From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 02:05:56 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 19:05:56 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call with Wapix this week re priorities Message-ID: Dear all, I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding issues we have with our membership database and management software. We still have some development time to use. I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 weeks) 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what we have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) has not evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC folks) put our evaluation of the members. 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep that one as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of copy-pasting everything manually 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out through the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand that it is quite inconvenient when holding the elections. 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the reality of how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain individuals may have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the context of elections. Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who knows ;)) Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I will be in touch with you when the time comes. Have a nice week! Raphael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Apr 8 02:47:46 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 23:47:46 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03a07f97-0909-731c-3072-0ccdf00c14cc@mail.utoronto.ca> Thanks Raphael, Comments inline. Steph On 2019-04-07 19:05, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote: Dear all, I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding issues we have with our membership database and management software. We still have some development time to use. I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 weeks) good idea 1. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what we have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) has not evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC folks) put our evaluation of the members. yup 1. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep that one as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of copy-pasting everything manually Good idea, but how complicated would that be to program? 1. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out through the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand that it is quite inconvenient when holding the elections. no idea 1. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the reality of how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain individuals may have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the context of elections. Yes, and I must say, people must pick a horse. I don't think we should be letting people vote multiple times. Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who knows ;)) Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I will be in touch with you when the time comes. Have a nice week! Raphael _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farell at benin2point0.org Mon Apr 8 11:35:22 2019 From: farell at benin2point0.org (Ekue Farell Folly) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 10:35:22 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Raphael, Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first meeting, I think that everything is covered. As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might be useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, otherwise; reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. Good luck. On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam wrote: > Dear all, > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to > inform them of our priorities list with regards to the currently > outstanding issues we have with our membership database and > management software. We still have some development time to use. > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of > priorities: > Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two weeks > when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 > weeks) Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing > what we have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC > folks) has not evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form > where we (EC folks) put our evaluation of the members.A new system to > track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and eventually the > answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not directly on the > main front end page with pending members, to keep that one as clean > as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of copy-pasting > everything manuallyResolving a display issue when a voter's list is > pulled out through the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but > I understand that it is quite inconvenient when holding the > elections. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI > term) between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the > reality of how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how > certain individuals may have several hats, etc.). This is especially > important in the context of elections.Let me know if you have > suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of our priorities and > if you would be interested in joining the call (who knows ;)) > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, > so that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; > I will be in touch with you when the time comes. > > Have a nice week! > > Raphael > > _______________________________________________Techteam mailing > listTechteam at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 17:49:13 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 10:49:13 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi both (and everyone else) Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, it is something that I will discuss with them before they start on anything. If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is something that would substantially deplete our remaining development blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But yes I will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly wrote: > Dear Raphael, > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first > meeting, I think that everything is covered. > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might be > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, otherwise; > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. > > Good luck. > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam > wrote: > > Dear all, > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding > issues we have with our membership database and management software. We > still have some development time to use. > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 > weeks) > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what we > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) has not > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC folks) put > our evaluation of the members. > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep that one > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of > copy-pasting everything manually > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out through > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand that it is > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the reality of > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain individuals may > have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the context of > elections. > > Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of > our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who > knows ;)) > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so > that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I will be > in touch with you when the time comes. > > Have a nice week! > > Raphael > > _______________________________________________ > > Techteam mailing list > > Techteam at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 18:50:28 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 11:50:28 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi Tapani, Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Hi Rapha?l, > > Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? > > I might join, depending on the time. > > Thanks, > > Tapani > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via > Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > > > Hi both (and everyone else) > > > > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, it > > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on anything. > > > > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is > > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development > > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. > > > > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not > > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But > yes I > > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < > farell at benin2point0.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Raphael, > > > > > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first > > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. > > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might be > > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, > otherwise; > > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via > Techteam > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform > > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding > > > issues we have with our membership database and management software. We > > > still have some development time to use. > > > > > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: > > > > > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two > > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, > every 2 > > > weeks) > > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what > we > > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) > has not > > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC > folks) put > > > our evaluation of the members. > > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and > > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not > > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep > that one > > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of > > > copy-pasting everything manually > > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out > through > > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand > that it is > > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. > > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) > > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the > reality of > > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain > individuals may > > > have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the > context of > > > elections. > > > > > > Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another > vision of > > > our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who > > > knows ;)) > > > > > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so > > > that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I > will be > > > in touch with you when the time comes. > > > > > > Have a nice week! > > > > > > Raphael > _______________________________________________ > Techteam mailing list > Techteam at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 02:34:50 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:34:50 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi all Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tapani, > > Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply > from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! > > I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do > > Best, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < > techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Hi Rapha?l, >> >> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >> >> I might join, depending on the time. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tapani >> >> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >> Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >> > >> > Hi both (and everyone else) >> > >> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, >> it >> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >> anything. >> > >> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development >> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >> > >> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not >> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But >> yes I >> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >> > >> > Have a nice day, >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >> farell at benin2point0.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Dear Raphael, >> > > >> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first >> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might >> be >> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >> otherwise; >> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >> > > >> > > Good luck. >> > > >> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >> Techteam >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear all, >> > > >> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >> inform >> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding >> > > issues we have with our membership database and management software. >> We >> > > still have some development time to use. >> > > >> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: >> > > >> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two >> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, >> every 2 >> > > weeks) >> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what >> we >> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >> folks) has not >> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC >> folks) put >> > > our evaluation of the members. >> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI >> and >> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but >> not >> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep >> that one >> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of >> > > copy-pasting everything manually >> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out >> through >> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand >> that it is >> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) >> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >> reality of >> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >> individuals may >> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 19:42:40 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:42:40 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) > > https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 > > > > Best, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Tapani, >> >> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply >> from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >> >> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >> >> Best, >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rapha?l, >>> >>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>> >>> I might join, depending on the time. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tapani >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >>> Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi both (and everyone else) >>> > >>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, >>> it >>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>> anything. >>> > >>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development >>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>> > >>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not >>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But >>> yes I >>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>> > >>> > Have a nice day, >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>> farell at benin2point0.org> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Dear Raphael, >>> > > >>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first >>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might >>> be >>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>> otherwise; >>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>> > > >>> > > Good luck. >>> > > >>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >>> Techteam >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Dear all, >>> > > >>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>> inform >>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding >>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management software. >>> We >>> > > still have some development time to use. >>> > > >>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>> priorities: >>> > > >>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two >>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, >>> every 2 >>> > > weeks) >>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>> what we >>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>> folks) has not >>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC >>> folks) put >>> > > our evaluation of the members. >>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI >>> and >>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but >>> not >>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep >>> that one >>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of >>> > > copy-pasting everything manually >>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out >>> through >>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand >>> that it is >>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) >>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>> reality of >>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>> individuals may >>> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Sat Apr 13 04:05:40 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:05:40 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi all A quick update: The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the mailing lists and archives. Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for approval once I get it. Have a nice weekend, Raphael On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) >> >> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tapani, >>> >>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply >>> from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >>> >>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Rapha?l, >>>> >>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>>> >>>> I might join, depending on the time. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Tapani >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these >>>> issues, it >>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>>> anything. >>>> > >>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development >>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>>> > >>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did >>>> not >>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But >>>> yes I >>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>>> > >>>> > Have a nice day, >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>>> farell at benin2point0.org> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Dear Raphael, >>>> > > >>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a >>>> first >>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it >>>> might be >>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>>> otherwise; >>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>>> > > >>>> > > Good luck. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >>>> Techteam >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Dear all, >>>> > > >>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>>> inform >>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently >>>> outstanding >>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management >>>> software. We >>>> > > still have some development time to use. >>>> > > >>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>>> priorities: >>>> > > >>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every >>>> two >>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us >>>> say, every 2 >>>> > > weeks) >>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>>> what we >>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>>> folks) has not >>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC >>>> folks) put >>>> > > our evaluation of the members. >>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI >>>> and >>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but >>>> not >>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to >>>> keep that one >>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of >>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually >>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out >>>> through >>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand >>>> that it is >>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) >>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>>> reality of >>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>>> individuals may >>>> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Sun Apr 21 08:12:11 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 01:12:11 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi all Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) *** 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column structure here for your review. Several things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > A quick update: > > The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to provide > some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the mailing > lists and archives. > > Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for > approval once I get it. > > Have a nice weekend, > > Raphael > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule >> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) >>> >>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tapani, >>>> >>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply >>>> from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >>>> >>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Rapha?l, >>>>> >>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>>>> >>>>> I might join, depending on the time. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Tapani >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these >>>>> issues, it >>>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>>>> anything. >>>>> > >>>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development >>>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>>>> > >>>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did >>>>> not >>>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) >>>>> But yes I >>>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>>>> > >>>>> > Have a nice day, >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>>>> farell at benin2point0.org> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > Dear Raphael, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a >>>>> first >>>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it >>>>> might be >>>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>>>> otherwise; >>>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Good luck. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >>>>> Techteam >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Dear all, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>>>> inform >>>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently >>>>> outstanding >>>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management >>>>> software. We >>>>> > > still have some development time to use. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>>>> priorities: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every >>>>> two >>>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us >>>>> say, every 2 >>>>> > > weeks) >>>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>>>> what we >>>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>>>> folks) has not >>>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC >>>>> folks) put >>>>> > > our evaluation of the members. >>>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the >>>>> RFI and >>>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form >>>>> (but not >>>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to >>>>> keep that one >>>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of >>>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually >>>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out >>>>> through >>>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand >>>>> that it is >>>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) >>>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>>>> reality of >>>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>>>> individuals may >>>>> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Apr 22 21:43:35 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 18:43:35 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Election timing for 2019 Message-ID: <3c7626cb-6a5c-62b6-9bff-d9b46b46dad5@mail.utoronto.ca> Dear EC members: the constituency and NCSG Chairs have been discussing the upcoming elections for all three groups. Because ICANN is backing up travel deadlines in order to cut costs, we now have to have our members names in four months in advance. Deadline for the fall meeting is July 15, which I find ridiculous but I doubt we can do much about it. This will impact the timing of elections, in order to ease the Constituencies and Stakeholders' group chair transition, we would like to have the new chairs seated at the AGM. We think it would be sensible and labor saving to have all three elections run at the same time. Here is the proposed schedule: May 13 - June 07: check in period 23 May - 06 June: Nomination period 07 June: deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate statement. Check in ends. 09 June: Voter roll finalized 08/09 June: meet the candidates call 10 June - 23 June: Voting 24 June: Results Tell me what you think. We had thought about pushing it back a few weeks, but then it wound up with the meet the candidates call coinciding with Rightscon, which we did not want to do. Cheers Stephanie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Apr 23 00:48:49 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:48:49 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Election timing for 2019 In-Reply-To: <3c7626cb-6a5c-62b6-9bff-d9b46b46dad5@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <3c7626cb-6a5c-62b6-9bff-d9b46b46dad5@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: I'll defer to my more experience colleagues on that issue :) So fine by me Best, On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:43 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear EC members: the constituency and NCSG Chairs have been discussing > the upcoming elections for all three groups. Because ICANN is backing up > travel deadlines in order to cut costs, we now have to have our members > names in four months in advance. Deadline for the fall meeting is July 15, > which I find ridiculous but I doubt we can do much about it. This will > impact the timing of elections, in order to ease the Constituencies and > Stakeholders' group chair transition, we would like to have the new chairs > seated at the AGM. We think it would be sensible and labor saving to have > all three elections run at the same time. Here is the proposed schedule: > > May 13 - June 07: check in period > 23 May - 06 June: Nomination period > 07 June: deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate statement. > Check in ends. > 09 June: Voter roll finalized > 08/09 June: meet the candidates call > 10 June - 23 June: Voting > 24 June: Results > > > Tell me what you think. We had thought about pushing it back a few weeks, > but then it wound up with the meet the candidates call coinciding with > Rightscon, which we did not want to do. > > Cheers Stephanie > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Tue Apr 23 00:49:19 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:49:19 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP Thanks! On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and > what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. > > Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) > > > *** > > 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options > here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending > membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to > remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will > take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who > have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the > applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. > > 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column > structure here for your review. Several things > to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been > implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the > organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? > c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to > keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are > looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> A quick update: >> >> The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to provide >> some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the mailing >> lists and archives. >> >> Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for >> approval once I get it. >> >> Have a nice weekend, >> >> Raphael >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) >>>> >>>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tapani, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply >>>>> from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >>>>> >>>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >>>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Rapha?l, >>>>>> >>>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>>>>> >>>>>> I might join, depending on the time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Tapani >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these >>>>>> issues, it >>>>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>>>>> anything. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>>>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining development >>>>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did >>>>>> not >>>>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) >>>>>> But yes I >>>>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Have a nice day, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Dear Raphael, >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a >>>>>> first >>>>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>>>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it >>>>>> might be >>>>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>>>>> otherwise; >>>>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Good luck. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via >>>>>> Techteam >>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Dear all, >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>>>>> inform >>>>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently >>>>>> outstanding >>>>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management >>>>>> software. We >>>>>> > > still have some development time to use. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>>>>> priorities: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every >>>>>> two >>>>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us >>>>>> say, every 2 >>>>>> > > weeks) >>>>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>>>>> what we >>>>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>>>>> folks) has not >>>>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we >>>>>> (EC folks) put >>>>>> > > our evaluation of the members. >>>>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the >>>>>> RFI and >>>>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form >>>>>> (but not >>>>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to >>>>>> keep that one >>>>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of >>>>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually >>>>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out >>>>>> through >>>>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I >>>>>> understand that it is >>>>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>>>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) >>>>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>>>>> reality of >>>>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>>>>> individuals may >>>>>> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From plommer at gmail.com Tue Apr 23 04:40:48 2019 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 10:40:48 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Election timing for 2019 In-Reply-To: References: <3c7626cb-6a5c-62b6-9bff-d9b46b46dad5@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Looks good - let's make it happen! I like it how we'll get the results on the first day of ICANN 65 and it makes very much sense to have all the SG elections happening at the same time. -Raoul On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 06:49, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > I'll defer to my more experience colleagues on that issue :) So fine by me > > Best, > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:43 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >> Dear EC members: the constituency and NCSG Chairs have been discussing >> the upcoming elections for all three groups. Because ICANN is backing up >> travel deadlines in order to cut costs, we now have to have our members >> names in four months in advance. Deadline for the fall meeting is July 15, >> which I find ridiculous but I doubt we can do much about it. This will >> impact the timing of elections, in order to ease the Constituencies and >> Stakeholders' group chair transition, we would like to have the new chairs >> seated at the AGM. We think it would be sensible and labor saving to have >> all three elections run at the same time. Here is the proposed schedule: >> >> May 13 - June 07: check in period >> 23 May - 06 June: Nomination period >> 07 June: deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate statement. >> Check in ends. >> 09 June: Voter roll finalized >> 08/09 June: meet the candidates call >> 10 June - 23 June: Voting >> 24 June: Results >> >> >> Tell me what you think. We had thought about pushing it back a few >> weeks, but then it wound up with the meet the candidates call coinciding >> with Rightscon, which we did not want to do. >> >> Cheers Stephanie >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-EC mailing list >> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jumaropi at yahoo.com Tue Apr 23 18:50:34 2019 From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [NCSG-EC] Election timing for 2019 In-Reply-To: References: <3c7626cb-6a5c-62b6-9bff-d9b46b46dad5@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <1116173019.3568635.1556034634059@mail.yahoo.com> I'd also like to have all SG elections at the same time. I don't know whether we will have the results just before starting ICANN 65 but in any case will be good to be clear each term ends in AGM then.? Maybe we could do meet the candidates some days before to avoid crossing with RightsCon, I will suggest ending nomination period June?4th or 5th? , I think that nomination period is too long, to be able to have meet candidates call on June 6th or 7th.? Just sharing some thoughts,? Best Regards,?? JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P. Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaMembership Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes Cel. +57 3017435600 Twitter:?@JmanuRojas ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? El lunes, 22 de abril de 2019 8:41:22 p. m. GMT-5, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC escribi?: Looks good - let's make it happen! I like it how we'll get the results on the first day of ICANN 65 and it makes very much sense to have all the SG elections happening at the same time. -Raoul On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 06:49, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote: I'll defer to my more experience colleagues on that issue :) So fine by me Best, On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:43 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: Dear EC members:? the constituency and NCSG Chairs have been discussing the upcoming elections for all three groups.? Because ICANN is backing up travel deadlines in order to cut costs, we now have to have our? members names in four months in advance.? Deadline for the fall meeting is July 15, which I find ridiculous but I doubt we can do much about it.? This will impact the timing of elections, in order to ease the Constituencies and Stakeholders' group chair transition, we would like to have the new chairs seated at the AGM.? We think it would be sensible and labor saving to have all three elections run at the same time.? Here is the proposed schedule: May 13 - June 07: check in period 23 May - 06 June: Nomination period 07 June:? deadline for?nomination?acceptance and candidate statement. Check in ends. 09 June: Voter roll finalized 08/09 June: meet the candidates call 10 June - 23 June: Voting 24 June: Results Tell me what you think.? We had thought about pushing it back a few weeks, but then it wound up with the meet the candidates call coinciding with Rightscon, which we did not want to do.? 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URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 20:51:24 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:51:24 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi all An update from Josh on point 3: *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* Thanks Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP > > Thanks! > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and >> what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. >> >> Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) >> >> >> *** >> >> 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options >> here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending >> membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to >> remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will >> take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who >> have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the >> applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. >> >> 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column >> structure here for your review. Several >> things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been >> implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the >> organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? >> c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to >> keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are >> looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> A quick update: >>> >>> The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to >>> provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the >>> mailing lists and archives. >>> >>> Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for >>> approval once I get it. >>> >>> Have a nice weekend, >>> >>> Raphael >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this >>>>> Friday) >>>>> >>>>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tapani, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a >>>>>> reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >>>>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Rapha?l, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I might join, depending on the time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tapani >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these >>>>>>> issues, it >>>>>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>>>>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining >>>>>>> development >>>>>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I >>>>>>> did not >>>>>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) >>>>>>> But yes I >>>>>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Have a nice day, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Dear Raphael, >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>>>>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it >>>>>>> might be >>>>>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>>>>>> otherwise; >>>>>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Good luck. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>>>> via Techteam >>>>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Dear all, >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>>>>>> inform >>>>>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently >>>>>>> outstanding >>>>>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management >>>>>>> software. We >>>>>>> > > still have some development time to use. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>>>>>> priorities: >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members >>>>>>> every two >>>>>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us >>>>>>> say, every 2 >>>>>>> > > weeks) >>>>>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>>>>>> what we >>>>>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>>>>>> folks) has not >>>>>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we >>>>>>> (EC folks) put >>>>>>> > > our evaluation of the members. >>>>>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the >>>>>>> RFI and >>>>>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form >>>>>>> (but not >>>>>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to >>>>>>> keep that one >>>>>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually >>>>>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled >>>>>>> out through >>>>>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I >>>>>>> understand that it is >>>>>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>>>>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI >>>>>>> term) >>>>>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>>>>>> reality of >>>>>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>>>>>> individuals may >>>>>>> > > have several hats, etc.). 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URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Fri Apr 26 01:51:33 2019 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:51:33 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> Hi all, The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to raise the point. I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect or otherwise involve overlapping work. I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week and possibly attend another call with Wapix. Tapani On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) wrote: > > Hi all > > An update from Josh on point 3: > > *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer > supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop > this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have > to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours > to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that > information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for > reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not > to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the > email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. > > *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* > > Thanks > > Have a nice day, > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi all > >> > >> Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and > >> what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. > >> > >> Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) > >> > >> > >> *** > >> > >> 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options > >> here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending > >> membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to > >> remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will > >> take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who > >> have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the > >> applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. > >> > >> 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column > >> structure here for your review. Several > >> things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been > >> implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the > >> organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? > >> c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to > >> keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are > >> looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all > >>> > >>> A quick update: > >>> > >>> The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to > >>> provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the > >>> mailing lists and archives. > >>> > >>> Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for > >>> approval once I get it. > >>> > >>> Have a nice weekend, > >>> > >>> Raphael > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > >>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi all > >>>>> > >>>>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this > >>>>> Friday) > >>>>> > >>>>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Best, > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > >>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Tapani, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a > >>>>>> reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < > >>>>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Rapha?l, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I might join, depending on the time. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tapani > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix > >>>>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these > >>>>>>> issues, it > >>>>>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on > >>>>>>> anything. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is > >>>>>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining > >>>>>>> development > >>>>>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I > >>>>>>> did not > >>>>>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) > >>>>>>> But yes I > >>>>>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > Have a nice day, > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < > >>>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org> > >>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Dear Raphael, > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a > >>>>>>> first > >>>>>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. > >>>>>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it > >>>>>>> might be > >>>>>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, > >>>>>>> otherwise; > >>>>>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Good luck. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix > >>>>>>> via Techteam > >>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Dear all, > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to > >>>>>>> inform > >>>>>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently > >>>>>>> outstanding > >>>>>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management > >>>>>>> software. We > >>>>>>> > > still have some development time to use. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of > >>>>>>> priorities: > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members > >>>>>>> every two > >>>>>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us > >>>>>>> say, every 2 > >>>>>>> > > weeks) > >>>>>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing > >>>>>>> what we > >>>>>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC > >>>>>>> folks) has not > >>>>>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we > >>>>>>> (EC folks) put > >>>>>>> > > our evaluation of the members. > >>>>>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the > >>>>>>> RFI and > >>>>>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form > >>>>>>> (but not > >>>>>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to > >>>>>>> keep that one > >>>>>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually > >>>>>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled > >>>>>>> out through > >>>>>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I > >>>>>>> understand that it is > >>>>>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. > >>>>>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI > >>>>>>> term) > >>>>>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the > >>>>>>> reality of > >>>>>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain > >>>>>>> individuals may > >>>>>>> > > have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the > >>>>>>> context of > >>>>>>> > > elections. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another > >>>>>>> vision of > >>>>>>> > > our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the > >>>>>>> call (who > >>>>>>> > > knows ;)) > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 > >>>>>>> and 5, so > >>>>>>> > > that I understand correctly the problem and the desired > >>>>>>> solution; I will be > >>>>>>> > > in touch with you when the time comes. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Have a nice week! > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Raphael > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Techteam mailing list > >>>>>>> Techteam at lists.ncsg.is > >>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- Tapani Tarvainen From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Sat Apr 27 00:00:21 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 21:00:21 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> I find this weird. If Tapani is correct, why on earth are we spending so much on a system that relies on Gmail? I am no geek as you all know, but it does seem to me that since I get all the applications when they come in, It ought to be within my limited powers of observation to notice when the apps have stacked up enough to nag the EC to take a look. Which is where we are today, I have done my homework, could the EC please get in there and review the pile so we can have a chat next week? Thanks. I will send a doodle for a call time shortly.... Steph On 2019-04-25 18:51, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: Hi all, The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to raise the point. I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect or otherwise involve overlapping work. I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week and possibly attend another call with Wapix. Tapani On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) wrote: Hi all An update from Josh on point 3: *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* Thanks Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP Thanks! On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) *** 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column structure here for your review. Several things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all A quick update: The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the mailing lists and archives. Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for approval once I get it. Have a nice weekend, Raphael On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi Tapani, Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: Hi Rapha?l, Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? I might join, depending on the time. Thanks, Tapani On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: Hi both (and everyone else) Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, it is something that I will discuss with them before they start on anything. If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is something that would substantially deplete our remaining development blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But yes I will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < farell at benin2point0.org> wrote: Dear Raphael, Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first meeting, I think that everything is covered. As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might be useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, otherwise; reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. Good luck. On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam wrote: Dear all, I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding issues we have with our membership database and management software. We still have some development time to use. I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 weeks) 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what we have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) has not evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC folks) put our evaluation of the members. 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep that one as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of copy-pasting everything manually 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out through the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand that it is quite inconvenient when holding the elections. 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the reality of how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain individuals may have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the context of elections. Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who knows ;)) Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I will be in touch with you when the time comes. Have a nice week! Raphael _______________________________________________ Techteam mailing list Techteam at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Sat Apr 27 00:31:43 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:31:43 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Hi Stephanie, I think Josh was using gmail as an example of client referring to the fact that whatever client we use, it would need to be configured so that CIVI can go and "fetch" information and display it in CIVI. In this instance, we're looking at RFIs sent by Maryam and replies to them. So no the "system" does not rely on gmail ;) And you seem to be referring to how we should get notice of apps piling up. This will normally be addressed first and is a matter of a few hours at most of development time, and unrelated to what Tapani was himself referring to. As for the cost, yes, it is expensive, but I suggest that we finish using the development blocks we have already paid for and then consider switching to someone else. Have a nice evening, On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:00 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > I find this weird. If Tapani is correct, why on earth are we spending so > much on a system that relies on Gmail? I am no geek as you all know, but > it does seem to me that since I get all the applications when they come in, > It ought to be within my limited powers of observation to notice when the > apps have stacked up enough to nag the EC to take a look. > > Which is where we are today, I have done my homework, could the EC please > get in there and review the pile so we can have a chat next week? Thanks. > I will send a doodle for a call time shortly.... > > Steph > On 2019-04-25 18:51, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi all, > > The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. > Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; > indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of > Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to > raise the point. > > I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but > then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. > > Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think > about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as > it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect > or otherwise involve overlapping work. > > I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week > and possibly attend another call with Wapix. > > Tapani > > > On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) wrote: > > Hi all > > An update from Josh on point 3: > > *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer > supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop > this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have > to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours > to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that > information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for > reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not > to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the > email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. > > *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* > > Thanks > > Have a nice day, > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP > > Thanks! > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > Hi all > > Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and > what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. > > Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) > > > *** > > 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options > here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending > membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to > remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will > take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who > have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the > applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. > > 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column > structure here for your review. Several > things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been > implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the > organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? > c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to > keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are > looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > Hi all > > A quick update: > > The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to > provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the > mailing lists and archives. > > Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for > approval once I get it. > > Have a nice weekend, > > Raphael > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > Hi all > > Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this > Friday) > https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 > > > Best, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: > > > Hi Tapani, > > Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a > reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! > > I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do > > Best, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam wrote: > > > Hi Rapha?l, > > Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? > > I might join, depending on the time. > > Thanks, > > Tapani > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix > via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > Hi both (and everyone else) > > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these > > issues, it > > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on > > anything. > > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is > something that would substantially deplete our remaining > > development > > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. > > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I > > did not > > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) > > But yes I > > will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. > > Have a nice day, > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < > > farell at benin2point0.org> > > wrote: > > > Dear Raphael, > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a > > first > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it > > might be > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, > > otherwise; > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. > > Good luck. > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix > > via Techteam > > wrote: > > Dear all, > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to > > inform > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently > > outstanding > > issues we have with our membership database and management > > software. We > > still have some development time to use. > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of > > priorities: > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members > > every two > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us > > say, every 2 > > weeks) > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing > > what we > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC > > folks) has not > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we > > (EC folks) put > > our evaluation of the members. > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the > > RFI and > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form > > (but not > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, to > > keep that one > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam > > of > > copy-pasting everything manually > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled > > out through > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I > > understand that it is > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI > > term) > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the > > reality of > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain > > individuals may > > have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the > > context of > > elections. > > Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another > > vision of > > our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the > > call (who > > knows ;)) > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 > > and 5, so > > that I understand correctly the problem and the desired > > solution; I will be > > in touch with you when the time comes. > > Have a nice week! > > Raphael > > _______________________________________________ > Techteam mailing listTechteam at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Sat Apr 27 00:33:22 2019 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:33:22 -0700 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <1A05BFC3-A568-41FE-9EC0-A7A13CE99F28@ipjustice.org> Thanks, Stephanie. I?ve gone through and evaluated all of the pending membership applications now. A chat next week sounds good. All best, Robin > On Apr 26, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote: > > I find this weird. If Tapani is correct, why on earth are we spending so much on a system that relies on Gmail? I am no geek as you all know, but it does seem to me that since I get all the applications when they come in, It ought to be within my limited powers of observation to notice when the apps have stacked up enough to nag the EC to take a look. > > Which is where we are today, I have done my homework, could the EC please get in there and review the pile so we can have a chat next week? Thanks. I will send a doodle for a call time shortly.... > > Steph > On 2019-04-25 18:51, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. >> Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; >> indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of >> Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to >> raise the point. >> >> I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but >> then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. >> >> Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think >> about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as >> it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect >> or otherwise involve overlapping work. >> >> I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week >> and possibly attend another call with Wapix. >> >> Tapani >> >> >> On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com ) wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> An update from Josh on point 3: >>> >>> *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer >>> supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop >>> this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have >>> to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours >>> to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that >>> information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for >>> reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not >>> to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the >>> email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. >>> >>> *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Have a nice day, >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and >>>>> what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. >>>>> >>>>> Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *** >>>>> >>>>> 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options >>>>> here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending >>>>> membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to >>>>> remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will >>>>> take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who >>>>> have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the >>>>> applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. >>>>> >>>>> 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column >>>>> structure here for your review. Several >>>>> things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been >>>>> implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the >>>>> organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? >>>>> c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to >>>>> keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are >>>>> looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all >>>>>> >>>>>> A quick update: >>>>>> >>>>>> The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to >>>>>> provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the >>>>>> mailing lists and archives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for >>>>>> approval once I get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a nice weekend, >>>>>> >>>>>> Raphael >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this >>>>>>>> Friday) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < >>>>>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Tapani, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a >>>>>>>>> reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < >>>>>>>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Rapha?l, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I might join, depending on the time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tapani >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>>>>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is ) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi both (and everyone else) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these >>>>>>>>>> issues, it >>>>>>>>>>> is something that I will discuss with them before they start on >>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>>>> If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is >>>>>>>>>>> something that would substantially deplete our remaining >>>>>>>>>> development >>>>>>>>>>> blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I >>>>>>>>>> did not >>>>>>>>>>> mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) >>>>>>>>>> But yes I >>>>>>>>>>> will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have a nice day, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < >>>>>>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Raphael, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a >>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>>> meeting, I think that everything is covered. >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it >>>>>>>>>> might be >>>>>>>>>>>> useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, >>>>>>>>>> otherwise; >>>>>>>>>>>> reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix >>>>>>>>>> via Techteam >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to >>>>>>>>>> inform >>>>>>>>>>>> them of our priorities list with regards to the currently >>>>>>>>>> outstanding >>>>>>>>>>>> issues we have with our membership database and management >>>>>>>>>> software. We >>>>>>>>>>>> still have some development time to use. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest moving forward with the following order of >>>>>>>>>> priorities: >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members >>>>>>>>>> every two >>>>>>>>>>>> weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us >>>>>>>>>> say, every 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> weeks) >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing >>>>>>>>>> what we >>>>>>>>>>>> have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC >>>>>>>>>> folks) has not >>>>>>>>>>>> evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we >>>>>>>>>> (EC folks) put >>>>>>>>>>>> our evaluation of the members. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the >>>>>>>>>> RFI and >>>>>>>>>>>> eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form >>>>>>>>>> (but not >>>>>>>>>>>> directly on the main front end page with pending members, to >>>>>>>>>> keep that one >>>>>>>>>>>> as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> copy-pasting everything manually >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled >>>>>>>>>> out through >>>>>>>>>>>> the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I >>>>>>>>>> understand that it is >>>>>>>>>>>> quite inconvenient when holding the elections. >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI >>>>>>>>>> term) >>>>>>>>>>>> between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the >>>>>>>>>> reality of >>>>>>>>>>>> how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain >>>>>>>>>> individuals may >>>>>>>>>>>> have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the >>>>>>>>>> context of >>>>>>>>>>>> elections. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another >>>>>>>>>> vision of >>>>>>>>>>>> our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the >>>>>>>>>> call (who >>>>>>>>>>>> knows ;)) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 >>>>>>>>>> and 5, so >>>>>>>>>>>> that I understand correctly the problem and the desired >>>>>>>>>> solution; I will be >>>>>>>>>>>> in touch with you when the time comes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a nice week! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Raphael >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Techteam mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Techteam at lists.ncsg.is >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam >>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com Sat Apr 27 00:36:46 2019 From: rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Rapha=C3=ABl_Beauregard=2DLacroix?=) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:36:46 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi Tapani, I could check with Josh, but I think he was either using gmail as an example of a client, or assuming that we (or for this purpose, Maryam) is using gmail. I think it is worthwhile to ask how "portable" their solution would be in the event of a change of client for the person whose email is configured. What we need with RFI tracking is a way to record, in civi, the RFI sent by Maryam and the actual reply she receives, without having her copy/paste it. This necessarily means some level of intrusion into the mailbox of the person in charge of RFIs, although there are various ways this intrusion can be fenced up, I presume. I'm not sure however how migrating the mailing list would solve problems here given that these RFIs happen offlist. But I might be misunderstanding you! Yazid: thanks for your input. It is normal you don't have the access since only EC members have it for that one! Have a nice evening, On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:51 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi all, > > The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. > Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; > indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of > Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to > raise the point. > > I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but > then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. > > Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think > about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as > it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect > or otherwise involve overlapping work. > > I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week > and possibly attend another call with Wapix. > > Tapani > > > On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > An update from Josh on point 3: > > > > *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer > > supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to > develop > > this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you > have > > to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 > hours > > to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that > > information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form > for > > reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose > not > > to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the > > email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. > > > > *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* > > > > Thanks > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > > rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all > > >> > > >> Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) > and > > >> what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. > > >> > > >> Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) > > >> > > >> > > >> *** > > >> > > >> 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three > options > > >> here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are > pending > > >> membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email > to > > >> remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet > will > > >> take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those > reviewers who > > >> have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email > of the > > >> applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. > > >> > > >> 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new > column > > >> structure here for your review. Several > > >> things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet > been > > >> implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field > on the > > >> organization membership page. Do you want something different on this > page? > > >> c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll > have to > > >> keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, > we are > > >> looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. > > >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > >> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi all > > >>> > > >>> A quick update: > > >>> > > >>> The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to > > >>> provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating > the > > >>> mailing lists and archives. > > >>> > > >>> Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate > for > > >>> approval once I get it. > > >>> > > >>> Have a nice weekend, > > >>> > > >>> Raphael > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > >>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > >>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi all > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this > > >>>>> Friday) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 > > >>>>> < > https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fj%2F9965095294&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNHXvBC9yL4WzPHKSnYbORcH54Kiiw > > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < > > >>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi Tapani, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a > > >>>>>> reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < > > >>>>>> techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Rapha?l, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Will you post the call time and details here when the time is > fixed? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I might join, depending on the time. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Tapani > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l > Beauregard-Lacroix > > >>>>>>> via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > Hi both (and everyone else) > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these > > >>>>>>> issues, it > > >>>>>>> > is something that I will discuss with them before they start on > > >>>>>>> anything. > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, > that is > > >>>>>>> > something that would substantially deplete our remaining > > >>>>>>> development > > >>>>>>> > blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I > > >>>>>>> did not > > >>>>>>> > mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation > :) > > >>>>>>> But yes I > > >>>>>>> > will report here after the call and also as the work > progresses. > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > Have a nice day, > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < > > >>>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org> > > >>>>>>> > wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Dear Raphael, > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. > For a > > >>>>>>> first > > >>>>>>> > > meeting, I think that everything is covered. > > >>>>>>> > > As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that > it > > >>>>>>> might be > > >>>>>>> > > useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could > join, > > >>>>>>> otherwise; > > >>>>>>> > > reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Good luck. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix > > >>>>>>> via Techteam > > >>>>>>> > > wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Dear all, > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in > order to > > >>>>>>> inform > > >>>>>>> > > them of our priorities list with regards to the currently > > >>>>>>> outstanding > > >>>>>>> > > issues we have with our membership database and management > > >>>>>>> software. We > > >>>>>>> > > still have some development time to use. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > I would suggest moving forward with the following order of > > >>>>>>> priorities: > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members > > >>>>>>> every two > > >>>>>>> > > weeks when there are pending membership applications (let > us > > >>>>>>> say, every 2 > > >>>>>>> > > weeks) > > >>>>>>> > > 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and > changing > > >>>>>>> what we > > >>>>>>> > > have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among > EC > > >>>>>>> folks) has not > > >>>>>>> > > evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where > we > > >>>>>>> (EC folks) put > > >>>>>>> > > our evaluation of the members. > > >>>>>>> > > 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both > the > > >>>>>>> RFI and > > >>>>>>> > > eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation > form > > >>>>>>> (but not > > >>>>>>> > > directly on the main front end page with pending members, > to > > >>>>>>> keep that one > > >>>>>>> > > as clean as possible). This new system would dispense > Maryam > > >>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>> > > copy-pasting everything manually > > >>>>>>> > > 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled > > >>>>>>> out through > > >>>>>>> > > the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I > > >>>>>>> understand that it is > > >>>>>>> > > quite inconvenient when holding the elections. > > >>>>>>> > > 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI > > >>>>>>> term) > > >>>>>>> > > between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects > the > > >>>>>>> reality of > > >>>>>>> > > how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how > certain > > >>>>>>> individuals may > > >>>>>>> > > have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in > the > > >>>>>>> context of > > >>>>>>> > > elections. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or > another > > >>>>>>> vision of > > >>>>>>> > > our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the > > >>>>>>> call (who > > >>>>>>> > > knows ;)) > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 > > >>>>>>> and 5, so > > >>>>>>> > > that I understand correctly the problem and the desired > > >>>>>>> solution; I will be > > >>>>>>> > > in touch with you when the time comes. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Have a nice week! > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > Raphael > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Techteam mailing list > > >>>>>>> Techteam at lists.ncsg.is > > >>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/techteam > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Sat Apr 27 01:17:11 2019 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:17:11 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> <01fb81b6-16f1-b4eb-ab92-b6dbd318e05b@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Of course, I am sorry, he was talking about the RFIs...that might be useful indeed. for the volume though, really, we don't need to automate everything.... Thanks for the clarification. cheers steph On 2019-04-26 17:31, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix wrote: Hi Stephanie, I think Josh was using gmail as an example of client referring to the fact that whatever client we use, it would need to be configured so that CIVI can go and "fetch" information and display it in CIVI. In this instance, we're looking at RFIs sent by Maryam and replies to them. So no the "system" does not rely on gmail ;) And you seem to be referring to how we should get notice of apps piling up. This will normally be addressed first and is a matter of a few hours at most of development time, and unrelated to what Tapani was himself referring to. As for the cost, yes, it is expensive, but I suggest that we finish using the development blocks we have already paid for and then consider switching to someone else. Have a nice evening, On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:00 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC > wrote: I find this weird. If Tapani is correct, why on earth are we spending so much on a system that relies on Gmail? I am no geek as you all know, but it does seem to me that since I get all the applications when they come in, It ought to be within my limited powers of observation to notice when the apps have stacked up enough to nag the EC to take a look. Which is where we are today, I have done my homework, could the EC please get in there and review the pile so we can have a chat next week? Thanks. I will send a doodle for a call time shortly.... Steph On 2019-04-25 18:51, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: Hi all, The description sounds like they'd tie CiviCRM email setup to Gmail. Not everybody would be happy to be dependent on Google that way; indeed one key reason behind the entire project was to get rid of Google dependency. Not that it's my call to make now, just wanted to raise the point. I'm also somewhat confused as to why they'd want to do that, but then I'm not sure what that RFI tracking system is supposed to do. Somewhat guessing here, it may be it would be worthwhile to think about the possible mailing list migration at the same time, as it might make the Gmail hack here unnecessary as a side-effect or otherwise involve overlapping work. I could take a bit closer look at this when I return home next week and possibly attend another call with Wapix. Tapani On Apr 25 13:51, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) wrote: Hi all An update from Josh on point 3: *3) New system for tracking RFI's.* Unfortunately, CiviCRM no longer supports the old email to activity integration so we would need to develop this using custom code. If we use the simpler IMAP implementation (you have to set Gmail to allow less secure apps), you are looking at about 20 hours to integrate one Gmail inbox with CiviCRM activities. If you want that information not only copied into CiviCRM, but also included in the form for reviewers, it will require about an additional 10 hours. If you choose not to implement the additional form integration, you could still view the email exchange via activities on the CiviCRM contact record. *Please give me your thoughts on that and point 1 and 2 by Friday COB.* Thanks Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:49 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi just a bump on that so that I can go back to Josh from Wapix ASAP Thanks! On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all Follow up from Josh below. Let me think what you would prefer for 1) and what you think of 2) for peeps in the EC. Have a nice Easter (or just a nice Sunday!) *** 1) *Configure an automated email to EC members. *You have three options here. Configuring an email to remind all reviewers when there are pending membership applications will take about an hour. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application yet will take about 9 hours. Configuring an email to remind only those reviewers who have not reviewed the application and including a list in the email of the applications that have not been reviewed will take about 15 hours. 2) *Improve front end column layout.* We have implemented the new column structure here for your review. Several things to note: a) The backlink from the reviewers page has not yet been implemented b) There is apparently nothing to show for the SOI field on the organization membership page. Do you want something different on this page? c) Some of the hyperlinks are hard coded to the live site so you'll have to keep an eye on the URL when testing. If you like what you see here, we are looking at about 4 hours all together to get this implemented on live. On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:05 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all A quick update: The call went well today, Tapani (thanks again!) was there too to provide some info on points 3,4 and 5 and add #6 which is migrating the mailing lists and archives. Wapix will come back to us with an estimate which I will circulate for approval once I get it. Have a nice weekend, Raphael On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:42 PM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: FYI, in case : Postponed by 15 min from original schedule On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 19:34 Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi all Zoom link here for those who would be interested (1 pm EDT this Friday) https://zoom.us/j/9965095294 Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:50 AM Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix < rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote: Hi Tapani, Yes, the call will be taking place Friday at 1pm EDT. Just got a reply from Wapix a minute ago, so timely! I don't have the details yet but will share them here when I do Best, On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tapani Tarvainen via Techteam < techteam at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: Hi Rapha?l, Will you post the call time and details here when the time is fixed? I might join, depending on the time. Thanks, Tapani On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:49:13AM -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam (techteam at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: Hi both (and everyone else) Thanks for your comments. As for the complexity level of these issues, it is something that I will discuss with them before they start on anything. If the estimate for each is more than a few hours at most, that is something that would substantially deplete our remaining development blocks, I would come back here and ask for your input. Farrell, I don't think there is a "need" for you to join, but I did not mean this to be a secret call or anything, hence my invitation :) But yes I will report here after the call and also as the work progresses. Have a nice day, On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:35 AM Ekue Farell Folly < farell at benin2point0.org> wrote: Dear Raphael, Interesting and great job. I have no additional concerns. For a first meeting, I think that everything is covered. As far as being on the call is concerned, If you think that it might be useful (for NCSG representativity, for instance) I could join, otherwise; reading your minutes notes afterwards should be sufficient. Good luck. On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 19:05 -0400, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix via Techteam wrote: Dear all, I would like to schedule a call this week with Wapix in order to inform them of our priorities list with regards to the currently outstanding issues we have with our membership database and management software. We still have some development time to use. I would suggest moving forward with the following order of priorities: 1. Configuring an automated email reminder to EC members every two weeks when there are pending membership applications (let us say, every 2 weeks) 2. Cleaning the front end of useless information and changing what we have now into a four column layout: name, SOI, who (among EC folks) has not evaluated yet and an "evaluation" link to the form where we (EC folks) put our evaluation of the members. 3. A new system to track RFIs, so that we could see both the RFI and eventually the answer of that person in the evaluation form (but not directly on the main front end page with pending members, to keep that one as clean as possible). This new system would dispense Maryam of copy-pasting everything manually 4. Resolving a display issue when a voter's list is pulled out through the backend. This is entirely a backend thing, but I understand that it is quite inconvenient when holding the elections. 5. Ensuring that the current existing "relations" (a CIVI term) between "individual" and "organisation" contacts reflects the reality of how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC are actually structured (and how certain individuals may have several hats, etc.). This is especially important in the context of elections. Let me know if you have suggestions, comments, edits, or another vision of our priorities and if you would be interested in joining the call (who knows ;)) Maryam, I will probably need your assistance when we get to 4 and 5, so that I understand correctly the problem and the desired solution; I will be in touch with you when the time comes. Have a nice week! 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URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Sat Apr 27 03:40:02 2019 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 09:40:02 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG Techteam] Call with Wapix this week re priorities In-Reply-To: References: <20190409151736.GA3457@tarvainen.info> <20190425225132.GA32074@jay.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20190427004000.GA20040@jay.tarvainen.info> On Apr 26 17:36, Rapha?l Beauregard-Lacroix (rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com) wrote: > I could check with Josh, but I think he was either using gmail as an > example of a client, or assuming that we (or for this purpose, > Maryam) is using gmail. Ah. OK. > I think it is worthwhile to ask how "portable" their solution would be in > the event of a change of client for the person whose email is configured. It could be. > What we need with RFI tracking is a way to record, in civi, the RFI sent by > Maryam and the actual reply she receives, without having her copy/paste it. > This necessarily means some level of intrusion into the mailbox of the > person in charge of RFIs, although there are various ways this intrusion > can be fenced up, I presume. > > I'm not sure however how migrating the mailing list would solve problems > here given that these RFIs happen offlist. But I might be misunderstanding > you! Since the mailing list migration would involve setting up basic email tools, it could as a side-effect offer a solution or a part of one to this as well. A couple of possibilities: (1) Create an email account in our (CiviCRM) VM and use it for this purpose instead of anyone's gmail or other personal account. This would still involve coding to hook it up with CiviCRM, probably about as much as the gmail hookup. (2) Create a one-person (pseudo) mailing list, with Maryam (or other future RFI handler) as the only subscriber, where anyone can post but only select people (the EC) can view the archives, and send the RFIs with list address as the sender and Bcc:'d to the list. This would be pretty trivial once Mailman is up and running. Actually it could even be done with our current Mailman setup without involving CiviCRM at all. It would need some extra work to link the archive messages to the person in CiviCRM (to make it easier to find the tread relating to each). For Maryam either would involve using an email client that allows multiple identities (sender addresses), or using a separate client just for this purpose. But there'd be no hookup to her personal email and no problem in shifting the task to or sharing it with someone else. -- Tapani Tarvainen