From mllemineur Mon Nov 4 18:46:33 2013 From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:46:33 -0600 Subject: [EC-NCSG] membership review Message-ID: Dear Rafik, Lori has tried to review the membership applications but has had problems editing the google doc. Could you please double check if she has the editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do it despite several intents. Best, Marie-laure -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could you please double check if she has the > editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like > to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do > it despite several intents. > > Best, > > Marie-laure > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lori.schulman Tue Nov 5 06:29:46 2013 From: lori.schulman (Lori Schulman) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 04:29:46 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] membership review In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I am using a gmail address. Lschulman at schulmanlegal.com Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "Rafik Dammak" > wrote: Hi Marie-Laure, I already checked and Lori has the edits rights like everybody in EC, I asked her if she has any alternate gmail mail address to add(she is the only one not using a gmail address so I suspect it as the root cause ) Best, Rafik 2013/11/5 marie-laure Lemineur > Dear Rafik, Lori has tried to review the membership applications but has had problems editing the google doc. Could you please double check if she has the editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do it despite several intents. Best, Marie-laure _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg "Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD's 69th Annual Conference, March 15-17, in Los Angeles, Calif. Choose from more than 350 professional development sessions, featuring the most respected education leaders and experts, including Sir Ken Robinson, Russell Quaglia, Daniel Pink, Tony Wagner, Carl Glickman, and Jane McGonigal. Register now for early bird discounting at www.ascd.org/annualconference." This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the person(s) to whom it has been sent, and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, you are not authorized to copy, distribute, or otherwise use this message or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this message and any attachments. ASCD makes no guarantee that this e-mail is error or virus free. From lori.schulman Tue Nov 5 06:30:27 2013 From: lori.schulman (Lori Schulman) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 04:30:27 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] membership review In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: I d Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "Lori Schulman" wrote: > I am using a gmail address. Lschulman at schulmanlegal.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "Rafik Dammak" > wrote: > > Hi Marie-Laure, > > I already checked and Lori has the edits rights like everybody in EC, I asked her if she has any alternate gmail mail address to add(she is the only one not using a gmail address so I suspect it as the root cause ) > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2013/11/5 marie-laure Lemineur > > Dear Rafik, > > Lori has tried to review the membership applications but has had problems editing the google doc. Could you please double check if she has the editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do it despite several intents. > > Best, > > Marie-laure > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > "Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD's 69th Annual Conference, March 15-17, in Los Angeles, Calif. Choose from more than 350 professional development sessions, featuring the most respected education leaders and experts, including Sir Ken Robinson, Russell Quaglia, Daniel Pink, Tony Wagner, Carl Glickman, and Jane McGonigal. 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From lori.schulman Tue Nov 5 06:31:27 2013 From: lori.schulman (Lori Schulman) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 04:31:27 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] membership review In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: I didn't see your response. I do have a gmail address. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:30 PM, "Lori Schulman" wrote: > I am using a gmail address. Lschulman at schulmanlegal.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "Rafik Dammak" > wrote: > > Hi Marie-Laure, > > I already checked and Lori has the edits rights like everybody in EC, I asked her if she has any alternate gmail mail address to add(she is the only one not using a gmail address so I suspect it as the root cause ) > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2013/11/5 marie-laure Lemineur > > Dear Rafik, > > Lori has tried to review the membership applications but has had problems editing the google doc. Could you please double check if she has the editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do it despite several intents. > > Best, > > Marie-laure > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > "Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD's 69th Annual Conference, March 15-17, in Los Angeles, Calif. Choose from more than 350 professional development sessions, featuring the most respected education leaders and experts, including Sir Ken Robinson, Russell Quaglia, Daniel Pink, Tony Wagner, Carl Glickman, and Jane McGonigal. Register now for early bird discounting at www.ascd.org/annualconference." > > > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of > > the person(s) to whom it has been sent, and may contain information that is > > confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient or > > have received this message in error, you are not authorized to copy, > distribute, or otherwise use this message or its attachments. Please notify the > sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this message and any > > attachments. ASCD makes no guarantee that this e-mail is error or virus free. > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg ?Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD?s 69th Annual Conference, March 15?17, in Los Angeles, Calif. 