From robin  Mon Jun 10 00:27:25 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:27:25 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: update on NPOC elections
References: <6084C5A3F5250C46AEA8037E09A3A6F1619469D380@RGDEXCCLU01.rgd.fod.ac.cr>
Message-ID: <FAE06CBE-3F68-46E6-8FF9-74C909ED81A7@ipjustice.org>

Forwarded on the request of Eduardo Monge Gutierrez:

> 
> 
> From: Eduardo Monge Gutierrez <eduardo.monge at fod.ac.cr>
> Subject: update on NPOC elections
> Date: June 7, 2013 5:56:28 PM PDT
> To: "EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org" <EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>, "Glen at icann.org" <Glen at icann.org>, "robin at ipjustice.org" <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: "npoc at icann.org" <npoc at icann.org>, Sooknanan Cintra <cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com>, Lemineur Marie-Laure <mllemineur at gmail.com>, "mlemineur at cecadh.or.cr" <mlemineur at cecadh.or.cr>, Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>, Ileleji Poncelet <pileleji at ymca.gm>, Stoll Klaus <klaus.stoll at gkpfoundation.org>
> 
> 
> Dear  EC-NCSG members and Glen,
>  
> Following Alain Berranger's announcement of resignation and withdrawal of his candidacy for the NPOC Chair due to illness, the NPOC membership decided (on its monthly call held on Tuesday 4 June 2013) the following: 
>  
> - The NPOC elections will be held subject to the new timeline proposed and to be approved by the membership. In particular for the Chair position call for nominations and acceptance will have to be redone.
>  
> - The Executive Committee members will continue to act until the NPOC election results are announced (Expected date July 10, 2013)
>  
> - Cintra Sooknanan, the current Vice Chair, will act as Chair in conformance with the Charter until the NPOC election results are announced.
>  
> - Poncelet Ileleji will act as interim replacement to Alain on the NCSG Policy, Membership and Executive Committees on behalf of NPOC.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> NPOC Executive Committee
>  
>  
> Eduardo Monge
> NPOC Communications Committee Chair
> 
> 

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From robin  Mon Jun 17 00:30:20 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:30:20 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] draft letter to ICANN Board on request for dialogue on
	BGC decision that staff can over-rule community on policy
Message-ID: <4F51F469-44AE-4EED-8ADA-ABCE316A1FC9@IPJUSTICE.ORG>

Dear All,

In follow-up to our discussion last week, below is the draft of my letter to the ICANN Board regarding the BGC's decision on our recon request.  Please let me know if you have any suggestions for edits to the draft in the next day so I can send it out to the board asap to get a dialogue going on this.

Thanks,
Robin

==========================

Dear ICANN Board of Directors:

I am writing to you on behalf of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and other concerned members of the ICANN community regarding the harmful implications to the community-led multi-stakeholder policy development model if the ICANN Board decides to adopt the recommendation of the Board Governance Committee (BGC) in response to the NCSG's Request for Reconsideration (13-3).  The rationale provided in the BGC's recommendation, which appears to be drafted by over-reaching lawyers, attempts to set a precedent that ICANN staff can over-rule the GNSO Council on policy decisions at its own discretion.  This decision has alarmed community members beyond the NCSG and beyond those who were originally concerned with the underlying issue NCSG was initially probing of staff's adoption of the "TM+50" policy for the Trademark Clearinghouse.  

The GNSO Council expressed concern about the decision at length during its 11 June meeting; and I encourage all Board Members to listen to audio recording of the discussion or read the attached transcript to get a better understanding of some of the concerns of members of the community from several different GNSO stakeholder groups.  

The rationale provided in the BGC decision, if adopted by the entire board, would cement the change in ICANN's policy development model from the unique bottom-up community-led model to top-down staff-driven model with no checks on abuses or poor staff decisions.  If the rationale provided in this decision is adopted by the board, which goes well beyond the narrow issue presented to it, ICANN threatens to undermine its own legitimacy as a global governance institution, and it loses the ability label itself as a community-led bottom-up policy development model for Internet governance.

We understand the BGC's recommendation is on the agenda to be adopted on 25 June 2013 by the New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC).  Given the Board's record of adopting all 15 decisions of the BGC that came before it in the last ten years, there is concern in the community that this BGC recommendation will be similarly adopted by the Board with little understanding or discussion of the harm to ICANN's legitimacy and the multi-stakeholder model that this precedent threatens.  There is also concern about ICANN's "accountability" mechanism that allows the same legal team that created and adopted a policy to later decide on the legitimacy of that policy's adoption.

We therefore request that the Board meet with members of the community including NCSG who are concerned about the implications of the rationale provided by this decision to permit a more complete discussion and understanding of the community concerns and allow for appropriate adjustments before it is adopted.  We would gladly meet with the Members of the ICANN Board during the Durban Meeting or before at the Board's convenience to discuss this decision and welcome all members of the community who share NCSG's concerns to join in the discussion.   Please let us know if the Board is available to meet with NCSG and others in the community on this issue at your earliest convenience.   Thank you for your consideration.  We look forward to fruitful discussions going into the Durban ICANN meeting and stand ready to provide whatever assistance is needed.

Truly,
Robin Gross
NCSG Chair

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From robin  Mon Jun 17 05:08:18 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:08:18 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] BGC to review it's rationale on NCSG recon request on 18
	June.
Message-ID: <86E792C1-FFA4-4E99-B81B-6AB42662282D@ipjustice.org>

fyi:

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RE: [council] GNSO Council Meeting - 13 June 2013 - Actionss arising from Item 6 (Reconsideration request ... )

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Subject: RE: [council] GNSO Council Meeting - 13 June 2013 - Actionss arising from Item 6 (Reconsideration request ... )
From: Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:52:06 +0000
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Thread-topic: [council] GNSO Council Meeting - 13 June 2013 - Actionss arising from Item 6 (Reconsideration request ... )
Hello Jonathan,

For information- the Board Governance Committee is meeting on Tuesday 18 June 
at 21:00 UTC time.

A review of the rationale for reconsideration request 13.3 is on the agenda.   
Any materials you can provide before then would be useful.

I am expecting that the new gTLD program committee will then consider 
reconsideration request 13.3 at its meeting on 25 June 2013.

Regards,
Bruce Tonkin

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From robin  Tue Jun 18 03:22:10 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:22:10 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE: Impact
	on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From Rationale
	Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration Request 13-3
Message-ID: <10C2C255-759E-4930-8146-01ED0E92C2CE@ipjustice.org>

Dear Diane, Would you please forward my below email to the entire ICANN Board of Directors at your earliest opportunity?  Thank you very much.  - Robin

======

Dear ICANN Board of Directors:

I am writing to you on behalf of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and other concerned members of the ICANN community regarding the harmful implications to the community-led multi-stakeholder policy development model if the ICANN Board decides to adopt the rationale provided in the recommendation of the Board Governance Committee (BGC) in response to the NCSG's Request for Reconsideration (13-3).  The rationale provided in the BGC's recommendation, which appears to be drafted by over-reaching lawyers, attempts to set a precedent that ICANN staff can over-rule the GNSO Council on policy decisions at its own discretion.  This decision has alarmed community members beyond the NCSG and beyond those who were originally concerned with the underlying issue that NCSG was initially probing of staff's adoption of the "TM+50" policy for the Trademark Clearinghouse.  

The GNSO Council expressed concern about the BGC decision rationale at length during council's 13 June meeting; and I encourage all Board Members to listen to audio recording of the GNSO Council discussion or read the attached transcript to get a better understanding the concerns of members of several different GNSO stakeholder groups.  

The rationale provided in the BGC decision, if adopted by the entire board, would cement the change in ICANN's policy development model away from the bottom-up community-led governance model to a top-down staff-driven model with no checks on abuses or poor staff decisions.  If the rationale provided in this BGC decision is adopted by the Board, which goes well beyond the narrow issue presented to it, ICANN threatens to undermine its own legitimacy as a global governance institution, and it loses the ability to label itself as a community-led bottom-up model for Internet governance.

We understand the BGC's recommendation is on the agenda to be adopted on 25 June 2013 by the Board's New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC).  Given the Board's record of adopting all 15 BGC decisions that have come before it in the last ten years, there is concern that this BGC recommendation will be similarly adopted by the Board with little understanding or discussion of the harm to ICANN's legitimacy and the multi-stakeholder model that this precedent threatens.  The handling of this reconsideration request has also raised concerns about ICANN's "accountability" mechanism, which appears to allow the same legal team that created and adopted a policy to later evaluate the legitimacy of that policy's adoption.

We therefore respectfully request that the Board meet with concerned members of the community including NCSG to permit a more complete discussion and understanding of the concerns raised by the rationale provided in the BGC decision and to allow for appropriate adjustments to the decision before it is adopted by the Board.  We would gladly meet with the Members of the ICANN Board during the Durban Meeting or before, at the Board's convenience, to discuss this decision and welcome all members of the community to join in the discussion.   Please let us know if the Board is available to meet with NCSG and others in the community on this crucial issue at your earliest convenience.   Thank you for your consideration.  We look forward to fruitful discussions going into Durban and stand ready to provide whatever assistance is needed.

Truly,
Robin Gross
NCSG Chair

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From robin  Tue Jun 18 23:31:14 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:31:14 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
Message-ID: <5309E62F-B2E0-425E-BC6E-E5BEE2F07931@ipjustice.org>

Dear Colleagues,

As we discussed at the NCSG-EC meeting in Beijing, we need to plan NCSG's 2013 Annual Election.  This email will summarize what we discussed and pick up the conversation in its evolution.  This election is for a Term that begins at the conclusion of the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aries (22 November 2013).  All NCSG members are eligible to vote in the annual election, which is held via an email ballot administered by ICANN.   The NCSG Charter contains more detailed rules and procedures for the annual election and check-in process, but below is basic summary.  Please let feel free to comment on the below proposed plan and let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Robin

4 POSITIONS UP FOR ELECTION:
-- There are 3 NCSG GNSO Council Representative seats up for election.  These 3 seats are currently held by Wendy Seltzer (who is term-limited out from re-nomination), and Joy Liddicoat and Wolfgang Kleinwachter, both of whom are eligible to run for another council term if nominated.  These 3 GNSO Council Representatives serve a 2-year term.

-- NCSG must also elect 1 new NCSG Chair and I am term-limited out from re-nomination.  NCSG Chair serves a 1-year term.

TIMELINE:
10 August : Announce Election
 1 September : Voter List Finalized
10 September : Nominations Open
24 September : Nominations Closed
 1 October : Voting Begins
14 October : Voting Ends
17 October : Announce Results
22 November : Term Begins

CHECK-IN:
As per the NCSG Charter, we must conduct the annual "check-in" process to create the final Voter List.  As we discussed in Beijing, ICANN believes there is a technical solution we can utilize so members could check-in electronically via the web wiki (rather than me personally pestering each member for a month).  We should begin the check-in process as soon as technically possible to maximize voter participation.  I'll check with staff about getting the annual check-in process going right away.


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From robin  Wed Jun 19 21:07:50 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:07:50 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG membership applications to approve
In-Reply-To: <180C4B17-4948-4AA2-B97E-00A76F76621F@ipjustice.org>
References: <180C4B17-4948-4AA2-B97E-00A76F76621F@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <E51BEC83-E354-4F5F-ADC9-26EBC9FBB55D@ipjustice.org>

Reminder:  Please evaluate and vote on the pending NCSG membership applications.  The ones that have been pending since 26 May and no EC member has objected to will be deemed Approved on 22 June 2013 (Saturday).  So please review the applications pending in the links below and evaluate the applications before then.

Thank you,
Robin

On May 26, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Dear EC Members:
> 
> We have several new NCSG membership applications to evaluation and vote on and there are some EC member votes missing from last month.
> 
> Please have a look at the pending applications and put your vote or comments directly into the PENDING file below.  Let's please try to get through them all within the next week.
> 
> As always, please check the full applicant data file for all the info supplied by an applicant:
>   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing
> 
> And use this "pending" file to show you the most recent applicants at the top:
>    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg

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From robin  Thu Jun 20 18:22:32 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:22:32 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE:
	Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From
	Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration
	Request 13-3
References: <9EED91B0-37C6-4B2A-A83A-5D3555082261@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <52C57FEE-0D59-41A9-AC86-2933A3A4D2FB@ipjustice.org>

Dear Bruce,

Can you please tell me if the Members of ICANN Board of Directors have received NCSG's letter (below) yet, and if not, how can we get our letter to the individual Members of the Board of Directors?

Thank you,
Robin

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE: Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration Request 13-3
> Date: June 19, 2013 4:18:59 PM PDT
> To: Diane Schroeder <diane.schroeder at icann.org>
> 
> Hello Diane,
> 
> Can you confirm if the below email was forwarded to the ICANN Board of Directors please?
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
> 
>> Dear Diane, Would you please forward my below email to the entire ICANN Board of Directors at your earliest opportunity?  Thank you very much.  - Robin
>> 
>> ======
>> 
>> Dear ICANN Board of Directors:
>> 
>> I am writing to you on behalf of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and other concerned members of the ICANN community regarding the harmful implications to the community-led multi-stakeholder policy development model if the ICANN Board decides to adopt the rationale provided in the recommendation of the Board Governance Committee (BGC) in response to the NCSG's Request for Reconsideration (13-3).  The rationale provided in the BGC's recommendation, which appears to be drafted by over-reaching lawyers, attempts to set a precedent that ICANN staff can over-rule the GNSO Council on policy decisions at its own discretion.  This decision has alarmed community members beyond the NCSG and beyond those who were originally concerned with the underlying issue that NCSG was initially probing of staff's adoption of the "TM+50" policy for the Trademark Clearinghouse.  
>> 
>> The GNSO Council expressed concern about the BGC decision rationale at length during council's 13 June meeting; and I encourage all Board Members to listen to audio recording of the GNSO Council discussion or read the attached transcript to get a better understanding the concerns of members of several different GNSO stakeholder groups.  
>> 
>> The rationale provided in the BGC decision, if adopted by the entire board, would cement the change in ICANN's policy development model away from the bottom-up community-led governance model to a top-down staff-driven model with no checks on abuses or poor staff decisions.  If the rationale provided in this BGC decision is adopted by the Board, which goes well beyond the narrow issue presented to it, ICANN threatens to undermine its own legitimacy as a global governance institution, and it loses the ability to label itself as a community-led bottom-up model for Internet governance.
>> 
>> We understand the BGC's recommendation is on the agenda to be adopted on 25 June 2013 by the Board's New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC).  Given the Board's record of adopting all 15 BGC decisions that have come before it in the last ten years, there is concern that this BGC recommendation will be similarly adopted by the Board with little understanding or discussion of the harm to ICANN's legitimacy and the multi-stakeholder model that this precedent threatens.  The handling of this reconsideration request has also raised concerns about ICANN's "accountability" mechanism, which appears to allow the same legal team that created and adopted a policy to later evaluate the legitimacy of that policy's adoption.
>> 
>> We therefore respectfully request that the Board meet with concerned members of the community including NCSG to permit a more complete discussion and understanding of the concerns raised by the rationale provided in the BGC decision and to allow for appropriate adjustments to the decision before it is adopted by the Board.  We would gladly meet with the Members of the ICANN Board during the Durban Meeting or before, at the Board's convenience, to discuss this decision and welcome all members of the community to join in the discussion.   Please let us know if the Board is available to meet with NCSG and others in the community on this crucial issue at your earliest convenience.   Thank you for your consideration.  We look forward to fruitful discussions going into Durban and stand ready to provide whatever assistance is needed.
>> 
>> Truly,
>> Robin Gross
>> NCSG Chair
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> 

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From robin  Thu Jun 20 20:25:52 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:25:52 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE:
	Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From
	Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration
	Request 13-3
In-Reply-To: <CDE881A0.5D5A2%diane.schroeder@icann.org>
References: <CDE881A0.5D5A2%diane.schroeder@icann.org>
Message-ID: <DD5E97E8-CB54-4E8E-AF23-9D8385EDFAFD@ipjustice.org>

Dear Michelle,

Can you please confirm that NCSG's letter to the Board has been sent to the Members of the Board of Directors and that it will be posted to ICANN's correspondence page?

Thank you,
Robin Gross
NCSG Chair


On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Diane Schroeder wrote:

> Dear Robin ? I am no longer working with the Board ? I transitioned to a new job last February.  I have forwarded your note on to Michelle Bright for handling ? she is copied above.  Regards Diane
> 
> Diane Schroeder
> Director of Administration & ICANN Archivist
> 
> ICANN
> 12025 Waterfront Dr., Ste 300
> Los Angeles, California 90094-2536
> Main Phone - +1-310-301-5800
> Direct - +1-310-301-5827
> Fax - +1-310-823-8649
> Mobile - +1-562-644-2524
> 
> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:18 PM
> To: Diane Schroeder <diane.schroeder at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE: Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration Request 13-3
> 
> Hello Diane,
> 
> Can you confirm if the below email was forwarded to the ICANN Board of Directors please?
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
> 
>> Dear Diane, Would you please forward my below email to the entire ICANN Board of Directors at your earliest opportunity?  Thank you very much.  - Robin
>> 
>> ======
>> 
>> Dear ICANN Board of Directors:
>> 
>> I am writing to you on behalf of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and other concerned members of the ICANN community regarding the harmful implications to the community-led multi-stakeholder policy development model if the ICANN Board decides to adopt the rationale provided in the recommendation of the Board Governance Committee (BGC) in response to the NCSG's Request for Reconsideration (13-3).  The rationale provided in the BGC's recommendation, which appears to be drafted by over-reaching lawyers, attempts to set a precedent that ICANN staff can over-rule the GNSO Council on policy decisions at its own discretion.  This decision has alarmed community members beyond the NCSG and beyond those who were originally concerned with the underlying issue that NCSG was initially probing of staff's adoption of the "TM+50" policy for the Trademark Clearinghouse.  
>> 
>> The GNSO Council expressed concern about the BGC decision rationale at length during council's 13 June meeting; and I encourage all Board Members to listen to audio recording of the GNSO Council discussion or read the attached transcript to get a better understanding the concerns of members of several different GNSO stakeholder groups.  
>> 
>> The rationale provided in the BGC decision, if adopted by the entire board, would cement the change in ICANN's policy development model away from the bottom-up community-led governance model to a top-down staff-driven model with no checks on abuses or poor staff decisions.  If the rationale provided in this BGC decision is adopted by the Board, which goes well beyond the narrow issue presented to it, ICANN threatens to undermine its own legitimacy as a global governance institution, and it loses the ability to label itself as a community-led bottom-up model for Internet governance.
>> 
>> We understand the BGC's recommendation is on the agenda to be adopted on 25 June 2013 by the Board's New gTLD Program Committee (NGPC).  Given the Board's record of adopting all 15 BGC decisions that have come before it in the last ten years, there is concern that this BGC recommendation will be similarly adopted by the Board with little understanding or discussion of the harm to ICANN's legitimacy and the multi-stakeholder model that this precedent threatens.  The handling of this reconsideration request has also raised concerns about ICANN's "accountability" mechanism, which appears to allow the same legal team that created and adopted a policy to later evaluate the legitimacy of that policy's adoption.
>> 
>> We therefore respectfully request that the Board meet with concerned members of the community including NCSG to permit a more complete discussion and understanding of the concerns raised by the rationale provided in the BGC decision and to allow for appropriate adjustments to the decision before it is adopted by the Board.  We would gladly meet with the Members of the ICANN Board during the Durban Meeting or before, at the Board's convenience, to discuss this decision and welcome all members of the community to join in the discussion.   Please let us know if the Board is available to meet with NCSG and others in the community on this crucial issue at your earliest convenience.   Thank you for your consideration.  We look forward to fruitful discussions going into Durban and stand ready to provide whatever assistance is needed.
>> 
>> Truly,
>> Robin Gross
>> NCSG Chair
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> 

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From robin  Fri Jun 21 04:13:36 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:13:36 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE:
	Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From
	Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration
	Request 13-3
References: <263EE96C7DADD44CB3D5A07DBD41D0E83E5190FA@bne3-0001mitmbx.corp.mit>
Message-ID: <D2DD305E-C4F4-4A20-8853-0F20F54AF684@ipjustice.org>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>
> Subject: RE: NCSG Request for Discussion with ICANN Board RE: Impact on Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance Model From Rationale Provided in BGC Response to NCSG Reconsideration Request 13-3
> Date: June 20, 2013 5:44:29 PM PDT
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>, NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> 
> Hello Robin,
> 
>>> Can you please tell me if the Members of ICANN Board of Directors have received NCSG's letter (below) yet, and if not, how can we get our letter to the individual Members of the Board of Directors?
> 
> 
> I saw your letter at  https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/2013-06-17-NCSG-Request-to-Board-for-Community-Discussion and forwarded to the ICANN Board mailing list yesterday.
> 
> Note that Diane Schroeder is no longer in the role as Board support.   Diane is now Director, Administration & Archivist.
> 
> Michelle Bright is currently Interim Director of Board support:  michelle.bright at icann.org
> 
> The Board would certainly be interested in discussing your concerns about the multi-stakeholder model at our meeting in Durban.
> 
> I am also open to meeting with the NCSG beforehand to discuss further - particular with respect to the BGC.
> 
> In terms of the rationale for the recent reconsideration request - this is currently being reviewed, and the BGC is next meeting on 25 June 2013 to discuss.
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
> 
> 

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From rafik.dammak  Fri Jun 21 05:05:16 2013
From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:05:16 +0900
Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
In-Reply-To: <5309E62F-B2E0-425E-BC6E-E5BEE2F07931@ipjustice.org>
References: <5309E62F-B2E0-425E-BC6E-E5BEE2F07931@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkC=crLUTGGLm+Arr-unf-kY5CTFSpA16bbF+2Gwj7YTw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Robin,

thanks for the proposal, the schedule looks fine for me. I am just
wondering of staff can provide "e-check-in" soon and if members can confirm
without having to register at confluence.

Best Regards,

Rafik

2013/6/19 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> As we discussed at the NCSG-EC meeting in Beijing, we need to plan NCSG's
> 2013 Annual Election.  This email will summarize what we discussed and pick
> up the conversation in its evolution.  This election is for a Term that
> begins at the conclusion of the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aries (22 November
> 2013).  All NCSG members are eligible to vote in the annual election, which
> is held via an email ballot administered by ICANN.   The NCSG Charter
> contains more detailed rules and procedures for the annual election and
> check-in process, but below is basic summary.  Please let feel free to
> comment on the below proposed plan and let me know if you have any
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> *4 POSITIONS UP FOR ELECTION:*
> -- There are 3 NCSG GNSO Council Representative seats up for election.
>  These 3 seats are currently held by Wendy Seltzer (who is term-limited out
> from re-nomination), and Joy Liddicoat and Wolfgang Kleinwachter, both of
> whom are eligible to run for another council term if nominated.  These 3
> GNSO Council Representatives serve a 2-year term.
>
> -- NCSG must also elect 1 new NCSG Chair and I am term-limited out from
> re-nomination.  NCSG Chair serves a 1-year term.
>
> *TIMELINE:*
> 10 August : Announce Election
>  1 September : Voter List Finalized
> 10 September : Nominations Open
> 24 September : Nominations Closed
>  1 October : Voting Begins
> 14 October : Voting Ends
> 17 October : Announce Results
> 22 November : Term Begins
>
> *CHECK-IN:*
> As per the NCSG Charter, we must conduct the annual "check-in" process to
> create the final Voter List.  As we discussed in Beijing, ICANN believes
> there is a technical solution we can utilize so members could check-in
> electronically via the web wiki (rather than me personally pestering each
> member for a month).  We should begin the check-in process as soon as
> technically possible to maximize voter participation.  I'll check with
> staff about getting the annual check-in process going right away.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg
>
>
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From robin  Sat Jun 22 01:03:42 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:03:42 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd:  NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
References: <CAH5sThkC=crLUTGGLm+Arr-unf-kY5CTFSpA16bbF+2Gwj7YTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04867647-41D4-429B-8DB7-5091FBC2FEC0@ipjustice.org>

Dear Robert & Ken,

I'm writing in follow-up to our discussions about improving the efficiency of NCSG's annual check-in process by using the confluence wiki website.  How should we proceed with staff to build that capability in?  Also Rafik raises a point about the need to register for confluence to use it.  I worry it will create another step and thus an impediment to members using that process to check-in via confluence.  How do you suggest we proceed so we can get our annual check-in process underway right away?

Thank you,
Robin

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
> Date: June 20, 2013 7:05:16 PM PDT
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> thanks for the proposal, the schedule looks fine for me. I am just wondering of staff can provide "e-check-in" soon and if members can confirm without having to register at confluence.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> 2013/6/19 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> As we discussed at the NCSG-EC meeting in Beijing, we need to plan NCSG's 2013 Annual Election.  This email will summarize what we discussed and pick up the conversation in its evolution.  This election is for a Term that begins at the conclusion of the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aries (22 November 2013).  All NCSG members are eligible to vote in the annual election, which is held via an email ballot administered by ICANN.   The NCSG Charter contains more detailed rules and procedures for the annual election and check-in process, but below is basic summary.  Please let feel free to comment on the below proposed plan and let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> 
> 4 POSITIONS UP FOR ELECTION:
> -- There are 3 NCSG GNSO Council Representative seats up for election.  These 3 seats are currently held by Wendy Seltzer (who is term-limited out from re-nomination), and Joy Liddicoat and Wolfgang Kleinwachter, both of whom are eligible to run for another council term if nominated.  These 3 GNSO Council Representatives serve a 2-year term.
> 
> -- NCSG must also elect 1 new NCSG Chair and I am term-limited out from re-nomination.  NCSG Chair serves a 1-year term.
> 
> TIMELINE:
> 10 August : Announce Election
>  1 September : Voter List Finalized
> 10 September : Nominations Open
> 24 September : Nominations Closed
>  1 October : Voting Begins
> 14 October : Voting Ends
> 17 October : Announce Results
> 22 November : Term Begins
> 
> CHECK-IN:
> As per the NCSG Charter, we must conduct the annual "check-in" process to create the final Voter List.  As we discussed in Beijing, ICANN believes there is a technical solution we can utilize so members could check-in electronically via the web wiki (rather than me personally pestering each member for a month).  We should begin the check-in process as soon as technically possible to maximize voter participation.  I'll check with staff about getting the annual check-in process going right away.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg
> 
> 

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From robin  Tue Jun 25 01:52:58 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:52:58 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] 20 new NCSG members have been approved
Message-ID: <6EAC4353-2360-4542-84FD-5D0E132D0CF3@ipjustice.org>

The below 20 NCSG Membership applications have today been approved by the NCSG EC including the following 16 individuals and 4 organizations.

Thanks to those who voted on the pending membership applications.

Best,
Robin

Individuals:
Lyndel McDonald
Patrick Lenihan
Christopher Parsons
Kinfemicheal Yilma Desta
Krishna Seeburn
Thierry SANZHIE BOKALLY
Dhouha Bayarassou
Senghor Patricia
Kate Smith-Lawrence
Walid Al-Saqaf
Maria Strati
Francis Augusto Medeiros
Ari Saarenmaa
James Njoroge Gitau
Jason Gerson
Miikka Saukko

Organizations:
Women's Technology Empowerment Centre - W.TEC
Rep: Oreoluwa Somolu
www.w-teconline.org

UUM InterNetWorks Research Laboratory
Rep: Suhaidi Hassan
http://www.internetworks.my/

The Association of Finnish Local and Regional Authorities
Rep: Tommi Karttaavi
http://www.localfinland.fi/

Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet)
Rep: Grace Githaiga
www.kictanet.or.ke

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From robin  Wed Jun 26 19:15:04 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:15:04 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] request for update on BGC rationale 13-3 discussion
Message-ID: <8B11DDF8-8469-4E12-89DC-0EAE13FADF35@ipjustice.org>

Dear Bruce,

I understand the BGC met yesterday and discussed NCSG's reconsideration request and the rationale supplied in BGC's earlier recommendation.  Is there any news on this discussion and whether the board will hold a community-wide discussion on the topic of the decision's rationale in Durban?

Also, when do the meeting minutes from the BGC's 18 June meeting get posted to the web?   We are all very eager for any news on what is happening on this issue within ICANN so any info you can tell us would be most appreciated.  Thank you.

Best,
Robin Gross


From robin  Wed Jun 26 20:04:33 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:04:33 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] suggest we postpone NCSG-EC meeting in Durban
Message-ID: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>

Dear NCSG-EC members:

Sometimes we've held in-person NCSG-EC meetings during 'ICANN week' to deal with various membership or other issues that would benefit from in-person discussion rather than working via the list.  

But it turns out that I'm not able to attend the Durban ICANN meeting next month due to other work commitments (and neither is Milton).  So I think the only 3 NCSG-EC members who will be in Durban next month are Rafik, Cintra and Poncelet -- probably not enough people to hold an in-person meeting.  So I propose we not hold an NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, although if others disagree and would like to still meet as an EC, I'll happily set it up for those participants in Durban.  We should primarily use this list to conduct our work and discussions and hope we can revitalize our efforts here in the coming weeks.

So unless an EC member tells me in the next 24 hours not the cancel the NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, I will do that.   Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Robin


