72 011 5988 Austria 0 800 802 588 Austria Toll-free 1800 389 0808 Bahamas Toll-free +973 1619 7601 Bahrain +973 1619 8488 Bahrain 800 198 33 Bahrain Toll-free 0004 054 189 Uruguay Toll-free 800 120 1235 Uzbekistan Toll-free 0 800 100 5564 Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) Toll-free +263 864 404 1086 Zimbabwe +84 28 4458 2373 Viet Nam 0 800 501 567 Ukraine Toll-free 800 035 704 239 United Arab Emirates Toll-free 800 035 704 555 United Arab Emirates Toll-free +256 206 300 097 Uganda +90 216 900 1866 Turkey +90 216 900 2606 Turkey 811 213 0011 Turkey Toll-free +216 31 397 748 Tunisia +1 868 224 5838 Trinidad and Tobago +66 2018 2486 Thailand +66 60 003 5790 Thailand 1 800 012 275 Thailand Toll-free +886 (2) 7741 7473 Taiwan 08 0909 9864 Taiwan Toll-free +41 22 518 89 78 Switzerland +41 31 528 09 88 Switzerland +41 43 210 70 42 Switzerland 0 800 002 622 Switzerland Toll-free +46 8 4468 2488 Sweden +46 850 539 728 Sweden 0 20 889 860 Sweden Toll-free +94 7 2091 0374 Sri Lanka +34 84 368 5025 Spain +34 917 873 431 Spain 900 839 088 Spain Toll-free +82 2 6022 2322 Korea, Republic of +82 2 6105 4111 Korea, Republic of 0 808 220 250 Korea, Republic of Toll-free +27 87 550 3946 South Africa +27 87 550 7717 South Africa +27 87 551 7702 South Africa 0 800 008 728 South Africa Toll-free 0 800 064 584 South Africa Toll-free +386 1600 3102 Slovenia +386 1888 8788 Slovenia 0 80 488 840 Slovenia Toll-free +421 233 056 888 Slovakia +421 233 418 515 Slovakia 0 800 005 424 Slovakia Toll-free 0 800 500 702 Serbia Toll-free +65 3158 7288 Singapore +65 3165 1065 Singapore 800 852 6054 Singapore Toll-free 800 811 0528 Saudi Arabia Toll-free 800 850 0304 Saudi Arabia Toll-free +7 495 283 9788 Russian Federation +7 812 426 8988 Russian Federation 800 100 6938 Russian Federation Toll-free 00 800 100363 Qatar Toll-free +40 31 630 1088 Romania +40 37 170 0418 Romania 0 800 672 631 Romania Toll-free +1 787 945 1488 Puerto Rico +1 787 966 7727 Puerto Rico 800 239 1922 Puerto Rico Toll-free +351 308 804 188 Portugal +351 308 810 988 Portugal 800 180 888 Portugal Toll-free +48 22 307 3488 Poland +48 22 398 7356 Poland 00 800 321 1464 Poland Toll-free +63 92 3099 0478 Philippines 1800 1110 2219 Philippines Toll-free +51 1 707 5788 Peru +51 1 730 6777 Peru 0 800 78743 Peru Toll-free 0098 0011 0288 Paraguay Toll-free +507 833 9588 Panama 800 0558 Panama Toll-free +92 21 3879 9843 Pakistan 800 74201 Oman Toll-free +47 2396 0588 Norway +47 7349 4877 Norway 800 248 88 Norway Toll-free +234 1227 8806 Nigeria 708 060 1822 Nigeria Toll-free 1800 220 2039 Nicaragua Toll-free (Landline) 1800 220 2436 Nicaragua Toll-free (Mobile) +64 4 886 0026 New Zealand +64 9 884 6780 New Zealand 0 800 002 260 New Zealand Toll-free +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands 0 800 220 0040 Netherlands Toll-free +52 229 910 0061 Mexico +52 554 161 4288 Mexico 800 733 4118 Mexico Toll-free +356 2776 1777 Malta +356 2778 1288 Malta 800 62714 Malta Toll-free +60 3 3099 2229 Malaysia +60 3 9212 1727 Malaysia 1 800 818 425 Malaysia Toll-free 0 800 904 59 North Macedonia Toll-free +853 6262 1604 Macau, China 0 800 191 Macau, China Toll-free +352 2786 1188 Luxembourg +352 2786 4277 Luxembourg 800 810 88 Luxembourg Toll-free +370 3799 9260 Lithuania +370 5214 1488 Lithuania 8 800 303 19 Lithuania Toll-free +371 6303 1808 Latvia +371 6303 1888 Latvia 8000 0281 Latvia Toll-free +965 2206 9157 Kuwait 800 733 310 Kenya Toll-free +7 727 312 2408 Kazakhstan 800 222 03 Jordan Toll-free +81 3 4578 1488 Japan +81 524 564 439 Japan 0 800 100 5040 Japan Toll-free +1 876 633 1687 Jamaica 800 491 6523 Jamaica Toll-free +39 020 066 7245 Italy +39 069 480 6488 Italy 800 596 788 Italy Toll-free +972 3 978 6688 Israel +972 55 330 1762 Israel 1801 227 228 Israel Toll-free +353 1 513 3247 Ireland +353 1 653 3895 Ireland +353 6 163 9031 Ireland 1800 817 388 Ireland Toll-free +62 21 2789 9657 Indonesia +62 21 3950 1721 Indonesia +62 215 086 1500 Indonesia +91 224 879 8012 India +91 22 62 192 563 India +91 22 71 279 525 India +91 80 71 279 440 India +91 22 48 798 004 India 000 800 001 4002 India Toll-free 000 800 050 5050 India Toll-free 0080 07 473 Iceland Toll-free +36 1 408 8456 Hungary +36 1 701 0488 Hungary 800 881 88 Hungary Toll-free +852 5808 6088 Hong Kong, China 800 906 780 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 931 189 Hong Kong, China Toll-free 800 2791 9494 Honduras Toll-free 1800 3000 161 Guatemala Toll-free +30 211 198 4488 Greece +30 231 118 0599 Greece 800 848 1188 Greece Toll-free 30 708 4676 Ghana Toll-free +49 30 3080 6188 Germany +49 30 5679 5800 Germany +49 69 7104 9922 Germany 0 800 724 3138 Germany Toll-free +995 3224 73988 Georgia +995 7067 77954 Georgia +33 1 7037 2246 France +33 1 7037 9729 France +33 7 5678 4048 France 0 805 082 588 France Toll-free +358 3 4109 2129 Finland +358 9 4245 1488 Finland 0 800 102 188 Finland Toll-free 0080 02 592 Fiji Toll-free +372 660 1699 Estonia +372 880 1188 Estonia +503 2113 9088 El Salvador +503 2136 6444 El Salvador 0800 000 9608 Egypt Toll-free 1800 000 785 Ecuador Toll-free +1 829 947 9220 Dominican Republic +1 829 956 2188 Dominican Republic 800 751 9718 Dominican Republic Toll-free +45 32 71 31 57 Denmark +45 89 88 37 88 Denmark 80 82 02 88 Denmark Toll-free +420 2 2888 2388 Czechia +420 5 3889 0161 Czechia 828 848 888 Czechia Toll-free +357 2 200 0888 Cyprus +357 2 505 4777 Cyprus 800 773 38 Cyprus Toll-free +385 1300 0988 Croatia +385 1777 6333 Croatia 0 800 200 588 Croatia Toll-free +506 4000 3843 Costa Rica +57 1 508 7702 Colombia +57 2 620 7388 Colombia 1 800 518 4301 Colombia Toll-free +86 10 53876330 China +86 10 87833177 China 400 616 8835 China Toll-free 400 669 9381 China Toll-free +56 23 210 9066 Chile +56 41 256 0288 Chile 800 914 125 Chile Toll-free +1 345 769 1930 Cayman Islands +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free 1800 201 503 Cambodia Toll-free +359 2 492 5688 Bulgaria +359 3 257 1633 Bulgaria 00 800 111 3251 Bulgaria Toll-free +55 11 4680 6788 Brazil +55 21 3958 7888 Brazil 0 800 878 3108 Brazil Toll-free 0 800 828 50 Bosnia and Herzegovina Toll-free 800 100 560 Bolivia (Plurinational State of) Toll-free 866 237 6875 Bermuda Toll-free +32 2 290 9360 Belgium +32 2 588 4188 Belgium 0 800 267 88 Belgium Toll-free Meeting ID: 447 977 214 Password: 179616 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adUojhAPmk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 10155 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Sun Dec 15 15:44:27 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 13:44:27 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation Message-ID: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? Stephanie NCSG Chair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Sun Dec 15 18:40:55 2019 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 08:40:55 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi feels safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment. I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi?s replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter?s drafters to make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC?s first Councilor as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the spirit of the charter on those intentions. If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea. So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then following our charter on dealing with the interest. Thanks, Robin > On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: > > We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? > > Stephanie > > NCSG Chair > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Mon Dec 16 06:35:24 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:35:24 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Let's stick to our written rules for now, yes. Have a nice day. On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: > This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi feels > safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and > smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment. > > I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi?s > replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter?s drafters to > make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an > election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller > constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning > SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC > appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council > replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had > just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately > appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council > seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member > (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC?s first Councilor > as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on > this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the > spirit of the charter on those intentions. > > If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the > seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do > is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea. > > So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then > following our charter on dealing with the interest. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that > efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed > with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter > specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could > run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run > democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your > preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I > am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it > does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek > parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? > > Stephanie > > NCSG Chair > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jumaropi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 17 13:52:51 2019 From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 11:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <1141184589.274871.1576583571391@mail.yahoo.com> Dear EC members,I should recuse mysefl from selection for appointed person to replace Farzaneh due I want to be considered to fill that position.? Best Regards,? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 23:35, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote: _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Untitled URL: From jumaropi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 17 13:52:51 2019 From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 11:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <1141184589.274871.1576583571391@mail.yahoo.com> Dear EC members,I should recuse mysefl from selection for appointed person to replace Farzaneh due I want to be considered to fill that position.? Best Regards,? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 23:35, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote: _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Untitled URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Tue Dec 17 15:31:14 2019 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:31:14 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Attendance and Recording of NCSG EC Meeting 13 December 2019 Message-ID: Dear all, Please note that the EC meeting recordings of Friday 13 December have been upload to: https://community.icann.org/x/fQ8nAw Many thanks, -- Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Tue Dec 17 18:40:06 2019 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:40:06 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <2EE537E3-7D54-4C53-AAF7-E8F5B794E93E@ipjustice.org> Given all of the confusion on the main NCSG discuss list from yesterday?s call for interest to fill this position, I suggest that we, the EC, send a clarification and new call, that spells out the regional issues. Having various people weigh-in on their personal interpretations on the main list hasn?t been very helpful in clarifying the matter. This communication needs to come from the EC and it should be approved by the EC before it is sent so we don?t have these kinds of misunderstandings. These are EC decisions, so the entire EC needs to be included in them. Thanks, Robin > On Dec 15, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > Let's stick to our written rules for now, yes. > > Have a nice day. > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 Robin Gross via NCSG-EC > wrote: > This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi feels safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment. > > I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi?s replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter?s drafters to make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC?s first Councilor as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the spirit of the charter on those intentions. > > If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea. > > So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then following our charter on dealing with the interest. > > Thanks, > Robin > > >> On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC > wrote: >> >> We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? >> >> Stephanie >> >> NCSG Chair >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Dec 17 19:06:17 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 12:06:17 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: <2EE537E3-7D54-4C53-AAF7-E8F5B794E93E@ipjustice.org> References: <4eaaa650-0d62-8eda-049c-cc265b8b6cc7@mail.utoronto.ca> <36B2E6C0-5030-4B03-8969-78AF89795452@ipjustice.org> <2EE537E3-7D54-4C53-AAF7-E8F5B794E93E@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Yes. Wasn't aware of the geographical complexities of the matter. My suggestion: stick with the GNSO Council criteria rather than our own or those that apply to ICANN directors. Not that I have anything against the other ones, but I feel that this being a GNSO Council position, it would make most sense to take their rules for consistency sake. Best, On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Given all of the confusion on the main NCSG discuss list from yesterday?s > call for interest to fill this position, I suggest that we, the EC, send a > clarification and new call, that spells out the regional issues. Having > various people weigh-in on their personal interpretations on the main list > hasn?t been very helpful in clarifying the matter. > > This communication needs to come from the EC and it should be approved by > the EC before it is sent so we don?t have these kinds of > misunderstandings. These are EC decisions, so the entire EC needs to be > included in them. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Dec 15, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at GMAIL.COM > wrote: > > Let's stick to our written rules for now, yes. > > Have a nice day. > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 Robin Gross via NCSG-EC > wrote: > >> This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi >> feels safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and >> smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment. >> >> I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi?s >> replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter?s drafters to >> make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an >> election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller >> constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning >> SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC >> appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council >> replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had >> just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately >> appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council >> seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member >> (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC?s first Councilor >> as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on >> this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the >> spirit of the charter on those intentions. >> >> If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the >> seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do >> is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea. >> >> So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then >> following our charter on dealing with the interest. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >> We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that >> efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed >> with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter >> specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could >> run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run >> democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your >> preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I >> am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it >> does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek >> parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? >> >> Stephanie >> >> NCSG Chair >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 18 07:10:18 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (U Of T) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 00:10:18 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farzaneh Badii resignation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, it has been educational for all, which is a goal. My fault for not noticing that the list was not accurate, I really thought Elsa was repping mena so did not note the error. Would you like to edit my previous note, or start from Scratch and rewrite it? Cheers SP Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:06, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote: > > ? > Yes. Wasn't aware of the geographical complexities of the matter. > > My suggestion: stick with the GNSO Council criteria rather than our own or those that apply to ICANN directors. Not that I have anything against the other ones, but I feel that this being a GNSO Council position, it would make most sense to take their rules for consistency sake. > > Best, > >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: >> Given all of the confusion on the main NCSG discuss list from yesterday?s call for interest to fill this position, I suggest that we, the EC, send a clarification and new call, that spells out the regional issues. Having various people weigh-in on their personal interpretations on the main list hasn?t been very helpful in clarifying the matter. >> >> This communication needs to come from the EC and it should be approved by the EC before it is sent so we don?t have these kinds of misunderstandings. These are EC decisions, so the entire EC needs to be included in them. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >>> On Dec 15, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: >>> >>> Let's stick to our written rules for now, yes. >>> >>> Have a nice day. >>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: >>>> This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi feels safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment. >>>> >>>> I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi?s replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter?s drafters to make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC?s first Councilor as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the spirit of the charter on those intentions. >>>> >>>> If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea. >>>> >>>> So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then following our charter on dealing with the interest. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robin >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The Charter specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your preference to stick to the precise words of the Charter, that is fine. I am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek parties expressing an interest. Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>>> >>>>> NCSG Chair >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>>>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 18 20:32:18 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:32:18 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Urgent: need a temporary alternate for the Council meeting tomorrow Message-ID: Hi folks, we have to find a temporary alternate for tomorrow's GNSO Council meeting. Rafik stepped forward to take the proxy, but because Farzi has now formally resigned, we have to find a temp alternate, proxy will no longer work. Too bad, I tried to squeak it through but it bounced back. So can we please have your recommendation for a temporary alternate for tomorrow? Not one of the declared candidates please, because we do not want to show favoritism to one or the other. I was just visiting with Sam Lanfranco who is willing to do it again, but we used him for the Montreal meeting, so it would be better to find a new person. He is, however, up to speed on Council issues which is a decided plus and he has no intention of applying for the longer term temp alternate. Kind regards Steph -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Wed Dec 18 20:36:00 2019 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 10:36:00 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Urgent: need a temporary alternate for the Council meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94B6BC25-16D7-48F8-9B9B-7C9622713042@ipjustice.org> Given that this mtg is tomorrow and we really need to find someone willing and able to do it, who is already up to speed on council issues, I?d definitely be in favor of asking Sam to fill-in for the meeting and would appreciate his willingness to do it at the last moment like this. Thanks, Robin > On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi folks, we have to find a temporary alternate for tomorrow's GNSO Council meeting. Rafik stepped forward to take the proxy, but because Farzi has now formally resigned, we have to find a temp alternate, proxy will no longer work. Too bad, I tried to squeak it through but it bounced back. So can we please have your recommendation for a temporary alternate for tomorrow? Not one of the declared candidates please, because we do not want to show favoritism to one or the other. > > I was just visiting with Sam Lanfranco who is willing to do it again, but we used him for the Montreal meeting, so it would be better to find a new person. He is, however, up to speed on Council issues which is a decided plus and he has no intention of applying for the longer term temp alternate. > > Kind regards > > Steph > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 18 20:43:45 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:43:45 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Urgent: need a temporary alternate for the Council meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <94B6BC25-16D7-48F8-9B9B-7C9622713042@ipjustice.org> References: <94B6BC25-16D7-48F8-9B9B-7C9622713042@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Glad you feel that way, I took the liberty of asking him since he was here clutching a plate of cherry pie when I got the news....It would be nice to find a different candidate, but it is the last council meeting of the year and it would be good to have someone who is more or less up to speed. There is not really enough time to go to the full list unless someone wants to volunteer to manage it, I have to get some actual job work done today.... cheers Steph On 2019-12-18 13:36, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: Given that this mtg is tomorrow and we really need to find someone willing and able to do it, who is already up to speed on council issues, I?d definitely be in favor of asking Sam to fill-in for the meeting and would appreciate his willingness to do it at the last moment like this. Thanks, Robin On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC > wrote: Hi folks, we have to find a temporary alternate for tomorrow's GNSO Council meeting. Rafik stepped forward to take the proxy, but because Farzi has now formally resigned, we have to find a temp alternate, proxy will no longer work. Too bad, I tried to squeak it through but it bounced back. So can we please have your recommendation for a temporary alternate for tomorrow? Not one of the declared candidates please, because we do not want to show favoritism to one or the other. I was just visiting with Sam Lanfranco who is willing to do it again, but we used him for the Montreal meeting, so it would be better to find a new person. He is, however, up to speed on Council issues which is a decided plus and he has no intention of applying for the longer term temp alternate. Kind regards Steph _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Thu Dec 19 04:40:47 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 02:40:47 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Urgent: need a temporary alternate for the Council meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <94B6BC25-16D7-48F8-9B9B-7C9622713042@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: OK, I have not heard back from anybody with objections. Sam has confirmed he ca do it till mid January when we should be ready to name our new person, I hope....in time for the next meeting. Thanks, sending in the form. cheers Steph On 2019-12-18 13:43, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: Glad you feel that way, I took the liberty of asking him since he was here clutching a plate of cherry pie when I got the news....It would be nice to find a different candidate, but it is the last council meeting of the year and it would be good to have someone who is more or less up to speed. There is not really enough time to go to the full list unless someone wants to volunteer to manage it, I have to get some actual job work done today.... cheers Steph On 2019-12-18 13:36, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: Given that this mtg is tomorrow and we really need to find someone willing and able to do it, who is already up to speed on council issues, I?d definitely be in favor of asking Sam to fill-in for the meeting and would appreciate his willingness to do it at the last moment like this. Thanks, Robin On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC > wrote: Hi folks, we have to find a temporary alternate for tomorrow's GNSO Council meeting. Rafik stepped forward to take the proxy, but because Farzi has now formally resigned, we have to find a temp alternate, proxy will no longer work. Too bad, I tried to squeak it through but it bounced back. So can we please have your recommendation for a temporary alternate for tomorrow? Not one of the declared candidates please, because we do not want to show favoritism to one or the other. I was just visiting with Sam Lanfranco who is willing to do it again, but we used him for the Montreal meeting, so it would be better to find