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From rafik.dammak Tue Nov 5 06:31:30 2013 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:31:30 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] membership review In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Lori, added, can you please check? Rafik 2013/11/5 Lori Schulman > I am using a gmail address. Lschulman at schulmanlegal.com Lschulman at schulmanlegal.com> > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "Rafik Dammak" > wrote: > > Hi Marie-Laure, > > I already checked and Lori has the edits rights like everybody in EC, I > asked her if she has any alternate gmail mail address to add(she is the > only one not using a gmail address so I suspect it as the root cause ) > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2013/11/5 marie-laure Lemineur mllemineur at gmail.com>> > Dear Rafik, > > Lori has tried to review the membership applications but has had problems > editing the google doc. Could you please double check if she has the > editing rights or see if this is due to some other problem.She would like > to be able to wrap this up as soon as possible but has not been able to do > it despite several intents. > > Best, > > Marie-laure > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > "Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD's 69th Annual Conference, > March 15-17, in Los Angeles, Calif. Choose from more than 350 professional > development sessions, featuring the most respected education leaders and > experts, including Sir Ken Robinson, Russell Quaglia, Daniel Pink, Tony > Wagner, Carl Glickman, and Jane McGonigal. 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URL: From robin Fri Nov 8 20:06:15 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:06:15 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions References: Message-ID: <4526BC1D-80C6-489E-B0D4-63FD8837C32F@ipjustice.org> ICANN is organizing a "hot topics" session to take place during the Buenos Aires meeting on the issue of the Montevideo Statement and pre-Brazil activities with a sub-theme of preservation of the bottom-up model for policy development (see below). ICANN is suggesting a representative from each of the GNSO stakeholder groups to participate in the discussion in BA (along with other SO's / AC's) and I'd like to volunteer to participate in the discussion for NCSG, as preservation of ICANN's bottom-up model is a main focus of my own ICANN activities. Any objections or other suggestions? Should be an interesting discussion in BA. Thanks, Robin Begin forwarded message: > From: David Olive > Subject: SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions > Date: November 8, 2013 9:51:06 AM PST > To: Heather Dryden , Jonathan Robinson , Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond , Patrik F?ltstr?m , "Jun Murai" , Lars-Johan Liman , Louis Lee , Paul Wilson , Byron Holland , "Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com" , 'Tony Holmes' , "krosette at cov.com" , "robin at ipjustice.org" , "william.drake at uzh.ch" , "mllemineur at gmail.com" , 'Michele Neylon - Blacknight' , "kdrazek at verisign.com" , "ceo at auda.org.au" > Cc: Robert Hoggarth , Sally Costerton , Nick Tomasso , "Tanzanica S. King" , Susie Johnson , Duncan Burns , Brad White , Nigel Hickson , Theresa Swinehart , Baher Esmat , Tarek Kamel > > Dear SO-AC Leaders: > > Based on the various reactions several of you have provided regarding the topic feedback and other information I shared on Monday, set forth below are confirmed recommendations and some new information regarding the SO-AC Hot Topic session currently scheduled for Monday morning in Buenos Aires. We appreciate your understanding and patience as we re-boot this joint community session. Please check the body of this note below to make sure you?ve identified the additional information we?ll need from you soon. > > Confirmed Topic: > > We are moving forward with the following single topic ? ?Evolution of Internet Governance - Montevideo Statement and ICANN?s Post-Bali/Pre-Brazil Activities ? Methods and Objectives?. A sub theme that session participants may wish to incorporate into the discussion includes ?preservation of the bottom-up policy development process.? > > Confirmed Moderator: > > Brad White has graciously agreed to serve as moderator for the session. He and Rob are working on fleshing out the ?short? statement format discussed during the preparation planning call and implementing the ?tweeting? concept a number of you enjoyed brainstorming on during the preparation call. Red, green and even blue sheets of paper are on-order. > > Community Representation On Stage: > > A number of you made some good points about the challenges of having fair community representation on stage. Unfortunately it is a challenge to balance representation with a manageable number of designated community representatives on the stage. We are going to go with the original suggestion of a maximum two (2) reps each from each of the ASO, ccNSO, GAC, SSAC and RSSAC communities, and include a maximum of four (4) participants from the GNSO (one per Stakeholder Group) and a maximum of 5 from At-Large (one per RALO). > > We understand the concerns about providing speaking opportunities for as many people as possible, but Brad says even the number of 19 participants will be hard to manage and, if we are going to include audience participation, not everyone will likely have equal time to speak. You will not be penalized if you choose to designate fewer than the maximum number of participants to your community. > > Please provide the names of your designated speakers/participants as soon as possible to Rob Hoggarth at Robert.hoggarth at icann.org. Please, no later than 5pm (local time in Beunos Aires) next Friday, 15 November. > > Session Format: > > Although initial introductions will likely be important for the audience and the scribes, rather than commit to opening statements (even if we limit a single statement from each SO and AC represented to only 5 minutes per community we will use up 35 minutes before we even get to a discussion), Brad suggests that we try to immediately jump into the discussion. I agree. The real value of the session will be in the public, real-time exchange of ideas and opinions between and among your communities. The quicker that can start, the more interesting and dynamic the session will be. We also hope to have several Board members and Senior ICANN staff in the session room. We will make sure they are identified, so there should be opportunities to engage with them or ask questions during the session. > > Keeping the theme of short, crisp ?tweet-like? statements in mind, Rob and I will work with Brad on developing a flow to the session that creates the best opportunities for dialogue. Brad and I believe it is important to distinguish this session from the typical Thursday Public Forum format. > > Brad would like to meet with all the session participants near the front of the room about 20 minutes before the session begins to manage expectations and to go over logistics of the session. > > Potential Scheduling Issues: > > As Jonathan pointed out in his recent email, there is potential confusion/conflict between other sessions at the same time and other sessions that will touch generally on Internet governance issues taking place that day. Unfortunately the schedule, as usual, is very tight and there are limited options to move any sessions to avoid conflicts. So far, it just hasn?t been possible to find good alternatives for any of the other scheduled sessions. We think the unique nature of this session and the importance of the issue will provide some great audience interaction and a good opportunity for dialogue. > > > As usual, your comments, thoughts and observations are welcomed. Its not too late to investigate further tweaks to our session preparations. > > Thank you for your support of the re-boot of this joint community effort. We hope the session will be a great learning experience for all and that we?ll identify ways to make it even better in Singapore. > > Best regards, > > David > -- > David A. Olive > Vice President, Policy Development Support > General Manager, ICANN Regional Headquarters ?Istanbul > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5 > 34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey > > Tel: +90.212.381.8727 - Fax: +90.212.381.8731 - Mobile: +1. 202.341.3611 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1C3073A1-FE98-4F72-BD32-7973F4034728[58].png Type: image/png Size: 2793 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From mllemineur Fri Nov 8 20:44:17 2013 From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:44:17 -0600 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions In-Reply-To: <4526BC1D-80C6-489E-B0D4-63FD8837C32F@ipjustice.org> References: <4526BC1D-80C6-489E-B0D4-63FD8837C32F@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: No objection. Marie-laure On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > ICANN is organizing a "hot topics" session to take place during the Buenos > Aires meeting on the issue of the Montevideo Statement and pre-Brazil > activities with a sub-theme of preservation of the bottom-up model for > policy development (see below). ICANN is suggesting a representative from > each of the GNSO stakeholder groups to participate in the discussion in BA > (along with other SO's / AC's) and I'd like to volunteer to participate in > the discussion for NCSG, as preservation of ICANN's bottom-up model is a > main focus of my own ICANN activities. Any objections or other > suggestions? Should be an interesting discussion in BA. > > Thanks, > Robin > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *David Olive > *Subject: **SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions* > *Date: *November 8, 2013 9:51:06 AM PST > *To: *Heather Dryden , Jonathan Robinson < > jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond , > Patrik F?ltstr?m , "Jun Murai" , > Lars-Johan Liman , Louis Lee , Paul > Wilson , Byron Holland , " > Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com" , 'Tony > Holmes' , "krosette at cov.com" < > krosette at cov.com>, "robin at ipjustice.org" , " > william.drake at uzh.ch" , "mllemineur at gmail.com" < > mllemineur at gmail.com>, 'Michele Neylon - Blacknight' < > michele at blacknight.com>, "kdrazek at verisign.com" , " > ceo at auda.org.au" > *Cc: *Robert Hoggarth , Sally Costerton < > sally.costerton at icann.org>, Nick Tomasso , > "Tanzanica S. King" , Susie Johnson < > susie.johnson at icann.org>, Duncan Burns , Brad > White , Nigel Hickson , > Theresa Swinehart , Baher Esmat < > baher.esmat at icann.org>, Tarek Kamel > > Dear SO-AC Leaders: > > Based on the various reactions several of you have provided regarding the > topic feedback and other information I shared on Monday, set forth below > are confirmed recommendations and some new information regarding the SO-AC > Hot Topic session currently scheduled for Monday morning in Buenos Aires. > We appreciate your understanding and patience as we re-boot this joint > community session. Please check the body of this note below to make sure > you?ve identified the additional information we?ll need from you soon. > > *Confirmed Topic:* > > We are moving forward with the following single topic ? ?Evolution of > Internet Governance - Montevideo Statement and ICANN?s Post-Bali/Pre-Brazil > Activities ? Methods and Objectives?. A sub theme that session > participants may wish to incorporate into the discussion includes > ?preservation of the bottom-up policy development process.? > > *Confirmed Moderator:* > > Brad White has graciously agreed to serve as moderator for the session. > He and Rob are working on fleshing out the ?short? statement format > discussed during the preparation planning call and implementing the > ?tweeting? concept a number of you enjoyed brainstorming on during the > preparation call. Red, green and even blue sheets of paper are on-order. > > *Community Representation On Stage:* > > A number of you made some good points about the challenges of having fair > community representation on stage. Unfortunately it is a challenge to > balance representation with a manageable number of designated community > representatives on the stage. We are going to go with the original > suggestion of a maximum two (2) reps each from each of the ASO, ccNSO, GAC, > SSAC and RSSAC communities, and include a maximum of four (4) participants > from the GNSO (one per Stakeholder Group) and a maximum of 5 from At-Large > (one per RALO). > > We understand the concerns about providing speaking opportunities for as > many people as possible, but Brad says even the number of 19 participants > will be hard to manage and, if we are going to include audience > participation, not everyone will likely have equal time to speak. You will > not be penalized if you choose to designate fewer than the maximum number > of participants to your community. > > *Please provide the names of your designated speakers/participants as soon > as possible to Rob Hoggarth at **Robert.hoggarth at icann.org**. > Please, no later than 5pm (local time in Beunos Aires) next Friday, 15 > November.* > > *Session Format:* > > Although initial introductions will likely be important for the audience > and the scribes, rather than commit to opening statements (even if we limit > a single statement from each SO and AC represented to only 5 minutes per > community we will use up 35 minutes before we even get to a discussion), > Brad suggests that we try to immediately jump into the discussion. I agree. > The real value of the session will be in the public, real-time exchange of > ideas and opinions between and among your communities. The quicker that can > start, the more interesting and dynamic the session will be. We also hope > to have several Board members and Senior ICANN staff in the session room. > We will make sure they are identified, so there should be opportunities to > engage with them or ask questions during the session. > > Keeping the theme of short, crisp ?tweet-like? statements in mind, Rob and > I will work with Brad on developing a flow to the session that creates the > best opportunities for dialogue. Brad and I believe it is important to > distinguish this session from the typical Thursday Public Forum format. > > Brad would like to meet with all the session participants near