From rafik.dammak Wed Jan 7 02:42:14 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:42:14 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCPH Intersessional Meeting Pl -- proposal for discussion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, proposals from CSG with the regard to next week meeting. I am happy with proposal #2, I would even be tempted to have regular confcall with them between ICANN meetings if it helps to discuss some topics. for proposal #1 , I think that is not far from what discussed previously about rotation but looking for your input here. on other side, is there any proposal we want to put on table with the regard to NCPH internal matters? Thanks, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Metalitz, Steven Date: 2015-01-07 9:23 GMT+09:00 Subject: NCPH Intersessional Meeting Pl -- proposal for discussion To: Rafik Dammak , William Drake < william.drake at uzh.ch>, Tony Holmes , " lori.schulman at ascd.org" , Kristina Rosette < krosette at cov.com>, "rudi.vansnick at isoc.be" , Elisa Cooper , Jimson Olufuye < jolufuye at kontemporary.net>, Stefania Milan , Marilyn Cade Fellow Non-contracted party house leaders, As discussed during some of our planning calls for the NCPH intersessional meeting, our discussion of ?In-House? issues regarding the functioning of our House and the fulfillment of its responsibilities could be facilitated by having some concrete proposals on the table prior to our arrival in Washington. In that spirit, and with the endorsement of the Commercial Stakeholder Group executive committee, I offer the following proposals for your consideration, and for discussion both via e-mail prior to the intersessional meeting and during our face to face discussion in Washington, currently scheduled for next Monday morning (?slot C?). Please feel free to share these proposals with your colleagues as appropriate. 1. *Selection of GNSO Council Vice Chair*: We propose to replace the current ad hoc selection system with the following: The privilege to nominate a candidate for Vice Chair should be rotated annually between the two Stakeholder Groups. Since a counselor from the non-commercial side (David Cake) has been selected each of the past two years, we propose that the commercial side exercise this privilege in 2015, non-commercial in 2016. For election, the nominee would have to win an absolute majority of votes (currently 7) including at least one vote from each stakeholder group, in a ?nominee v. none of the above? poll. (The NCA appointee to our house would continue to be eligible to vote.) Both sides would commit not to reject the nominee of the other side other than for compelling reasons that are communicated in advance to the other side. Finally, we would set the clear expectation that the vice chair would keep both sides of the House informed of relevant activities within the Council, including by meeting with each side of the House upon request, at least once each calendar quarter. 2. *?Hard-wiring? House leadership meeting into ICANN meeting schedule*: We propose that both sides agree that, at each ICANN public meeting (beginning with Buenos Aires) , a one-hour slot will be reserved for a meeting of leadership of the groups making up the House, to discuss current issues of mutual concern. (If there is mutual agreement and it is logistically feasible, this slot could be made into a broader meeting of House participants attending the ICANN meeting.) Agenda for the meeting would be negotiated in advance among the groups, and the meeting would be recorded and transcribed for those members of the groups unable to attend. These proposals are made in the context of the existing structure of the NCPH (and of the Council as a whole), and could require adjustment if those structures change. Thank you in advance for your consideration of these proposals. I look forward to your comments and reactions. Steve Metalitz, IPC Vice President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Wed Jan 7 03:44:45 2015 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:44:45 -0500 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCPH Intersessional Meeting Pl -- proposal for discussion Message-ID: Hi, One is pretty much the method that was established several years ago. Then it was only for 2 cycles. Then they wanted to abrogate it and we went into so-called ad hoc mode. Sure let's do this until they decided they don't want to anymore. Like when we pick someone they don't want. And if the leadership wants to meet for an hour per meeting and you want to formalize it, no big deal. avri Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Hi everyone, proposals from CSG with the regard to next week meeting. I am happy with proposal #2, I would even be tempted to have regular confcall with them between ICANN meetings if it helps to discuss some topics. for proposal #1 , I think that is not far from what discussed previously about rotation but looking for your input here. on other side, is there any proposal we want to put on table with the regard to NCPH internal matters? Thanks, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Metalitz, Steven Date: 2015-01-07 9:23 GMT+09:00 Subject: NCPH Intersessional Meeting Pl -- proposal for discussion To: Rafik Dammak , William Drake , Tony Holmes , "lori.schulman at ascd.org" , Kristina Rosette , "rudi.vansnick at isoc.be" , Elisa Cooper , Jimson Olufuye , Stefania Milan , Marilyn Cade Fellow Non-contracted party house leaders, As discussed during some of our planning calls for the NCPH intersessional meeting, our discussion of ?In-House? issues regarding the functioning of our House and the fulfillment of its responsibilities could be facilitated by having some concrete proposals on the table prior to our arrival in Washington. In that spirit, and with the endorsement of the Commercial Stakeholder Group executive committee, I offer the following proposals for your consideration, and for discussion both via e-mail prior to the intersessional meeting and during our face to face discussion in Washington, currently scheduled for next Monday morning (?slot C?). Please feel free to share these proposals with your colleagues as appropriate. 1. Selection of GNSO Council Vice Chair: We propose to replace the current ad hoc selection system with the following: The privilege to nominate a candidate for Vice Chair should be rotated annually between the two Stakeholder Groups. Since a counselor from the non-commercial side (David Cake) has been selected each of the past two years, we propose that the commercial side exercise this privilege in 2015, non-commercial in 2016. For election, the nominee would have to win an absolute majority of votes (currently 7) including at least one vote from each stakeholder group, in a ?nominee v. none of the above? poll. (The NCA appointee to our house would continue to be eligible to vote.) Both sides would commit not to reject the nominee of the other side other than for compelling reasons that are communicated in advance to the other side. Finally, we would set the clear expectation that the vice chair would keep both sides of the House informed of relevant activities within the Council, including by meeting with each side of the House upon request, at least once each calendar quarter. 2. ?Hard-wiring? House leadership meeting into ICANN meeting schedule: We propose that both sides agree that, at each ICANN public meeting (beginning with Buenos Aires) , a one-hour slot will be reserved for a meeting of leadership of the groups making up the House, to discuss current issues of mutual concern. (If there is mutual agreement and it is logistically feasible, this slot could be made into a broader meeting of House participants attending the ICANN meeting.) Agenda for the meeting would be negotiated in advance among the groups, and the meeting would be recorded and transcribed for those members of the groups unable to attend. These proposals are made in the context of the existing structure of the NCPH (and of the Council as a whole), and could require adjustment if those structures change. Thank you in advance for your consideration of these proposals. I look forward to your comments and reactions. Steve Metalitz, IPC Vice President -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We can use the Singapore session for some strategic planning for this year. - Regarding the applications review please check the spreadsheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc#gid=6 & https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 @Tapani if you agree we can have short call to explain how we proceed for the review so you can catch up. - We still have some material to review and need EC members input: - link to a mockup of membership application form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uPzS7nxQkGgndirN8JM_E067DXz42uXWKcBClxAd4KY/edit I shared it previously and resending it here. we discussed during the call about some info to ask to individuals e.g to highlight their "non-commercialness". also improving the form such as with mail notification when we receive new application . @Lori please check if you have the full access and see the whole form in a single page. - process flowchart draft: I instructed Maryam to draft one so we can post it in the application page to clarify to applicants about the process and expectations in term of time response. we are trying to improve the review period , by having our regular call by the last friday of each month. I will send soon the new applications and also list of pending applications to which we need to make final decision. - Maryam created a logo for NCSG and that can be good for NCSG branding. she followed the ICANN graphic guidelines but we should make our own changes. - ICANN will support us to have flyers before ICANN meetings, we won't make it for singapore but at least we got a draft to start with. please share your ideas and suggestions Best Regards, Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCSG Flyer.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 2165711 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick at npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 > Op 26-jan.-2015, om 02:13 heeft Rafik Dammak het volgende geschreven: > > Hi everyone, > > First let me welcome Tapani as the new NCUC representative to the NCSG replacing Milton. I want to thank Milton for his 4 years in the EC with us, you will be missed! > > Second, I am listing some actions items for the EC: > - next EC call: as agreed we should have our EC call in the last friday of the month. However for this time we also have a 1 hour meeting in Singapore. > > Lori is not able to come to Singapore and I am not sure for Tapani. So can we use that session for applications review or shall we postpone the review to ad hoc call in 20th february, to give you more time to go through the applications. We can use the Singapore session for some strategic planning for this year. > > - Regarding the applications review please check the spreadsheets: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc#gid=6 & https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 > > > @Tapani if you agree we can have short call to explain how we proceed for the review so you can catch up. > > - We still have some material to review and need EC members input: > > link to a mockup of membership application form: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uPzS7nxQkGgndirN8JM_E067DXz42uXWKcBClxAd4KY/edit > I shared it previously and resending it here. we discussed during the call about some info to ask to individuals e.g to highlight their "non-commercialness". also improving the form such as with mail notification when we receive new application . > @Lori please check if you have the full access and see the whole form in a single page. > > process flowchart draft: I instructed Maryam to draft one so we can post it in the application page to clarify to applicants about the process and expectations in term of time response. we are trying to improve the review period , by having our regular call by the last friday of each month. I will send soon the new applications and also list of pending applications to which we need to make final decision. > Maryam created a logo for NCSG and that can be good for NCSG branding. she followed the ICANN graphic guidelines but we should make our own changes. > ICANN will support us to have flyers before ICANN meetings, we won't make it for singapore but at least we got a draft to start with. please share your ideas and suggestions > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As I?m not using microsoft office > the .docx looks a bit weird when viewed with libreoffice. > > Kind regards, > > Rudi Vansnick > Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) > www.npoc.org > > rudi.vansnick at npoc.org > Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 > Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 > > > > Op 26-jan.-2015, om 02:13 heeft Rafik Dammak het > volgende geschreven: > > Hi everyone, > > First let me welcome Tapani as the new NCUC representative to the NCSG > replacing Milton. I want to thank Milton for his 4 years in the EC with us, > you will be missed! > > Second, I am listing some actions items for the EC: > - next EC call: as agreed we should have our EC call in the last friday of > the month. However for this time we also have a 1 hour meeting in Singapore. > > Lori is not able to come to Singapore and I am not sure for Tapani. So can > we use that session for applications review or shall we postpone the review > to ad hoc call in 20th february, to give you more time to go through the > applications. We can use the Singapore session for some strategic planning > for this year. > > - Regarding the applications review please check the spreadsheets: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc#gid=6 > & > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 > > > > @Tapani if you agree we can have short call to explain how we proceed for > the review so you can catch up. > > - We still have some material to review and need EC members input: > > - link to a mockup of membership application form: > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uPzS7nxQkGgndirN8JM_E067DXz42uXWKcBClxAd4KY/edit > I shared it previously and resending it here. we discussed during the call > about some info to ask to individuals e.g to highlight their > "non-commercialness". also improving the form such as with mail > notification when we receive new application . > @Lori please check if you have the full access and see the whole form in a > single page. > > > - process flowchart draft: I instructed Maryam to draft one so we can > post it in the application page to clarify to applicants about the process > and expectations in term of time response. we are trying to improve the > review period , by having our regular call by the last friday of each > month. I will send soon the new applications and also list of pending > applications to which we need to make final decision. > > > - Maryam created a logo for NCSG and that can be good for NCSG > branding. she followed the ICANN graphic guidelines but we should make our > own changes. > > > - ICANN will support us to have flyers before ICANN meetings, we won't > make it for singapore but at least we got a draft to start with. please > share your ideas and suggestions > > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > > Process v1.docx>_______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think if there is any follow-up about complaints regarding PIC infringement, the best person to contact would likely be Allen Grogan at allen.grogan at icann.org. Best, Rob From: Allen Grogan Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM To: Fadi Chehade Subject: Re: 3rd party Yes, anyone can submit a complaint to ICANN contractual compliance about an alleged failure to comply with a PIC, and ICANN contractual compliance will investigate the complaint. Complaints may be submitted to compliance at icann.org. Regards, Allen R. Grogan Chief Contract Compliance Officer direct: + 1 310 578-8932 mobile: +1 310 795-8206 allen.grogan at icann.org 12025 Waterfront Drive Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 United States of America From: Fadi Chehade Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:32 PM To: Allen Grogan Subject: 3rd party Allen, I need to get back to a community member with this question: ?can an NGO or a 3rd party file a complaint about a PIC infringement? 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