[EC-NCSG] Preparation for NCSG Webinar on CCWG Accountability

[Avri Doria]

Do you think we have NCSG support for rejecting Recommendation 1 and
participation of the GAC.  Do we really know the views of the
stakeholder group on any of the recommendations?  Have we had full
conversation on all views on Discuss list?

I do not think that there has been enough discussion on the NCSG list
for you to make any rejection claim in the name of the NCSG.  There had
not even been a PC discussion of all issues as far as I know.

/our comments cannot be based on the strong positions on ICANN  of just
a few.  There are a lot of compromises in this draft and we will just as
likely lose things we value as fix things we are not fully comfortable
view as we reopen issues.

avri


On 19-Dec-15 08:18, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
> Needs more work indeed. As someone said we are not being asked to vote up or down on the whole proposal at this point, we are being asked about specific recommendations. In each case we made it clear why we were opposed. For example recommendation one which I wrote says that we can support an empowered community but we do not support the inclusion of the GAC. On some of the recs we are unlikely to get the changes we want but at this stage it's good to make it clear where we stand.
>
> Milton L Mueller
> Professor, School of Public Policy
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 18:18, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
>>
>> Personally I would see these as needs more work issues, and I wouldn?t support rejecting the proposal as it stands. I would support coming out strongly in favour of the realisation that the work is not perfect and some issues need to be worked on more now or potentially for some issues in implementaiton.
>>
>> -JG
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>>> On 19/12/2015, 9:59 a.m., "Matthew Shears" <mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I see that we are proposing rejecting 4 of the 12 recommendations. Are 
>>> we rejecting them and/or are we proposing changes to them or further work.
>>>
>>> If we are rejecting 4 of the 12 are we rejecting the proposal as a whole?
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>> On 07/12/2015 20:21, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> You are receiving this email because I?ve asked you to propose the beginnings of an NCSG response to one of the CCWG Accountability recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the list of the 12 recommendations and also the name of the NCSG person who has been asked to provide the initial response:
>>>>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> You can either send me your text or talking points on a particular recommendation and I?ll add it into this master document, or you can add it yourself since everyone should have editing privileges to the 12 draft responses.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you can all join the NCSG webinar tomorrow at 16:00 UTC so we can discuss the report and our responses in more detail.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Robin
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Matthew Shears
>>> Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
>>> Center for Democracy & Technology
>>> mshears at cdt.org
>>> + 44 771 247 2987
>>>
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