From robin Tue Oct 2 21:35:53 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:35:53 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] applications to join ncsg Message-ID: <19D79C6D-547C-4484-B0D0-65D351BB2346@ipjustice.org> Dear EC members: We've got a couple membership applications to evaluate in the google docs folder. Let's try to move these through in the next week, so we are up to date on all pending applications going into the Toronto meeting. So please have a look at the pending applications and raise any issues or vote to approve them on this list in the coming days. Thank you very much! Best, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robin Wed Oct 3 05:42:47 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:42:47 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <246FB5F7-4EBB-41AF-8DF3-7B3C63467E6D@ipjustice.org> Dear Alain, I have no objection to holding a NCSG-EC face-to-face meeting to discuss issues in Toronto. But you really need to learn to use the NCSG mailing lists that were set up explicitly for that purpose. You have been asked to explain yourself on this allegedly inappropriate application question by providing what information you are talking about when you claim it is an illegal question. Now please present what you are talking about. You don't need to wait for a face-to-face meeting for this. Many of us have been waiting for to explain yourself for quite some time now. Please use these lists so there is a record of the discussion. Thank you, Robin On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues: > > Can we please have a meeting in Toronto? > > There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved > issues to be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in > Prague to no avail. > > Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to > NCSG as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real > SG, we should meet and deal with the issues. > > Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members > are available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting. > > I propose the following agenda: > > 1. Pending and disputed applications; > 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the > NGO financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was > included without NPOC's agreement; > 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current > complaint to Ombudsman; > 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG. > > Alain > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . 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Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Wed Oct 3 05:56:24 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:56:24 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto In-Reply-To: <246FB5F7-4EBB-41AF-8DF3-7B3C63467E6D@ipjustice.org> References: <246FB5F7-4EBB-41AF-8DF3-7B3C63467E6D@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin, Will do shortly - I thought it was obvious. When do you want to have that meeting? Alain On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear Alain, > > I have no objection to holding a NCSG-EC face-to-face meeting to discuss > issues in Toronto. But you really need to learn to use the NCSG mailing > lists that were set up explicitly for that purpose. > > You have been asked to explain yourself on this allegedly inappropriate > application question by providing what information you are talking about > when you claim it is an illegal question. Now please present what you are > talking about. You don't need to wait for a face-to-face meeting for this. > > > Many of us have been waiting for to explain yourself for quite some time > now. Please use these lists so there is a record of the discussion. > > Thank you, > Robin > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues: > > Can we please have a meeting in Toronto? > > There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved issues to > be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in Prague to no avail. > > Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to NCSG > as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real SG, we should > meet and deal with the issues. > > Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members are > available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting. > > I propose the following agenda: > > 1. Pending and disputed applications; > 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the NGO > financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was included > without NPOC's agreement; > 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current > complaint to Ombudsman; > 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG. > > Alain > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le > destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au > destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement > interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le > reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou > si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer > sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use > of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone > other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for > forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, > distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or > in part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this > e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and > destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. 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When you allege that NCSG is doing something "illegal" by continuing the long standing practice of asking potential members how they are funded, especially given the explicit obligation in the NCSG Charter of EC members to undertake due diligence to ensure applicants do in fact meet the eligibility requirements, including being noncommercial, *you* have an initial burden of explaining yourself. We patiently await for you to post in writing to this public list your explanation as how this practice is allegedly "illegal". I'll check on scheduling and propose some times to the list. Thanks, Robin On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear Robin, > > Will do shortly - I thought it was obvious. When do you want to > have that meeting? > > Alain > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear Alain, > > I have no objection to holding a NCSG-EC face-to-face meeting to > discuss issues in Toronto. But you really need to learn to use the > NCSG mailing lists that were set up explicitly for that purpose. > > You have been asked to explain yourself on this allegedly > inappropriate application question by providing what information > you are talking about when you claim it is an illegal question. > Now please present what you are talking about. You don't need to > wait for a