From robin Tue Feb 5 23:00:05 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 13:00:05 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] current batch of pending NCSG membership applications - please vote this week Message-ID: <38C94032-C509-4406-8331-460984C59AE5@ipjustice.org> Dear NCSG-EC Members: We've got 12 new applications for membership in NCSG to evaluate at this point: Virpi Kauko Serigne CTIC Foundation Pilots N Paws Heather Leason Mike Jones Internet Society Belgium Jordi Iparraguirre Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao ISOC Armenia Engineering Academy of Armenia Martin Pablo Silva Valent Here's the brief summary of the pending applications: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing Also, remember the full application data is always posted here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing There were a few duplications in the 2nd link, so those have been weeded out the summary (1st link above). Also a previous applicant (REPAOC) has provided supplemental info on funding in the form of a new application, so that earlier application should be re-considered as well in this batch of evaluations. Alain Berranger voted to approve 2 of the applications (ISOC Belgium and ISOC Armenia) already. May I please request that each NCSG-EC member evaluate these applications and vote on them before the end of the week? Please use this list for discussion of the applications and approval/voting of them. Thanks, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Feb 6 06:40:06 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:40:06 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] alternate to the standing committee on Improvements of the GNSO - lose end Message-ID: <6DD2BE6E-A3D8-4129-9972-BA0B2743BD59@ipjustice.org> We need to approve NCSG member Stefania Milan as an Alternate to the Standing Committee on Improvements (SCI) to assist Avri, who is our primary representative in the committee. Stefania has agreed to serve as the alternate in this group, and she and Avri are already coordinating. So please let me know if there any objection to adding Stefania asap. Thanks! Best, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Fri Feb 8 22:33:13 2013 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:33:13 -0500 Subject: [EC-NCSG] current batch of pending NCSG membership applications - please vote this week In-Reply-To: <38C94032-C509-4406-8331-460984C59AE5@ipjustice.org> References: <38C94032-C509-4406-8331-460984C59AE5@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin, Thanks and ...just making the deadline! It was nice working with you in LA. Have a nice week-end! Cheers, Alain Dear EC-NCSG Colleagues, here are the results of my due diligence on this latest batch: *Pending applications under review:* 14 - *REPAOC*: RE-APPROVE in light of the reputation of this network and its partners ( AFVP France, AQOCI Quebec, CEDEAO West African Community, FONDATION FORD US, MINISTERE DES AFFAIRES ETRANGERES France and UN(DEF), the fact that its ED, Tete Benissan is on the IAB of PIR.org, and finally that Marie-Laure Lemineur knows him personally and has recruited him). The website indicates no commercial reference, essentially it is a development and HR platform for 10 national NGO Associations. This is a big catch for NCSG in terms of dissemination numbers and outreach potential in francophone West Africa. NPOC membership requested and pre-approved conditional to NCSG membership approval. 15 - *Denise Brunsdon* - APPROVE given that Milton knows her...but website a bit confusing... maybe Milton can tell us a bit more since he knows her? Individual IU approved for NCUC membership conditional to NCSG membership approval. 16 - *TAC *- APPROVE as individual IU member for NCUC membership... when website is completed as promised by Yuliya last year and shows that TAC is more than a one woman origanization, NPOC will reconsider institutional membership... *New pending applications:* 2 - *Virpi Kauko* - url non-fonctional ????? no other info available... NOT APPROVED 3 - *Serigne* - no info available... NOT APPROVED 4 - *CTIC Foundation* - Recruited by Klaus Stoll. This is a leading ICT4D Not-for-profit in Spain... APPROVE... NPOC membership requested and pre-approved conditional to NCSG membership approval. 5 - *Pilots N Paws*... APPROVE if this NFP appoints its own representative (in light of Robin's argument that Bikof cannot represent his client) 6 - *Heather Leason*... APPROVE for NCUC individual membership 7 - *Mike Jones*...no info available... NOT APPROVED 8 - *Internet Society Belgium *- I have already APPROVED by separate email- the CEO, Rudi Vansnick is already an NCUC individual member and wishes to become an active volunteer with NPOC.... NPOC membership has been requested and pre-approved conditional to NCSG membership approval. 9 - *Jordi Iparraguirre*... website is http://www.iparraguirre.cat/... not http://www.iparraquirre.cat/... family website... language is catalan... APPROVED... 10 -*Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao*... APPROVE for NCUC individual membership 11 -* ISOC Armenia* ...I have already APPROVED by separate email.... NPOC membership has been requested and pre-approved conditional to NCSG membership approval. 12 - *Engineering Academy of Armenia.*..APPROVE...NPOC membership has been requested and pre-approved conditional to NCSG membership approval. 13 - *Martin Pablo Silva Valent* - no info available... NOT APPROVED Cheers, Alain On Tuesday, February 5, 2013, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear NCSG-EC Members: > > We've got 12 new applications for membership in NCSG to evaluate at this > point: > *Virpi Kauko* > *Serigne* > *CTIC Foundation* > *Pilots N Paws* > *Heather Leason* > *Mike Jones* > *Internet Society Belgium* > *Jordi Iparraguirre* > *Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao* > *ISOC Armenia* > *Engineering Academy of Armenia* > *Martin Pablo Silva Valent* > > Here's the brief summary of the pending applications: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing > > Also, remember the full application data is always posted here: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing > > There were a few duplications in the 2nd link, so those have been weeded > out the summary (1st link above). Also a previous applicant (REPAOC) has > provided supplemental info on funding in the form of a new application, so > that earlier application should be re-considered as well in this batch of > evaluations. > > Alain Berranger voted to approve 2 of the applications (ISOC Belgium and > ISOC Armenia) already. > > May I please request that each NCSG-EC member evaluate these applications > and vote on them before the end of the week? Please use this list for > discussion of the applications and approval/voting of them. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Fri Feb 8 23:00:32 2013 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:00:32 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] current batch of pending NCSG membership applications - please vote this week In-Reply-To: <38C94032-C509-4406-8331-460984C59AE5@ipjustice.org> References: <38C94032-C509-4406-8331-460984C59AE5@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD232E74B@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Virpi Kauko (individual member) APPROVE Serigne: No information CTIC Foundation: Approve More later. From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:00 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: [EC-NCSG] current batch of pending NCSG membership applications - please vote this week Dear NCSG-EC Members: We've got 12 new applications for membership in NCSG to evaluate at this point: Virpi Kauko Serigne CTIC Foundation Pilots N Paws Heather Leason Mike Jones Internet Society Belgium Jordi Iparraguirre Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao ISOC Armenia Engineering Academy of Armenia Martin Pablo Silva Valent Here's the brief summary of the pending applications: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing Also, remember the full application data is always posted here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing There were a few duplications in the 2nd link, so those have been weeded out the summary (1st link above). Also a previous applicant (REPAOC) has provided supplemental info on funding in the form of a new application, so that earlier application should be re-considered as well in this batch of evaluations. Alain Berranger voted to approve 2 of the applications (ISOC Belgium and ISOC Armenia) already. May I please request that each NCSG-EC member evaluate these applications and vote on them before the end of the week? Please use this list for discussion of the applications and approval/voting of them. Thanks, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Sun Feb 10 00:35:06 2013 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:35:06 -0500 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: ncsg applicants - Approving Virpi Kauko Message-ID: Dear Robin, Milton and Rafik, You will find below an exchange with Tapani which convinced me to APPROVE the individual membership for Virpi Kauko in light of new info not on the application Cheers, Alain ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alain Berranger Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM Subject: Re: ncsg applicants To: Tapani Tarvainen Hi Tapani, Sorry we had no time to chat in LA... Thanks a lot for briefing me on this and also for sharing your opinion on the partial inadequacy of the NCSG membership application form for individuals - it also has weaknesses on the institutional side. We are awaiting the outcome of a request to ICANN for the staff to redesign and handle the administrative function of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership data base under the direction of the EC-NCSG/NCUC/NPOC. I still find it difficult to approve an individual membership without knowing a little bit about the person... but I may be out to lunch on that... however in light of the info on the two public sites you shared with me, I would now wish to APPROVE. See other comments below embedded in your text. May I forward this back to the EC-NCSG to indicate my change of decision? If you prefer keeping this private, that is also fine with me. Cheers, Alain On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Alain, > > I noticed your message in ec-ncsg list > (http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/ec-ncsg/2013-February/000299.html) > and in particular this: > > "2 - *Virpi Kauko* - url non-fonctional ????? no other info available... > NOT > APPROVED" > > Is there a requirement somewhere that the domain is used for www? > I do not think so. > > Note that the applicant is an individual, not an organization, and > as it happens, kauko.org is used for email only, it has no A record. > > There are subdomains under it used for websites, but mostly not public > ones - it is a family domain, intended primarily for family members' > private communication. A quintessential example of non-commercial use, > in my opinion. > > I agree > Two public websites under it are http://virpi.kauko.org > and especially http://v.kauko.org - neither in English, > but presumably that can't really be a requirement either. > > These websites were not mentioned in the application and my quick google search did not lead me there...hence I had zero info to decide to approve membership or not... Once I glanced at the two websites you sent me, it became easy for me to approve membership... > It would seem the application form is not very well designed > for individuals, and there's no good process for asking applicants > for additional info. > If and when GNSO Secretariat agrees to handle the admin tasks for us, this problem should be solved > (Yes, as whois would reveal I'm behind this, starting to do outreach > for ncuc.) > > As NPOC is very focused about increasing ICANN outreach to the NFP/NGO world, I'm sure we will work closely together. Already Wolfgang has made a concrete proposal for doing that, after he read the NPOC 2013 Outreach Plan (I say ambitious because it is 90% unfunded as we speak. > By the way, it was nice to meet you in LA, even though we had > really no time to chat. > Maybe in Beijing we will have a bit more time? > > Best regards, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de votre coop?ration. CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en partie . 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URL: From rafik.dammak Sun Feb 10 02:01:00 2013 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:01:00 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] alternate to the standing committee on Improvements of the GNSO - lose end In-Reply-To: <6DD2BE6E-A3D8-4129-9972-BA0B2743BD59@ipjustice.org> References: <6DD2BE6E-A3D8-4129-9972-BA0B2743BD59@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Hi Robin, no objection from me. Best, Rafik 2013/2/6 Robin Gross > We need to approve NCSG member Stefania Milan as an Alternate to the > Standing Committee on Improvements (SCI) to assist Avri, who is our primary > representative in the committee. Stefania has agreed to serve as the > alternate in this group, and she and Avri are already coordinating. So > please let me know if there any objection to adding Stefania asap. Thanks! > > Best, > Robin > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Sun Feb 10 23:18:35 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:18:35 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending batch of NCSG membership applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1329A853-9833-4C00-BF47-4C66AED19643@ipjustice.org> Thanks to those NCSG-EC members who have evaluated these pending membership applications and voted on them. I've tried to take the comments and votes from the various emails and put them into the PENDING spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing The above link is only a summary but shows where we need input from and what are the specific issues with each application to be resolved. If I've missed anything, apologies, and please add it in to the document. A couple times we had comments like "no info available". But the info is not in the summary file above. Rather, the info is all in the application data input by the applicant and that huge file is always here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing So be sure to look at the two lists in parallel since the first is only a summary of what is immediately before us, and the second is the actual and complete membership application data, so includes much more info than the first. Also remember that when an individual applies under criteria 2, they are not required to have a noncommercial domain or be affiliated with a noncommercial organization to be eligible to join NCSG. So I'd really appreciate it if NCSG-EC members could get their final comments in on these applications in the next day. Otherwise, the ones that no one has objected to will be deemed to be accepted. We can't keep them hanging forever. ;-) Thanks again for your time going through these applications! It really is a good thing that we are growing so fast! Best, Robin On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear Robin, Milton and Rafik, > > You will find below an exchange with Tapani which convinced me to > APPROVE the individual membership for Virpi Kauko in light of new > info not on the application > > Cheers, Alain > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alain Berranger > Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: ncsg applicants > To: Tapani Tarvainen > > > Hi Tapani, > > Sorry we had no time to chat in LA... > > Thanks a lot for briefing me on this and also for sharing your > opinion on the partial inadequacy of the NCSG membership > application form for individuals - it also has weaknesses on the > institutional side. We are awaiting the outcome of a request to > ICANN for the staff to redesign and handle the administrative > function of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership data base under the > direction of the EC-NCSG/NCUC/NPOC. I still find it difficult to > approve an individual membership without knowing a little bit about > the person... but I may be out to lunch on that... however in light > of the info on the two public sites you shared with me, I would now > wish to APPROVE. > > See other comments below embedded in your text. > > May I forward this back to the EC-NCSG to indicate my change of > decision? If you prefer keeping this private, that is also fine > with me. > > Cheers, Alain > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > Hi Alain, > > I noticed your message in ec-ncsg list > (http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/ec-ncsg/2013-February/ > 000299.html) > and in particular this: > > "2 - *Virpi Kauko* - url non-fonctional ????? no other info > available... NOT > APPROVED" > > Is there a requirement somewhere that the domain is used for www? > > I do not think so. > > Note that the applicant is an individual, not an organization, and > as it happens, kauko.org is used for email only, it has no A record. > > There are subdomains under it used for websites, but mostly not public > ones - it is a family domain, intended primarily for family members' > private communication. A quintessential example of non-commercial use, > in my opinion. > > I agree > > Two public websites under it are http://virpi.kauko.org > and especially http://v.kauko.org - neither in English, > but presumably that can't really be a requirement either. > > These websites were not mentioned in the application and my quick > google search did not lead me there...hence I had zero info to > decide to approve membership or not... Once I glanced at the two > websites you sent me, it became easy for me to approve membership... > > It would seem the application form is not very well designed > for individuals, and there's no good process for asking applicants > for additional info. > > If and when GNSO Secretariat agrees to handle the admin tasks for > us, this problem should be solved > > (Yes, as whois would reveal I'm behind this, starting to do outreach > for ncuc.) > > As NPOC is very focused about increasing ICANN outreach to the NFP/ > NGO world, I'm sure we will work closely together. Already Wolfgang > has made a concrete proposal for doing that, after he read the NPOC > 2013 Outreach Plan (I say ambitious because it is 90% unfunded as > we speak. > > By the way, it was nice to meet you in LA, even though we had > really no time to chat. > > Maybe in Beijing we will have a bit more time? > > Best regards, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. 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In light of new info and your clarifications, I therefore APPROVE Serigne, Mike Jones and Martin Valent. In light of your analysis re Engineering Academy of Armenia, I rescind my approval. That completes my evaluation on this round. Finally, I urge my colleagues to approve REPAOC as it is clear from the website that funding is from governments, regional government bodies and aid agencies (In my previous email I provided a list extracted from the website), a pretty traditional funding mechanism for regional network platforms in developing countries in general and in West Africa in particular (these countries are amongst the poorer in the world as all of you well know and commercial funding of development is not even on the radar in these countries!). Cheers, Alain On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Thanks to those NCSG-EC members who have evaluated these pending > membership applications and voted on them. I've tried to take the comments > and votes from the various emails and put them into the PENDING spreadsheet: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing > > The above link is only a summary but shows where we need input from and > what are the specific issues with each application to be resolved. If I've > missed anything, apologies, and please add it in to the document. > > A couple times we had comments like "no info available". But the info is > not in the summary file above. Rather, the info is all in the application > data input by the applicant and that huge file is always here: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing > > So be sure to look at the two lists in parallel since the first is only a > summary of what is immediately before us, and the second is the actual and > complete membership application data, so includes much more info than the > first. > > Also remember that when an individual applies under criteria 2, they are > not required to have a noncommercial domain or be affiliated with a > noncommercial organization to be eligible to join NCSG. > > So I'd really appreciate it if NCSG-EC members could get their final > comments in on these applications in the next day. Otherwise, the ones > that no one has objected to will be deemed to be accepted. We can't keep > them hanging forever. ;-) > > Thanks again for your time going through these applications! It really > is a good thing that we are growing so fast! > > Best, > Robin > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear Robin, Milton and Rafik, > > You will find below an exchange with Tapani which convinced me to APPROVE > the individual membership for Virpi Kauko in light of new info not on the > application > > Cheers, Alain > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alain Berranger > Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: ncsg applicants > To: Tapani Tarvainen > > > Hi Tapani, > > Sorry we had no time to chat in LA... > > Thanks a lot for briefing me on this and also for sharing your opinion on > the partial inadequacy of the NCSG membership application form for > individuals - it also has weaknesses on the institutional side. We are > awaiting the outcome of a request to ICANN for the staff to redesign and > handle the administrative function of NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership data base > under the direction of the EC-NCSG/NCUC/NPOC. I still find it difficult to > approve an individual membership without knowing a little bit about the > person... but I may be out to lunch on that... however in light of the info > on the two public sites you shared with me, I would now wish to APPROVE. > > See other comments below embedded in your text. > > May I forward this back to the EC-NCSG to indicate my change of decision? > If you prefer keeping this private, that is also fine with me. > > Cheers, Alain > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Tapani Tarvainen < > ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote: > >> Hi Alain, >> >> I noticed your message in ec-ncsg list >> (http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/ec-ncsg/2013-February/000299.html >> ) >> and in particular this: >> >> "2 - *Virpi Kauko* - url non-fonctional ????? no other info available... >> NOT >> APPROVED" >> >> Is there a requirement somewhere that the domain is used for www? > > > >> I do not think so. >> > > >> Note that the applicant is an individual, not an organization, and >> as it happens, kauko.org is used for email only, it has no A record. >> >> There are subdomains under it used for websites, but mostly not public >> ones - it is a family domain, intended primarily for family members' >> private communication. A quintessential example of non-commercial use, >> in my opinion. >> >> I agree > > >> Two public websites under it are http://virpi.kauko.org >> and especially http://v.kauko.org - neither in English, >> but presumably that can't really be a requirement either. >> >> These websites were not mentioned in the application and my quick google > search did not lead me there...hence I had zero info to decide to approve > membership or not... Once I glanced at the two websites you sent me, it > became easy for me to approve membership... > > >> It would seem the application form is not very well designed >> for individuals, and there's no good process for asking applicants >> for additional info. >> > > If and when GNSO Secretariat agrees to handle the admin tasks for us, this > problem should be solved > > >> (Yes, as whois would reveal I'm behind this, starting to do outreach >> for ncuc.) >> >> As NPOC is very focused about increasing ICANN outreach to the NFP/NGO > world, I'm sure we will work closely together. Already Wolfgang has made a > concrete proposal for doing that, after he read the NPOC 2013 Outreach Plan > (I say ambitious because it is 90% unfunded as we speak. > > >> By the way, it was nice to meet you in LA, even though we had >> really no time to chat. >> > > Maybe in Beijing we will have a bit more time? > >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- >> Tapani Tarvainen >> > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le > destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au > destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement > interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le > reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou > si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer > sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use > of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone > other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for > forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, > distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or > in part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this > e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and > destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le > destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au > destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement > interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le > reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou > si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer > sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use > of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone > other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for > forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, > distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or > in part. 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CTIC Foundation : need more clarification about its nature of non-commercial organization since it is stated in the website "Its purpose is to help companies improve their competitiveness ", even if it has a private non-profit foundation status. Pilots N Paws: the same issue to reappoint another representative. Heather Leason: approve Mike Jones : approve Internet Society Belgium : approve Jordi Iparraguirre: Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao : approve ISOC Armenia : approve Engineering Academy of Armenia : Martin Pablo Silva Valent : approve REAPOC: approve Best Regards, Rafik 2013/2/9 Milton L Mueller > Virpi Kauko (individual member) APPROVE**** > > Serigne: No information **** > > CTIC Foundation: Approve**** > > ** ** > > More later.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [ > mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org ] *On > Behalf Of *Robin Gross > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:00 PM > *To:* ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > *Subject:* [EC-NCSG] current batch of pending NCSG membership > applications - please vote this week**** > > ** ** > > Dear NCSG-EC Members:**** > > ** ** > > We've got 12 new applications for membership in NCSG to evaluate at this > point: **** > > *Virpi Kauko***** > > *Serigne***** > > *CTIC Foundation***** > > *Pilots N Paws***** > > *Heather Leason***** > > *Mike Jones***** > > *Internet Society Belgium***** > > *Jordi Iparraguirre***** > > *Prof. Kottapalli Seshagirirao***** > > *ISOC Armenia***** > > *Engineering Academy of Armenia***** > > *Martin Pablo Silva Valent***** > > ** ** > > Here's the brief summary of the pending applications:**** > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dENsT21PLTFmeW9qZ2pLLWowc3RTbmc&usp=sharing > **** > > ** ** > > Also, remember the full application data is always posted here:**** > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E&usp=sharing > **** > > ** ** > > There were a few duplications in the 2nd link, so those have been weeded > out the summary (1st link above). Also a previous applicant (REPAOC) has > provided supplemental info on funding in the form of a new application, so > that earlier application should be re-considered as well in this batch of > evaluations.**** > > ** ** > > Alain Berranger voted to approve 2 of the applications (ISOC Belgium and > ISOC Armenia) already.**** > > ** ** > > May I please request that each NCSG-EC member evaluate these applications > and vote on them before the end of the week? Please use this list for > discussion of the applications and approval/voting of them.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Robin**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > IP JUSTICE**** > > Robin Gross, Executive Director**** > > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA**** > > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451**** > > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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King" , Nick Tomasso > > Subject: [soac-discussion] Message from the ICANN Meetings Team - > Draft Schedule Agenda > > Dear SO-AC Leaders: > > > On behalf of the ICANN Meetings Team, attached please find a > confidential first draft of the schedule/agenda for the ICANN > Public Meeting in Beijing for your review and comments. > Specifically, the Meeting?s Team would like you to get your > feedback on the current list of ?high interest? main session > topics and the flow of the schedule throughout the week to make > sure that we are on the right track. > > > Under Fadi and Sally?s direction, this first draft reflects a new > approach to the schedule development process with an effort to map > the agenda to our new organizational structure and strategy, and > looking to ICANN?s functional staff leads to identify and/or > develop the important ?high interest? session topics for their > areas of responsibility. > > > The primary objective of this new process is the overall > improvement of ICANN meetings for all participants by providing > reasonable working hours and allowing appropriate time for breaks > and meals, thereby increasing the opportunity for community > collaboration and interaction. This means a reduction in the > overall number of sessions by using pre-meeting community webinars > for topic updates whenever possible, and the consolidation of > various sessions and topics into larger single sessions to > eliminate overlap, and increase cross-community participation in > related topics. > > > With the primary objective in mind, the Meetings Team has > constructed an initial proposed agenda featuring several ?high- > interest? topic sessions to be held in the main meeting room and > secondary ballroom on Mon/Wed/Thurs. (See attached.) The session > topics have already gone under considerable review by Staff and > Board, but it is now time for your reaction and feedback. > > > Please review the attached agenda and advise if you think the major > sessions in the two largest rooms are the most appropriate for the > meeting. They currently include sessions on the following ?high > interest? topics: > > > ? CEO Welcome Session (90 minutes) > > ? IDN Variants (90) > > ? Next Generation TLD Directory Services (75) > > ? DNS Industry Engagement (new gTLDS, Trademark Protection, > RAA) (90) > > ? Experts Panel on ICANN Security (90) > > ? Policy vs. Implementation (90) > > ? ATRT Phase 2 (90) > > ? Operating Plan and Budget (90) > > ? IPv6 Workshop (75) > > ? Internet Governance (90) > > ? Stakeholder Engagement (90) > > ? GNSO Council Meeting (3 hours) > > ? ICANN Public Forum (4.5 hours) > > > > Your feedback at this preliminary stage will be very helpful as we > continue to find ways to improve the scheduling process. I hope we > will be able to get your feedback even earlier in our preparations > for the Durban Meeting. > > > Please share your reactions and thoughts on the topics and the > overall agenda with this list. I will collect all the feedback > received by COB February 18 and share it with the Meetings Team to > help develop the next draft version of the schedule. > > > Regards, David > > > > -- > David A. 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King" , Nick Tomasso >> Subject: [soac-discussion] Message from the ICANN Meetings Team - Draft Schedule Agenda >> >> Dear SO-AC Leaders: >> >> >> On behalf of the ICANN Meetings Team, attached please find a confidential first draft of the schedule/agenda for the ICANN Public Meeting in Beijing for your review and comments. Specifically, the Meeting?s Team would like you to get your feedback on the current list of ?high interest? main session topics and the flow of the schedule throughout the week to make sure that we are on the right track. >> >> >> Under Fadi and Sally?s direction, this first draft reflects a new approach to the schedule development process with an effort to map the agenda to our new organizational structure and strategy, and looking to ICANN?s functional staff leads to identify and/or develop the important ?high interest? session topics for their areas of responsibility. >> >> >> The primary objective of this new process is the overall improvement of ICANN meetings for all participants by providing reasonable working hours and allowing appropriate time for breaks and meals, thereby increasing the opportunity for community collaboration and interaction. This means a reduction in the overall number of sessions by using pre-meeting community webinars for topic updates whenever possible, and the consolidation of various sessions and topics into larger single sessions to eliminate overlap, and increase cross-community participation in related topics. >> >> >> With the primary objective in mind, the Meetings Team has constructed an initial proposed agenda featuring several ?high-interest? topic sessions to be held in the main meeting room and secondary ballroom on Mon/Wed/Thurs. (See attached.) The session topics have already gone under considerable review by Staff and Board, but it is now time for your reaction and feedback. >> >> >> Please review the attached agenda and advise if you think the major sessions in the two largest rooms are the most appropriate for the meeting. They currently include sessions on the following ?high interest? topics: >> >> >> ? CEO Welcome Session (90 minutes) >> >> ? IDN Variants (90) >> >> ? Next Generation TLD Directory Services (75) >> >> ? DNS Industry Engagement (new gTLDS, Trademark Protection, RAA) (90) >> >> ? Experts Panel on ICANN Security (90) >> >> ? Policy vs. Implementation (90) >> >> ? ATRT Phase 2 (90) >> >> ? Operating Plan and Budget (90) >> >> ? IPv6 Workshop (75) >> >> ? Internet Governance (90) >> >> ? Stakeholder Engagement (90) >> >> ? GNSO Council Meeting (3 hours) >> >> ? ICANN Public Forum (4.5 hours) >> >> >> >> Your feedback at this preliminary stage will be very helpful as we continue to find ways to improve the scheduling process. I hope we will be able to get your feedback even earlier in our preparations for the Durban Meeting. >> >> >> Please share your reactions and thoughts on the topics and the overall agenda with this list. I will collect all the feedback received by COB February 18 and share it with the Meetings Team to help develop the next draft version of the schedule. >> >> >> Regards, David >> >> >> >> -- >> David A. 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URL: From robin Tue Feb 19 17:07:41 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:07:41 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Reports needed from participants of NCPH Mtg in LA In-Reply-To: References: <10D9FDBA-2037-4BCF-9747-C201C51F26CF@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <4930454A-A578-4359-9ACB-B9D790EDEEA7@ipjustice.org> Yes, if you look at the entire document in the attachment, it includes both days discussions and the discussion leaders for each discussion over the two days. Not sure why you think this pertains to discussion with Fadi. Thanks, Robin On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:04 AM, William Drake wrote: > Hi Robin > > Any reason to limit it to the Fadi meeting and 3 issues sessions? The other day and half might be of interest too? > > Bill > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:24 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> > > From robin Tue Feb 19 17:13:22 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:13:22 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Reports needed from participants of NCPH Mtg in LA In-Reply-To: <4930454A-A578-4359-9ACB-B9D790EDEEA7@ipjustice.org> References: <10D9FDBA-2037-4BCF-9747-C201C51F26CF@ipjustice.org> <4930454A-A578-4359-9ACB-B9D790EDEEA7@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <9F9099D6-8ECC-4613-9CDB-B0AE495EEBB2@ipjustice.org> And if there are other discussions not detailed here, (like constituency discussions) just add them in to wiki that Avri built for us. No restrictions should be inferred. This is just to get us *started* with some kind of report. Thanks, Robin On Feb 19, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > Yes, if you look at the entire document in the attachment, it includes both days discussions and the discussion leaders for each discussion over the two days. Not sure why you think this pertains to discussion with Fadi. > > Thanks, > Robin > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:04 AM, William Drake wrote: > >> Hi Robin >> >> Any reason to limit it to the Fadi meeting and 3 issues sessions? The other day and half might be of interest too? >> >> Bill >> >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:24 AM, Robin Gross wrote: >> >>> >> >> From robin Tue Feb 19 18:36:50 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:36:50 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Reports needed from participants of NCPH Mtg in LA In-Reply-To: <9C2B16EB-8339-46CA-A0B3-BAB430D114F5@UZH.CH> References: <10D9FDBA-2037-4BCF-9747-C201C51F26CF@ipjustice.org> <4930454A-A578-4359-9ACB-B9D790EDEEA7@ipjustice.org> <9C2B16EB-8339-46CA-A0B3-BAB430D114F5@UZH.CH> Message-ID: One more time: And if there are other discussions not detailed here, (like constituency discussions) just add them in to wiki that Avri built for us. No restrictions should be inferred. This is just to get us *started* with some kind of report. Thanks, Robin On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:01 AM, William Drake wrote: > I did look at it. As I said, it has a page on the meeting with > Fadi, and a page on the three issue session. Which constituted > about 1/4 of the meeting. > > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Yes, if you look at the entire document in the attachment, it >> includes both days discussions and the discussion leaders for each >> discussion over the two days. Not sure why you think this pertains >> to discussion with Fadi. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:04 AM, William Drake >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Robin >>> >>> Any reason to limit it to the Fadi meeting and 3 issues >>> sessions? The other day and half might be of interest too? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:24 AM, Robin Gross >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>> > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Feb 20 01:27:13 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:27:13 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Beijing Communique Message-ID: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> I would like to edit and publish a NCSG communique for the Beijing meeting. GAC issues a meeting communique at the beginning of each ICANN meeting. RrSG Chair now issues a communique before the ICANN meeting too. So why not NCSG too? And it is a good way to present our concerns to the community and focus on a particular timely issue, using our own words and being able to frame the issue ourselves. It could also be a great outreach tool for potential members and anyone who is interested in learning more about NCSG. Do others think it would be a good idea to do? The specifics of my draft proposal are below. Any other thoughts or suggestions along these lines? Anyone want to work with me on it? Thanks, Robin NCSG Beijing Communique One-page printed hand-out. Front and back, so really two pages of text. Request ICANN to print the hand-out. Audience: Participants at ICANN #46, especially new comers, potential members, anyone interested in learning more about NCSG's concerns and make-up. Also, NCSG members can take a small stack home with them and hand out to potential members or others interested in learning more about NCSG in the coming months. Published (online) a few days before Beijing opens. Draft Outline / Components of Communique I. Who we (noncommercial users) are II. Select NCSG Policy Issues A. Summary of any recent NCSG policy statements B. Beijing Focus Issue: [ WHOIS ? ] III. NCSG Membership Accomplishments A. Recent membership growth numbers & great regional diversity B. NCSG members who have participated on WCIT, IGF, IETF, WSIS, etc. IV. Why to Get Involved & How to Join NCSG V. Up-Coming Non-Commercial Initiatives Look-out for NCUC Durban Event & possible NCSG event at IGF IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Wed Feb 20 01:41:43 2013 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:41:43 -0500 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Beijing Communique In-Reply-To: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> References: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin, Sounds like a real good idea to me. Let me run it by NPOC-EC and recruit editing help at the same time. We should include a few pictures just to make it a bit attractive. ICANN staff can pretty it up too once the text Is finalized. You can count on me to work with you on it. We should have a quarter or half a page in mandarin to catch local attention in Beijing. On section V content, I would include the NPOC events in Beijing too ("The impact of new gTLDs on NGOs/NFPs" is one of the two 2hr workshops we are planning (if ICANN give us the rooms!) Alain On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Robin Gross wrote: > I would like to edit and publish a NCSG communique for the Beijing > meeting. GAC issues a meeting communique at the beginning of each ICANN > meeting. RrSG Chair now issues a communique before the ICANN meeting too. > So why not NCSG too? And it is a good way to present our concerns to the > community and focus on a particular timely issue, using our own words and > being able to frame the issue ourselves. It could also be a great outreach > tool for potential members and anyone who is interested in learning more > about NCSG. Do others think it would be a good idea to do? The specifics > of my draft proposal are below. Any other thoughts or suggestions along > these lines? Anyone want to work with me on it? > > Thanks, > Robin > > *NCSG Beijing Communique* > > One-page printed hand-out. Front and back, so really two pages of text. > > Request ICANN to print the hand-out. > > Audience: Participants at ICANN #46, especially new comers, potential > members, anyone interested in learning more about NCSG's concerns and > make-up. Also, NCSG members can take a small stack home with them and hand > out to potential members or others interested in learning more about NCSG > in the coming months. > > Published (online) a few days before Beijing opens. > > Draft Outline / Components of Communique > > I. Who we (noncommercial users) are > > II. Select NCSG Policy Issues > A. Summary of any recent NCSG policy statements > B. Beijing Focus Issue: [ WHOIS ? ] > > III. NCSG Membership Accomplishments > A. Recent membership growth numbers & great regional diversity > B. NCSG members who have participated on WCIT, IGF, IETF, WSIS, etc. > > IV. Why to Get Involved & How to Join NCSG > > V. Up-Coming Non-Commercial Initiatives > Look-out for NCUC Durban Event & possible NCSG event at IGF > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. 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NCSG Meetings in Beijing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dG11eV9fZWJMbUdEQW9PRnY4cnFNWVE&usp=sharing The schedule is very very DRAFT. Especially times for the NCSG-EC and NCSG-PC. I've tried to list a tentative / proposed time for the discussion and possible discussion topics and meeting outputs. Please comment, add, or subtract as desired. Hopefully we can keep track of the logistics for our week's main NCSG meetings in this document. And the spreadsheet can evolve and change over the coming months to suit the membership's interest and concerns. (And be used as template for organizing our participation in Durban and beyond.] I included the possibility of an outreach event to local civil society in Beijing as we sometimes do, but given all the other activities this week, we may want to skip it in Beijing. Comments, thoughts, suggestions are all welcome. We will come into Beijing prepared and ready to roll! Thanks! Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Feb 20 02:33:09 2013 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:33:09 -0800 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Beijing Communique In-Reply-To: References: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <2A614B60-C72A-4179-B44E-ED2D6B730FA8@ipjustice.org> All great suggestions and thanks very much for your offer to help, Alain! Best, Robin On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear Robin, > > Sounds like a real good idea to me. Let me run it by NPOC-EC and > recruit editing help at the same time. We should include a few > pictures just to make it a bit attractive. ICANN staff can pretty > it up too once the text Is finalized. You can count on me to work > with you on it. > We should have a quarter or half a page in mandarin to catch local > attention in Beijing. On section V content, I would include the > NPOC events in Beijing too ("The impact of new gTLDs on NGOs/NFPs" > is one of the two 2hr workshops we are planning (if ICANN give us > the rooms!) > > Alain > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Robin Gross wrote: > I would like to edit and publish a NCSG communique for the Beijing > meeting. GAC issues a meeting communique at the beginning of each > ICANN meeting. RrSG Chair now issues a communique before the ICANN > meeting too. So why not NCSG too? And it is a good way to present > our concerns to the community and focus on a particular timely > issue, using our own words and being able to frame the issue > ourselves. It could also be a great outreach tool for potential > members and anyone who is interested in learning more about NCSG. > Do others think it would be a good idea to do? The specifics of my > draft proposal are below. Any other thoughts or suggestions along > these lines? Anyone want to work with me on it? > > Thanks, > Robin > > NCSG Beijing Communique > > One-page printed hand-out. Front and back, so really two pages of > text. > > Request ICANN to print the hand-out. > > Audience: Participants at ICANN #46, especially new comers, > potential members, anyone interested in learning more about NCSG's > concerns and make-up. Also, NCSG members can take a small stack > home with them and hand out to potential members or others > interested in learning more about NCSG in the coming months. > > Published (online) a few days before Beijing opens. > > Draft Outline / Components of Communique > > I. Who we (noncommercial users) are > > II. Select NCSG Policy Issues > A. Summary of any recent NCSG policy statements > B. Beijing Focus Issue: [ WHOIS ? ] > > III. NCSG Membership Accomplishments > A. Recent membership growth numbers & great regional diversity > B. NCSG members who have participated on WCIT, IGF, IETF, WSIS, > etc. > > IV. Why to Get Involved & How to Join NCSG > > V. Up-Coming Non-Commercial Initiatives > Look-out for NCUC Durban Event & possible NCSG event at IGF > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. 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URL: From rafik.dammak Fri Feb 22 13:03:55 2013 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:03:55 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] spreadsheet to organize logistical details and discussion topics, outputs for NCSG participation in Beijing In-Reply-To: <776024F0-FFE1-432A-8D17-DFD61B4E7F20@ipjustice.org> References: <776024F0-FFE1-432A-8D17-DFD61B4E7F20@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: thanks Robin, can gnso councillors update us about the draft schedule for beijing meeting, for example is ncsg-alac meeting overlapping with gnso council public meeting or not? Rafik 2013/2/20 Robin Gross > All, > > As you're aware, we've begun preparation for our participation at the > Beijing ICANN Meeting in April. That means organizing many different > meetings over the course of the week and keeping track of all the > discussion topics and logistical issues. I've created a Google Docs > spreadsheet to keep track of our participation in Beijing in one place. > > NCSG Meetings in Beijing: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dG11eV9fZWJMbUdEQW9PRnY4cnFNWVE&usp=sharing > > The schedule is very very DRAFT. Especially times for the NCSG-EC and > NCSG-PC. > > I've tried to list a tentative / proposed time for the discussion and > possible discussion topics and meeting outputs. Please comment, add, or > subtract as desired. > > Hopefully we can keep track of the logistics for our week's main NCSG > meetings in this document. And the spreadsheet can evolve and change over > the coming months to suit the membership's interest and concerns. (And be > used as template for organizing our participation in Durban and beyond.] > > I included the possibility of an outreach event to local civil society in > Beijing as we sometimes do, but given all the other activities this week, > we may want to skip it in Beijing. > > Comments, thoughts, suggestions are all welcome. We will come into > Beijing prepared and ready to roll! > > Thanks! > Robin > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > thanks Robin, can gnso councillors update us about the draft > schedule for beijing meeting, for example is ncsg-alac meeting > overlapping with gnso council public meeting or not? > > Rafik > > > 2013/2/20 Robin Gross > All, > > As you're aware, we've begun preparation for our participation at > the Beijing ICANN Meeting in April. That means organizing many > different meetings over the course of the week and keeping track of > all the discussion topics and logistical issues. I've created a > Google Docs spreadsheet to keep track of our participation in > Beijing in one place. > > NCSG Meetings in Beijing: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? > key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dG11eV9fZWJMbUdEQW9PRnY4cnFNWVE&usp=sharing > > The schedule is very very DRAFT. Especially times for the NCSG-EC > and NCSG-PC. > > I've tried to list a tentative / proposed time for the discussion > and possible discussion topics and meeting outputs. Please > comment, add, or subtract as desired. > > Hopefully we can keep track of the logistics for our week's main > NCSG meetings in this document. And the spreadsheet can evolve and > change over the coming months to suit the membership's interest and > concerns. (And be used as template for organizing our > participation in Durban and beyond.] > > I included the possibility of an outreach event to local civil > society in Beijing as we sometimes do, but given all the other > activities this week, we may want to skip it in Beijing. > > Comments, thoughts, suggestions are all welcome. We will come into > Beijing prepared and ready to roll! > > Thanks! > Robin > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Beijing46-BlockSched-HotTopics-Feb13[2].pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 67394 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Sun Feb 24 01:08:19 2013 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:08:19 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] spreadsheet to organize logistical details and discussion topics, outputs for NCSG participation in Beijing Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD23553AE@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> An hour and a half? That's all we get for the policy conference? From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Robin Gross Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:49 AM To: Rafik Dammak Cc: NCSG-Policy Policy; William Drake; ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] spreadsheet to organize logistical details and discussion topics, outputs for NCSG participation in Beijing Hi Rafik, Attached is the only draft schedule that ICANN has provided so far (just over a week ago) used together with the Beijing mtg schedule on the website. We built our meeting times around ICANN's draft schedule. It is tentative and may change depending on changes to the ICANN schedule. Thanks, Robin On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: thanks Robin, can gnso councillors update us about the draft schedule for beijing meeting, for example is ncsg-alac meeting overlapping with gnso council public meeting or not? Rafik 2013/2/20 Robin Gross > All, As you're aware, we've begun preparation for our participation at the Beijing ICANN Meeting in April. That means organizing many different meetings over the course of the week and keeping track of all the discussion topics and logistical issues. I've created a Google Docs spreadsheet to keep track of our participation in Beijing in one place. NCSG Meetings in Beijing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmHFgvYjF_e4dG11eV9fZWJMbUdEQW9PRnY4cnFNWVE&usp=sharing The schedule is very very DRAFT. Especially times for the NCSG-EC and NCSG-PC. I've tried to list a tentative / proposed time for the discussion and possible discussion topics and meeting outputs. Please comment, add, or subtract as desired. Hopefully we can keep track of the logistics for our week's main NCSG meetings in this document. And the spreadsheet can evolve and change over the coming months to suit the membership's interest and concerns. (And be used as template for organizing our participation in Durban and beyond.] I included the possibility of an outreach event to local civil society in Beijing as we sometimes do, but given all the other activities this week, we may want to skip it in Beijing. Comments, thoughts, suggestions are all welcome. We will come into Beijing prepared and ready to roll! Thanks! 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URL: From rafik.dammak Mon Feb 25 14:16:30 2013 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:16:30 +0900 Subject: [EC-NCSG] NCSG Beijing Communique In-Reply-To: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> References: <11616215-761C-4026-A99C-96D60C48416A@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Hi Robin, thanks for the proposal, I think that is more flyer/brochure than communique (btw we should make a formal statement/communique after ICANN meeting to summary all our positions and opinions we have during the meeting following GAC example but more short, anyway that is another suggestion) I see many points to be in just one-page print-out, so we should prioritize content and avoid to make it really full and then unreadable. I guess the focus is about joining NCSG and "who we are", our lastest NCSG and members activities and Alain's idea about paragraph in local languages, some photo in background, something not flashy, professional. texts need to be carefully written since they are a kind of "sales pitch" to do outreach. I guess that should be in front page and the rest in the back anyway to get better picture of what we want to do, maybe we can put those plan in doc and start playing with section , how to split in sections and what to add or remove Rafik 2013/2/20 Robin Gross > I would like to edit and publish a NCSG communique for the Beijing > meeting. GAC issues a meeting communique at the beginning of each ICANN > meeting. RrSG Chair now issues a communique before the ICANN meeting too. > So why not NCSG too? And it is a good way to present our concerns to the > community and focus on a particular timely issue, using our own words and > being able to frame the issue ourselves. It could also be a great outreach > tool for potential members and anyone who is interested in learning more > about NCSG. Do others think it would be a good idea to do? The specifics > of my draft proposal are below. Any other thoughts or suggestions along > these lines? Anyone want to work with me on it? > > Thanks, > Robin > > *NCSG Beijing Communique* > > One-page printed hand-out. Front and back, so really two pages of text. > > Request ICANN to print the hand-out. > > Audience: Participants at ICANN #46, especially new comers, potential > members, anyone interested in learning more about NCSG's concerns and > make-up. Also, NCSG members can take a small stack home with them and hand > out to potential members or others interested in learning more about NCSG > in the coming months. > > Published (online) a few days before Beijing opens. > > Draft Outline / Components of Communique > > I. Who we (noncommercial users) are > > II. Select NCSG Policy Issues > A. Summary of any recent NCSG policy statements > B. Beijing Focus Issue: [ WHOIS ? ] > > III. NCSG Membership Accomplishments > A. Recent membership growth numbers & great regional diversity > B. NCSG members who have participated on WCIT, IGF, IETF, WSIS, etc. > > IV. Why to Get Involved & How to Join NCSG > > V. Up-Coming Non-Commercial Initiatives > Look-out for NCUC Durban Event & possible NCSG event at IGF > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: