From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Fri Feb 10 13:39:40 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:39:40 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Next meeting 24.2. at 2000 utc Message-ID: <20170210113939.GG3575@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Dear all, We need to have a meeting soon, as soon after Reykjavik as possible. I propose Friday 24 February at 2000 UTC (about the only viable time until DST changes). I hope at least most of you can make it. Agenda (so far): * Member applications * Terminating Consumers' Constituency candidate status * Constituency review (I'll have questionnaire draft ready before the meeting) * Council temporary alternate assignment (planning to issue a call for volunteers to ncsg-discuss soon) * AOB -- Tapani Tarvainen From pileleji at ymca.gm Fri Feb 10 14:00:48 2017 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 12:00:48 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Next meeting 24.2. at 2000 utc In-Reply-To: <20170210113939.GG3575@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20170210113939.GG3575@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Hello Tapani, Agreed we need it soonest, agenda fine with me Kind Regards Poncelet On 10 February 2017 at 11:39, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear all, > > We need to have a meeting soon, as soon after Reykjavik > as possible. I propose Friday 24 February at 2000 UTC > (about the only viable time until DST changes). > I hope at least most of you can make it. > > Agenda (so far): > > * Member applications > * Terminating Consumers' Constituency candidate status > * Constituency review (I'll have questionnaire draft ready > before the meeting) > * Council temporary alternate assignment (planning to > issue a call for volunteers to ncsg-discuss soon) > * AOB > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ www.waigf.org www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Fri Feb 10 18:06:23 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:06:23 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT Message-ID: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> Dear all, As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with care. So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* at this point. The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - preferably a few days before. Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on in the council. As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. Thank you, -- Tapani Tarvainen From joankerr at fbsc.org Fri Feb 10 18:41:15 2017 From: joankerr at fbsc.org (Joan Kerr) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:41:15 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT In-Reply-To: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> References: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi Tapani, All I support the appointment of Avri Doria for the 'next week' only. Avri brings a wealth of experience and would function well. Joan On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear all, > > As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need > to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. > > I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, > but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for > the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for > that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. > > I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until > Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with > care. > > So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just > for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can > land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. > > Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year > separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense > to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. > > So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* > at this point. > > The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - > preferably a few days before. > > Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in > Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, > and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on > in the council. > > As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. > > Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than > Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Fri Feb 10 21:26:09 2017 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:26:09 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT In-Reply-To: References: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: I agree with the temporary appointment of Avri to fill this slot on council. Thanks, Robin > On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Joan Kerr via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Hi Tapani, All > > I support the appointment of Avri Doria for the 'next week' only. Avri brings a wealth of experience and would function well. > > Joan > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC > wrote: > Dear all, > > As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need > to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. > > I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, > but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for > the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for > that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. > > I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until > Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with > care. > > So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just > for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can > land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. > > Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year > separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense > to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. > > So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* > at this point. > > The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - > preferably a few days before. > > Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in > Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, > and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on > in the council. > > As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. > > Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than > Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pileleji at ymca.gm Sat Feb 11 10:59:55 2017 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:59:55 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT In-Reply-To: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> References: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Morning Tapani, Flying out later today, I support Avri Doria. as she knows very well the issues and has the experiences too, so she can get the temp slot. I hope everyone agrees with this, so we move on-wards. Thank you Poncelet On 10 February 2017 at 16:06, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear all, > > As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need > to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. > > I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, > but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for > the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for > that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. > > I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until > Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with > care. > > So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just > for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can > land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. > > Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year > separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense > to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. > > So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* > at this point. > > The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - > preferably a few days before. > > Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in > Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, > and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on > in the council. > > As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. > > Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than > Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- Poncelet O. 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URL: From Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu Sun Feb 12 13:44:14 2017 From: Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:44:14 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT In-Reply-To: References: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info>, Message-ID: Dear Tapani, I also support Avri Doria for Amr's alternate:) Best wishes, Monika Kind regards, Dr. Monika Zalnieriute Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I Representative @ Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I ________________________________ From: NCSG-EC on behalf of Poncelet Ileleji via NCSG-EC Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:59:55 AM To: Tapani Tarvainen; ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT Morning Tapani, Flying out later today, I support Avri Doria. as she knows very well the issues and has the experiences too, so she can get the temp slot. I hope everyone agrees with this, so we move on-wards. Thank you Poncelet On 10 February 2017 at 16:06, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC > wrote: Dear all, As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with care. So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* at this point. The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - preferably a few days before. Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on in the council. As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. Thank you, -- Tapani Tarvainen _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. 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URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Sun Feb 12 14:20:59 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:20:59 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT In-Reply-To: References: <20170210160623.kztffaovbq4h7ctf@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170212122059.zrcu5mmxeplg6brx@tarvainen.info> Thank you Monika. With that we're unanimous, Avri will be Amr's temporary temporary alternate. :-) Note, unless someone objects I'm going to interpret "next week" as "until our next call", that is 24 February, so that she can remain on the council list until then. Tapani On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:44:14AM +0000, Zalnieriute, Monika (Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu) wrote: > Dear Tapani, > > I also support Avri Doria for Amr's alternate:) > > Best wishes, > > Monika > > > Kind regards, > > > > Dr. Monika Zalnieriute > > > > Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | > > The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I > > 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I > > > > Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I > > Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I > > > > Representative @ Executive Committee I > > Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: NCSG-EC on behalf of Poncelet Ileleji via NCSG-EC > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:59:55 AM > To: Tapani Tarvainen; ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is > Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Temp alt for council - URGENT > > Morning Tapani, > > Flying out later today, I support Avri Doria. as she knows very well the issues and has the experiences too, so she can get the temp slot. I hope everyone agrees with this, so we move on-wards. > > Thank you > > Poncelet > > > > On 10 February 2017 at 16:06, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC > wrote: > Dear all, > > As you know Amr resigned from the council this morning so we need > to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. > > I already put it on the agenda for our next meeting in two weeks, > but it turns out we can't wait that long: we need someone for > the council meeting next week. I'd thought of using a proxy for > that but it turns out it's not possible in this situation. > > I would not want to rush with this, Amr's term would've lasted until > Abu Dhabi, almost a year, so we should select his replacement with > care. > > So, under the circumstances I suggest we first appoint someone just > for next week's meeting, preferably someone experienced who can > land running as it were, without a call if we can agree on the list. > > Then we can consider the appointment for the rest of the year > separately on our call on the 24th. For that it might make sense > to look for new blood as it were, as there'd be time to learn. > > So, I'm calling for suggestions for temp alt *for next week only* > at this point. > > The council meeting is on the 16th, so we need to decide before then - > preferably a few days before. > > Given that most of our councillors (indeed all but Rafik) will be in > Reykjavik then it'd make sense to appoint someone who's there as well, > and preferably someone experienced and up to date on what's going on > in the council. > > As time is short, I'll make a suggestion right away: Avri Doria. > > Please reply quickly. Preferably by Monday, but no later than > Wednesday in any case - the council meeting is on Thursday. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > -- > Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS > Coordinator > The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio > MDI Road Kanifing South > P. O. Box 421 Banjul > The Gambia, West Africa > Tel: (220) 4370240 > Fax:(220) 4390793 > Cell:(220) 9912508 > Skype: pons_utd > www.ymca.gm > http://jokkolabs.net/en/ > www.waigf.org > www,insistglobal.com > www.npoc.org > http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 > www.diplointernetgovernance.org From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Mon Feb 13 12:30:49 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 12:30:49 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] temporary alternate appointments Message-ID: <20170213103048.ieoklgnizl6rsqft@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear all, As you know we have a temporary alternate appointment on our meeting agenda on Feb 24. It turns out we may have more than one councillor to replace. (Not confirmed yet so I won't give names at this point.) But, whether one or more, I think it would be appropriate to issue a call for volunteers on ncsg-discuss. If someone thinks it would not be a good idea and would prefer some alternative way of moving forward, I'm open to suggestions. -- Tapani Tarvainen From pileleji at ymca.gm Mon Feb 13 12:58:58 2017 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:58:58 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] temporary alternate appointments In-Reply-To: <20170213103048.ieoklgnizl6rsqft@roller.tarvainen.info> References: <20170213103048.ieoklgnizl6rsqft@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Dear Tapani, Thanks for the update, I will say seems we losing some folks indirectly or directly due to other engagements or career move. I think a call is good for volunteers, but we should emphasis on the call those should be members who will stay committed for the said period. So you don't get people that have applied for a position and taken an assignment waiting in case it happens or not. Thanks On 13 February 2017 at 11:30, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Dear all, > > As you know we have a temporary alternate appointment on our meeting > agenda on Feb 24. > > It turns out we may have more than one councillor to replace. > > (Not confirmed yet so I won't give names at this point.) > > But, whether one or more, I think it would be appropriate to issue a > call for volunteers on ncsg-discuss. If someone thinks it would not be > a good idea and would prefer some alternative way of moving forward, > I'm open to suggestions. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ www.waigf.org www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Mon Feb 13 13:02:45 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:02:45 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] temporary alternate appointments In-Reply-To: References: <20170213103048.ieoklgnizl6rsqft@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170213110245.eyzogec5pwaz6vqm@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear Poncelet, You make a good point: I would definitely make it clear it's a non-trivial commitment, and that we'll prefer people who've already been active. Tapani On Feb 13 11:58, Poncelet Ileleji (pileleji at ymca.gm) wrote: > Dear Tapani, > > Thanks for the update, I will say seems we losing some folks indirectly or > directly due to other engagements or career move. I think a call is good > for volunteers, but we should emphasis on the call those should be members > who will stay committed for the said period. So you don't get people that > have applied for a position and taken an assignment waiting in case it > happens or not. > > Thanks > > On 13 February 2017 at 11:30, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < > ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > As you know we have a temporary alternate appointment on our meeting > > agenda on Feb 24. > > > > It turns out we may have more than one councillor to replace. > > > > (Not confirmed yet so I won't give names at this point.) > > > > But, whether one or more, I think it would be appropriate to issue a > > call for volunteers on ncsg-discuss. If someone thinks it would not be > > a good idea and would prefer some alternative way of moving forward, > > I'm open to suggestions. > > > > -- > > Tapani Tarvainen > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-EC mailing list > > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > > > > > > -- > Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS > Coordinator > The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio > MDI Road Kanifing South > P. O. Box 421 Banjul > The Gambia, West Africa > Tel: (220) 4370240 > Fax:(220) 4390793 > Cell:(220) 9912508 > Skype: pons_utd > > > > > > > *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ > www.waigf.org > www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org > http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 > *www.diplointernetgovernance.org From robin at ipjustice.org Mon Feb 13 21:58:43 2017 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:58:43 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-EC] temporary alternate appointments In-Reply-To: <20170213110245.eyzogec5pwaz6vqm@roller.tarvainen.info> References: <20170213103048.ieoklgnizl6rsqft@roller.tarvainen.info> <20170213110245.eyzogec5pwaz6vqm@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <46F41AF1-7009-414D-B453-5862C37D42B5@ipjustice.org> I agree with sending the call to the list and making clear the position is A LOT of work and requires a working knowledge of GNSO and NCSG policy development activities. Not the right place for someone who?s never participated in an ICANN working group unless they can clearly demonstrate that they can get up to speed immediately. Thanks, Robin > On Feb 13, 2017, at 3:02 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC wrote: > > Dear Poncelet, > > You make a good point: I would definitely make it clear it's > a non-trivial commitment, and that we'll prefer people who've > already been active. > > Tapani > > On Feb 13 11:58, Poncelet Ileleji (pileleji at ymca.gm) wrote: > >> Dear Tapani, >> >> Thanks for the update, I will say seems we losing some folks indirectly or >> directly due to other engagements or career move. I think a call is good >> for volunteers, but we should emphasis on the call those should be members >> who will stay committed for the said period. So you don't get people that >> have applied for a position and taken an assignment waiting in case it >> happens or not. >> >> Thanks >> >> On 13 February 2017 at 11:30, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC < >> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> As you know we have a temporary alternate appointment on our meeting >>> agenda on Feb 24. >>> >>> It turns out we may have more than one councillor to replace. >>> >>> (Not confirmed yet so I won't give names at this point.) >>> >>> But, whether one or more, I think it would be appropriate to issue a >>> call for volunteers on ncsg-discuss. If someone thinks it would not be >>> a good idea and would prefer some alternative way of moving forward, >>> I'm open to suggestions. >>> >>> -- >>> Tapani Tarvainen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-EC mailing list >>> NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS >> Coordinator >> The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio >> MDI Road Kanifing South >> P. O. Box 421 Banjul >> The Gambia, West Africa >> Tel: (220) 4370240 >> Fax:(220) 4390793 >> Cell:(220) 9912508 >> Skype: pons_utd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ >> www.waigf.org >> www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org >> http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 >> *www.diplointernetgovernance.org > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Feb 16 15:18:59 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:18:59 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement Message-ID: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear all, In preparation for our meeting next week, I trust you've read the thread in ncsg-discuss following my call for volunteers. Without going into names now, looking at GNSO operating procedures: "3.8.3 Vacancies a. In the event of a GNSO Council member resignation or other permanent vacancy, the Bylaws call for replacement according Article X, Section 3(3). b. During any transition period following the occurrence of the permanent vacancy, but before a new election or appointment and subsequent seating of the replacement Councilor, the remedy in Paragraph 3.8.4 is available. 3.8.4 Remedy: Temporary Alternate a. For a Councilor who is not appointed by the Nominating Committee, the appointing organization may, at its discretion, name a Temporary Alternate to serve in the absent or vacant Councilor?s seat." So we can appoint someone as temporary alternate until Copenhagen and someone else as permanent replacement after that until Abu Dhabi, if we so choose. -- Tapani Tarvainen From Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu Fri Feb 17 03:13:00 2017 From: Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 01:13:00 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement In-Reply-To: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> References: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Dear Tapani, Thank You so very much for this. Does this mean we appoint Avri for now, and then we need to find and appoint another person to work after Copenhagen? best, Monika Kind regards, Dr. Monika Zalnieriute Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I Representative @ Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I ________________________________ From: NCSG-EC on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:18 PM To: ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement Dear all, In preparation for our meeting next week, I trust you've read the thread in ncsg-discuss following my call for volunteers. Without going into names now, looking at GNSO operating procedures: "3.8.3 Vacancies a. In the event of a GNSO Council member resignation or other permanent vacancy, the Bylaws call for replacement according Article X, Section 3(3). b. During any transition period following the occurrence of the permanent vacancy, but before a new election or appointment and subsequent seating of the replacement Councilor, the remedy in Paragraph 3.8.4 is available. 3.8.4 Remedy: Temporary Alternate a. For a Councilor who is not appointed by the Nominating Committee, the appointing organization may, at its discretion, name a Temporary Alternate to serve in the absent or vacant Councilor?s seat." So we can appoint someone as temporary alternate until Copenhagen and someone else as permanent replacement after that until Abu Dhabi, if we so choose. -- Tapani Tarvainen _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Fri Feb 17 10:40:09 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:40:09 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement In-Reply-To: References: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170217084008.qe3lrgy7kxyqii5x@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear Monika, No - it means we _could_ do that, but we can also appoint Avri (or rather extend her temporary alternate appointment) until Copenhagen and at the same time appoint someone to take over after that. But there may be other options - I gave people a week to volunteer, that is until next Wednesday, and we'll only make the decision in our meeting on the 24th. I'm just exploring options here so as to give us more time to prepare for it. Tapani On Feb 17 01:13, Zalnieriute, Monika (Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu) wrote: > Dear Tapani, > > > Thank You so very much for this. Does this mean we appoint Avri for now, and then we need to find and appoint another person to work after Copenhagen? > > best, > > > Monika > > > Kind regards, > > > > Dr. Monika Zalnieriute > > > > Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | > > The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I > > 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I > > > > Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I > > Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I > > > > Representative @ Executive Committee I > > Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: NCSG-EC on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:18 PM > To: ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is > Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement > > Dear all, > > In preparation for our meeting next week, I trust you've read the > thread in ncsg-discuss following my call for volunteers. Without going > into names now, looking at GNSO operating procedures: > > "3.8.3 Vacancies > > a. In the event of a GNSO Council member resignation or > other permanent vacancy, the Bylaws call for replacement according > Article X, Section 3(3). > > b. During any transition period following the occurrence of the > permanent vacancy, but before a new election or appointment and > subsequent seating of the replacement Councilor, the remedy in > Paragraph 3.8.4 is available. > > 3.8.4 Remedy: Temporary Alternate > > a. For a Councilor who is not appointed by the Nominating Committee, > the appointing organization may, at its discretion, name a Temporary > Alternate to serve in the absent or vacant Councilor?s seat." > > So we can appoint someone as temporary alternate until Copenhagen > and someone else as permanent replacement after that until Abu Dhabi, > if we so choose. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen From Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu Sun Feb 19 13:57:20 2017 From: Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:57:20 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor In-Reply-To: References: <20170215075704.wbnui7bib2ff5pt3@roller.tarvainen.info> , Message-ID: Dear Tatiana, Thank You very much for this e-mail. It is great to see You are applying for the GNSO council replacement! Just to make sure that everyone understands the situation similarly: You are willing to serve from whenever needed (when Avri steps down) until the end of the term? Thank You once again, Tatiana, this is great news! Kind regards, Dr. Monika Zalnieriute Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I Representative @ Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I ________________________________ From: Tatiana Tropina Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 10:35 AM To: Tapani Tarvainen; Robin Gross; Zalnieriute, Monika; ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is Cc: avri doria Subject: Fwd: Call for volunteers: alternate councillor Dear Tapani, dear NCSG EC, I am forwarding this email, which I sent to Tapani off-list, to make sure, that my application as a volunteer for GNSO council replacement is not getting lost while Tapani is travelling. I want to ensure that it gets properly communicated to NCSG EC. I applied on 15th of February by sending an email (below) to Tapani off-list. Nothing in the call for volunteers indicated that one has to apply via NCSG list and this was confirmed by Tapani when I asked in person in Reykjavik. As a volunteer, I can also step after Copenhagen, if Avri's temporary appointment to Copenhagen is extended (I consider this extension to be a good solution). I am not applying publicly on the list because I have no desire to collect +1s. I have my expertise and skills to offer for this position and I am ready to work hard. So I would appreciate if you consider me as one of the candidates. Warm regards Tatiana ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tatiana Tropina > Date: 15 February 2017 at 09:46 Subject: Re: Call for volunteers: alternate councillor To: Tapani Tarvainen > Tapani, I can volunteer for this. I think Avri is certainly the better option for replacement and she is the replacement now, but if this doesn't work anyhow, I am ready to step in if necessary. Cheers Tanya On 15 February 2017 at 08:57, Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: Dear all, As Amr Elsadr resigned from the council upon joining the staff, the NCSG Executive Committee needs to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. If you are interested in the job, please let me know as soon as possible, but no later than Wednesday February 22 (one week from now). The appointment is on the agenda of EC meeting on February 24, and we'd want to have list of names at least two days in advance so we'll have time to review them. Please explain why you think you'd be good for the task and confirm you could commit to the time it takes. Jumping in to the council mid-term is not easy, so experience is one key criteria for the EC in considering the appointment. The term extends until ICANN60 in the fall in Abu Dhabi, although the appointment can be made for a shorter time if the EC so chooses. If this makes a difference for you, for example if you'd only be able to do shorter time, or if you would not be interested in a shorter appointment, let us know that, too. Thank you, -- Tapani Tarvainen The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu Sun Feb 19 14:06:09 2017 From: Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:06:09 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor In-Reply-To: References: <20170215075704.wbnui7bib2ff5pt3@roller.tarvainen.info> , , Message-ID: Dear Tatiana, Thanks once again for sending this through, as Your application was not known to EC before this e-mail, because when asked what candidates do we have, the Chair replied to EC: 'As of now the only candidate we have besides Avri and Martin is Carlos Gutierrez. (I just realized he only wrote to me, not to the list.) Tatiana also told me when I asked that she might be available if Avri pulls out for some reason but not otherwise, and she did not reply to my call on the list.' So it is great that You send this, cause otherwise Your application would have been lost, We will consider it this upcoming call on the 24th Feb, Kind regards, Dr. Monika Zalnieriute Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I Representative @ Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I ________________________________ From: NCSG-EC on behalf of Zalnieriute, Monika via NCSG-EC Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 11:57 AM To: Tatiana Tropina; Tapani Tarvainen; Robin Gross; ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is Cc: avri doria Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Call for volunteers: alternate councillor Dear Tatiana, Thank You very much for this e-mail. It is great to see You are applying for the GNSO council replacement! Just to make sure that everyone understands the situation similarly: You are willing to serve from whenever needed (when Avri steps down) until the end of the term? Thank You once again, Tatiana, this is great news! Kind regards, Dr. Monika Zalnieriute Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I Representative @ Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I ________________________________ From: Tatiana Tropina Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 10:35 AM To: Tapani Tarvainen; Robin Gross; Zalnieriute, Monika; ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is Cc: avri doria Subject: Fwd: Call for volunteers: alternate councillor Dear Tapani, dear NCSG EC, I am forwarding this email, which I sent to Tapani off-list, to make sure, that my application as a volunteer for GNSO council replacement is not getting lost while Tapani is travelling. I want to ensure that it gets properly communicated to NCSG EC. I applied on 15th of February by sending an email (below) to Tapani off-list. Nothing in the call for volunteers indicated that one has to apply via NCSG list and this was confirmed by Tapani when I asked in person in Reykjavik. As a volunteer, I can also step after Copenhagen, if Avri's temporary appointment to Copenhagen is extended (I consider this extension to be a good solution). I am not applying publicly on the list because I have no desire to collect +1s. I have my expertise and skills to offer for this position and I am ready to work hard. So I would appreciate if you consider me as one of the candidates. Warm regards Tatiana ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tatiana Tropina > Date: 15 February 2017 at 09:46 Subject: Re: Call for volunteers: alternate councillor To: Tapani Tarvainen > Tapani, I can volunteer for this. I think Avri is certainly the better option for replacement and she is the replacement now, but if this doesn't work anyhow, I am ready to step in if necessary. Cheers Tanya On 15 February 2017 at 08:57, Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: Dear all, As Amr Elsadr resigned from the council upon joining the staff, the NCSG Executive Committee needs to appoint a temporary alternate to replace him. If you are interested in the job, please let me know as soon as possible, but no later than Wednesday February 22 (one week from now). The appointment is on the agenda of EC meeting on February 24, and we'd want to have list of names at least two days in advance so we'll have time to review them. Please explain why you think you'd be good for the task and confirm you could commit to the time it takes. Jumping in to the council mid-term is not easy, so experience is one key criteria for the EC in considering the appointment. The term extends until ICANN60 in the fall in Abu Dhabi, although the appointment can be made for a shorter time if the EC so chooses. 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Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 12:56:24 2017 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:56:24 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board seat election. First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended intersessional? We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points such as having vote, NCA participation and so on. I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our expectations. There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end of this week but we do need to be ready. Best, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Greg Shatan" Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process To: Cc: All, We probably need a different mailing list to finish working on the Board Seat selection process, and a small group to do it, but I'll start here, since I think this is the only active mailing list with both sides of the NCPH on it. We basically have no time to work this out, and we've already started the process without knowing what it is exactly, since we have now received nominations. In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously circulated, I'm also attaching the following for consideration: 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG representatives outlining a potential draft process. 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). A few thoughts and comments: A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to go through). Talk about building the airplane in the air. B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to the timeline, but did not come to any decisions. It's not clear to me whether Staff is preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we should put out a call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would be nice to know the end of the nomination period). D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH bullet-points are significantly different when it comes to voting. E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly as possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we don't need to use this process as precedent for any future process. We just need to get through this selection. One approach is for NCSG to respond to the draft sent at the end of the Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and the bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect session ASAP to move the ball forward. Thanks for reading, Greg P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline for naming the Director was changed from one month to two months (briefly) and then six months prior to being seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in any event, since the Bylaws references are now obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error. B. Since we are doing this with very little time *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 S: gsshatan Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 gregshatanipc at gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Greg Shatan Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants, The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed interim Board Selection Process based closely on the Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House. Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing changes from the CPH document. A Google Docs version can be found here, where any suggested changes can be added in "suggest" mode (but everyone has "edit" rights): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPp nL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat process and then revisit afterward before making it a permanent rather than "interim" process. This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion on this basis, given the short amount of time we have for this year. We look forward to your thoughts. Thanks! 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Many thanks, -- Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat ?Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Mobile: +44 7737 698036 Skype: maryam.bakoshi.icann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 7780 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Mon Feb 20 23:29:28 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:29:28 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Constituency review notes Message-ID: <20170220212924.64a5aemgufrhllbd@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear all, One item we have on the agenda on Friday is the constituency review. As we discussed last time, I am drafting a questionnaire to be sent to constituency chairs, and I will post it here before the meeting, but here's some discussion and background info you may wish to comment on already. The review is described in section 2.3.3 of our Charter. There are a few small bugs in the text, but the intent is obvious enough that they should not cause us any problems. Below is the text with my comments in between: "2.3.3 Constituency review for maintaining Recognition The NCSG-EC will be responsible for the periodic review of all Constituencies in accordance with the review criteria set forth by the Board of Directors. In the absence of any review criteria from the Board, the NCSG-EC will perform a review of all Constituencies every 2 years to determine if any recommendation will be made to Board regarding a change in status of any Constituency." So the purpose is to verify how well our constituencies meet the criteria set out in the charter, and possibly recommend to the board that some constituency's status be changed. The text does not explicitly address candidate constituencies, but we already have our only candidate constituency's status as a separate item on the meeting agenda, and I'll address that in another message. The review should be done every two years. It hasn't been done yet, but I think we can use that as the time we'll ask about. That is, the period we'd ask about would be last two years, or maybe since the beginning of 2015 until today. "This review will consider:" The criteria we must review are explicitly listed: "1. Constituencies must still have a defined noncommercial purpose and still meet the criteria established n section 2.3.1;" Besides the lonely "n" obviously meaning "in", there's an obvious error in the reference, as 2.3.1 talks about participation rights of candidate constituencies. I assume the intended meaning is the second (unnumbered) paragraph in section 2.3: "A group forming a Constituency should have a common interest or background, i.e. be homogeneous with respect to some dimension of relevance to ICANN and to the NCSG. Its focus must be sufficiently defined and have substantive relevance within both the ICANN and the NCSG context and with respect to its core mission. All members of the group should already either be members of the NCSG or be qualified for membership under the rules established in section 2.2 on Membership." So we must ask the constituencies for their defined purpose (which presumably will be in their bylaws) and a description of the group and its focus and substantive relevance to ICANN and NCSG. We should also ask for confirmation that their members are NCSG members. I read the "or be qualified..." part to be relevant only for new groups aspiring to become constituencies - feel free to suggest other interpretations. "2. Constituencies must have maintained a dynamic publicly archived discussion list;" This is easy: let's just ask for link to the list archive. "3. Constituencies must have participated actively in relevant NCSG and GNSO Policy Development Process Working Groups or Work Teams;" This is fairly clear as well, although the level of detail we should ask is debatable. I would suggest asking for a list of working groups, at least the number but possibly also names of people who've been in them and if any of them have been chairs or co-chairs. If you think we should ask for more details, suggestions welcome. "4. Constituencies must have participated actively in submitting comments and other policy statements to the NCSG and to the GNSO; and" Here I'll suggest asking for a list of public comments and other policy statements submitted: it should be easy enough to compile and be more informative than mere number. "5. Constituencies must have at least 10 participants who sign on to an updated SOI for maintaining recognized status as a Constituency." All we really need is a number here, but I guess we should ask for a list of names so we can verify them. Finally, 2.3.3 ends with "Any Recognized Constituency that loses that recognition may file a new petition in accordance with the Process for Recognition of New Constituencies." This does not matter much at this point (although we should keep it in the back of our minds that theoretically the review could result in this). We should also have an idea of how we'll evaluate the replies. For the first item, purpose, focus &c, it's pretty impossible to write down complete, definite criteria, although we could try to come up with something a bit more explicit than the charter text itself. Mailing list archive and number of people with SOIs are explicit enough, though should a constituency fail in either I suggest we'll simply tell then to fix it within X weeks or something like that. For the activity questions we could try to come up with more explicit criteria, a minimum for number of WGs or participants in them and a minimum number of public comments per year or something like that, but especially given that this is the first ever constituency review for us, I suggest we'll leave it open and discuss it when we get replies. We could then try to come up with suggested criteria or goals for next review, however. In general, I think our aim at this time would not be seriously considering change of status of either constituency, but evaluating their performance and setting criteria for that possibility in the future. With that in mind, besides asking for current status, we should ask for plans for improvement, especially in areas that seem to need it, and whether we, NCSG EC, could be of assistance. Another thing we must consider is the timeline. I'm thinking something like a month or two to reply to the questionnaire, another month for possible follow-up questions should we feel some replies require clarification, and one more month for us to make our conclusions. That way we should be able to complete the process by time of the Johannesburg meeting. Comments welcome. -- Tapani Tarvainen From mshears at cdt.org Tue Feb 21 12:13:55 2017 From: mshears at cdt.org (matthew shears) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:13:55 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Rafik Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and we are running out of time. First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was not really discussed further. Then we had some general discussion about the need to do something on the Board selection process. People voiced their views on different aspects of the process and there was concern over the timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others please jump in as I may have missed some important aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in the role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG proposal for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal. I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at least the initial stages of the process are underway. Matthew On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board seat > election. > First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not agreed on > iceland on that regard from those who attended intersessional? > > We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points such as > having vote, NCA participation and so on. > > I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our expectations. > There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end of this > week but we do need to be ready. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Greg Shatan" > > Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process > To: > > Cc: > > All, > > We probably need a different mailing list to finish working on the > Board Seat selection process, and a small group to do it, but I'll > start here, since I think this is the only active mailing list > with both sides of the NCPH on it. > > We basically have no time to work this out, and we've already > started the process without knowing what it is exactly, since we > have now received nominations. > > In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously > circulated, I'm also attaching the following for consideration: > > 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG > representatives outlining a potential draft process. > 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised > draft timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and GNSO > Procedures. > 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which > covers the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the extent that > is covered in the Bylaws), and Section 11.3(h), which is referred > to in Section 11.3(f). > > A few thoughts and comments: > > A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a > process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to go > through). Talk about building the airplane in the air. > > B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to > the timeline, but did not come to any decisions. It's not clear > to me whether Staff is preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. > > C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we should put > out a call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would be nice > to know the end of the nomination period). > > D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH > bullet-points are significantly different when it comes to voting. > > E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly > as possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we don't need to > use this process as precedent for any future process. We just > need to get through this selection. One approach is for NCSG to > respond to the draft sent at the end of the Intersessional. > However, given the gap between that and the bullet-points, it > might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect session ASAP > to move the ball forward. > > Thanks for reading, > > Greg > > P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but > nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were > never updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline for naming the > Director was changed from one month to two months (briefly) and > then six months prior to being seated. (The GNSO Procedures will > need to be updated in any event, since the Bylaws references are > now obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error. > > B. Since we are doing this with very little time > > > > > *Greg Shatan > *C: 917-816-6428 > S: gsshatan > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 > gregshatanipc at gmail.com > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Greg Shatan* > > Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM > Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process > To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org > > > > NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants, > > The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed interim Board > Selection Process based closely on the Final Process adopted by > the Contracted Parties House. Clean and marked drafts are > attached, showing changes from the CPH document. > > A Google Docs version can be found here, where any suggested > changes can be added in "suggest" mode (but everyone has "edit" > rights): > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing > > > We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat process > and then revisit afterward before making it a permanent rather > than "interim" process. > > This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC and > ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion on this basis, given > the short amount of time we have for this year. > > We look forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks! > > Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) > > *Greg Shatan > *C: 917-816-6428 > S: gsshatan > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 > gregshatanipc at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ncph-intersessional2017 mailing list > Ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org > > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncph-intersessional2017 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- ------------ Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 04:27:18 2017 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:27:18 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Matt, thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this topic. I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the process and adjust the whole timeline. how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we don't have so much time for a long nomination period. I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press us but we should stand and be clear about the aspects which are non-negotiable with regard to the process. Best, Rafik 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears : > Thanks Rafik > > Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and we are > running out of time. > > First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was not > really discussed further. Then we had some general discussion about the > need to do something on the Board selection process. People voiced their > views on different aspects of the process and there was concern over the > timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others please jump in as I > may have missed some important aspects). Markus announced he wanted to > continue in the role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG > proposal for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be > general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal. > > I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and timeline for > nominations and getting that announced, so at least the initial stages of > the process are underway. > > Matthew > > On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board seat > election. > First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not agreed on > iceland on that regard from those who attended intersessional? > > We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points such as having > vote, NCA participation and so on. > > I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our expectations. > There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end of this week > but we do need to be ready. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Greg Shatan" > Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM > Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process > To: > Cc: > > All, > > We probably need a different mailing list to finish working on the Board > Seat selection process, and a small group to do it, but I'll start here, > since I think this is the only active mailing list with both sides of the > NCPH on it. > > We basically have no time to work this out, and we've already started the > process without knowing what it is exactly, since we have now received > nominations. > > In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously circulated, > I'm also attaching the following for consideration: > > 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG > representatives outlining a potential draft process. > 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft > timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. > 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which covers > the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the > Bylaws), and Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). > > A few thoughts and comments: > > A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a process > that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to go through). Talk about > building the airplane in the air. > > B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to the > timeline, but did not come to any decisions. It's not clear to me whether > Staff is preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. > > C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we should put out a > call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would be nice to know the > end of the nomination period). > > D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH > bullet-points are significantly different when it comes to voting. > > E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly as > possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we don't need to use this > process as precedent for any future process. We just need to get through > this selection. One approach is for NCSG to respond to the draft sent at > the end of the Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and the > bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect > session ASAP to move the ball forward. > > Thanks for reading, > > Greg > > P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but nonetheless, it > should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never updated from 2012, when > the Bylaws deadline for naming the Director was changed from one month to > two months (briefly) and then six months prior to being seated. (The GNSO > Procedures will need to be updated in any event, since the Bylaws > references are now obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error. > > B. Since we are doing this with very little time > > > > > > *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 > S: gsshatan > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 > gregshatanipc at gmail.com > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Greg Shatan > Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM > Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process > To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org > > > NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants, > > The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed interim Board > Selection Process based closely on the Final Process adopted by the > Contracted Parties House. Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing > changes from the CPH document. > > A Google Docs version can be found here, where any suggested changes can > be added in "suggest" mode (but everyone has "edit" rights): > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPp > nL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing > > We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat process and then > revisit afterward before making it a permanent rather than "interim" > process. > > This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC and ISPCP, but > we wanted to start the discussion on this basis, given the short amount of > time we have for this year. > > We look forward to your thoughts. > > Thanks! > > Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) > > > *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <%28917%29%20816-6428> > S: gsshatan > Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <%28646%29%20845-9428> > gregshatanipc at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ncph-intersessional2017 mailing list > Ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncph-intersessional2017 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > > -- > ------------ > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)+ 44 771 2472987 <+44%207712%20472987> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Feb 22 08:09:40 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:09:40 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Selection of Replacement / Temporary Councilor Message-ID: <20170222060939.mslfsddilizwenik@roller.tarvainen.info> Dear EC members, I presume you've seen the post by Ed about the procedural matters relating to Amr's replacement, but I'll copy it below anyway for reference and to make commenting here easier. I would very much like to hear if you disagree on Ed's analysis or would just like to add something to some particular point, or if you have anything to add he failed to cover. (I will get back on the issue of GAC liaison later.) Regards, -- Tapani Tarvainen ----- Forwarded message from Edward Morris ----- Hello everybody, I?ve been pleased to see the spirited discussion on list about the process to select someone to represent the NCSG on the GNSO Council in light of Amr Elsadr?s recent resignation. I know, like and respect all four announced candidates, and would encourage anyone else interested in serving on Council to put their names into the pool for consideration. As a current Councilor I don?t feel it is my role to support or endorse any particular candidate so I?m not. Rather, I look forward to welcoming to Council the individual selected to serve as a temporary / replacement Councilor and pledge to do all I can to help him or her adjust to her or his new role. I?ve read lots of unique suggestions and ideas that have been promulgated on list for filling the open slot: elections, a shared seat, short term appointees who pledge not to run for re-election etc. What all of these well meaning ad hoc ideas ignore is that we as a community are bound together by a set of governing documents that anticipated that vacancies may occur on Council and created procedures we may now use to determine both who selects the replacement Councilor, the type of replacement, and who is eligible to serve as same. The relevant governing documents are: 1. The Bylaws For Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN Bylaws): https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article11 2. The GNSO Operating Procedures, version 3.2 (GNSO OP): https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-01sep16-en.pdf 3. The NCSG Charter (NCSG Charter): https://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf In this post I?d like to go through the relevant sections of these documents with you so as we go forward we do so in compliance with the documents that constitute the legal essence of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group. HOW WE DETERMINE THE REPLACEMENT COUNCILOR 1. ICANN Bylaws The ICANN Bylaws ?11.3c states: A vacancy on the GNSO Council shall be deemed to exist in the case of the death, resignation, or removal of any member. Vacancies shall be filled for the unexpired term by the appropriate Nominating Committee or Stakeholder Group that selected the member holding the position before the vacancy occurred by giving the GNSO Secretariat written notice of its selection. Procedures for handling Stakeholder Group-appointed GNSO Council member vacancies, resignations, and removals are prescribed in the applicable Stakeholder Group Charter. Amr?s resignation has created a vacancy on the GNSO Council. As he was appointed by the NCSG, procedures for his replacement are contained in the NCSG Charter. NCSG Charter ?3.2 reads: In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable to finish his or her term, the NCSG-EC will appoint a temporary GNSO Council Representative to serve until the next regularly-scheduled election as provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP. At that time, a new GNSO Council Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of the vacated term, if any. The NCSG EC is charged with appointing a temporary GNSO Council Representative. As Amr?s term was scheduled to end at the next election there will be no balance of the vacated term to fill at that time. I should note that myself, Stephanie Perrin and Rafik Dammak are in the first year of a two year term as Councilors that extend to 2018. Stefania Milan and Marilia Maciel have terms ending this year. They both, as well as whomever is selected to fill the vacant seat, will be eligible to run for re-election to Council. Neither are term limited. TYPES OF REPLACEMENTS The GNSO OP ?3.8.3a cites the ICANN Bylaws in referring to Council vacancies due to ?resignation or other permament vacancy?. However, GNSO OP ?3.8.3b also states: During any transition period following the occurrence of the permanent vacancy, but before a new election or appointment and subsequent seating of the replacement Councilor, the remedy in Paragraph 3.8.4 is available. GNSO OP ?3.8.4a reads: For a Councilor who is not appointed by the Nominating Committee, the appointing organization may, at its discretion, name a Temporary Alternate to serve in the absent or vacant Councilor?s seat. This is exactly what the NCSG-EC did when it appointed Avri Doria, an excellent choice, as a Temporary Alternate to serve in the Council seat vacated by Amr during the February 16th GNSO Council meeting. Matt Shears, Sarah Clayton and Martin Pablo Silva Valent have also served our community exceptionally well as Temporary Alternate Councilors during the current Council term. It is important to note that Temporary Alternates are NOT full Councilors. For example, per GNSO OP ?4.7 (ii) : A Temporary Alternate may not be selected to register a proxy vote. The Temporary Alternate position is designed to be a short term measure to prevent any Stakeholder Group from being short a voice during a planned absence of a Councilor or in response to a sudden vacancy. It is not intended to be a long term solution. As such, rules applicable to selection of individuals for Councilor positions (for example, term limits) appear not to be applicable to Temporary Alternates (although one could certainly argue the spirit of such rules means they should). So there are two types of substitutes allowed for a vacated seat: 1. Temporary Alternate: a short term appointment for a limited term with limitations on Councilor powers granted to him or her and, 2. Temporary (NCSG Charter) / Replacement (GNSO OP) Councilor: appointment of an individual to serve until the next election period, which in this case means the expiration of the term of the vacated seat. ELIGIBILITY ISSUES ICANN Bylaws ?11.3b contains two provisions of interest: For these purposes, a person selected to fill a vacancy in a term shall not be deemed to have served that term, A former Council member who has served two consecutive terms must remain out of office for one full term prior to serving any subsequent term as Council member. Anyone selected to serve as the Temporary / Replacement Councilor will then be eligible to serve an additional two full terms. This currently applies, for example, to Marilia Maciel who: 1) filled a vacancy and then 2) was elected to serve one full term. She is eligible to run for one additional full term. David Cake is the only NCSG member ineligible to serve as a Temporary/Replacement Councilor by virtue of having completed two consecutive terms within the past two years (two years being a full term). CRITERIA ICANN Bylaws ?11.3a reads: Stakeholder Groups should, in their charters, ensure their representation on the GNSO Council is as diverse as possible and practicable, including considerations of geography, GNSO Constituency, sector, ability and gender. NCSG Charter ?3.1 states: The NCSG is assigned six (6) GNSO Council seats through the ICANN Bylaws. All NCSG GNSO Council representatives will be directly voted on by the full membership of the NCSG using weighted voting as defined in Section 4. To the maximum extent possible, no more than two (2) NCSG GNSO Council Representatives can be declared resident of the same geographic region as defined by ICANN. Reasonable efforts should be taken to recruit nominees so that all geographical regions may be represented by the NCSG GNSO Council Representatives. Reasonable efforts should also be taken to ensure gender balance and in no circumstance should there be fewer than 2 members of any gender. Although it could be argued that NCSG Charter ?3.1 applies only to those Councilors selected by election rather than appointment, read in conjunction with ICANN Bylaws ?11.3a it is clear that the diversity requirements apply here as well. NCSG Charter ?3.1 is the Charter component that directly complies with ICANN Bylaws ?11.3a, a provision that does not specify mode of selection. Poor legal construction in the Charter is no reason to ignore the Bylaws requirement and, in fact, if read in such a way the NCSG Charter would arguably not be in compliance with the ICANN Bylaws. The current composition of the NCSG GNSO Council representation is: 3 female, 2 male 2 Europe 1 North America 1 Asia / Australia / Pacific 1 Latin America / Carribean The ICANN Bylaws requires the NCSG EC to attempt, in making its appointment, to ensure that our representation on the GNSO Council is ?as diverse as possible and practicable, including considerations of geography, GNSO Constituency, sector, ability and gender?. In implementing this Bylaws mandate the NCSG Charter created the hard requirement that there should be no fewer than two members of the same sex in the GNSO Council contingent. As that requirement has already been met by the current Council group it is inapplicable to the current appointment. ?To the maximum extent possible? the NCSG EC needs to ensure in making this appointment that no more than two Council representatives are residents of the same ICANN defined geographic region. As Europe is already at the maximum capacity of 2 representatives, ?to the maximum extent possible? the individual selected for the temporary/replacement role should be resident in a different ICANN region. No other region is impacted by this section of the Charter. Reasonable efforts must be made by the NCSG EC to ensure: all geographical regions are represented in the GNSO Council cohort, and the GNSO Council group has gender balance. Amr Elsadar resided in the ICANN designated African region. We no longer have an African resident on Council. The NCSG EC needs to make a reasonable effort to try to replace Amr with a resident of either Africa or Antarctica, the two ICANN regions for which the NCSG does not have Council representation. Amr?s resignation has also left our Council representation with a gender imbalance: three woman, two men. The NCSG EC needs to make a reasonable effort to ?ensure gender balance? by replacing Amr with a male. As I understand things, self nominations are still being accepted for this position. I?m sure the NCSG EC would encourage anyone interested in applying for the position, most particularly males and those residing in either Africa or Antarctica. Making a reasonable effort to meet these diversity goals would be helped by the largest possible number of applicants! Please note that the only absolute here is that David Cake can not be the Temporary/Replacement Councilor. Sorry Dave. :) All other criteria are guidelines of various strengths (?maximum extent possible?, ?reasonable?) that the NCSG EC is obliged to give consideration to but is not required to absolutely adhere to. Given the high standards of the NCSG EC I?m sure they will try and if, despite best efforts, their selection does not correspond with Bylaws/OP/Charter suggestions I?m quite sure and expect they will tell us why. They do not have an easy job. For the record, these are not requirements that I personally would prioritize. Please don?t shot the messenger. :) A commitment to work, to participate on Council small groups (where Amr was excellent): these are my wish list for my future colleague. I do, however, believe in the rule of law rather than the rule of man and these are the rules we have to work with. I wish the NCSG EC well in their deliberations and look forward to welcoming a new Councilor on board as soon as possible. We have lots of work to do together. The sooner the better. Kind Regards, Edward Morris ----- End forwarded message ----- From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Wed Feb 22 23:18:22 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 23:18:22 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Amr's replacement In-Reply-To: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> References: <20170216131858.cesugeqdtqzqdafv@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170222211822.nnphuyvh4alqr3yc@tarvainen.info> Dear all, No new volunteers have shown up so we have four candidates for filling the vacant councillor position: Avri Doria Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez Martin Silva Valent Tatiana Tropina I would like to encourage discussion on the list before our call on Friday. The more things we get out of the way in advance, the less time we need to spend in the call, and we have a fairly long agenda. And if we do not reach consensus on Friday we may not be able to decide this in time for Copenhagen. -- Tapani Tarvainen From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Feb 23 10:03:39 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:03:39 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Consumers' Candidate Constituency Message-ID: <20170223080338.GA581@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Dear all, One agenda item in our meeting tomorrow is the status of Consumers' Constituency. It's been candidate constituency for a long time but has had no activity in years, so I think it's about time to close the book on it. I contacted its last known representative, Dorothy Gordon, who told me she tried to reach out to others who'd been there earlier without success, as well as Avri Doria, who was involved when it was started, and they agree it's defunct and don't object to its being terminated. Should someone want to revive it they can restart the process by re-applying for candidate status. Below are relevant items from GNSO rules and our charter (thanks to Avri for help here). Reading them it is quite evident that Consumers' Constituency does not qualify as a constituency, so I propose we'll remove its candidate status fortwith, as a separate step in our review process. I am open to persuasion if someone wants to carry it along while we review our active constituencies and remove it only when that process is complete, but at the moment I don't see a need for that. References: https://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/new-constituency-recog-process-24jun11en.pdf > A. Request for Recognition (RFR) Submittal Within 6 months of a Board > resolution approving an Applicant Constituency to enter the Candidate > Phase, the proponents will submit to the SG (via > new-constituency at icann.org) a Request for Recognition (RFR) as a > Constituency in the SG. This request will include: 1) An Activity > Report containing: a) A summary of the Candidate Constituency?s > participation in the SG?s activities as described in Appendix 2 of > this document, and b) The Candidate Constituency?s membership growth > to reach the goals described in Appendix 2 of this document. 2) A > proposed charter for the Constituency developed in accordance with the > criteria in Appendix 3. Appendix 2 > To qualify to become a Recognized Constituency, at a minimum, the > Candidate Constituency must: > 1) Have prepared and submitted a formal charter with specific > governance mechanisms and provisions that are consistent with the > checklist set forth in Appendix 3. > 2) Have participated actively in at least two GNSO Working Groups > (including committees, work teams, drafting teams, or other > Council-approved structures) with its representatives attending at > least 50% of the scheduled meetings. > 3) Have prepared and submitted at least two Constituency policy > position statements or other policy analyses to its Stakeholder Group > and/or other recognized GNSO forum (e.g. GNSO Council, ICANN Public > Comment Forum). > 4) Have demonstrated active engagement in the applicable Stakeholder > Group by becoming a participant in at least two committees, if > appropriate and applicable, with its representatives attending at > least 50% of the scheduled meetings. > 5) For Constituencies whose membership is more than 50% comprised of > organizations, criterion (a) will apply; for Constituencies whose > membership is more than 50% comprised of individuals, criterion (b) > will apply. > a) Show a membership count of at least thirty-two (32) organizational > entities with four entities located in each of at least four ICANN > Geographic Regions or at least two entities from all five ICANN > Geographic Regions. To satisfy this criterion, the entities must be > unrelated to each other. > b) Show a membership count of seventy (70) individual members with > fourteen individuals located in each of at least four ICANN Geographic > Regions or at least seven individuals from each of five ICANN > Geographic Regions. The rules in the NCSG charter for a constituency that is operational to retain recognition include: > 2. Constituencies must have maintained a dynamic publicly archived > discussion list; > > 3. Constituencies must have participated actively in relevant NCSG and > GNSO Policy Development Process Working Groups or Work Teams; > > 4. Constituencies must have participated actively in submitting > comments and other policy statements to the NCSG and to the GNSO; and > > 5. Constituencies must have at least 10 participants who sign on to an > updated SOI for maintaining recognized status as a Constituency. -- Tapani Tarvainen From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 10:07:30 2017 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:07:30 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG quickly. at least covering the topic of nomination. Best, Rafik 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > Hi Matt, > > thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this topic. > I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the process and > adjust the whole timeline. > how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for now. shall > we initiate a process to find other candidates? we don't have so much time > for a long nomination period. > > I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press us but we > should stand and be clear about the aspects which are non-negotiable with > regard to the process. > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears : > >> Thanks Rafik >> >> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and we are >> running out of time. >> >> First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was not >> really discussed further. Then we had some general discussion about the >> need to do something on the Board selection process. People voiced their >> views on different aspects of the process and there was concern over the >> timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others please jump in as I >> may have missed some important aspects). Markus announced he wanted to >> continue in the role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG >> proposal for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be >> general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal. >> >> I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and timeline for >> nominations and getting that announced, so at least the initial stages of >> the process are underway. >> >> Matthew >> >> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board seat >> election. >> First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not agreed on >> iceland on that regard from those who attended intersessional? >> >> We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points such as having >> vote, NCA participation and so on. >> >> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our expectations. >> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end of this week >> but we do need to be ready. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Greg Shatan" >> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM >> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process >> To: >> Cc: >> >> All, >> >> We probably need a different mailing list to finish working on the Board >> Seat selection process, and a small group to do it, but I'll start here, >> since I think this is the only active mailing list with both sides of the >> NCPH on it. >> >> We basically have no time to work this out, and we've already started the >> process without knowing what it is exactly, since we have now received >> nominations. >> >> In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously >> circulated, I'm also attaching the following for consideration: >> >> 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG >> representatives outlining a potential draft process. >> 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft >> timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. >> 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which covers >> the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the >> Bylaws), and Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). >> >> A few thoughts and comments: >> >> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a process >> that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to go through). Talk about >> building the airplane in the air. >> >> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to the >> timeline, but did not come to any decisions. It's not clear to me whether >> Staff is preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. >> >> C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we should put out a >> call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would be nice to know the >> end of the nomination period). >> >> D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH >> bullet-points are significantly different when it comes to voting. >> >> E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly as >> possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we don't need to use this >> process as precedent for any future process. We just need to get through >> this selection. One approach is for NCSG to respond to the draft sent at >> the end of the Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and the >> bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect >> session ASAP to move the ball forward. >> >> Thanks for reading, >> >> Greg >> >> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but nonetheless, it >> should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never updated from 2012, when >> the Bylaws deadline for naming the Director was changed from one month to >> two months (briefly) and then six months prior to being seated. (The GNSO >> Procedures will need to be updated in any event, since the Bylaws >> references are now obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error. >> >> B. Since we are doing this with very little time >> >> >> >> >> >> *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 >> S: gsshatan >> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 >> gregshatanipc at gmail.com >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Greg Shatan >> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM >> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process >> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >> >> >> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants, >> >> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed interim Board >> Selection Process based closely on the Final Process adopted by the >> Contracted Parties House. Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing >> changes from the CPH document. >> >> A Google Docs version can be found here, where any suggested changes can >> be added in "suggest" mode (but everyone has "edit" rights): >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPp >> nL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing >> >> We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat process and >> then revisit afterward before making it a permanent rather than "interim" >> process. >> >> This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC and ISPCP, >> but we wanted to start the discussion on this basis, given the short amount >> of time we have for this year. >> >> We look forward to your thoughts. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) >> >> >> *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <%28917%29%20816-6428> >> S: gsshatan >> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <%28646%29%20845-9428> >> gregshatanipc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ncph-intersessional2017 mailing list >> Ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncph-intersessional2017 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> >> -- >> ------------ >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)+ 44 771 2472987 <+44%207712%20472987> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Feb 23 15:32:18 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:32:18 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] CiviCRM Message-ID: <20170223133218.hewdcrp7mv2donz2@tarvainen.info> Dear all, Our new member database is about to go live, at last. Tomorrow we'll still be using Google Docs, but it'll be the last time, barring any major disasters. We intend to migrate old member data and switch the application form to point to the CiviCRM site on Tuesday. -- Tapani Tarvainen From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Thu Feb 23 15:47:31 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:47:31 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] CiviCRM In-Reply-To: <20170223133218.hewdcrp7mv2donz2@tarvainen.info> References: <20170223133218.hewdcrp7mv2donz2@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170223134731.we7b43knxh6tgyjy@tarvainen.info> Forgot to add: Representatives of both constituencies have been working on this and presumably kept you up to date of the progress, but if you haven't had the time to follow or look at the new system, now is the time. (I haven't checked which of you asked for account when I offered it earlier.) At least you should take a look at the application form: https://members.ncsg.is/membership_application If you spot any critical problems or minor things you'd like to change, let me or your representative in the team know, by email or during the call tomorrow. Minor changes can be done even after the system goes live - I'm sure we've missed something. Second, if you haven't got an account to the system yet, let me know and I'll arrange it. That'll give you "EC member view" of the system you'll need when reviewing applications. There're still some rough edges there, we'll want to talk about it in Copenhagen and possibly arrange a tutorial-type teleconference in advance. Tapani On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:32:18PM +0200, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote: > Dear all, > > Our new member database is about to go live, at last. > > Tomorrow we'll still be using Google Docs, but it'll be the last time, > barring any major disasters. We intend to migrate old member data and > switch the application form to point to the CiviCRM site on Tuesday. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen From mshears at cdt.org Thu Feb 23 12:49:50 2017 From: mshears at cdt.org (matthew shears) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:49:50 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30cce838-8dbb-28a0-7f77-55bc42044349@cdt.org> Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and say we are considering/or not their doc and will be proposing something or an alternative version - and put some deadline on it for us - maybe end of next week? And, try to get agreement on a nomination period - say next week? or two weeks from Monday? Probably would be useful to have the CSG and NCSG nomination periods run in parallel. Agree with CSG whether should be nomination and/or self nomination. In the interim start work on the process? Matthew On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi all, > > we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG quickly. at > least covering the topic of nomination. > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak >: > > Hi Matt, > > thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this topic. > I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the process > and adjust the whole timeline. > how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for > now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we > don't have so much time for a long nomination period. > > I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press us > but we should stand and be clear about the aspects which are > non-negotiable with regard to the process. > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears >: > > Thanks Rafik > > Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it > and we are running out of time. > > First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which > was not really discussed further. Then we had some general > discussion about the need to do something on the Board > selection process. People voiced their views on different > aspects of the process and there was concern over the > timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others please > jump in as I may have missed some important aspects). Markus > announced he wanted to continue in the role; I announced I was > going to run. Then the CSG proposal for a process was > circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be general agreement > that the CSG proposal was not ideal. > > I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and > timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at > least the initial stages of the process are underway. > > Matthew > > > On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board >> seat election. >> First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not >> agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended >> intersessional? >> >> We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points >> such as having vote, NCA participation and so on. >> >> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our >> expectations. >> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end >> of this week but we do need to be ready. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Greg Shatan" > > >> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM >> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process >> To: > > >> Cc: >> >> All, >> >> We probably need a different mailing list to finish >> working on the Board Seat selection process, and a small >> group to do it, but I'll start here, since I think this >> is the only active mailing list with both sides of the >> NCPH on it. >> >> We basically have no time to work this out, and we've >> already started the process without knowing what it is >> exactly, since we have now received nominations. >> >> In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures >> previously circulated, I'm also attaching the following >> for consideration: >> >> 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and >> NCSG representatives outlining a potential draft process. >> 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a >> revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts from >> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. >> 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section >> 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for Seats >> 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and >> Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). >> >> A few thoughts and comments: >> >> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go >> through a process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks >> (just to go through). Talk about building the airplane >> in the air. >> >> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible >> adjustments to the timeline, but did not come to any >> decisions. It's not clear to me whether Staff is >> preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. >> >> C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we >> should put out a call for any other nominations ASAP >> (though it would be nice to know the end of the >> nomination period). >> >> D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the >> NCPH bullet-points are significantly different when it >> comes to voting. >> >> E. We should figure out how to get this process agreed as >> quickly as possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we >> don't need to use this process as precedent for any >> future process. We just need to get through this >> selection. One approach is for NCSG to respond to the >> draft sent at the end of the Intersessional. However, >> given the gap between that and the bullet-points, it >> might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect >> session ASAP to move the ball forward. >> >> Thanks for reading, >> >> Greg >> >> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but >> nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures >> were never updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline >> for naming the Director was changed from one month to two >> months (briefly) and then six months prior to being >> seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in >> any event, since the Bylaws references are now >> obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this error. >> >> B. Since we are doing this with very little time >> >> >> >> >> *Greg Shatan >> *C: 917-816-6428 >> S: gsshatan >> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 >> gregshatanipc at gmail.com >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *Greg Shatan* > > >> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM >> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process >> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >> >> >> >> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants, >> >> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed >> interim Board Selection Process based closely on the >> Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House. >> Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing changes >> from the CPH document. >> >> A Google Docs version can be found here, where any >> suggested changes can be added in "suggest" mode (but >> everyone has "edit" rights): >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing >> >> >> We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat >> process and then revisit afterward before making it a >> permanent rather than "interim" process. >> >> This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, >> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion on >> this basis, given the short amount of time we have for >> this year. >> >> We look forward to your thoughts. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) >> >> *Greg Shatan >> *C: 917-816-6428 >> S: gsshatan >> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 >> gregshatanipc at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ncph-intersessional2017 mailing list >> Ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncph-intersessional2017 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > -- > ------------ > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- ------------ Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Many thanks, -- Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat ?Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Mobile: +44 7737 698036 Skype: maryam.bakoshi.icann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/calendar Size: 7812 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Fri Feb 24 21:45:25 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:45:25 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] Constituency review - questionnaire draft In-Reply-To: <20170220212924.64a5aemgufrhllbd@roller.tarvainen.info> References: <20170220212924.64a5aemgufrhllbd@roller.tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20170224194525.e5q3xqooaae5ckqb@tarvainen.info> Dear all, Nobody commented on my notes on the subject, but I trust you've read them so we can discuss them during the call. Below (at the very last moment, apologies) is my first draft of the questionnaire I propose we send to the Constituency Chairs: ---------------------------------8<--------------------------------- Dear Chair, NCSG Executive Committee is conducting Constituency Review, as required by NCSG Charter 2.3.3, to determine if any recommendation should be made to the Board regarding a change in status of any Constituency. To that end we ask you to answer to the questions below. 1a) What is the purpose of your constituency, as defined in your bylaws? 1b) Are all your members also members of NCSG (yes/no)? 1c) What is the the common interest or background of your membership and the focus of your group? 2. Do you have a publicly dynamic, publicly archived mailing list and where its archives can be found (URL)? 3. Do you participate actively in relevant NCSG and GNSO PDP Working Groups or Work Teams? Please provide as complete as possible list of such groups or teams and names of your people who've participated in them over the years 2015 and 2016, noting also any who've been Chairs or Co-Chairs. 4. Have you participated actively in submitting comments and other policy statements to the NCSG and GNSO? Please provide as complete list as possible of such comments and statements you've made during 2015-2016, with links to where they've been published. 5. Do you have at least 10 participants who've signed up to an updated SOI? Please provide a list (links to SOIs) of at least 10 such. For all questions: If you have plans or projects in progress that may affect your situation in the future, including but not limited to changes in your bylaws, please describe them. Please reply to me by 15 May, 2017, even if you can't come up with complete answers to all questions by that time. We will to ask for more details and clarifications as needed and engage you in discussion about possible problems, and welcome any questions or concerns you may have about this before answering. The intent is to complete the review by ICANN59 meeting in Johannesburg, but we may take longer if needed. Sincerely, Tapani Tarvainen NCSG Chair ---------------------------------8<--------------------------------- From ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info Sat Feb 25 19:32:49 2017 From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 19:32:49 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-EC] EC decisions on 24 Feb Message-ID: <20170225173249.t5cbrpvkdxevxg3v@tarvainen.info> Dear Poncelet, You missed EC meeting yesterday, and as we need full consensus, decisions made there were left pending your possible objection. In addition to the membership application decisions, which you can find in the Google docs as before, we made two important decisions: First, we decided to terminate Consumers' Constituency's candidate constituency status. Second, following Amr Elsadr's resignation from the council, we decided to appoint Avri Doria as his temporary alternate until the end of Copenhagen meeting and Martin Silva Valent as temporary replacement after that for the remainder of the term. It would be much appreciated if you'd indicate your concurrence or objection as soon as possible. Thank you, -- Tapani Tarvainen From pileleji at ymca.gm Sun Feb 26 12:28:16 2017 From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:28:16 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-EC] EC decisions on 24 Feb In-Reply-To: <20170225173249.t5cbrpvkdxevxg3v@tarvainen.info> References: <20170225173249.t5cbrpvkdxevxg3v@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Morning Tapani, Sorry all I did not purposely miss the meeting, we had electricity issues in my area, that caused me to miss meeting. I concur with your decisions Kind regards Poncelet On 25 February 2017 at 18:32, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Dear Poncelet, > > You missed EC meeting yesterday, and as we need full consensus, > decisions made there were left pending your possible objection. > > In addition to the membership application decisions, which you can > find in the Google docs as before, we made two important decisions: > > First, we decided to terminate Consumers' Constituency's > candidate constituency status. > > Second, following Amr Elsadr's resignation from the council, we > decided to appoint Avri Doria as his temporary alternate until the end > of Copenhagen meeting and Martin Silva Valent as temporary replacement > after that for the remainder of the term. > > It would be much appreciated if you'd indicate your concurrence or > objection as soon as possible. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > -- Poncelet O. 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