From robin  Wed Jun 26 21:23:21 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:23:21 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan: Wiki Support
References: <002201ce728e$204cce30$60e66a90$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <55C80D61-A575-4FEE-A785-BB856D8D352B@ipjustice.org>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Ken Bour" <ken.bour at verizon.net>
> Subject: NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan: Wiki Support
> Date: June 26, 2013 9:56:37 AM PDT
> To: "'Robin Gross'" <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: 'Glen de Saint G?ry' <glen at icann.org>, <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>,	"'Robert Hoggarth'" <robert.hoggarth at icann.org>
> 
> Dear Robin:
>  
> Concerning your most recent email (below), I was not in Beijing and am unfamiliar with whatever options were discussed in your meeting; however, I do remember mentioning to you, in a conversation last December that we might be able to find a solution that could be presented via the ICANN Wiki. At that time, you were seeking a membership database solution. Based upon our understanding of your requirements, Rob Hoggarth and I thought it would be constructive to involve ICANN?s I/T team with the goal of possibly creating a solution that would benefit any community group needing that type of record-keeping functionality.
>  
> While that larger scope activity is in process, there are actually two technically feasible options which, hopefully, would provide some near-term help for your voter registration process:
>  
> Option #1: Wiki Template
> NCSG Members would access the ICANN Community Wiki and complete a standardized form that would create a new page for each user (similar to the GNSO Statement of Interest area). Those pages could be organized into folders, e.g., Individuals, Small Orgs, and Large Orgs. From there, we could generate a report (table format) of ?active? voters similar to the one on https://community.icann.org/x/YphwAg.
>  
> Option #2: Google Docs
> NCSG already has a new membership form which utilizes Google Docs and is accessible via the Wiki. We could replicate that functionality and apply it to the voter registration task thereby auto-generating a spreadsheet that could be summarized, sorted, etc., depending upon your exact needs.
>  
> Concerning the question about whether Wiki logon accounts would be required, it is possible to set permissions such that your members would not have to login (anonymous access); however, we will want to explore with you the pros/cons of that approach.
>  
> In order to proceed with either solution, it would be helpful to know, in detail, the steps you have taken in the past to complete voter registration. For example:
> 1)     How do you communicate with members that a voter registration is to begin?
> 2)     What information (data fields) do you need to capture from each member for this purpose?
> 3)     What steps do you perform with the information that is received?
> 4)     How is voter eligibility verified during an election?
>  
> I think it would be most productive to arrange a teleconference soon so that we can discuss the above requirements and any others that pertain to this particular election challenge. Please let us know what time frame would work best for you.
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Ken Bour
> ICANN Consultant
>  
> From: Robin Gross [mailto:robin at ipjustice.org] 
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:04 PM
> To: Robert Hoggarth; Ken Bour
> Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry; ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> Subject: Fwd: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
>  
> Dear Robert & Ken,
>  
> I'm writing in follow-up to our discussions about improving the efficiency of NCSG's annual check-in process by using the confluence wiki website.  How should we proceed with staff to build that capability in?  Also Rafik raises a point about the need to register for confluence to use it.  I worry it will create another step and thus an impediment to members using that process to check-in via confluence.  How do you suggest we proceed so we can get our annual check-in process underway right away?
>  
> Thank you,
> Robin
>  
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> 
> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan
> Date: June 20, 2013 7:05:16 PM PDT
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
>  
> Hi Robin,
>  
> thanks for the proposal, the schedule looks fine for me. I am just wondering of staff can provide "e-check-in" soon and if members can confirm without having to register at confluence.
>  
> Best Regards,
> 
> Rafik 
>  
> 2013/6/19 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Dear Colleagues,
>  
> As we discussed at the NCSG-EC meeting in Beijing, we need to plan NCSG's 2013 Annual Election.  This email will summarize what we discussed and pick up the conversation in its evolution.  This election is for a Term that begins at the conclusion of the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aries (22 November 2013).  All NCSG members are eligible to vote in the annual election, which is held via an email ballot administered by ICANN.   The NCSG Charter contains more detailed rules and procedures for the annual election and check-in process, but below is basic summary.  Please let feel free to comment on the below proposed plan and let me know if you have any questions.
>  
> Thanks,
> Robin
>  
> 4 POSITIONS UP FOR ELECTION:
> -- There are 3 NCSG GNSO Council Representative seats up for election.  These 3 seats are currently held by Wendy Seltzer (who is term-limited out from re-nomination), and Joy Liddicoat and Wolfgang Kleinwachter, both of whom are eligible to run for another council term if nominated.  These 3 GNSO Council Representatives serve a 2-year term.
>  
> -- NCSG must also elect 1 new NCSG Chair and I am term-limited out from re-nomination.  NCSG Chair serves a 1-year term.
>  
> TIMELINE:
> 10 August : Announce Election
>  1 September : Voter List Finalized
> 10 September : Nominations Open
> 24 September : Nominations Closed
>  1 October : Voting Begins
> 14 October : Voting Ends
> 17 October : Announce Results
> 22 November : Term Begins
>  
> CHECK-IN:
> As per the NCSG Charter, we must conduct the annual "check-in" process to create the final Voter List.  As we discussed in Beijing, ICANN believes there is a technical solution we can utilize so members could check-in electronically via the web wiki (rather than me personally pestering each member for a month).  We should begin the check-in process as soon as technically possible to maximize voter participation.  I'll check with staff about getting the annual check-in process going right away.
>  
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg
> 
>  
>  

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From pileleji  Wed Jun 26 21:44:31 2013
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:44:31 +0000
Subject: [EC-NCSG] suggest we postpone NCSG-EC meeting in Durban
In-Reply-To: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
References: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CAEux40uaEph0UV-P725WcvfGpFxh8DQF+S=ctK7eJYNyo9+Q+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Robin,

Good day, I totally concur with your proposal, and you absolutely right,
kit should be canceled, so go ahead and cancel it.

Thanks

Poncelet


On 26 June 2013 17:04, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Dear NCSG-EC members:
>
> Sometimes we've held in-person NCSG-EC meetings during 'ICANN week' to
> deal with various membership or other issues that would benefit from
> in-person discussion rather than working via the list.
>
> But it turns out that I'm not able to attend the Durban ICANN meeting next
> month due to other work commitments (and neither is Milton).  So I think
> the only 3 NCSG-EC members who will be in Durban next month are Rafik,
> Cintra and Poncelet -- probably not enough people to hold an in-person
> meeting.  So I propose we not hold an NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, although
> if others disagree and would like to still meet as an EC, I'll happily set
> it up for those participants in Durban.  We should primarily use this list
> to conduct our work and discussions and hope we can revitalize our efforts
> here in the coming weeks.
>
> So unless an EC member tells me in the next 24 hours not the cancel the
> NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, I will do that.   Please let me know what you
> think.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg
>



-- 
Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS
Coordinator
The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
MDI Road Kanifing South
P. O. Box 421 Banjul
The Gambia, West Africa
Tel: (220) 4370240
Fax:(220) 4390793
Cell:(220) 9912508
Skype: pons_utd
*www.ymca.gm
www.waigf.org
www.aficta.org
www.itag.gm
www.npoc.org
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From pileleji  Wed Jun 26 21:45:09 2013
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:45:09 +0000
Subject: [EC-NCSG] suggest we postpone NCSG-EC meeting in Durban
In-Reply-To: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
References: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CAEux40um3D6dv0eLjysH3wYJHTqSSi-sew9+krNXXVJCZXyTGA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Robin,

Good day, I totally concur with your proposal, and you absolutely right,
kit should be canceled, so go ahead and cancel it.

Thanks



On 26 June 2013 17:04, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Dear NCSG-EC members:
>
> Sometimes we've held in-person NCSG-EC meetings during 'ICANN week' to
> deal with various membership or other issues that would benefit from
> in-person discussion rather than working via the list.
>
> But it turns out that I'm not able to attend the Durban ICANN meeting next
> month due to other work commitments (and neither is Milton).  So I think
> the only 3 NCSG-EC members who will be in Durban next month are Rafik,
> Cintra and Poncelet -- probably not enough people to hold an in-person
> meeting.  So I propose we not hold an NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, although
> if others disagree and would like to still meet as an EC, I'll happily set
> it up for those participants in Durban.  We should primarily use this list
> to conduct our work and discussions and hope we can revitalize our efforts
> here in the coming weeks.
>
> So unless an EC member tells me in the next 24 hours not the cancel the
> NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, I will do that.   Please let me know what you
> think.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg
>



-- 
Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS
Coordinator
The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
MDI Road Kanifing South
P. O. Box 421 Banjul
The Gambia, West Africa
Tel: (220) 4370240
Fax:(220) 4390793
Cell:(220) 9912508
Skype: pons_utd
*www.ymca.gm
www.waigf.org
www.aficta.org
www.itag.gm
www.npoc.org
http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753
*www.diplointernetgovernance.org

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From robin  Thu Jun 27 07:36:51 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:36:51 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: request for update on BGC rationale 13-3 discussion
References: <263EE96C7DADD44CB3D5A07DBD41D0E83E52CEE4@bne3-0001mitmbx.corp.mit>
Message-ID: <25E59D10-A7E7-4B9F-8EF8-B8A6F31970B4@ipjustice.org>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>
> Subject: RE: request for update on BGC rationale 13-3 discussion
> Date: June 26, 2013 9:03:01 PM PDT
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>, "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>, Edward Morris <edward.morris at alumni.usc.edu>, "Jeff Neuman" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us>
> 
> Hello Robin,
> 
> 
>>> I understand the BGC met yesterday and discussed NCSG's reconsideration request and the rationale supplied in BGC's earlier recommendation.  Is there any news on this discussion and whether the board will hold a community-wide discussion on the topic of the decision's rationale in Durban?
> 
> The BGC approved a revised version of the rationale, taking into account recent community feedback.   I expect that this will be published at:
> http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/governance/reconsideration   shortly.
> 
> The BGC also decided to send to the Board's new gTLD Program Committee for approval.  I expect that this will be at their next meeting - which I expect will be early July.  Once the meeting is confirmed, the details should be available here:
> 
> http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/meetings
> 
> The Board is certainly open to discuss the issues associated with and lessons learned with this reconsideration request at its meetings in Durban.  The Board will be meeting with the non-commercial stakeholder group as usual, and I assume we will also meet with the GNSO, and of course have a public forum later in the week.
> 
>> .  Also, when do the meeting minutes from the BGC's 18 June meeting get posted to the web?   We are all very eager for any news on what is happening on this issue within ICANN so any info you can tell us would be most appreciated.  Thank you.
> 
> 
> Normally once the staff have produced the minutes - they are sent to the BGC mailing list for approval via email.  They require approval from all members via email.  If we don't get full approval via email, then we approve as the first item of the agenda at the next meeting.   I expect that the latest they will be published will be after the BGC meeting in Durban - which is scheduled during the 1st weekend of the meeting.   I will post them on as soon as I am informed they have been published.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
> 
> 

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From cintra.sooknanan  Thu Jun 27 16:15:57 2013
From: cintra.sooknanan (Cintra Sooknanan)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:15:57 -0400
Subject: [EC-NCSG] suggest we postpone NCSG-EC meeting in Durban
In-Reply-To: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
References: <B95FC066-9EB6-4E54-BF68-34CB7249CC47@ipjustice.org>
Message-ID: <CANFk9VViqiJeUvyC8fUAW=aDX22NY1AR1ychdFXPBy3c2cB7Fg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Robin,

I agree there is not much sense in an EC meeting when two members are
missing. But what will be the status of the NCSG meeting with the Board,
with ALAC etc?

Regards

Cintra Sooknanan


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Dear NCSG-EC members:
>
> Sometimes we've held in-person NCSG-EC meetings during 'ICANN week' to
> deal with various membership or other issues that would benefit from
> in-person discussion rather than working via the list.
>
> But it turns out that I'm not able to attend the Durban ICANN meeting next
> month due to other work commitments (and neither is Milton).  So I think
> the only 3 NCSG-EC members who will be in Durban next month are Rafik,
> Cintra and Poncelet -- probably not enough people to hold an in-person
> meeting.  So I propose we not hold an NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, although
> if others disagree and would like to still meet as an EC, I'll happily set
> it up for those participants in Durban.  We should primarily use this list
> to conduct our work and discussions and hope we can revitalize our efforts
> here in the coming weeks.
>
> So unless an EC member tells me in the next 24 hours not the cancel the
> NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, I will do that.   Please let me know what you
> think.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
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From robin  Thu Jun 27 21:57:23 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:57:23 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] suggest we postpone NCSG-EC meeting in Durban
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Thanks, Cintra.  I'll let Glen know we will cancel the NCSG-EC mtg in Durban.

As for the other meetings, Avri will fill-in for me and chair the NCSG meeting on Tuesday and also co-chair the mtg with the board.  

Wolfgang has agreed to fill-in and co-chair the NCSG meeting with At-Large.

As NCSG-PC Chair, Wendy will Chair the NCSG-PC meeting in Durban.

Thanks,
Robin

On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:

> Hi Robin, 
> 
> I agree there is not much sense in an EC meeting when two members are missing. But what will be the status of the NCSG meeting with the Board, with ALAC etc?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cintra Sooknanan
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
> Dear NCSG-EC members:
> 
> Sometimes we've held in-person NCSG-EC meetings during 'ICANN week' to deal with various membership or other issues that would benefit from in-person discussion rather than working via the list.
> 
> But it turns out that I'm not able to attend the Durban ICANN meeting next month due to other work commitments (and neither is Milton).  So I think the only 3 NCSG-EC members who will be in Durban next month are Rafik, Cintra and Poncelet -- probably not enough people to hold an in-person meeting.  So I propose we not hold an NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, although if others disagree and would like to still meet as an EC, I'll happily set it up for those participants in Durban.  We should primarily use this list to conduct our work and discussions and hope we can revitalize our efforts here in the coming weeks.
> 
> So unless an EC member tells me in the next 24 hours not the cancel the NCSG-EC meeting in Durban, I will do that.   Please let me know what you think.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> _______________________________________________
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From robin  Fri Jun 28 02:36:21 2013
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:36:21 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Update on Reconsideration Request 13-3
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ICANN,

I get a broken link when I click on the file below for the revised recommendation.  Can you please confirm where this doc is posted?

Thanks,
Robin

On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:32 PM, reconsideration wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> This is to inform you the the BGC has taken a second review the Non-Commerical Stakeholder Group's Reconsideration Request (Request 13-3), which was filed on 19 April 2013.  The 16 May 2013 BGC Recommendation relating to Request 13-3 was revoked, and a Revised BGC Recommendation relating to Request 13-3 was reached.  The Revised BGC Recommendation can be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/governance/reconsideration/recommendation-ncsg-25jun13-en.pdf
> 
> Note that the Revised BGC Recommendation will now be submitted to the New gTLD Program Committee for review during a Committee meeting as soon as practicable and feasible.
> 
> Once the New gTLD Program Committee makes a decision on the BGC Recommendation it will be reflected on the same page as the Request and the BGC Recommendation at: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/governance/reconsideration and you will be notified shortly after the New gTLD Program Committee's decision is posted.
> 
> Thank you.  
> 
> ICANN
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From rafik.dammak  Sun Jun 30 11:26:09 2013
From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:26:09 +0900
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan: Wiki Support
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Hi Robin,

I welcome the proposal from Ken to setup a confcall, maybe the week before
ICANN meeting?

Best,

Rafik


2013/6/27 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>

> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Ken Bour" <ken.bour at verizon.net>
> *Subject: **NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan: Wiki Support*
> *Date: *June 26, 2013 9:56:37 AM PDT
> *To: *"'Robin Gross'" <robin at ipjustice.org>
> *Cc: *'Glen de Saint G?ry' <glen at icann.org>, <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>,
> "'Robert Hoggarth'" <robert.hoggarth at icann.org>
>
> Dear Robin:****
> ** **
> Concerning your most recent email (below), I was not in Beijing and am
> unfamiliar with whatever options were discussed in your meeting; however, I
> do remember mentioning to you, in a conversation last December that we
> might be able to find a solution that could be presented via the ICANN
> Wiki. At that time, you were seeking a membership database solution. Based
> upon our understanding of your requirements, Rob Hoggarth and I thought it
> would be constructive to involve ICANN?s I/T team with the goal of possibly
> creating a solution that would benefit any community group needing that
> type of record-keeping functionality.****
> ** **
> While that larger scope activity is in process, there are actually two
> technically feasible options which, hopefully, would provide some near-term
> help for your voter registration process:****
> ** **
> *Option #1:* *Wiki Template*****
> NCSG Members would access the ICANN Community Wiki and complete a
> standardized form that would create a new page for each user (similar to
> the GNSO Statement of Interest <https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg> area).
> Those pages could be organized into folders, e.g., Individuals, Small Orgs,
> and Large Orgs. From there, we could generate a report (table format) of
> ?active? voters similar to the one on https://community.icann.org/x/YphwAg
> .****
> ** **
> *Option #2:* *Google Docs*****
> NCSG already has a new membership form which utilizes Google Docs and is
> accessible via the Wiki. We could replicate that functionality and apply it
> to the voter registration task thereby auto-generating a spreadsheet that
> could be summarized, sorted, etc., depending upon your exact needs.****
> ** **
> Concerning the question about whether Wiki logon accounts would be
> required, it is possible to set permissions such that your members would *
> not* have to login (anonymous access); however, we will want to explore
> with you the pros/cons of that approach.****
> ** **
> In order to proceed with either solution, it would be helpful to know, in
> detail, the steps you have taken in the past to complete voter
> registration. For example:****
> 1)     How do you communicate with members that a voter registration is
> to begin?****
> 2)     What information (data fields) do you need to capture from each
> member for this purpose?****
> 3)     What steps do you perform with the information that is received?***
> *
> 4)     How is voter eligibility verified during an election?****
> ** **
> I think it would be most productive to arrange a teleconference soon so
> that we can discuss the above requirements and any others that pertain to
> this particular election challenge. Please let us know what time frame
> would work best for you.****
> ** **
> Thank you,****
> ** **
> Ken Bour****
> ICANN Consultant****
> ** **
> *From:* Robin Gross [mailto:robin at ipjustice.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 6:04 PM
> *To:* Robert Hoggarth; Ken Bour
> *Cc:* Glen de Saint G?ry; ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> *Subject:* Fwd: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan****
> ** **
> Dear Robert & Ken,****
> ** **
> I'm writing in follow-up to our discussions about improving the efficiency
> of NCSG's annual check-in process by using the confluence wiki website.
>  How should we proceed with staff to build that capability in?  Also Rafik
> raises a point about the need to register for confluence to use it.  I
> worry it will create another step and thus an impediment to members using
> that process to check-in via confluence.  How do you suggest we proceed so
> we can get our annual check-in process underway right away?****
> ** **
> Thank you,****
> Robin****
> ** **
> Begin forwarded message:****
>
>
> ****
> *From: *Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>****
> *Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] NCSG 2013 Annual Election Plan*****
> *Date: *June 20, 2013 7:05:16 PM PDT****
> *To: *Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>****
> *Cc: *"ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>****
> ** **
> Hi Robin,****
> ** **
> thanks for the proposal, the schedule looks fine for me. I am just
> wondering of staff can provide "e-check-in" soon and if members can confirm
> without having to register at confluence.****
>  ** **
> Best Regards,****
>
> ****
> Rafik ****
> ** **
> 2013/6/19 Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>****
> Dear Colleagues,****
> ** **
> As we discussed at the NCSG-EC meeting in Beijing, we need to plan NCSG's
> 2013 Annual Election.  This email will summarize what we discussed and pick
> up the conversation in its evolution.  This election is for a Term that
> begins at the conclusion of the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aries (22 November
> 2013).  All NCSG members are eligible to vote in the annual election, which
> is held via an email ballot administered by ICANN.   The NCSG Charter
> contains more detailed rules and procedures for the annual election and
> check-in process, but below is basic summary.  Please let feel free to
> comment on the below proposed plan and let me know if you have any
> questions.****
> ** **
> Thanks,****
> Robin****
> ** **
> *4 POSITIONS UP FOR ELECTION:*****
> -- There are 3 NCSG GNSO Council Representative seats up for election.
>  These 3 seats are currently held by Wendy Seltzer (who is term-limited out
> from re-nomination), and Joy Liddicoat and Wolfgang Kleinwachter, both of
> whom are eligible to run for another council term if nominated.  These 3
> GNSO Council Representatives serve a 2-year term.****
> ** **
> -- NCSG must also elect 1 new NCSG Chair and I am term-limited out from
> re-nomination.  NCSG Chair serves a 1-year term.****
> ** **
> *TIMELINE:*****
> 10 August : Announce Election****
>  1 September : Voter List Finalized****
> 10 September : Nominations Open****
> 24 September : Nominations Closed****
>  1 October : Voting Begins****
> 14 October : Voting Ends****
> 17 October : Announce Results****
> 22 November : Term Begins****
> ** **
>  *CHECK-IN:*****
> As per the NCSG Charter, we must conduct the annual "check-in" process to
> create the final Voter List.  As we discussed in Beijing, ICANN believes
> there is a technical solution we can utilize so members could check-in
> electronically via the web wiki (rather than me personally pestering each
> member for a month).  We should begin the check-in process as soon as
> technically possible to maximize voter participation.  I'll check with
> staff about getting the annual check-in process going right away.****
> ** **
> ** **
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EC-NCSG mailing list
> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg****
> ** **
> ** **
>
>
>
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