the front > of the room about *20 minutes before* the session begins to manage > expectations and to go over logistics of the session. > > *Potential Scheduling Issues:* > > As Jonathan pointed out in his recent email, there is potential > confusion/conflict between other sessions at the same time and other > sessions that will touch generally on Internet governance issues taking > place that day. Unfortunately the schedule, as usual, is very tight and > there are limited options to move any sessions to avoid conflicts. So far, > it just hasn?t been possible to find good alternatives for any of the other > scheduled sessions. We think the unique nature of this session and the > importance of the issue will provide some great audience interaction and a > good opportunity for dialogue. > > > As usual, your comments, thoughts and observations are welcomed. Its not > too late to investigate further tweaks to our session preparations. > > Thank you for your support of the re-boot of this joint community effort. > We hope the session will be a great learning experience for all and that > we?ll identify ways to make it even better in Singapore. > > Best regards, > > David > -- > David A. Olive > > *Vice President, Policy Development SupportGeneral Manager, ICANN Regional > Headquarters ?Istanbul* > > > *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)* > *Hakki Yeten Cad. Selenium Plaza No:10/C K:5* > *34349 Fulya, Besiktas, Istanbul, Turkey * > > *Tel: +90.212.381.8727 <%2B90.212.381.8727> - Fax: +90.212.381.8731 > <%2B90.212.381.8731> - Mobile: +1. 202.341.3611 <%2B1.%20202.341.3611>* > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1C3073A1-FE98-4F72-BD32-7973F4034728[58].png Type: image/png Size: 2793 bytes Desc: not available URL: From robin Sat Nov 9 00:39:58 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 14:39:58 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: Update on Reconsideration Request 13-11 References: Message-ID: <817F95BC-5B5A-4F71-A1D8-5DA9D702E76E@ipjustice.org> ICANN has denied our Recon Request about its claim that all info related to TM+50 decision making is secret. Of course it first mischaracterized our argument so it could dismiss them. What an "accountability mechanism" these Recon Requests are turning out to be. The defendant is also the judge. No wonder not a single one has ever succeeded in moving ICANN staff. Robin Begin forwarded message: > From: "Reconsideration@ ICANN" > Subject: Update on Reconsideration Request 13-11 > Date: November 7, 2013 10:33:37 AM PST > To: > > Dear Ms. Gross, > > Please be advised that the Board Governance Committee's Determination on Reconsideration Request 13-11, issued on 29 October 2013, was posted this morning and is available at http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/governance/reconsideration/determination-ncsg-29oct13-en.pdf. > > Best regards, > ICANN > 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 > Los Angeles, CA 90094 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Of course it first mischaracterized our argument so it could dismiss them. What an "accountability mechanism" these Recon Requests are turning out to be. The defendant is also the judge. No wonder not a single one has ever succeeded in moving ICANN staff. > > Robin > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Reconsideration@ ICANN" >> Subject: Update on Reconsideration Request 13-11 >> Date: November 7, 2013 10:33:37 AM PST >> To: >> >> Dear Ms. Gross, >> >> Please be advised that the Board Governance Committee's Determination on Reconsideration Request 13-11, issued on 29 October 2013, was posted this morning and is available at http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/governance/reconsideration/determination-ncsg-29oct13-en.pdf. >> >> Best regards, >> ICANN >> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 >> Los Angeles, CA 90094 >> > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, (as always) I'm keeping track of NCSG mtg / discussion topics here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dHN4SURHZUZSSUswQ3BJXzl4ZWUzNXc&usp=sharing Thanks! Robin _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg "Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD's 69th Annual Conference, March 15-17, in Los Angeles, Calif. Choose from more than 350 professional development sessions, featuring the most respected education leaders and experts, including Sir Ken Robinson, Russell Quaglia, Daniel Pink, Tony Wagner, Carl Glickman, and Jane McGonigal. Register now for early bird discounting at www.ascd.org/annualconference." This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the person(s) to whom it has been sent, and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, you are not authorized to copy, distribute, or otherwise use this message or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete this message and any attachments. ASCD makes no guarantee that this e-mail is error or virus free. From avri Mon Nov 11 18:20:43 2013 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:20:43 -0500 Subject: [EC-NCSG] [PC-NCSG] Fwd: SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions In-Reply-To: References: <4526BC1D-80C6-489E-B0D4-63FD8837C32F@ipjustice.org> <67EF8956-17B8-4AC7-A6BB-1A96BADEDE16@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <12C451EB-B0B8-4EFC-9FF2-2FDBAD7A8AAE@ella.com> +1 On 11 Nov 2013, at 10:49, Maria Farrell wrote: > Hi Robin > > I support your being the volunteer. > > Thanks, Maria > > > On 8 November 2013 19:13, Amr Elsadr wrote: > No objection here either, Robin. Thanks for volunteering. > > Amr > > On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:44 PM, marie-laure Lemineur wrote: > >> No objection. >> >> Marie-laure >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> ICANN is organizing a "hot topics" session to take place during the Buenos Aires meeting on the issue of the Montevideo Statement and pre-Brazil activities with a sub-theme of preservation of the bottom-up model for policy development (see below). ICANN is suggesting a representative from each of the GNSO stakeholder groups to participate in the discussion in BA (along with other SO's / AC's) and I'd like to volunteer to participate in the discussion for NCSG, as preservation of ICANN's bottom-up model is a main focus of my own ICANN activities. Any objections or other suggestions? Should be an interesting discussion in BA. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: David Olive >>> Subject: SO-AC Buenos Aires Hot Topic Update/Recommendations/Decisions >>> Date: November 8, 2013 9:51:06 AM PST >>> To: Heather Dryden , Jonathan Robinson , Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond , Patrik F?ltstr?m , "Jun Murai" , Lars-Johan Liman , Louis Lee , Paul Wilson , Byron Holland , "Elisa.Cooper at markmonitor.com" , 'Tony Holmes' , "krosette at cov.com" , "robin at ipjustice.org" , "william.drake at uzh.ch" , "mllemineur at gmail.com" , 'Michele Neylon - Blacknight' , "kdrazek at verisign.com" , "ceo at auda.org.au" >>> Cc: Robert Hoggarth , Sally Costerton , Nick Tomasso , "Tanzanica S. King" , Susie Johnson , Duncan Burns , Brad White , Nigel Hickson , Theresa Swinehart , Baher Esmat , Tarek Kamel >>> >>> Dear SO-AC Leaders: >>> >>> Based on the various reactions several of you have provided regarding the topic feedback and other information I shared on Monday, set forth below are confirmed recommendations and some new information regarding the SO-AC Hot Topic session currently scheduled for Monday morning in Buenos Aires. We appreciate your understanding and patience as we re-boot this joint community session. Please check the body of this note below to make sure you?ve identified the additional information we?ll need from you soon. >>> >>> Confirmed Topic: >>> >>> We are moving forward with the following single topic ? ?Evolution of Internet Governance - Montevideo Statement and ICANN?s Post-Bali/Pre-Brazil Activities ? Methods and Objectives?. A sub theme that session participants may wish to incorporate into the discussion includes ?preservation of the bottom-up policy development process.? >>> >>> Confirmed Moderator: >>> >>> Brad White has graciously agreed to serve as moderator for the session. He and Rob are working on fleshing out the ?short? statement format discussed during the preparation planning call and implementing the ?tweeting? concept a number of you enjoyed brainstorming on during the preparation call. Red, green and even blue sheets of paper are on-order. >>> >>> Community Representation On Stage: >>> >>> A number of you made some good points about the challenges of having fair community representation on stage. Unfortunately it is a challenge to balance representation with a manageable number of designated community representatives on the stage. We are going to go with the original suggestion of a maximum two (2) reps each from each of the ASO, ccNSO, GAC, SSAC and RSSAC communities, and include a maximum of four (4) participants from the GNSO (one per Stakeholder Group) and a maximum of 5 from At-Large (one per RALO). >>> >>> We understand the concerns about providing speaking opportunities for as many people as possible, but Brad says even the number of 19 participants will be hard to manage and, if we are going to include audience participation, not everyone will likely have equal time to speak. You will not be penalized if you choose to designate fewer than the maximum number of participants to your community. >>> >>> Please provide the names of your designated speakers/participants as soon as possible to Rob Hoggarth at Robert.hoggarth at icann.org. Please, no later than 5pm (local time in Beunos Aires) next Friday, 15 November. >>> >>> Session Format: >>> >>> Although initial introductions will likely be important for the audience and the scribes, rather than commit to opening statements (even if we limit a single statement from each SO and AC represented to only 5 minutes per community we will use up 35 minutes before we even get to a discussion), Brad suggests that we try to immediately jump into the discussion. I agree. The real value of the session will be in the public, real-time exchange of ideas and opinions between and among your communities. The quicker that can start, the more interesting and dynamic the session will be. We also hope to have several Board members and Senior ICANN staff in the session room. We will make sure they are identified, so there should be opportunities to engage with them or ask questions during the session. >>> >>> Keeping the theme of short, crisp ?tweet-like? statements in mind, Rob and I will work with Brad on developing a flow to the session that creates the best opportunities for dialogue. Brad and I believe it is important to distinguish this session from the typical Thursday Public Forum format. >>> >>> Brad would like to meet with all the session participants near the front of the room about 20 minutes before the session begins to manage expectations and to go over logistics of the session. >>> >>> Potential Scheduling Issues: >>> >>> As Jonathan pointed out in his recent email, there is potential confusion/conflict between other sessions at the same time and other sessions that will touch generally on Internet governance issues taking place that day. Unfortunately the schedule, as usual, is very tight and there are limited options to move any sessions to avoid conflicts. So far, it just hasn?t been possible to find good alternatives for any of the other scheduled sessions. We think the unique nature of this session and the importance of the issue will provide some great audience interaction and a good opportunity for dialogue. >>> >>> >>> As usual, your comments, thoughts and observations are welcomed. Its not too late to investigate further tweaks to our session preparations. >>> >>> Thank you for your support of the re-boot of this joint community effort. We hope the session will be a great learning experience for all and that we?ll identify ways to make it even better in Singapore. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> David >>> -- >>> David A. Olive >>> Vice President, Policy Development Support >>> General Manager, ICANN Regional Headquarters ?Istanbul >>> >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >>> Hakki Yeten Cad. 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Thanks, Robin See: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/2013-11-20-AGENDA-NCSG-EC-Mtg NCSG Executive Committee Meeting at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires Discussion Agenda I. Membership Issues A. Process B. Applications On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:57 PM, marie-laure Lemineur wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to know if we could organise a special working session to discuss practical measures to improve the membership process. I sent a long emails several weeks ago making concrete proposal as a starting point for further discussion. Rafik mentioned a few days ago that he was working on a different format for the database. Now that we are going to meet F2F in BA where most of the "membership group" will be except for Lori, it seems that it would be a good opportunity to gather and further discuss this matter. As far as I am concerned I do not care about having the meeting recorded with transcript. Please let me know if you agree if you wish to coordinate a meeting so that we agree on a suitable time and date for everyone. > > Best, > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From mllemineur Wed Nov 13 02:21:30 2013 From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:21:30 -0600 Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC In-Reply-To: <831B304B-B6B5-44B7-9BCD-A5836AC963B8@ipjustice.org> References: <831B304B-B6B5-44B7-9BCD-A5836AC963B8@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Robin, Very good. Many thanks. Best, Marie-laure On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Yes, the NCSG-EC meeting is scheduled to discuss these issues at its next > meeting in Buenos Aires: > Wed. 20 November 2013 > 8:30 - 10:00 UTC-3 > > I've requested remote participation so Lori can join the discussion from > the US. > > Rafik will be chairing the discussion; and I'll be there as a participant, > but since Rafik is taking over these responsibilities onThursday, he'll > chair the mtg on Wed. > > Please let me know if you have any other questions or suggestions for this > discussion in the meantime. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > See: > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/2013-11-20-AGENDA-NCSG-EC-Mtg > > *NCSG Executive Committee Meeting at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires* > > *Discussion Agenda* > > I. Membership Issues > > A. Process > > B. Applications > > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:57 PM, marie-laure Lemineur wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to know if we could organise a special working session to > discuss practical measures to improve the membership process. I sent a long > emails several weeks ago making concrete proposal as a starting point for > further discussion. Rafik mentioned a few days ago that he was working on > a different format for the database. Now that we are going to meet F2F in > BA where most of the "membership group" will be except for Lori, it seems > that it would be a good opportunity to gather and further discuss this > matter. As far as I am concerned I do not care about having the meeting > recorded with transcript. Please let me know if you agree if you wish to > coordinate a meeting so that we agree on a suitable time and date for > everyone. > > Best, > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Wed Nov 13 06:34:05 2013 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 04:34:05 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2548F7F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Absolutely! I totally agree that we need this meeting and that it will be very productive for us to set aside enough time for it. I am not filling in on the Council this time (he said nervously looking over his shoulder at Robin) so I should not have trouble finding time for this meeting. Milton Mueller Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of marie-laure Lemineur Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:58 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC Dear colleagues, I would like to know if we could organise a special working session to discuss practical measures to improve the membership process. I sent a long emails several weeks ago making concrete proposal as a starting point for further discussion. Rafik mentioned a few days ago that he was working on a different format for the database. Now that we are going to meet F2F in BA where most of the "membership group" will be except for Lori, it seems that it would be a good opportunity to gather and further discuss this matter. As far as I am concerned I do not care about having the meeting recorded with transcript. Please let me know if you agree if you wish to coordinate a meeting so that we agree on a suitable time and date for everyone. Best, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Wed Nov 13 06:35:54 2013 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 04:35:54 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC In-Reply-To: <831B304B-B6B5-44B7-9BCD-A5836AC963B8@ipjustice.org> References: <831B304B-B6B5-44B7-9BCD-A5836AC963B8@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2548F97@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Sorry, didn't see this before I replied. Good - but I think we may need 2 hours, not just 90 minutes From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:09 PM To: marie-laure Lemineur Cc: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC Yes, the NCSG-EC meeting is scheduled to discuss these issues at its next meeting in Buenos Aires: Wed. 20 November 2013 8:30 - 10:00 UTC-3 I've requested remote participation so Lori can join the discussion from the US. Rafik will be chairing the discussion; and I'll be there as a participant, but since Rafik is taking over these responsibilities onThursday, he'll chair the mtg on Wed. Please let me know if you have any other questions or suggestions for this discussion in the meantime. Thanks, Robin See: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/2013-11-20-AGENDA-NCSG-EC-Mtg NCSG Executive Committee Meeting at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires Discussion Agenda I. Membership Issues A. Process B. Applications On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:57 PM, marie-laure Lemineur wrote: Dear colleagues, I would like to know if we could organise a special working session to discuss practical measures to improve the membership process. I sent a long emails several weeks ago making concrete proposal as a starting point for further discussion. Rafik mentioned a few days ago that he was working on a different format for the database. Now that we are going to meet F2F in BA where most of the "membership group" will be except for Lori, it seems that it would be a good opportunity to gather and further discuss this matter. As far as I am concerned I do not care about having the meeting recorded with transcript. Please let me know if you agree if you wish to coordinate a meeting so that we agree on a suitable time and date for everyone. Best, _______________________________________________ EC-NCSG mailing list EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mllemineur Wed Nov 13 15:52:29 2013 From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:52:29 -0600 Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2548F97@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <831B304B-B6B5-44B7-9BCD-A5836AC963B8@ipjustice.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2548F97@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Me too Milton. What we can do, if everyone agrees, is start the discussion and then, if we feel that there is need for some extra time ( I am pretty sure we will), we can decide to continue the meeting (part 2) informally to wrap up later on that same day or on the Thursday morning. The good thing is that at Lori will have the possibility to join us and bring in her owns views. best, mll On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Sorry, didn?t see this before I replied. > > Good ? but I think we may need 2 hours, not just 90 minutes > > > > *From:* ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto: > ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Robin Gross > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:09 PM > *To:* marie-laure Lemineur > *Cc:* ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > *Subject:* Re: [EC-NCSG] request for meeting from NPOC > > > > Yes, the NCSG-EC meeting is scheduled to discuss these issues at its next > meeting in Buenos Aires: > > Wed. 20 November 2013 > > 8:30 - 10:00 UTC-3 > > > > I've requested remote participation so Lori can join the discussion from > the US. > > > > Rafik will be chairing the discussion; and I'll be there as a participant, > but since Rafik is taking over these responsibilities onThursday, he'll > chair the mtg on Wed. > > > > Please let me know if you have any other questions or suggestions for this > discussion in the meantime. > > > > Thanks, > > Robin > > > > > > See: > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/2013-11-20-AGENDA-NCSG-EC-Mtg > > > > *NCSG Executive Committee Meeting at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires* > > *Discussion Agenda* > > I. Membership Issues > > A. Process > > B. Applications > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:57 PM, marie-laure Lemineur wrote: > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > I would like to know if we could organise a special working session to > discuss practical measures to improve the membership process. I sent a long > emails several weeks ago making concrete proposal as a starting point for > further discussion. Rafik mentioned a few days ago that he was working on > a different format for the database. Now that we are going to meet F2F in > BA where most of the "membership group" will be except for Lori, it seems > that it would be a good opportunity to gather and further discuss this > matter. As far as I am concerned I do not care about having the meeting > recorded with transcript. Please let me know if you agree if you wish to > coordinate a meeting so that we agree on a suitable time and date for > everyone. > > > > Best, > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Nov 13 22:03:04 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:03:04 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Meetings at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires - agendas, remote participation, meeting rooms, etc. Message-ID: <59600554-8D3E-43F6-ABEA-490DCBCAA4F2@ipjustice.org> Below and here are posted the various NCSG's Meetings at ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires next week. Also below and at the links provided in this email are draft discussion agendas and remote participation details. All times are local to Buenos Aires. Safe travels to everyone heading to BA for these meetings and I hope the rest of you will join in the discussions via the remote participation facilities. Thanks! Robin Date What Meeting Related To Time Place Remote Participation Agenda Transcripts Audio Recording Notes 10 Dec. 2013 December 2013 NCSG Policy Meeting GNSO Council Meeting of 12 December 2013 tbd 21 Nov. 2013 NCSG with At-Large Community in Buenos Aires ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 12:30 - 13:30 UTC-3 Golden Hall Sheraton BA Convention Center Remote Participation Details Agenda 20 Nov. 2013 NCSG Executive Committee Meeting in Buenos Aires ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 8:30 - 10:00 UTC-3 Room: Retiro A Sheraton BA Convention Center Remote Participation Details Agenda 19 Nov. 2013 NCSG Members with CSG Members Cocktail Social ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 18:30 - 20:00 UTC-3 Basa, Basement Bar and Restaurant Basavilbaso 1328, 1006 Buenos Aires 19 Nov. 2013 NCSG with ICANN Board of Directors in Buenos Aires ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 15:30 - 16:30 UTC-3 Room: Libertado A/B Sheraton BA Convention Center Remote Participation Details Agenda 19 Nov. 2013 November 2013 NCSG Open Membership Meeting GNSO Council Meeting of 20 November 2013 ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 13:00 - 15:00 UTC-3 Room: Martin Fiero 1/2 Sheraton BA Convention Center Remote Participation Details Agenda 17 Nov. 2013 NCSG Policy Committee Meeting in Buenos Aires ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires 16:30 - 18:30 UTC-3 Room: Retiro A Sheraton BA Convention Center Remote Participation Details Agenda Remote Participation details for NCSG meetings in BA: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Remote+Participation+Details+for+NCSG+ at +ICANN+%2348+in+Buenos+Aires NCSG Calendar of Meetings in BA: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Current+NCSG+Meetings+-+Post+October+2012+ICANN+Annual+Meeting NCSG draft meetings plan for ICANN #48: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dHN4SURHZUZSSUswQ3BJXzl4ZWUzNXc&usp=sharing ICANN #48 in Buenos Aires Meetings Schedule: http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule-full -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robin Sat Nov 16 16:33:38 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:33:38 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang Message-ID: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> Dear EC Members: With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual Meeting. We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting (and so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it would be great). What do others think? Thanks, Robin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From lori.schulman Sat Nov 16 18:02:25 2013 From: lori.schulman (Lori Schulman) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:02:25 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang In-Reply-To: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> References: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <990398F0-59B3-4BB2-BA82-D76908913AB4@ascd.org> Fabulous news. I agree that Klaus is the logical choice. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2013, at 9:33 AM, "Robin Gross" wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual Meeting. > > We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting (and so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it would be great). > > What do others think? > > Thanks, > Robin > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg ?Your roadmap to success begins at the ASCD?s 69th Annual Conference, March 15?17, in Los Angeles, Calif. 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From mllemineur Sat Nov 16 19:32:48 2013 From: mllemineur (marie-laure Lemineur) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:32:48 -0200 Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang In-Reply-To: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> References: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin and all, I am very much in support of this proposal. Best, Marie-laure On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, > NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's > Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since > we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the > runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list > to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would > be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual > Meeting. > > We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting (and > so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it would > be great). > > What do others think? > > Thanks, > Robin > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Sun Nov 17 00:37:25 2013 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:37:25 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang In-Reply-To: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> References: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD254C248@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Robin I approve of Klaus as replacement Councillor >From our conversation I gather that you were asking for a vote. But reading this email I could not tell, it just says, "what do you think?" You might be a bit more formal about that in the future ;-) -----Original Message----- From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:34 AM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang Dear EC Members: With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual Meeting. We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting (and so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it would be great). What do others think? Thanks, Robin From robin Sun Nov 17 17:54:05 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:54:05 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD254C248@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4C504224-916A-4018-8CA1-F320666D1CE7@ipjustice.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD254C248@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <4BEB944B-CDBB-4DD5-AB6D-F4E901CBA39C@ipjustice.org> Hi Rafik, We are just waiting for your vote on this issue now. We need to Glen know asap so she can make it happen for this week. I presume you are on a plane and not here yet, so I just wanted to let you know when you get this message to please vote on this appointment. Thank you very much! Robin On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Robin > I approve of Klaus as replacement Councillor > From our conversation I gather that you were asking for a vote. But reading this email I could not tell, it just says, "what do you think?" > > You might be a bit more formal about that in the future ;-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:34 AM > To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang > > Dear EC Members: > > With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual Meeting. > > We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting (and so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it would be great). > > What do others think? > > Thanks, > Robin > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I presume you are on a > plane and not here yet, so I just wanted to let you know when you get this > message to please vote on this appointment. > > Thank you very much! > Robin > > On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > > Robin > > I approve of Klaus as replacement Councillor > > From our conversation I gather that you were asking for a vote. But > reading this email I could not tell, it just says, "what do you think?" > > > > You might be a bit more formal about that in the future ;-) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto: > ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross > > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:34 AM > > To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > > Subject: [EC-NCSG] GNSO Council Replacement for Wolfgang > > > > Dear EC Members: > > > > With the happy news that Wolfgang has been appointed to the ICANN Board, > NCSG needs to appoint his replacement on the GNSO Council. Under NCSG's > Charter, it is the Executive Committee who makes this appointment. Since > we just had an election, it makes sense to take the candidate who was the > runner-up in the election. Klaus Stoll was the next candidate on the list > to be elected, so let's appoint him to fill Wolfgang's shoes. As he would > be filling-in for Wolfgang, it is a term that ends with the 2014 Annual > Meeting. > > > > We do need to act quickly for the replacement at this week's meeting > (and so if we can ask Klaus to serve for this meeting and going forward it > would be great). > > > > What do others think? > > > > Thanks, > > Robin > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Tue Nov 26 10:56:20 2013 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:56:20 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: PLEASE FORWARD TO RAIFIK, can t find his email address! NCSG EXEC Transcription 20th November 2013 Retir A In-Reply-To: <9EA099B2-39BA-4954-9C16-BDD0C24FDEE7@icann.org> References: <9EA099B2-39BA-4954-9C16-BDD0C24FDEE7@icann.org> Message-ID: Hello everyone, please find the transcript of our EC call in BA last week. I think that we should have a monthly call to cover partly the applications but mostly discussing about other issues related to NCSG. I will send some day/time proposal later. Best Regards, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- D?but du message transf?r? : *Exp?diteur:* Nathalie Peregrine *Date:* 22 novembre 2013 06:55:14 UTC?3 *Destinataire:* Glen de Saint G?ry *Objet:* *PLEASE FORWARD TO RAIFIK, can t find his email address! NCSG EXEC Transcription 20th November 2013 Retir A* Dear Rafik, Please find attached the transcription of the NCSC EXEC meeting held in Wednesday 20th November in Retiro A. Kind regards Nathalie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nevertheless since we just came back from BA and next Monday it is already December, I was thinking that it would be more reasonable/practical if we join both reviews (the November and December ones) and agree to do it sometimes the second or third week of December bearing in mind that some of us will take Christmas vacations. Looking forward to your proposal regarding the schedule. Best, Marie-laure On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hello everyone, > > please find the transcript of our EC call in BA last week. I think that we > should have a monthly call to cover partly the applications but mostly > discussing about other issues related to NCSG. > I will send some day/time proposal later. > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > D?but du message transf?r? : > > *Exp?diteur:* Nathalie Peregrine > *Date:* 22 novembre 2013 06:55:14 UTC-3 > *Destinataire:* Glen de Saint G?ry > *Objet:* *PLEASE FORWARD TO RAIFIK, can t find his email address! NCSG > EXEC Transcription 20th November 2013 Retir A* > > Dear Rafik, > > Please find attached the transcription of the NCSC EXEC meeting held in > Wednesday 20th November in Retiro A. > > Kind regards > > Nathalie > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: