From ncsg Fri Dec 4 16:22:58 2015 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:22:58 +0200 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC In-Reply-To: <44e56f7d8c54429391dd48e97a8e55f3@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> References: <44e56f7d8c54429391dd48e97a8e55f3@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> Message-ID: <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> Dear all, My apologies for not having prepared an agenda earlier, but better late than never, here's what I've got in mind for today, at least you get a half-hour warning: * EC decision-making procedures: when and how we could make decisions by email * member database solution: proposing small ad-hoc working group * member application processing now: some ideas to improve things while waiting for the new solution * new and pending applications That's probably quite enough for one call. -- Tapani Tarvainen From Monika.Zalnieriute Fri Dec 4 17:00:03 2015 From: Monika.Zalnieriute (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 15:00:03 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC In-Reply-To: <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> References: <44e56f7d8c54429391dd48e97a8e55f3@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>, <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Thanks Tapani, indeed this is very helpful! ok, in several minutes, I should be able to connect, but do not be over suprised if nothing happens, as Laos has so far proved country of 'no worries', so my desperate asking for better wifi or location for it brings a curious face on the locals and thats it:) Best, Monika ---- Dr. Monika Zalnieriute C I H R : Centre for Internet & Human Rights I a: Mittelweg 50, 12053 Berlin, Germany I e: monika.zalnieriute at eui.eu I p: +37062852809 |? w: cihr.eu I Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I a: Vilnius Str. 14 - 7, LT ? 01402, Vilnius, Lithuania | f: www.facebook.com/zephiroplatform | w: zephiroplatform.wix.com/main | e: zephirplatform at gmail.com | p: +37062852809 | ________________________________________ From: EC-NCSG [ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen [ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info] Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 2:22 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC Dear all, My apologies for not having prepared an agenda earlier, but better late than never, here's what I've got in mind for today, at least you get a half-hour warning: * EC decision-making procedures: when and how we could make decisions by email * member database solution: proposing small ad-hoc working group * member application processing now: some ideas to improve things while waiting for the new solution * new and pending applications That's probably quite enough for one call. -- Tapani Tarvainen _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From Monika.Zalnieriute Fri Dec 4 18:51:34 2015 From: Monika.Zalnieriute (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:51:34 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC In-Reply-To: <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> References: <44e56f7d8c54429391dd48e97a8e55f3@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>, <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Dear all, Thank You all very much for the call - is was a very novel experience for me, and I hope I can talk next time as well, not just listen and type:) Thank You all once again = it was a nice talk, and lets talk soon and lets get some work done:) Will be waiting for the info on the next call:) Best wishes from Laos, Monika ---- Dr. Monika Zalnieriute C I H R : Centre for Internet & Human Rights I a: Mittelweg 50, 12053 Berlin, Germany I e: monika.zalnieriute at eui.eu I p: +37062852809 |? w: cihr.eu I Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I a: Vilnius Str. 14 - 7, LT ? 01402, Vilnius, Lithuania | f: www.facebook.com/zephiroplatform | w: zephiroplatform.wix.com/main | e: zephirplatform at gmail.com | p: +37062852809 | ________________________________________ From: EC-NCSG on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 2:22 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC Dear all, My apologies for not having prepared an agenda earlier, but better late than never, here's what I've got in mind for today, at least you get a half-hour warning: * EC decision-making procedures: when and how we could make decisions by email * member database solution: proposing small ad-hoc working group * member application processing now: some ideas to improve things while waiting for the new solution * new and pending applications That's probably quite enough for one call. -- Tapani Tarvainen _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From ncsg Fri Dec 4 19:09:57 2015 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 19:09:57 +0200 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG EC Call | 04 December 2015 | 1500 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <44e56f7d8c54429391dd48e97a8e55f3@PMBX112-E1-VA-2.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> <20151204142258.GD32674@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <20151204170957.GC7746@tarvainen.info> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 04:51:34PM +0000, Zalnieriute, Monika (Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu) wrote: > Thank You all very much for the call - is was a very novel experience for me, and I hope I can talk next time as well, not just listen and type:) > > Thank You all once again = it was a nice talk, I take that to mean you didn't find it too confusing. Good. :-) > and lets talk soon and lets get some work done:) Let's. > Will be waiting for the info on the next call:) Presently planned for January 8, same time. 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URL: From Monika.Zalnieriute Tue Dec 15 15:19:09 2015 From: Monika.Zalnieriute (Zalnieriute, Monika) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:19:09 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Next EC meeting hour In-Reply-To: <20151215123513.GO3842@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20151215123513.GO3842@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Hi All, I understand that it might be inconvenient for Robin to do talks earlier ( still dont know whats the time in SF then).but for me having a talk starting at midnight and finishing at 02 at night will generally be too late:( Let me see what could be done, Best wishes, Monika ---- Dr. Monika Zalnieriute C I H R : Centre for Internet & Human Rights I a: Mittelweg 50, 12053 Berlin, Germany I e: monika.zalnieriute at eui.eu I p: +37062852809 |? w: cihr.eu I Z E P H I R O : Progressive Platform for Human Rights I a: Vilnius Str. 14 - 7, LT ? 01402, Vilnius, Lithuania | f: www.facebook.com/zephiroplatform | w: zephiroplatform.wix.com/main | e: zephirplatform at gmail.com | p: +37062852809 | ________________________________________ From: EC-NCSG [ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen [ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:35 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: [EC-NCSG] Next EC meeting hour Dear all, We agreed to have our next call on January 8, but we have a little leeway in the hour: it might be convenient to have it a bit later, say 1500 or 1600 UTC. Maryam, could you set up doodle for that? Thanks, -- Tapani Tarvainen _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From ncsg Tue Dec 15 16:29:40 2015 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:29:40 +0200 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: FW: IMPORTANT DEADLINES for ICANN55 Special Budget Requests Publications Message-ID: <20151215142940.GD15576@tarvainen.info> FYI. If you have ideas or suggestions for printing something for NCSG, here're the deadlines. Tapani ----- Forwarded message ----- From: Natalie Schoer > Hello Tapani ICANN55 Marrakech will take place from March 05 - 10, and although that date is a few months away, we want to ensure your publications are delivered on-time. We have established two deadlines, depending on your request type: January 10, 2015: Deadline if you need your publication DESIGNED and PRINTED. If you require design assistance for your publication, you need to provide all the text, images, layout and publication type/size requirements (i.e. newsletter vs. 1-pager vs. tri-fold, etc.) by January 10th. February 05, 2015: Deadline if you ONLY NEED your publication PRINTED. If you only need your publication printed, meaning your publication is ready to send directly to the printer and needs no design or layout modifications, please provide the file to us along with the quantity you want printed and dimensions of the publication by Februrary 05th. These deadlines may seem early, but we need enough time for the publications to be designed and/or printed, as well as providing enough time for shipping. If you do not have any requests for ICANN55, please send us a note informing us that you will not need anything designed and/or printed for the upcoming meeting. Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. We appreciate your understanding and cooperation. All the best, Natalie Natalie email: natalie.schoer at icann.org phone: +1 310 795 7285 Jana email: jana.juginovic at icann.org phone: +1 310 383 8194 ------------ ----- End forwarded message ----- From ncsg Sun Dec 27 18:22:30 2015 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:22:30 +0200 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] IICD Closing and request for email change Message-ID: <20151227162229.GA20466@roller.tarvainen.info> All, I guess it's rather obvious we cannot accept this request as such, commercial companies being ineligible for NCSG membership, but we could suggest that he apply for individual membership instead. Formally it'd mean terminating IICD membership and accepting him as a new member, but in practice it can anyway be done without interrupting his list subscriptions. We can formally accept his new membership in our next meeting, but if we can agree on the list now we don't need to spend time debating it during the call. Opinions? -- Tapani Tarvainen (still on vacation but reading email every now and then) ----- Forwarded message from Andrei Barburas ----- Good day to all, Allow me to begin by wishing you happy holidays and a fruitful and successful new year. On another note, nearly 20 years after its foundation, IICD will cease operations in The Hague, The Netherlands The IICD legacy website aims to celebrate and leave a testimony of IICD?s record of work. It includes an online archive of publications, a collection of highlighted resources, descriptions of our key areas of work, and more information on our ICT-led Social Innovation Process. As a result, I would kindly ask you to switch my membership from my IICD representation to my own company, BARBURAS , which also partly handles Cyber Security Consultancies and its policies and procedures development. Changing my membership also implies the change of the email address that is in the membership list. Please let me know if there is anything else that might be needed from my side. Until then, my warm regards and wishes for the next anno domini that is almost among us. *Andrei Barburas* IO M: +31 62 928 2879 International Institute for Communication and Development (IICD) *Nearly 20 years after its foundation, IICD will cease operations in The Hague. * *The IICD legacy website aims to celebrate and leave a testimony of IICD?s record of work. It includes an online archive of publications, a collection of highlighted resources, descriptions of our key areas of work, and more information on our ICT-led Social Innovation Process.* This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only. The unauthorized disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its content is not permitted. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ----- End forwarded message ----- From robin Mon Dec 7 22:22:01 2015 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:22:01 -0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Preparation for NCSG Webinar on CCWG Accountability Message-ID: <980A024C-6103-4ABB-96EA-F51BBD0F1FDE@ipjustice.org> Hello, You are receiving this email because I?ve asked you to propose the beginnings of an NCSG response to one of the CCWG Accountability recommendations. Here is the list of the 12 recommendations and also the name of the NCSG person who has been asked to provide the initial response: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?usp=sharing You can either send me your text or talking points on a particular recommendation and I?ll add it into this master document, or you can add it yourself since everyone should have editing privileges to the 12 draft responses. I hope you can all join the NCSG webinar tomorrow at 16:00 UTC so we can discuss the report and our responses in more detail. Thank you! Robin From robin Wed Dec 16 23:59:50 2015 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:59:50 -0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Preparation for NCSG Webinar on CCWG Accountability In-Reply-To: <980A024C-6103-4ABB-96EA-F51BBD0F1FDE@ipjustice.org> References: <980A024C-6103-4ABB-96EA-F51BBD0F1FDE@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Thanks for the texts and edits in the drafts and for the two good calls to review the responses in the last week. Please get all comments and edits in to the responses to ccwg recommendations in the Google docs by Friday EOB: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?usp=sharing Thank you! Robin > On Dec 7, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Hello, > > You are receiving this email because I?ve asked you to propose the beginnings of an NCSG response to one of the CCWG Accountability recommendations. > > Here is the list of the 12 recommendations and also the name of the NCSG person who has been asked to provide the initial response: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?usp=sharing > > You can either send me your text or talking points on a particular recommendation and I?ll add it into this master document, or you can add it yourself since everyone should have editing privileges to the 12 draft responses. > > I hope you can all join the NCSG webinar tomorrow at 16:00 UTC so we can discuss the report and our responses in more detail. > > Thank you! > Robin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Sat Dec 19 16:11:25 2015 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:11:25 -0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Preparation for NCSG Webinar on CCWG Accountability In-Reply-To: References: <980A024C-6103-4ABB-96EA-F51BBD0F1FDE@ipjustice.org> <56752A87.1000709@cdt.org> <9A0F83A9-5AD7-4363-AE11-7A298E929ACD@cyberinvasion.net> Message-ID: <56756585.80304@acm.org> Do you think we have NCSG support for rejecting Recommendation 1 and participation of the GAC. Do we really know the views of the stakeholder group on any of the recommendations? Have we had full conversation on all views on Discuss list? I do not think that there has been enough discussion on the NCSG list for you to make any rejection claim in the name of the NCSG. There had not even been a PC discussion of all issues as far as I know. /our comments cannot be based on the strong positions on ICANN of just a few. There are a lot of compromises in this draft and we will just as likely lose things we value as fix things we are not fully comfortable view as we reopen issues. avri On 19-Dec-15 08:18, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > Needs more work indeed. As someone said we are not being asked to vote up or down on the whole proposal at this point, we are being asked about specific recommendations. In each case we made it clear why we were opposed. For example recommendation one which I wrote says that we can support an empowered community but we do not support the inclusion of the GAC. On some of the recs we are unlikely to get the changes we want but at this stage it's good to make it clear where we stand. > > Milton L Mueller > Professor, School of Public Policy > Georgia Institute of Technology > >> On Dec 19, 2015, at 18:18, James Gannon wrote: >> >> Personally I would see these as needs more work issues, and I wouldn?t support rejecting the proposal as it stands. I would support coming out strongly in favour of the realisation that the work is not perfect and some issues need to be worked on more now or potentially for some issues in implementaiton. >> >> -JG >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 19/12/2015, 9:59 a.m., "Matthew Shears" wrote: >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I see that we are proposing rejecting 4 of the 12 recommendations. Are >>> we rejecting them and/or are we proposing changes to them or further work. >>> >>> If we are rejecting 4 of the 12 are we rejecting the proposal as a whole? >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>>> On 07/12/2015 20:21, Robin Gross wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> You are receiving this email because I?ve asked you to propose the beginnings of an NCSG response to one of the CCWG Accountability recommendations. >>>> >>>> Here is the list of the 12 recommendations and also the name of the NCSG person who has been asked to provide the initial response: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> You can either send me your text or talking points on a particular recommendation and I?ll add it into this master document, or you can add it yourself since everyone should have editing privileges to the 12 draft responses. >>>> >>>> I hope you can all join the NCSG webinar tomorrow at 16:00 UTC so we can discuss the report and our responses in more detail. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> Robin >>> -- >>> >>> Matthew Shears >>> Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>> Center for Democracy & Technology >>> mshears at cdt.org >>> + 44 771 247 2987 >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus