From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 16:06:59 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 09:06:59 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farell as Arsene alternate
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Wondering if we should appoint Farell as the GNSO alternate to Arsene?

Let me know
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From plommer at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 17:34:27 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:34:27 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farell as Arsene alternate
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADirp9RJoEvGEeds_Hua66zi53bSzpjYvYp12tFHnMdLvnGUPw@mail.gmail.com>

Can't see why not, if we're otherwise lacking a councilor. If he can do
even half of the alternate's job, that is surely better than not doing any
- as long as he doesn't piss everyone off but I have no reason to suggest
that he would - on the contrary. :)

-Raoul

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 16:07, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Wondering if we should appoint Farell as the GNSO alternate to Arsene?
>
> Let me know
> --
> Farzaneh
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Mon Oct  8 18:12:59 2018
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 08:12:59 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farell as Arsene alternate
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1B44144-D9E9-441C-A693-16A0DC541634@ipjustice.org>

Yes, as I suggested on this list back on 24 Sept.
  https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-September/000533.html

Thanks,
Robin

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 6:06 AM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Wondering if we should appoint Farell as the GNSO alternate to Arsene? 
> 
> Let me know 
> -- 
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  8 18:17:16 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farell as Arsene alternate
In-Reply-To: <C1B44144-D9E9-441C-A693-16A0DC541634@ipjustice.org>
References: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <C1B44144-D9E9-441C-A693-16A0DC541634@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <871752863.901452.1539011836738@mail.yahoo.com>

Why not? I thought it was decided before when we discussed about?ICANN63 alternate, but if it is a temporary measure until Arsene's term, it's a big YES.?
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaMembership Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El lunes, 8 de octubre de 2018 10:13:10 a. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:  
 
 Yes, as I suggested on this list back on 24 Sept.? https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-September/000533.html
Thanks,Robin

On Oct 8, 2018, at 6:06 AM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
Hi?
Wondering if we should appoint Farell as the GNSO alternate to Arsene??
Let me know?-- 
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 18:26:04 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:26:04 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Farell as Arsene alternate
In-Reply-To: <871752863.901452.1539011836738@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAN1qJvCmpR9CdfQc95YckrewMvqnOK=jCBXrCaQ_NpAz88pdCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <C1B44144-D9E9-441C-A693-16A0DC541634@ipjustice.org>
 <871752863.901452.1539011836738@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvA7Qy_tiyi-ui8XZxe1EbtW-vhWHygTOYC=O2zERJPV-g@mail.gmail.com>

Well he had expressed readiness but council task is pretty heavy so
normally we send someone in with more experience if there is anyone
available. So I will just send off his name as Arsene alternate.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:17 AM Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Why not? I thought it was decided before when we discussed about ICANN63
> alternate, but if it is a temporary measure until Arsene's term, it's a big
> YES.
>
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns
> Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>
> Cel. +57 3017435600
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El lunes, 8 de octubre de 2018 10:13:10 a. m. GMT-5, Robin Gross via
> NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:
>
>
> Yes, as I suggested on this list back on 24 Sept.
>   https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-September/000533.html
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> On Oct 8, 2018, at 6:06 AM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Wondering if we should appoint Farell as the GNSO alternate to Arsene?
>
> Let me know
> --
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Oct  8 23:24:07 2018
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:24:07 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG ExCom Meeting at ICANN63
Message-ID: <ea359a1beea5484aa93cdabaedca8425@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.pexch112.icann.org>

Dear All,



Please join Farzaneh and Stephanie, for an informal NCSG ExCom meeting on Wednesday 25 October 2018, 16:00 - 17:00 local time in Room 124.


Please let me know if you are unable to make if for this time.


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Many thanks,



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ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers

S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  8 23:29:05 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:29:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG ExCom Meeting at ICANN63
In-Reply-To: <ea359a1beea5484aa93cdabaedca8425@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.pexch112.icann.org>
References: <ea359a1beea5484aa93cdabaedca8425@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.pexch112.icann.org>
Message-ID: <1750679938.1104201.1539030545117@mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Maryam,?Please confirm when will be the meeting because Wednesday is 24th and 25th is Thursday.?
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaMembership Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El lunes, 8 de octubre de 2018 3:24:16 p. m. GMT-5, Maryam Bakoshi via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:  
 
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Dear All,

 


 
Please join Farzaneh and Stephanie, for an informal NCSG ExCom meeting onWednesday 25 October 2018, 16:00 ? 17:00 local time in Room 124.

 

 
Please let me know if you are unable to make if for this time.

 

 
--

 
Many thanks,

 


 
Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator

 
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers

 
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann |T: +44 7846 471777

 


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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Oct  8 23:30:41 2018
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:30:41 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re:  NCSG ExCom Meeting at ICANN63
In-Reply-To: <1750679938.1104201.1539030545117@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <ea359a1beea5484aa93cdabaedca8425@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.pexch112.icann.org>
 <1750679938.1104201.1539030545117@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9C82AC6E-6FD9-4DF0-905B-0BB7BD597EB7@icann.org>

Dear Juan,

My apologies, it is Wednesday 24th October 2018.

--
Many thanks,

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


From: Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, 8 October 2018 at 21:29
To: NCSG EC <NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is>, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] NCSG ExCom Meeting at ICANN63

Dear Maryam,
Please confirm when will be the meeting because Wednesday is 24th and 25th is Thursday.

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Membership Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
Cluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes

Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter: @JmanuRojas [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.twitter.com_jmanurojas&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=Q_ZUEUaxIJfXEqdFWUIMWHrKygntzrtrJ9_4d_CkgyI&s=qFlMakzc-sxULHdgE3goxMw8V8ER7YjJ9SybSvG8mco&e=>







El lunes, 8 de octubre de 2018 3:24:16 p. m. GMT-5, Maryam Bakoshi via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> escribi?:



Dear All,



Please join Farzaneh and Stephanie, for an informal NCSG ExCom meeting on Wednesday 25 October 2018, 16:00 ? 17:00 local time in Room 124.

Please let me know if you are unable to make if for this time.

--

Many thanks,



Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator

ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers

S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777


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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 00:14:57 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:14:57 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
In-Reply-To: <249c1b37-6965-badc-406c-cf607d6ac8f5@mixmax.com>
References: <249c1b37-6965-badc-406c-cf607d6ac8f5@mixmax.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvChO-1nZgXx5GLdgeJGzC990Zr+yM_m4V+548V5HTZi-A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear NCSG members

Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google doc,
I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the
comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list
and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the
document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the
week.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>




These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval
guidelines at the Google Doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit

I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something concerning
until the end of the week.

Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.

Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below:



*2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
constituencies member? *

The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you are
a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*

Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
and made an example of ISOC chapters.


Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks
that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's
cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:


 For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain
registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply
for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the
noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not
directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
(RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
society, you are eligible to apply.
If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
and commercial rights



This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.



*3. How does the approval process work? *


Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added
his sentence.

Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
times also our constituencies have new members first before their
membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.

To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
constituencies.




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From robin at ipjustice.org  Fri Oct 12 23:12:57 2018
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:12:57 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-EC] pending NCSG membership applications
Message-ID: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>

I went through the pending membership applications, both individual and organizational.  NONE of my votes or comments saved in the database.  It looks we still have a non-functioning database.  Are others having a problem approving or commenting on applications?  It seemed to be working a month or so ago, but not now for me.  Thoughts?

Thanks,
Robin




From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 23:17:37 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:17:37 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] pending NCSG membership applications
In-Reply-To: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>
References: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvAouP4cm9v+p3Uve9QHELt7_2P-pL1nWeT4pTNYqsx1QQ@mail.gmail.com>

I will file a request. again.

Farzaneh


On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> I went through the pending membership applications, both individual and
> organizational.  NONE of my votes or comments saved in the database.  It
> looks we still have a non-functioning database.  Are others having a
> problem approving or commenting on applications?  It seemed to be working a
> month or so ago, but not now for me.  Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 23:22:15 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:22:15 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvChO-1nZgXx5GLdgeJGzC990Zr+yM_m4V+548V5HTZi-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <249c1b37-6965-badc-406c-cf607d6ac8f5@mixmax.com>
 <CAN1qJvChO-1nZgXx5GLdgeJGzC990Zr+yM_m4V+548V5HTZi-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvC7RAdd62ci1dFHCw90+_u_1pdKi2jdRmaXpnTe5cjaig@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like no one has any objections. For the avoidance of doubt I will
wait until beginning of next week before decalaring approval, I appreciate
if you could weigh in positively even if it's just saying you approve.

Google Doc is here:
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit>

Members questions and answers:





*2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
constituencies member?*

The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you are
a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*

Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
and made an example of ISOC chapters.


Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks
that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's
cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:


 For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain
registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply
for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the
noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not
directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
(RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
society, you are eligible to apply.
If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
and commercial rights



This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.



*3. How does the approval process work?*


Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added
his sentence.

Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
times also our constituencies have new members first before their
membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.

To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
constituencies.


Farzaneh


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:14 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear NCSG members
>
> Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google doc,
> I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the
> comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list
> and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the
> document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the
> week.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
> Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
> To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>
>
>
>
>
> These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval
> guidelines at the Google Doc:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
>
> I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something concerning
> until the end of the week.
>
> Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.
>
> Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below:
>
>
>
> *2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
> noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
> constituencies member? *
>
> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you
> are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
> Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
> the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*
>
> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
> and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
> ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
> chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
> and made an example of ISOC chapters.
>
>
> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks
> that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's
> cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:
>
>
>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of
> domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to
> apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate
> about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does
> not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
> (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
> society, you are eligible to apply.
> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
> and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
> commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
> constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
> is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
> and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
> property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
> and commercial rights
>
>
>
> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
> questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
> NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
> is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
> should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
> with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
> EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
>
>
>
> *3. How does the approval process work? *
>
>
> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I
> added his sentence.
>
> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
> times also our constituencies have new members first before their
> membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
> from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
>
> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
> become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
> without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
> compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
> constituencies.
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
> --
> Farzaneh
>
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From plommer at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 13:42:00 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:42:00 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-EC] pending NCSG membership applications
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAouP4cm9v+p3Uve9QHELt7_2P-pL1nWeT4pTNYqsx1QQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>
 <CAN1qJvAouP4cm9v+p3Uve9QHELt7_2P-pL1nWeT4pTNYqsx1QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADirp9R+9+kyRvvoj1wNcLg1X=B6Weiy22EtjLdhhEiXkhs1TA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Farzi and Robin. We can't get that new member registry soon enough.

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 23:18, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> I will file a request. again.
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> I went through the pending membership applications, both individual and
>> organizational.  NONE of my votes or comments saved in the database.  It
>> looks we still have a non-functioning database.  Are others having a
>> problem approving or commenting on applications?  It seemed to be working a
>> month or so ago, but not now for me.  Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 15:45:32 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:45:32 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] pending NCSG membership applications
In-Reply-To: <CADirp9R+9+kyRvvoj1wNcLg1X=B6Weiy22EtjLdhhEiXkhs1TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>
 <CAN1qJvAouP4cm9v+p3Uve9QHELt7_2P-pL1nWeT4pTNYqsx1QQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADirp9R+9+kyRvvoj1wNcLg1X=B6Weiy22EtjLdhhEiXkhs1TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvBiwn_QgKU2A+4nx_RHpumH_84BJQCo9PMRQ__zaMjnxg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Raoul

The fundamental problems been resolved and I have reported them. Its just
this bug which can be solved by filing a request. They are pretty fast in
resolving things and we can report five incidents every month. At the memt
we only have a couple of new members applications. When I am not the chair
anymore you need to talk to Juan and Joan who are on the tech team mailing
list where we are documenting all the resports etc.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 6:42 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Farzi and Robin. We can't get that new member registry soon enough.
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 23:18, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> I will file a request. again.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> I went through the pending membership applications, both individual and
>>> organizational.  NONE of my votes or comments saved in the database.  It
>>> looks we still have a non-functioning database.  Are others having a
>>> problem approving or commenting on applications?  It seemed to be working a
>>> month or so ago, but not now for me.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
> --
Farzaneh
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Mon Oct 15 05:10:47 2018
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:10:47 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvC7RAdd62ci1dFHCw90+_u_1pdKi2jdRmaXpnTe5cjaig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <249c1b37-6965-badc-406c-cf607d6ac8f5@mixmax.com>
 <CAN1qJvChO-1nZgXx5GLdgeJGzC990Zr+yM_m4V+548V5HTZi-A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1qJvC7RAdd62ci1dFHCw90+_u_1pdKi2jdRmaXpnTe5cjaig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14EF2934-6279-443E-84FD-B657762686D4@ipjustice.org>

Thanks Farzi.  I went through the document and made a few wording change suggestions, nothing substantive though.  Otherwise, it looks good to me.  Thanks.

Best,
Robin


> On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:22 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> Looks like no one has any objections. For the avoidance of doubt I will wait until beginning of next week before decalaring approval, I appreciate if you could weigh in positively even if it's just saying you approve. 
> 
> Google Doc is here:?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit>
> 
> Members questions and answers:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its constituencies member?
> 
> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply."
> 
> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified and made an example of ISOC chapters. 
> 
> 
> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:
> 
> 
>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply.
> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights and commercial rights
> 
> 
> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. How does the approval process work?
> 
> 
> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added his sentence.
> 
> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at times also our constituencies have new members first before their membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
> 
> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining constituencies. 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:14 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear NCSG members 
> 
> Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google doc, I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the week. 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
> Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
> To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu <mailto:ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval guidelines at the Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit>
> 
> I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something concerning until the end of the week. 
> 
> Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.
> 
> Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below: 
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its constituencies member?
> 
> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply."
> 
> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified and made an example of ISOC chapters. 
> 
> 
> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:
> 
> 
>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply.
> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights and commercial rights
> 
> 
> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. How does the approval process work?
> 
> 
> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added his sentence.
> 
> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at times also our constituencies have new members first before their membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
> 
> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining constituencies. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> -- 
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec

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From Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu  Mon Oct 15 08:17:37 2018
From: Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 05:17:37 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
In-Reply-To: <14EF2934-6279-443E-84FD-B657762686D4@ipjustice.org>
References: <249c1b37-6965-badc-406c-cf607d6ac8f5@mixmax.com>
 <CAN1qJvChO-1nZgXx5GLdgeJGzC990Zr+yM_m4V+548V5HTZi-A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1qJvC7RAdd62ci1dFHCw90+_u_1pdKi2jdRmaXpnTe5cjaig@mail.gmail.com>,
 <14EF2934-6279-443E-84FD-B657762686D4@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <HE1PR05MB33725E15DC065CF9F94D1832F6FD0@HE1PR05MB3372.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>


I approve, Frazi, thanks.


Kind regards,



Dr. Monika Zalnieriute



Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School |

The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I

185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I



Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I

Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I



Representative @ Executive Committee I

Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I










________________________________
From: NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 2:10 AM
To: farzaneh badii; NCSG EC
Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document

Thanks Farzi.  I went through the document and made a few wording change suggestions, nothing substantive though.  Otherwise, it looks good to me.  Thanks.

Best,
Robin


On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:22 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:

Looks like no one has any objections. For the avoidance of doubt I will wait until beginning of next week before decalaring approval, I appreciate if you could weigh in positively even if it's just saying you approve.

Google Doc is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>

Members questions and answers:





2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its constituencies member?

The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply."

Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified and made an example of ISOC chapters.


Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:


 For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply.
If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights and commercial rights


This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.



3. How does the approval process work?


Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added his sentence.

Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at times also our constituencies have new members first before their membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.

To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining constituencies.


Farzaneh


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:14 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear NCSG members

Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google doc, I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the week.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>>




These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval guidelines at the Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>

I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something concerning until the end of the week.

Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.

Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below:



2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its constituencies member?

The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply."

Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified and made an example of ISOC chapters.


Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:


 For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil society, you are eligible to apply.
If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights and commercial rights


This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.



3. How does the approval process work?


Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I added his sentence.

Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at times also our constituencies have new members first before their membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.

To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining constituencies.




Farzaneh

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From plommer at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 11:16:53 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:16:53 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
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I went through it as well and I think it's good to go.

-Raoul

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 08:17, Zalnieriute, Monika via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

>
> I approve, Frazi, thanks.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
>
>
>
> Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School |
>
> The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I
>
> 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I
>
>
>
> Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I
>
> Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I
>
>
>
> Representative @ Executive Committee I
>
> Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Robin Gross
> via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 2:10 AM
> *To:* farzaneh badii; NCSG EC
> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
>
> Thanks Farzi.  I went through the document and made a few wording change
> suggestions, nothing substantive though.  Otherwise, it looks good to me.
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Robin
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:22 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Looks like no one has any objections. For the avoidance of doubt I will
> wait until beginning of next week before decalaring approval, I appreciate
> if you could weigh in positively even if it's just saying you approve.
>
> Google Doc is here:
>  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Members questions and answers:
>
>
>
>
>
> *2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
> noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
> constituencies member?*
>
> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you
> are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
> Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
> the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*
>
> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
> and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
> ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
> chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
> and made an example of ISOC chapters.
>
>
> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks
> that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's
> cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:
>
>
>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of
> domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to
> apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate
> about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does
> not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
> (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
> society, you are eligible to apply.
> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
> and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
> commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
> constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
> is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
> and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
> property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
> and commercial rights
>
>
>
> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
> questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
> NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
> is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
> should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
> with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
> EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
>
>
>
> *3. How does the approval process work?*
>
>
> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I
> added his sentence.
>
> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
> times also our constituencies have new members first before their
> membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
> from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
>
> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
> become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
> without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
> compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
> constituencies.
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:14 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear NCSG members
>
> Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google doc,
> I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the
> comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list
> and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the
> document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the
> week.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *farzaneh badii* <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
> Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
> To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>
>
>
>
>
> These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval
> guidelines at the Google Doc:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>
>
> I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something concerning
> until the end of the week.
>
> Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.
>
> Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below:
>
>
>
> *2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
> noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
> constituencies member? *
>
> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you
> are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
> Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
> the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*
>
> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
> and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
> ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
> chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
> and made an example of ISOC chapters.
>
>
> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden thinks
> that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks it's
> cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads as:
>
>
>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of
> domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to
> apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate
> about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does
> not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
> (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
> society, you are eligible to apply.
> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
> and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
> commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
> constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
> is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
> and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
> property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
> and commercial rights
>
>
>
> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
> questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
> NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
> is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
> should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
> with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
> EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
>
>
>
> *3. How does the approval process work? *
>
>
> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I
> added his sentence.
>
> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
> times also our constituencies have new members first before their
> membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
> from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
>
> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
> become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
> without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
> compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
> constituencies.
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
> --
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 04:21:03 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:21:03 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN Travel Support for ICANN 64
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvAqPLgqkBarmA0f5KhoKv6bNu1014NHm_1scofV1At2xA@mail.gmail.com>

Please submit your NCSG EC rep name who will be traveling to Japan before
9th of November. I have Stephanie's name already.  Let me know if you
cannot meet the deadline.

Thanks



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From plommer at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 16:26:02 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:26:02 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN Travel Support for ICANN 64
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We had a chat with Juan and we're rotating these, so I'll be using the slot
for Kobe. Now I'm using CROP for ICANN 63.

-Raoul

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 04:21, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Please submit your NCSG EC rep name who will be traveling to Japan before
> 9th of November. I have Stephanie's name already.  Let me know if you
> cannot meet the deadline.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
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From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:43:45 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
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Thanks. This is approved and will be uploaded on our website as well as on
the application form.

Farzaneh


On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:16 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I went through it as well and I think it's good to go.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 08:17, Zalnieriute, Monika via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>>
>> I approve, Frazi, thanks.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
>>
>>
>>
>> Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School |
>>
>> The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I
>>
>> 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I
>>
>>
>>
>> Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I
>>
>> Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I
>>
>>
>>
>> Representative @ Executive Committee I
>>
>> Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Robin Gross
>> via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 2:10 AM
>> *To:* farzaneh badii; NCSG EC
>> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-EC] Membership Approval Process Document
>>
>> Thanks Farzi.  I went through the document and made a few wording change
>> suggestions, nothing substantive though.  Otherwise, it looks good to me.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:22 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like no one has any objections. For the avoidance of doubt I will
>> wait until beginning of next week before decalaring approval, I appreciate
>> if you could weigh in positively even if it's just saying you approve.
>>
>> Google Doc is here:
>>  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
>> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> Members questions and answers:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
>> noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
>> constituencies member?*
>>
>> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you
>> are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
>> Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
>> the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*
>>
>> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
>> and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
>> ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
>> chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
>> and made an example of ISOC chapters.
>>
>>
>> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden
>> thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks
>> it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads
>> as:
>>
>>
>>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of
>> domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to
>> apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate
>> about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does
>> not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
>> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
>> (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
>> society, you are eligible to apply.
>> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
>> and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
>> commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
>> constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
>> is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
>> and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
>> property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
>> and commercial rights
>>
>>
>>
>> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
>> questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
>> NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
>> is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
>> should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
>> with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
>> EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
>>
>>
>>
>> *3. How does the approval process work?*
>>
>>
>> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I
>> added his sentence.
>>
>> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
>> times also our constituencies have new members first before their
>> membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
>> from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
>>
>> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
>> become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
>> without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
>> compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
>> constituencies.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:14 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear NCSG members
>>
>> Please go through the membership approval process below in the Google
>> doc, I have tried to resolve the issues raised or provide answers to the
>> comments. The remaining issues which I highlighted in my email to the list
>> and responded to did not attract any response. please go through the
>> document and see if you can approve the document as is by the end of the
>> week.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *farzaneh badii* <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:07 PM
>> Subject: Membership Approval Process Document
>> To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> These are the comments that we have so far received on the approval
>> guidelines at the Google Doc:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE/edit
>> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1vb4a7KnsDwqQlKCMkQx2y8DlykYkT2z3ODxMweGcxTE%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cmonika.zalnieriute%40eui.eu%7Ccbd3616e4b574f77e36108d6324371e1%7Cd3f434ee643c409f94aa6db2f23545ce%7C0%7C0%7C636751662609108391&sdata=1IgFXQxDNJDQufoTuu5iQLEVFZPf5%2FI2OlOGRbZm16s%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> I am going to submit this to NCSG EC, unless you find something
>> concerning until the end of the week.
>>
>> Here is how I addressed the issues that were raised by the members.
>>
>> Question 2 and 3 received some substantive comments, see below:
>>
>>
>>
>> *2. Why is it essential for us that you protect and aim to advance the
>> noncommercial interest in domain name policy as an NCSG and its
>> constituencies member? *
>>
>> The text response had an example that members commented on :s: "*If you
>> are a member of At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large
>> Organizations (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest, part of
>> the civil society, you are eligible to apply."*
>>
>> Tapani made the point that if we mention RALOs then we mean ISOC chapters
>> and we should be clear. Zakir made the point that RALOs don't have to be
>> ISOC chapters. I agree wtih Zakir, this is not only related to ISOC
>> chapters and cover other organizations. But in a footnote I have clarified
>> and made an example of ISOC chapters.
>>
>>
>> Again questions 2 response was challenged by Ayden and Remmy. Ayden
>> thinks that we should delete the part that sets an example, Remmy thinks
>> it's cumbersome and if not reworded should be dropped. the paragraph reads
>> as:
>>
>>
>>  For example, if you have a company that uses WHOIS personal data of
>> domain registrants to provide software for others, you are not eligible to
>> apply for NCSG. If you do business in the digital realm but passionate
>> about the noncommercial aspects of DNS policy, as long as the company does
>> not directly relate to DNS, you can still apply. If you are a member of
>> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Regional At-Large Organizations
>> (RALOs), as long as you have noncommercial interest and , part of the civil
>> society, you are eligible to apply.
>> If you are protecting the brand owners interests over noncommercial users
>> and uses of DNS interests, you are not eligible to apply. You can join the
>> commercial stakeholder group, which has an intellectual property
>> constituency and a business constituency. Such criterion does not mean NCSG
>> is not intellectual property minded. We have intellectual property lawyers
>> and experts as our members, but their mission is to prevent intellectual
>> property overreach and have a balanced approach towards individual rights
>> and commercial rights
>>
>>
>>
>> This paragraph is specifically there to clarify and respond some of the
>> questions we have been receiving on whether RALO and ALAC members can join
>> NCSG or not. or what is it meant by non-commercial activities.  if someone
>> is carrying out some commercial activity, whether they can join. I think it
>> should be there since we keep getting asked this question and it is in line
>> with our practice. If there are no objections I will discuss this at NCSG
>> EC and we will see what the committee is going to decide.
>>
>>
>>
>> *3. How does the approval process work? *
>>
>>
>> Tapani suggests the approval process of constituencies to be added. I
>> added his sentence.
>>
>> Remmy has commented that: We shall not loose sight of the fact that at
>> times also our constituencies have new members first before their
>> membership of NCSG except if we are by this review barring Constituencies
>> from taking in members outside NCSG. Clarification please.
>>
>> To clarify for Remmy: Anyone that wants to join NPOC or NCUC has to first
>> become a member of NCSG - no one can become a member of NCUC nor NPOC
>> without being a member of NCSG. However, joining a constituency is not
>> compulsory and members can just be independent NCSG members without joining
>> constituencies.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>> --
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 23:12:29 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:12:29 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] pending NCSG membership applications
In-Reply-To: <CADirp9R+9+kyRvvoj1wNcLg1X=B6Weiy22EtjLdhhEiXkhs1TA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C5093F4A-05F6-4FB7-9A07-F7EBE632AE6A@ipjustice.org>
 <CAN1qJvAouP4cm9v+p3Uve9QHELt7_2P-pL1nWeT4pTNYqsx1QQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADirp9R+9+kyRvvoj1wNcLg1X=B6Weiy22EtjLdhhEiXkhs1TA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvDRiZO8fQimfTF5kSRgmX1UvpJzG1reHPROJTY1_G3Lhw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all



This problem was sorted out today and back to a month ago when it was
resolved. The only way to resolve issues is to monitor the system and
report them .  If you see issues, you should contact the chair, Maryam and
your rep on the tech team, they have access to all the materials and can
report problems. Fortunately, our system is rock solid now, with ways to
resolve issues fast, have monthly updates on the service and what needs to
be done. We won't lose data. We now need to start working on issues that
relate to UX and making the system more automatic and more accurate. The
problem we encountered was that apparently the front form was disconnected
from the backend form. So Robin's comments are all saved. So nothing
serious and she doesn't have to redo them.

 Please note that I have constantly been reporting a lot of issues to our
CIVI team (the company) and been reporting back to NCSG Tech Team. It is
very time consuming but I had to save the day as the chair.    I don't
think the future chair should be involved with the technical part of this,
it is overwhelmingly time consuming. I have also told the finance committee
that I am paying the service monthly subscription out of my pocket (around
550 USD) despite being reimbursed by ICANN almost on monthly basis I cannot
do this for long. It is essential for us to keep this service so someone
has to take responsibility for the payment and get reimbursed until NCSG
creates a bank account. The NCUC treasurer won't be doing it out of NCUC
funds (to be reimbursed by ICANN later), he said it will cause NCUC
trouble. ( this is what we did beforehand). So please ask the FC and
yourself to come up with a plan until January 2019 the latest.

Someone in the tech team is interested to help. But we need to give them
restricted access. I will train that person and hopefully, he can help but
essentially I think EC members should really step up and help with the
system but of course I don't think anyone would be willing to pay out of
pocket and be reimbursed later so you need to sort it out by Jan.

I also refreshed the new membership list because we had approved many
before but for some reason they remained on the list. So that is sorted.

 we only have two to approve: ANETIC' Niger association for emergency of
ICT",
Harsh Ghildiyal  ( this application only needs Monika and Juan approval the
rest of us treated them)

So all  should  go to the membership application evaluation, evaluate ANETIC


Juan and Moniak, please evaluate Harsh.


Farzaneh


On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 6:42 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Farzi and Robin. We can't get that new member registry soon enough.
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 23:18, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> I will file a request. again.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> I went through the pending membership applications, both individual and
>>> organizational.  NONE of my votes or comments saved in the database.  It
>>> looks we still have a non-functioning database.  Are others having a
>>> problem approving or commenting on applications?  It seemed to be working a
>>> month or so ago, but not now for me.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
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From robin at ipjustice.org  Wed Oct 17 19:17:57 2018
From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:17:57 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-EC] ICANN Travel Support for ICANN 64
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAqPLgqkBarmA0f5KhoKv6bNu1014NHm_1scofV1At2xA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAqPLgqkBarmA0f5KhoKv6bNu1014NHm_1scofV1At2xA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3BCF26E7-2C1E-47BF-B805-9A3F515FFAC3@ipjustice.org>

Thanks, Farzi.  Monika and I talked about it, and I will use the travel slot for Kobe, Japan.

Best,
Robin

> On Oct 15, 2018, at 6:21 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> Please submit your NCSG EC rep name who will be traveling to Japan before 9th of November. I have Stephanie's name already.  Let me know if you cannot meet the deadline.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec

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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Wed Oct 24 15:47:57 2018
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:57 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reminder: NCSG Excom Meeting at 4pm Room 124
Message-ID: <E85AB55B-AAAF-4322-B831-936CEA0E2B51@icann.org>

Dear All,

This is a gentle reminder that that NCSG ExCom will be meeting in Room 124 from 4-5 pm Barcelona time.

?
Many thanks,


Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777?
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 16:19:48 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:19:48 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reminder: NCSG Excom Meeting at 4pm Room 124
In-Reply-To: <E85AB55B-AAAF-4322-B831-936CEA0E2B51@icann.org>
References: <E85AB55B-AAAF-4322-B831-936CEA0E2B51@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvDgWS9A3MX9CGvf7oztAeZXsVkms8GvPg=SLyeACF7FJg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Maryam

See you everyone at 4. This will be an informal meeting to get to know
Stephanie, the new chair :)

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:48 PM Maryam Bakoshi via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> This is a gentle reminder that that NCSG ExCom will be meeting in Room 124
> from 4-5 pm Barcelona time.
>
> ?
> Many thanks,
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: ?+44 7846 471777?
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
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From plommer at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 16:35:55 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:35:55 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Reminder: NCSG Excom Meeting at 4pm Room 124
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvDgWS9A3MX9CGvf7oztAeZXsVkms8GvPg=SLyeACF7FJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E85AB55B-AAAF-4322-B831-936CEA0E2B51@icann.org>
 <CAN1qJvDgWS9A3MX9CGvf7oztAeZXsVkms8GvPg=SLyeACF7FJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADirp9QrJHRdbdGiY8BXQGj-8Qi-JJHtzSX091GvNVQX0VowDw@mail.gmail.com>

Roger that and see you soon!

ke 24. lokak. 2018 klo 15.20 farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> kirjoitti:

> Thanks Maryam
>
> See you everyone at 4. This will be an informal meeting to get to know
> Stephanie, the new chair :)
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:48 PM Maryam Bakoshi via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This is a gentle reminder that that NCSG ExCom will be meeting in Room
>> 124 from 4-5 pm Barcelona time.
>>
>> ?
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: ?+44 7846 471777?
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-EC mailing list
>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>>
> --
> Farzaneh
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-EC mailing list
> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 02:35:29 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:35:29 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Invitation - RSVP - ICANN Leadership Program (LP)
 2019
In-Reply-To: <D867BD2A-96A5-4736-B440-4ECE549AA339@icann.org>
References: <D867BD2A-96A5-4736-B440-4ECE549AA339@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvAcV6Xrd61zA88Ggh-9XkQb0v=E-cCRN398jXwrMnA4YQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Among the EC someone has to pick this task up. Note that what we did before
was to make a call to NCSG EC and NCSG PC and see who would be interested,.
Note that preferably current or incoming leaders should be recommended for
the program. we don't have a selection process for this normally when non
of the leaders in PC nor EC applied for it then the call went to the
general membership list with a deadline. If more than one leader is
interested, normally they discuss and one goes away in favor of the other
or becomes an alternate. I will send this call to PC as well  t since I am
not chair I will not get involved with setting deadlines and a lightweight
process like before. Please volunteer and take up this task.



The ICANN Academy Leadership Program (LP) during the ICANN61 Meeting in
Puerto Rico
<https://community.icann.org/display/LTP/2018+Leadership+Program> was
another success and we are now preparing the 6th edition that is scheduled
to take place 7-8 March 2019, two days prior to the official start of
ICANN64 in Kobe, Japan.



For this program, one (1) seat is reserved for a representative from the
NCSG. The program is designed for current *and *incoming leaders, helping
to increase understanding of the complexity of ICANN and to develop
facilitation skills, as well as building a network with other leaders. We
are aware that understanding ICANN as an organization, the topics discussed
within ICANN, and interaction within other stakeholder groups can
be  challenging for incoming leaders, but sometimes also for experienced
leaders. ICANN and the community are making considerable efforts in order
to help incoming leaders have a good start to their terms and to provide
current leaders the opportunity to strengthen their leadership and
facilitation skills. Opportunities for Leadership Program participants
include the following:



   - Meet leaders from the other SOs/ACs and get an insight of the
   functionality and issues in other groups
   - Discuss current  ICANN topics in an in-depth manner
   - Deepen the understanding of key ICANN processes
   - Develop facilitation and leadership skills, focused personal
   effectiveness to run meetings and foster processes



A preliminary program is attached to this email. Kindly note that this is
subject to change.

Accommodation for participants will be covered between Wednesday and
Thursday, 6-7 March 2019, and participants will receive a stipend. Please
note that flights will *NOT* be covered under this program, as incoming and
current leaders are normally covered by the regular ICANN travel support.
Please ensure that the leaders you select are being covered by ICANN Travel
Support for their flights to Kobe for ICANN64.



We would like to ask you to identify one incoming or current leader from
your stakeholder group who is interested and available to participate in
this program. We recommend that you also identify an alternate candidate.
Kindly forward us the names and email addresses of the endorsed individuals
no later than *Thursday, 8 November 2018*, and ask them to register here
<https://goo.gl/forms/HAInCnPEwsYRxKFs2> by 23:59 UTC on 8 November as well.



We hope this program will meet the needs of your community. All
participants will be encouraged to partake in an open exchange of their
views, as this will help facilitate cross-constituency collaboration during
their terms.



We are very happy to answer any questions you may have on this exciting LP
and look forward to having your group?s participants confirmed.



Kind regards,

Sandra Hoferichter, Chair of the ICANN Academy Working Group

Ergys Ramaj, VP, Public Responsibility Support
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 03:05:24 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:05:24 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Invitation - ICANN Chairing Skills Program (CSP)
 2019 - RSVP
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Here is another program (chair skill) which needs to be attended to but
it's not that urgent. I attended it and it was great. But I was lucky to
have a good mentor. Here I think again you need to ask among yourselves
(including PC) who should take the course. if no one available then an
incoming leader or someone actually active in PDPs should register. Note
that those who are actually going to Kobe should be selected.

Anyone who can volunteer to sort this one out would be great.






Dear Farzaneh,



Based on the success of the pilot Chairing Skills Program (CSP), we are now
preparing its second edition, to be held in 2019. The CSP addresses the
chairing skills challenges that ICANN community contributors can face when
taking up the responsibility of leading a working group or stakeholder
group.



The CSP is essentially a peer-coaching program. The target audience is new
ICANN Chairs that want to develop their chairing skills and wish to be
coached by their peers who have had previous experience as Chairs. Coaches
will work directly with the Chairs by observing them on calls and in
meetings, and providing specific feedback on how to be even more effective.
This allows for the Chairs learning to be timely and immediately
implementable.



The ICANN Academy Chairing Skills Program will be divided into two parts:

   1. Face-to-Face Chairing Skills
   2. Telephone Chairing Skills



The aim of dividing the course into two parts is to focus both on the
development of one skill at a time, as well as to incorporate feedback from
the first session into the second. The Face-to-Face Chairing Skills (Part
1) is planned to begin during ICANN64 in Kobe, Japan. The results of Part 1
will feed into the Telephone Chairing Skills (Part 2) that will continue
beyond ICANN64 until ICANN65. A professional external coach from Incite
Learning and community coaches will facilitate the course. Incite Learning
has been a regular contributor to the Leadership Program, which has been
held since 2013.



Full details of the CSP program, including the background, course program,
and the online registration form are available on the ICANN Academy
Chairing Skills Program Workspace
<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=62395123>.

If you or other current leaders from your stakeholder group are interested
and available to participate in this program, please register here
<https://goo.gl/forms/CVsQBoQh4Ow56ecG2> by *Friday, 21 December, 2018 at
23:59 UTC.*



As Chair of the ICANN Academy WG, I will be available to provide additional
information to your group during ICANN63 in Barcelona. Kindly let me know
if (and when) I can introduce both the Leadership Program (LP) and the
Chairing Skills Program (CSP) during one of your meetings. I will provide
information on both programs and answer any questions. It would not take
more than 5 min.



Kind regards,

Sandra Hoferichter, Chair of the ICANN Academy Working Group
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From plommer at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 11:59:33 2018
From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:59:33 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Invitation - ICANN Chairing Skills Program (CSP)
 2019 - RSVP
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I talked to Sandra and Joan and will apply for this from NPOC.

-Raoul

ti 30. lokak. 2018 klo 2.05 farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> kirjoitti:

>
> Here is another program (chair skill) which needs to be attended to but
> it's not that urgent. I attended it and it was great. But I was lucky to
> have a good mentor. Here I think again you need to ask among yourselves
> (including PC) who should take the course. if no one available then an
> incoming leader or someone actually active in PDPs should register. Note
> that those who are actually going to Kobe should be selected.
>
> Anyone who can volunteer to sort this one out would be great.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Farzaneh,
>
>
>
> Based on the success of the pilot Chairing Skills Program (CSP), we are
> now preparing its second edition, to be held in 2019. The CSP addresses the
> chairing skills challenges that ICANN community contributors can face when
> taking up the responsibility of leading a working group or stakeholder
> group.
>
>
>
> The CSP is essentially a peer-coaching program. The target audience is new
> ICANN Chairs that want to develop their chairing skills and wish to be
> coached by their peers who have had previous experience as Chairs. Coaches
> will work directly with the Chairs by observing them on calls and in
> meetings, and providing specific feedback on how to be even more effective.
> This allows for the Chairs learning to be timely and immediately
> implementable.
>
>
>
> The ICANN Academy Chairing Skills Program will be divided into two parts:
>
>    1. Face-to-Face Chairing Skills
>    2. Telephone Chairing Skills
>
>
>
> The aim of dividing the course into two parts is to focus both on the
> development of one skill at a time, as well as to incorporate feedback from
> the first session into the second. The Face-to-Face Chairing Skills (Part
> 1) is planned to begin during ICANN64 in Kobe, Japan. The results of Part 1
> will feed into the Telephone Chairing Skills (Part 2) that will continue
> beyond ICANN64 until ICANN65. A professional external coach from Incite
> Learning and community coaches will facilitate the course. Incite Learning
> has been a regular contributor to the Leadership Program, which has been
> held since 2013.
>
>
>
> Full details of the CSP program, including the background, course program,
> and the online registration form are available on the ICANN Academy
> Chairing Skills Program Workspace
> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=62395123>.
>
> If you or other current leaders from your stakeholder group are interested
> and available to participate in this program, please register here
> <https://goo.gl/forms/CVsQBoQh4Ow56ecG2> by *Friday, 21 December, 2018 at
> 23:59 UTC.*
>
>
>
> As Chair of the ICANN Academy WG, I will be available to provide
> additional information to your group during ICANN63 in Barcelona. Kindly
> let me know if (and when) I can introduce both the Leadership Program (LP)
> and the Chairing Skills Program (CSP) during one of your meetings. I will
> provide information on both programs and answer any questions. It would not
> take more than 5 min.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sandra Hoferichter, Chair of the ICANN Academy Working Group
>
>
>
>
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