a new person. He is, however, up to speed on Council issues which is a decided plus and he has no intention of applying for the longer term temp alternate. Kind regards Steph _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plommer at gmail.com Thu Dec 19 14:29:37 2019 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:29:37 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Urgent: need a temporary alternate for the Council meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: <94B6BC25-16D7-48F8-9B9B-7C9622713042@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Good stuff! I'm still rather preoccupied with moving house two weeks ago, so not able to respond to emails so often. -Raoul On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 04:40, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > OK, I have not heard back from anybody with objections. Sam has confirmed > he ca do it till mid January when we should be ready to name our new > person, I hope....in time for the next meeting. > > Thanks, sending in the form. > > cheers Steph > On 2019-12-18 13:43, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Glad you feel that way, I took the liberty of asking him since he was here > clutching a plate of cherry pie when I got the news....It would be nice to > find a different candidate, but it is the last council meeting of the year > and it would be good to have someone who is more or less up to speed. > There is not really enough time to go to the full list unless someone wants > to volunteer to manage it, I have to get some actual job work done today.... > > cheers Steph > On 2019-12-18 13:36, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Given that this mtg is tomorrow and we really need to find someone willing > and able to do it, who is already up to speed on council issues, I?d > definitely be in favor of asking Sam to fill-in for the meeting and would > appreciate his willingness to do it at the last moment like this. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > Hi folks, we have to find a temporary alternate for tomorrow's GNSO > Council meeting. Rafik stepped forward to take the proxy, but because > Farzi has now formally resigned, we have to find a temp alternate, proxy > will no longer work. Too bad, I tried to squeak it through but it bounced > back. So can we please have your recommendation for a temporary alternate > for tomorrow? Not one of the declared candidates please, because we do not > want to show favoritism to one or the other. > > I was just visiting with Sam Lanfranco who is willing to do it again, but > we used him for the Montreal meeting, so it would be better to find a new > person. He is, however, up to speed on Council issues which is a decided > plus and he has no intention of applying for the longer term temp alternate. > > Kind regards > > Steph > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing listNCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing listNCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sam at lanfranco.net Thu Dec 19 20:53:50 2019 From: sam at lanfranco.net (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:53:50 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Proposed NCSG Finance Committee Ethics Policy Message-ID: Dear NCSG Executive Committee, In my position as acting Chair of the NCSG Finance Committee I would like to forward to the ExCom some of the business of the NCSGG FC that was underway when I took over. There were two documents being worked up for approval. One was a NCSG Finance Committee Ethics Policy and the other was a longer document dealing with FC Procedures. I am attaching the Ethics Policy document for your consideration. In some ways it complements the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior to be found at: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en I will soon be forwarding the FC Procedures document for your consideration. Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair NCSG Finance Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCSG FC Code of EthicsSL1.0.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 16292 bytes Desc: not available URL: From plommer at gmail.com Thu Dec 19 22:23:22 2019 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:23:22 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Proposed NCSG Finance Committee Ethics Policy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Sam, the code of ethics looks very well thought out to me. -Raoul On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 21:48, Sam Lanfranco via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear NCSG Executive Committee, > > In my position as acting Chair of the NCSG Finance Committee I would like > to forward to the ExCom some of the business of the NCSGG FC that was > underway when I took over. There were two documents being worked up for > approval. One was a NCSG Finance Committee Ethics Policy and the other was > a longer document dealing with FC Procedures. > > I am attaching the Ethics Policy document for your consideration. In some > ways it complements the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior to be found > at: > > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en > > I will soon be forwarding the FC Procedures document for your > consideration. > > Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair > > NCSG Finance Committee > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: