[EC-NCSG] Open issue: all candidates+nota
Zalnieriute, Monika
Monika.Zalnieriute
Thu Aug 25 11:18:28 EEST 2016
Dear All,
I am not aware that we have agreed to contact any voters to 'double check' if they voted the way they wanted or if it was not a mistake. I would also like to highlight the potential problems with anonymity of voting because in case voters are contacted to double check if they voted that/this way and if that was their intention.
It seems to me that this is against the core idea of democratic voting, which should be anonymous. I alsredy have strong feelings about us being able to identfy the individuals based on ballot ID. This is not ok.
Well, in any elections people HAVE A RIGHT to invalidate and spoil their vote. This is a right, and this is how their chose to exercise their right to vote, should they wish so.
Best wishes,
Monika
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Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
Melbourne Law School | The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I
Center for Media, Data and Society I Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I
Executive Committee I Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I
Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I zephiroplatform.org I
Centre for Internet & Human Rights I European University Viadrina I cihr.eu I
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From: EC-NCSG <ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org> on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:11 AM
To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org
Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] Open issue: all candidates+nota
Dear all,
After sleeping over it and seeing the comments on the list,
I find myself in agreement with Monika and suggest we'll
drop the idea of contacting voters in this case.
You will recall that yesterday we told Glen to hold it
until further instructions, so unless we decide we want
her to send such notices and tell her so it will not happen.
Tapani
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 08:15:22PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen (ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote:
> This case was left open in the call.
>
> I recall Monika arguing for simply invalidating such a ballot,
> indeed explicitly having it as a way to invalidate one's ballot
> if someone wants to.
>
> Glen offered notifying such voters so they could vote again
> in case it was a mistake.
>
> I rather tend to agree with Monika, but could easily be
> persuaded either way. If we want to have Glen do that
> we'd have to decide how many times and how close to the
> deadline it'd be done - how persistent someone would
> have to be to have their ballot invalidated.
>
> Maybe just one note and if that's ignored, then assume
> it was deliberate. We could instruct Glen to phrase
> the note in such a way that it makes this clear.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:59:15PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at YORKU.CA) wrote:
>
> > I agree that this is how it is now supposed to work, but what happens if
> > someone votes for all candidates, and NOTA?
>
> In that case the vote is invalid.
>
> Technically it would apparently be possible to notify the voter of
> this situation and ask him or her to vote again. We discussed this but
> didn't decide if that should be done, as time ran out.
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
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