face-to-face meeting for this. > > Many of us have been waiting for to explain yourself for quite some > time now. Please use these lists so there is a record of the > discussion. > > Thank you, > Robin > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > >> Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues: >> >> Can we please have a meeting in Toronto? >> >> There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved >> issues to be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in >> Prague to no avail. >> >> Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached >> to NCSG as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a >> real SG, we should meet and deal with the issues. >> >> Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members >> are available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting. >> >> I propose the following agenda: >> >> 1. Pending and disputed applications; >> 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding >> the NGO financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and >> was included without NPOC's agreement; >> 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current >> complaint to Ombudsman; >> 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG. >> >> Alain >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >> www.gkpfoundation.org >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger >> >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du >> destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message >> sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne >> responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes >> avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le >> distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en >> partie . 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Thank you for your cooperation. >> >> > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. 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From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Alain Berranger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:27 PM To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org Cc: gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org; npoc at icann.org Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues: Can we please have a meeting in Toronto? There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved issues to be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in Prague to no avail. Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to NCSG as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real SG, we should meet and deal with the issues. Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members are available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting. I propose the following agenda: 1. Pending and disputed applications; 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the NGO financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was included without NPOC's agreement; 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current complaint to Ombudsman; 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG. Alain -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l'usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l'employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu'il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de votre coop?ration. CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Wed Oct 3 16:27:16 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:27:16 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD224782A@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD224782A@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Milton, there was no NCSG-EC meeting in Prague, despite my request. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Let me express complete support for an NCSG meeting in Toronto. We > always have one, don't we? **** > > I wasn?t at Prague, but we certainly had an NCSG meeting distinct from > NCUC in Costa Rica.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto: > ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Alain Berranger > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:27 PM > *To:* ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > *Cc:* gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org; npoc at icann.org > *Subject:* [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto**** > > ** ** > > Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues:**** > > ** ** > > Can we please have a meeting in Toronto?**** > > ** ** > > There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved issues to > be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in Prague to no avail.*** > * > > ** ** > > Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to NCSG > as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real SG, we should > meet and deal with the issues.**** > > ** ** > > Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members are > available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting.**** > > ** ** > > I propose the following agenda:**** > > ** ** > > 1. Pending and disputed applications;**** > > 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the NGO > financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was included > without NPOC's agreement;**** > > 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current > complaint to Ombudsman;**** > > 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG.**** > > ** ** > > Alain > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA**** > > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > **** > > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > **** > > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org* > *** > > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?**** > > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le > destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au > destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement > interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le > reproduire, en tout ou en partie . 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Thank you, Robin On Oct 3, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Milton, there was no NCSG-EC meeting in Prague, despite my request. > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Milton L Mueller > wrote: > Let me express complete support for an NCSG meeting in Toronto. We > always have one, don't we? > > I wasn?t at Prague, but we certainly had an NCSG meeting distinct > from NCUC in Costa Rica. > > > > From: ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:ec-ncsg- > bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Alain Berranger > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:27 PM > To: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org > Cc: gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org; npoc at icann.org > Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto > > > > Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues: > > > > Can we please have a meeting in Toronto? > > > > There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved > issues to be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in > Prague to no avail. > > > > Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to > NCSG as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real > SG, we should meet and deal with the issues. > > > > Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members > are available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting. > > > > I propose the following agenda: > > > > 1. Pending and disputed applications; > > 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the > NGO financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was > included without NPOC's agreement; > > 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current > complaint to Ombudsman; > > 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG. > > > > Alain > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . 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URL: From alain.berranger Wed Oct 3 19:33:29 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:33:29 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto In-Reply-To: <2DA41D4E-0670-424D-8146-EAD960578564@ipjustice.org> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD224782A@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <2DA41D4E-0670-424D-8146-EAD960578564@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Hi Robin, I recall I argued that a F2F meeting between the three members present in Prague would have been useful... This time in Toronto we should be able to hold a F2F meeting, no? I leave the scheduling to you as Chair, if you think worthwhile. Cheers, Alain On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > Alain, > > We did talk about scheduling an EC meeting in Prague, but there were only > 3 members of the EC in Prague, hence the need to discuss things on this > mailing list. > > Thank you, > Robin > > On Oct 3, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Milton, there was no NCSG-EC meeting in Prague, despite my request. > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> Let me express complete support for an NCSG meeting in Toronto. We >> always have one, don't we? **** >> >> I wasn?t at Prague, but we certainly had an NCSG meeting distinct from >> NCUC in Costa Rica.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto: >> ec-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Alain Berranger >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:27 PM >> *To:* ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org >> *Cc:* gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org; npoc at icann.org >> *Subject:* [EC-NCSG] Requesting an NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Dear NCSG-EC Colleagues:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Can we please have a meeting in Toronto?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> There is a lot of NCSG house cleaning to be done and unresolved issues to >> be addressed. I had asked for an NCSG-EC meeting in Prague to no avail.** >> ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Everybody at ICANN knows that NPOC is only tangentially attached to NCSG >> as a late comer. If we are to be serious about running a real SG, we should >> meet and deal with the issues.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Please advise soonest if this is agreable to you. NPOC-EC members are >> available for an enlarged NCSG Execs meeting.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I propose the following agenda:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> 1. Pending and disputed applications;**** >> >> 2. Resolving differences on the NCSG Application form regarding the NGO >> financing question, which NPOC considers inappropriate and was included >> without NPOC's agreement;**** >> >> 3. Respecting the NCSG Charter in the NCSG-Discuss list - current >> complaint to Ombudsman;**** >> >> 4. Thinking of alternate ways to organize the SG.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Alain >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA**** >> >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> **** >> >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca**** >> >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org >> **** >> >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?**** >> >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >> ci-dessus. 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So > please have a look at the pending applications and raise any issues or vote > to approve them on this list in the coming days. Thank you very much! > > Best, > Robin > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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I'm happy to set up a discussion at any of these times. We'll ask for remote participation, of course, for those who can't be in Toronto. Thanks, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Fri Oct 5 23:00:13 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:00:13 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending membership applications Message-ID: Dear EC Members: Reminder: NCSG membership application data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 In summary, we have the following 9 applications pending (at the bottom of the spreadsheet), many which have just come in recently: 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations 2. British Red Cross 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement 4. Benjamin Farrand 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan 6. Edamwen Anthony 7. Niel Harper 8. Stefania Milan 9. REPAOC Please be sure to do your due diligence in evaluating these applications, and post to this list your questions, concerns, approvals, etc. about these applicants. Is it too ambitious to ask that we try to get through applications in the next week? Thank you very much! Best, Robin IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Fri Oct 5 23:13:40 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:13:40 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] scheduling an NCSG-EC mtg in Toronto? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The suggested times are already full. I prefer an NCSG-EC meeting limited to EC. Open for me are: Sunday before 10:30; Sunday lunch; Monday between 11:00 and 17:00; Alain On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > I'm looking at the schedule to find a time to hold an EC meeting in > Toronto. We could do it either Sunday (14th) afternoon or (18th) Thursday > mid-late morning. Another possibility would be to set aside 1 of our 2 > hours on Tuesday (16th) during the NCSG meeting for an EC discussion. The > drawback with Tuesday is we would have less time to prepare for our meeting > with board immediately after our NCSG meeting, but we could invite the > entire NCSG to join and they will already be there, and that would be worth > doing. > > What day would folks prefer? I'm happy to set up a discussion at any of > these times. > > We'll ask for remote participation, of course, for those who can't be in > Toronto. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Another possibility would be to set aside 1 of our 2 > hours on Tuesday (16th) during the NCSG meeting for an EC discussion. The > drawback with Tuesday is we would have less time to prepare for our meeting > with board immediately after our NCSG meeting, but we could invite the > entire NCSG to join and they will already be there, and that would be worth > doing. > > What day would folks prefer? I'm happy to set up a discussion at any of > these times. > > We'll ask for remote participation, of course, for those who can't be in > Toronto. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Tue Oct 9 00:35:14 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:35:14 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending membership applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Please see my decisions below. This NCSG application form is surely confusing andactually bringing NPOC prospects into NCUC, which is of course not the purpose of NPOC recruiting efforts. This is simply ridiculous!... and I don't care who makes the mistake in filling up the form!!!! For whatever it is worth, I approve* as NPOC members*: 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations (should be NPOC only not NCUC); 2. British Red Cross (it is wrongly listed as NCUC prospect but it is an NPOC driven application - maybe NCUC would like us to request to US Red Cross that they transfer to NCUC the US Red? (sarcastic comment just to be sure with no intention to insult anyone); 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement (is NPOC only not NCUC) - my good friend Olivier and 9. REPAOC (NPOC only) - recruited by Marie-laure Lemineur from NPOC. I also approve 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan (NCUC member only) I leave the approval of NCUC individuals to NCUC Execs. Klaus, this will confirm to you that the form is confusing and not fair to NPOC. Dare I request improvements or will I get a slap on the wrist and be tagged as an eternal complainer? Alain On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > Reminder: NCSG membership application data: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 > > In summary, we have the following 9 applications pending (at the bottom of > the spreadsheet), many which have just come in recently: > > 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > 2. British Red Cross > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > 4. Benjamin Farrand > 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan > 6. Edamwen Anthony > 7. Niel Harper > 8. Stefania Milan > 9. REPAOC > > Please be sure to do your due diligence in evaluating these applications, > and post to this list your questions, concerns, approvals, etc. about these > applicants. > > Is it too ambitious to ask that we try to get through applications in the > next week? > > Thank you very much! > > Best, > Robin > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Those of us who are demanding this meeting cannot also be unavailable for it during the official ICANN week, so we will choose from the following times, depending on what works for most EC members. I'd be glad to set up a doodle poll if needed, but hopefully we can get this scheduled via email in the next day. Please choose from the following times for the EC meeting: Monday 15 October 17:00 Tuesday 16 October (during NCSG mtg 14:00) Wednesday 17 October 13:00 Thursday 18 October 13:00 Thank you, Robin NCSG Executive Committee Meeting Draft Discussion Agenda 1. NCSG Membership Issues a. Process for joining NCSG b. Eligibility issues c. Online application issues d. Pending applications discussion 2. Status of Jim Bikoff Complaint to Ombudsman 3. Reminder: All NCSG-EC terms end with the conclusion of annual meeting in Toronto and constituencies should each appoint their 2 replacement representatives to the NCSG-EC asap. AOB IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Tue Oct 9 04:56:50 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:56:50 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] draft discussion agenda for NCSG-EC mtg and proposed mtg times to choose from In-Reply-To: <01E3EFAE-8B4D-4694-AC80-03A424B3A694@ipjustice.org> References: <01E3EFAE-8B4D-4694-AC80-03A424B3A694@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin. Thanks. I'm available at all the mentioned slots. I see that we have mostly membership issues on the agenda. I hope Klaus will be able to join the meeting as an observer in his capacity as NPOC's Membership Committee Chair and that NCSG-EC members will be in agreement with his ex-officio participation. Best, Alain On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC members: > > Below is a draft discussion agenda for our NCSG Executive Committee > meeting in Toronto. > > Also below are proposed times to hold this EC meeting. We can't do it on > the weekend because of GNSO Council meetings happening all day that several > of us will be in, so we have to select a time from within the regular ICANN > meeting Monday-Thursday. > > Those of us who are demanding this meeting cannot also be unavailable for > it during the official ICANN week, so we will choose from the following > times, depending on what works for most EC members. I'd be glad to set up > a doodle poll if needed, but hopefully we can get this scheduled via email > in the next day. Please choose from the following times for the EC meeting: > Monday 15 October 17:00 > Tuesday 16 October (during NCSG mtg 14:00) > Wednesday 17 October 13:00 > Thursday 18 October 13:00 > > Thank you, > Robin > > NCSG Executive Committee Meeting > Draft Discussion Agenda > > 1. NCSG Membership Issues > a. Process for joining NCSG > b. Eligibility issues > c. Online application issues > d. Pending applications discussion > > 2. Status of Jim Bikoff Complaint to Ombudsman > > 3. Reminder: All NCSG-EC terms end with the conclusion of annual meeting > in Toronto and constituencies should each appoint their 2 replacement > representatives to the NCSG-EC asap. > > AOB > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Since all NCSG meetings are always open to observers from the NCSG membership, of course Klaus is welcome to observe this NCSG-EC meeting. Thanks, Robin On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear Robin. > > Thanks. I'm available at all the mentioned slots. I see that we > have mostly membership issues on the agenda. I hope Klaus will be > able to join the meeting as an observer in his capacity as NPOC's > Membership Committee Chair and that NCSG-EC members will be in > agreement with his ex-officio participation. > > Best, Alain > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear EC members: > > Below is a draft discussion agenda for our NCSG Executive Committee > meeting in Toronto. > > Also below are proposed times to hold this EC meeting. We can't do > it on the weekend because of GNSO Council meetings happening all > day that several of us will be in, so we have to select a time from > within the regular ICANN meeting Monday-Thursday. > > Those of us who are demanding this meeting cannot also be > unavailable for it during the official ICANN week, so we will > choose from the following times, depending on what works for most > EC members. I'd be glad to set up a doodle poll if needed, but > hopefully we can get this scheduled via email in the next day. > Please choose from the following times for the EC meeting: > Monday 15 October 17:00 > Tuesday 16 October (during NCSG mtg 14:00) > Wednesday 17 October 13:00 > Thursday 18 October 13:00 > > Thank you, > Robin > > NCSG Executive Committee Meeting > Draft Discussion Agenda > > 1. NCSG Membership Issues > a. Process for joining NCSG > b. Eligibility issues > c. Online application issues > d. Pending applications discussion > > 2. Status of Jim Bikoff Complaint to Ombudsman > > 3. Reminder: All NCSG-EC terms end with the conclusion of annual > meeting in Toronto and constituencies should each appoint their 2 > replacement representatives to the NCSG-EC asap. > > AOB > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Oct 10 18:53:40 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:53:40 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending membership applications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01224AAF-295A-4880-A7C8-F22E8FD62D9A@ipjustice.org> Alain, No need for you to go into hysterics. We have all agreed the form needs a number of improvements. What we need to discuss calmly, without accusations or hysterical claims of being beaten, is what specific changes need to be made and how to do it (who and when). And we are still waiting for you to explain your claim that it is an "illegal" activity for EC to conduct due diligence. The membership approval process for NCSG is not the same as individual constituencies. Firstly, NCSG-EC handles the applications for membership to the NCSG. NCUC and NPOC have no vote in NCSG memberships - only the NCSG-EC. So we can't offload the NCSG responsibilities onto constituencies, who have their own membership evaluations to make. I have no idea what you are talking about with this "US Red", but I suspect I don't really need to know. We will spend some time in our NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto going over this process, but I again ask that you review the NCSG Charter and what it says about NCSG EC and membership because that is the document we follow on these issue. Thanks, Robin On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Please see my decisions below. > > This NCSG application form is surely confusing andactually > bringing NPOC prospects into NCUC, which is of course not the > purpose of NPOC recruiting efforts. This is simply ridiculous!... > and I don't care who makes the mistake in filling up the form!!!! > > For whatever it is worth, I approve as NPOC members: 1. National > Council for Voluntary Organisations (should be NPOC only not NCUC); > 2. British Red Cross (it is wrongly listed as NCUC prospect but it > is an NPOC driven application - maybe NCUC would like us to request > to US Red Cross that they transfer to NCUC the US Red? (sarcastic > comment just to be sure with no intention to insult anyone); > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement (is NPOC only > not NCUC) - my good friend Olivier and 9. REPAOC (NPOC only) - > recruited by Marie-laure Lemineur from NPOC. > > I also approve 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan (NCUC member only) > > I leave the approval of NCUC individuals to NCUC Execs. > > Klaus, this will confirm to you that the form is confusing and not > fair to NPOC. Dare I request improvements or will I get a slap on > the wrist and be tagged as an eternal complainer? > > Alain > > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > Reminder: NCSG membership application data: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc? > key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 > > In summary, we have the following 9 applications pending (at the > bottom of the spreadsheet), many which have just come in recently: > > 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > 2. British Red Cross > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > 4. Benjamin Farrand > 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan > 6. Edamwen Anthony > 7. Niel Harper > 8. Stefania Milan > 9. REPAOC > > Please be sure to do your due diligence in evaluating these > applications, and post to this list your questions, concerns, > approvals, etc. about these applicants. > > Is it too ambitious to ask that we try to get through applications > in the next week? > > Thank you very much! > > Best, > Robin > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Thu Oct 11 17:14:44 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:14:44 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending membership applications In-Reply-To: <01224AAF-295A-4880-A7C8-F22E8FD62D9A@ipjustice.org> References: <01224AAF-295A-4880-A7C8-F22E8FD62D9A@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Robin, I have not seen the evaluation and/or approval (or not) for this group of applications from anyone else. I still owe the NCSG-EC, the "illegal funding question" justification and am working on it. By the way it is not about restricting due diligence (that's up to each NCSG member to carry out anyway) but about the funding question being inappropriate... NPOC's approach is about inclusiveness and making it easy to become an NPOC member. Alain On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > Alain, > > No need for you to go into hysterics. We have all agreed the form needs a > number of improvements. What we need to discuss calmly, without > accusations or hysterical claims of being beaten, is what specific changes > need to be made and how to do it (who and when). And we are still waiting > for you to explain your claim that it is an "illegal" activity for EC to > conduct due diligence. > > The membership approval process for NCSG is not the same as individual > constituencies. Firstly, NCSG-EC handles the applications for membership > to the NCSG. NCUC and NPOC have no vote in NCSG memberships - only the > NCSG-EC. So we can't offload the NCSG responsibilities onto > constituencies, who have their own membership evaluations to make. > > I have no idea what you are talking about with this "US Red", but I > suspect I don't really need to know. > > We will spend some time in our NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto going over this > process, but I again ask that you review the NCSG Charter and what it says > about NCSG EC and membership because that is the document we follow on > these issue. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > Please see my decisions below. > > This NCSG application form is surely confusing andactually bringing NPOC > prospects into NCUC, which is of course not the purpose of NPOC recruiting > efforts. This is simply ridiculous!... and I don't care who makes the > mistake in filling up the form!!!! > > For whatever it is worth, I approve* as NPOC members*: 1. National > Council for Voluntary Organisations (should be NPOC only not NCUC); > 2. British Red Cross (it is wrongly listed as NCUC prospect but it is an > NPOC driven application - maybe NCUC would like us to request to US Red > Cross that they transfer to NCUC the US Red? (sarcastic comment just to be > sure with no intention to insult anyone); > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement (is NPOC only not > NCUC) - my good friend Olivier and 9. REPAOC (NPOC only) - recruited by > Marie-laure Lemineur from NPOC. > > I also approve 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan (NCUC member only) > > I leave the approval of NCUC individuals to NCUC Execs. > > Klaus, this will confirm to you that the form is confusing and not fair to > NPOC. Dare I request improvements or will I get a slap on the wrist and be > tagged as an eternal complainer? > > Alain > > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear EC Members: >> >> Reminder: NCSG membership application data: >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ane1uzL43HhedDFhOWZOTEVhMzZUYUszVFhpX1JEU1E#gid=0 >> >> In summary, we have the following 9 applications pending (at the bottom >> of the spreadsheet), many which have just come in recently: >> >> 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >> 2. British Red Cross >> 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >> 4. Benjamin Farrand >> 5. Bytes for All, Pakistan >> 6. Edamwen Anthony >> 7. Niel Harper >> 8. Stefania Milan >> 9. REPAOC >> >> Please be sure to do your due diligence in evaluating these applications, >> and post to this list your questions, concerns, approvals, etc. about these >> applicants. >> >> Is it too ambitious to ask that we try to get through applications in the >> next week? >> >> Thank you very much! >> >> Best, >> Robin >> >> >> IP JUSTICE >> Robin Gross, Executive Director >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EC-NCSG mailing list >> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >> >> > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. 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Best, Alain On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear NCSG-EC Members: > > The NCSG-EC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 17 October at 13:00 in > Toronto. > > I've been in touch with Glen, who is working on finding a meeting room for > us and also on setting-up remote participation. But she is not sure we can > get the telephone bridge and the recording this close to the meeting. > I'll pass along the meeting room and other details as soon as I've got them. > > Since all NCSG meetings are always open to observers from the NCSG > membership, of course Klaus is welcome to observe this NCSG-EC meeting. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear Robin. > > Thanks. I'm available at all the mentioned slots. I see that we have > mostly membership issues on the agenda. I hope Klaus will be able to join > the meeting as an observer in his capacity as NPOC's Membership Committee > Chair and that NCSG-EC members will be in agreement with his ex-officio > participation. > > Best, Alain > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear EC members: >> >> Below is a draft discussion agenda for our NCSG Executive Committee >> meeting in Toronto. >> >> Also below are proposed times to hold this EC meeting. We can't do it on >> the weekend because of GNSO Council meetings happening all day that several >> of us will be in, so we have to select a time from within the regular ICANN >> meeting Monday-Thursday. >> >> Those of us who are demanding this meeting cannot also be unavailable for >> it during the official ICANN week, so we will choose from the following >> times, depending on what works for most EC members. I'd be glad to set up >> a doodle poll if needed, but hopefully we can get this scheduled via email >> in the next day. Please choose from the following times for the EC meeting: >> Monday 15 October 17:00 >> Tuesday 16 October (during NCSG mtg 14:00) >> Wednesday 17 October 13:00 >> Thursday 18 October 13:00 >> >> Thank you, >> Robin >> >> NCSG Executive Committee Meeting >> Draft Discussion Agenda >> >> 1. NCSG Membership Issues >> a. Process for joining NCSG >> b. Eligibility issues >> c. Online application issues >> d. Pending applications discussion >> >> 2. Status of Jim Bikoff Complaint to Ombudsman >> >> 3. Reminder: All NCSG-EC terms end with the conclusion of annual >> meeting in Toronto and constituencies should each appoint their 2 >> replacement representatives to the NCSG-EC asap. >> >> AOB >> >> >> >> >> IP JUSTICE >> Robin Gross, Executive Director >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EC-NCSG mailing list >> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >> >> > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le > destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au > destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement > interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le > reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou > si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer > sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use > of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone > other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for > forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, > distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or > in part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this > e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and > destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de votre coop?ration. CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in part. 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Alain On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear All, > > Thanks noted... we may have a few more NPOC observers... > > Best, Alain > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear NCSG-EC Members: >> >> The NCSG-EC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 17 October at 13:00 in >> Toronto. >> >> I've been in touch with Glen, who is working on finding a meeting room >> for us and also on setting-up remote participation. But she is not sure we >> can get the telephone bridge and the recording this close to the meeting. >> I'll pass along the meeting room and other details as soon as I've got them. >> >> Since all NCSG meetings are always open to observers from the NCSG >> membership, of course Klaus is welcome to observe this NCSG-EC meeting. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: >> >> Dear Robin. >> >> Thanks. I'm available at all the mentioned slots. I see that we have >> mostly membership issues on the agenda. I hope Klaus will be able to join >> the meeting as an observer in his capacity as NPOC's Membership Committee >> Chair and that NCSG-EC members will be in agreement with his ex-officio >> participation. >> >> Best, Alain >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> >>> Dear EC members: >>> >>> Below is a draft discussion agenda for our NCSG Executive Committee >>> meeting in Toronto. >>> >>> Also below are proposed times to hold this EC meeting. We can't do it >>> on the weekend because of GNSO Council meetings happening all day that >>> several of us will be in, so we have to select a time from within the >>> regular ICANN meeting Monday-Thursday. >>> >>> Those of us who are demanding this meeting cannot also be unavailable >>> for it during the official ICANN week, so we will choose from the following >>> times, depending on what works for most EC members. I'd be glad to set up >>> a doodle poll if needed, but hopefully we can get this scheduled via email >>> in the next day. Please choose from the following times for the EC meeting: >>> Monday 15 October 17:00 >>> Tuesday 16 October (during NCSG mtg 14:00) >>> Wednesday 17 October 13:00 >>> Thursday 18 October 13:00 >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Robin >>> >>> NCSG Executive Committee Meeting >>> Draft Discussion Agenda >>> >>> 1. NCSG Membership Issues >>> a. Process for joining NCSG >>> b. Eligibility issues >>> c. Online application issues >>> d. Pending applications discussion >>> >>> 2. Status of Jim Bikoff Complaint to Ombudsman >>> >>> 3. Reminder: All NCSG-EC terms end with the conclusion of annual >>> meeting in Toronto and constituencies should each appoint their 2 >>> replacement representatives to the NCSG-EC asap. >>> >>> AOB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> IP JUSTICE >>> Robin Gross, Executive Director >>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EC-NCSG mailing list >>> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger >> >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >> ci-dessus. 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Talk to you soon, Best regards, Alain On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Danilo wrote: > Dear Sirs,**** > > ** ** > > Please find enclosed the NPOC membership form and document evidencing that > Fondazione Rosselli Americas is recognized as a not-for-profit or > nongovernmental organization in the jurisdiction of Alexandria, VA, USA.** > ** > > ** ** > > Best**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > [image: signature]**** > > * * > > *Danilo Piaggesi* > > Managing Director**** > > FONDAZIONE ROSSELLI AMERICAS (FRA)**** > > Director **** > > IKEP (International Knowledge Economy Program)**** > > 6005 Grove Dr. Alexandria, VA 22307, USA **** > > danilo.piaggesi at fondazionerosselli.it 'danilo.piaggesi at fondazionerosselli.it');>**** > > ikep.fra01 at gmail.com * > *** > > danilopiaggesi4456 at gmail.com 'danilopiaggesi4456 at gmail.com');>**** > > +12023511149; +13012333095**** > > http://www.fondazionerosselli.it**** > > Skype id:danilop4456**** > > Palazzo Corsini-via della Lungara 10 ? 00165, Rome, ITALY**** > > corso Giulio Cesare, 4bis ? 10152 , Torino, ITALY**** > > **** > > *ICT4DEVIS* > Information and Communication Technologies for Development International > School > *A bridge between technology and development* > *2012 Edition*: 3-8 September, Como, Italy**** > > http://ksm.dicom.uninsubria.it/ict4devis/**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Alain ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Eduardo Monge* Date: Monday, October 15, 2012 Subject: ISOC Trinidad and Tobago Chapter becomes member of NPOC To: Alain Berranger , Klaus Stoll < klaus.stoll at gkpfoundation.org> Cc: Andrei Barburas Alain,**** ** ** Apparently not.**** ** ** **? **We list ISOC-TT as a pending application on our web site Members List (last updated August 3, 2012)******? **ISOC-TT is not on the most recent list of NCSG members (Members List Current NCSG Members List (6 August 2012) ******? **I have not seen any recent reference in your emails to ISOC-TT as an applicant being under consideration for approval before de NCSG-EC******? **I do have a copy of an email dated May 7, 2012 that makes reference to this application ? ****** **** **As you recommended, you should add this to the discussion at the NCSG-EC****** ** ** **Eduardo****** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *De:* Alain Berranger [mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com ] *Enviado el:* domingo, 14 de octubre de 2012 16:10 *Para:* Klaus Stoll *CC:* Eduardo Monge; Andrei Barburas *Asunto:* Fwd: ISOC Trinidad and Tobago Chapter becomes member of NPOC**** ** ** Has ISOC-TT actually been approved by NCSG-EC? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Cintra Sooknanan* Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012 Subject: ISOC Trinidad and Tobago Chapter becomes member of NPOC To: Alain Berranger Cc: Andrei Barburas , "gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org" , Eduardo Monge , Niran Beharry Dear Alain, **** ** ** Thank you very much for your follow up. **** ** ** Please could you or Eduardo forward me any announcement that was made on the NPOC mailing list or webiste on ISOC-TT's admission? It would be our pleasure to post this on our website.**** ** ** Regards**** ** ** Cintra Sooknanan**** On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:**** Dear Cintra,**** ** ** Thanks. It was nice catching up with you at the NCUC conference.**** ** ** Andrei and/or GNSO Secretariat will ensure that Niran, you and Tracy are added to NPOC-Voice email list soonest. My apologies for this not having been done before.**** ** ** See you soon again in T.O.**** ** ** Cheers, Alain**** ** ** On Friday, October 12, 2012, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:**** Hi Alain **** ** ** I am at the NCUC Policy Conference today, thought I would see you here.**** ** ** Please see my email below for your very kind attention and follow up. **** ** ** Look forward to seeing you very soon. **** ** ** Regards**** ** ** Cintra Sooknanan**** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Cintra Sooknanan* Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM Subject: Re: ISOC Trinidad and Tobago Chapter becomes member of NPOC To: Eduardo Monge Cc: "Tracy F. Hackshaw" , Niran Beharry < NBEHARRYTT at gmail.com> **** *The Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter (ISOC-TT)* is located in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago. ISOCTT serves the needs of any specific, cohesive community of interest and the local Internet community in the context of Internet evolution. It has a particular focus on education, Internet infrastructure development, Internet standards and experimentation, public -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en partie . 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URL: From robin Tue Oct 16 22:07:20 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:07:20 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: us-ignite membership application to join NCSG References: Message-ID: <5CB642C0-3EFE-4671-A9BA-D2CDD5D27601@ipjustice.org> Dear NCSG-EC Members: US-Ignite has asked for re-consideration of its NCSG membership application. Please see below. Thanks, Robin Begin forwarded message: > From: Glenn Ricart > Date: October 16, 2012 7:16:39 AM PDT > To: Robin Gross > Subject: Re: us-ignite membership application to join NCSG > Reply-To: GRicart at gmail.com > > Robin - > > Your unnamed members of the Executive Committee are incorrect on > both points. > > 1. The US Ignite non-profit has no formal or governance > connections to the US Government. The confusion is due to the fact > that the US Government has a parallel US Ignite Initiative which > coordinates activities of US Federal Agencies in support of similar > objectives. The US Ignite non-profit which I represent is a > membership organization including 26 community members and 16 > corporate members which works toward next-generation Internet > applications. The US Ignite non-profit has received US Internal > Revenue Service 501(c)(3) tax exemption. > > 2. It is very much in operation, and has been for 18 months. I > have been a formal employee since January 1, 2012, and we now have > five full-time period and 2 part-time people on board. The web > site at www.us-ignite.org is quite active and updated regularly. > If you subscribe to @US_Ignite, you will find a regular stream of > tweets. I invite you to watch a nationwide music collaboration as > part of the Chattanooga Riverfest and which includes a shout-out to > US Ignite. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGeppaEX3Uc&feature=youtu.be > > Although I appreciate the need for a gatekeeper function, I think > you have mis-judged a worthy non-commercial organization, and > request reconsideration for membership forthwith. > > .... Glenn > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear Glen, > > The NCSG Executive Committee did not accept the membership of US > Ignite because several members questioned its relationship to > government and whether or not the organization was currently in > operation. If you believe this determination was made in error, > please feel free to send any follow-up information so I may forward > it to the NCSG Executive Committee for their re-consideration. > > Thank you for your interest in joining NCSG. > > All best, > Robin Gross > NCSG Chair > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Wed Oct 17 00:11:22 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:11:22 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: us-ignite membership application to join NCSG In-Reply-To: <5CB642C0-3EFE-4671-A9BA-D2CDD5D27601@ipjustice.org> References: <5CB642C0-3EFE-4671-A9BA-D2CDD5D27601@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I do not recall having been consulted on the first decision to deny membership. In any case, I have now completed my due diligence on this organization and am in favor of accepting their application for NCSG and NPOC memberships. In confidence, you will probably not receive an evaluation from Lori, as she has just announced her resignation from her position of Vice-chair of NPOC for personal reasons. I will speak to each one of you in person about this. We need to speed up the membership approval process. It looks like I am the only one to have completed the last 9 applications we had to consider. But, maybe I missed something. We will talk more about this tomorrow. Best, Alain On Tuesday, October 16, 2012, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear NCSG-EC Members: > > US-Ignite has asked for re-consideration of its NCSG membership > application. Please see below. > > Thanks, > Robin > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Glenn Ricart 'gricart at gmail.com');>> > *Date: *October 16, 2012 7:16:39 AM PDT > *To: *Robin Gross 'robin at ipjustice.org');>> > *Subject: **Re: us-ignite membership application to join NCSG* > *Reply-To: *GRicart at gmail.com 'GRicart at gmail.com');> > > Robin - > > Your unnamed members of the Executive Committee are incorrect on both > points. > > 1. The US Ignite non-profit has no formal or governance connections to > the US Government. The confusion is due to the fact that the US Government > has a parallel US Ignite Initiative which coordinates activities of US > Federal Agencies in support of similar objectives. The US Ignite > non-profit which I represent is a membership organization including 26 > community members and 16 corporate members which works toward > next-generation Internet applications. The US Ignite non-profit has > received US Internal Revenue Service 501(c)(3) tax exemption. > > 2. It is very much in operation, and has been for 18 months. I have been > a formal employee since January 1, 2012, and we now have five full-time > period and 2 part-time people on board. The web site at www.us-ignite.orgis quite active and updated regularly. If you subscribe to @US_Ignite, you > will find a regular stream of tweets. I invite you to watch a nationwide > music collaboration as part of the Chattanooga Riverfest and which includes > a shout-out to US Ignite. > > T-Bone Burnett & Chuck Mead "The Wild Side Of Life" > > Although I appreciate the need for a gatekeeper function, I think you have > mis-judged a worthy non-commercial organization, and request > reconsideration for membership forthwith. > > .... Glenn > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Robin Gross > > wrote: > >> Dear Glen, >> >> The NCSG Executive Committee did not accept the membership of US Ignite >> because several members questioned its relationship to government and >> whether or not the organization was currently in operation. If you believe >> this determination was made in error, please feel free to send any >> follow-up information so I may forward it to the NCSG Executive Committee >> for their re-consideration. >> >> Thank you for your interest in joining NCSG. >> >> All best, >> Robin Gross >> NCSG Chair > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org 'cvml', 'robin at ipjustice.org');> > > > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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URL: From robin Mon Oct 29 00:09:58 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:09:58 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments Message-ID: Dear EC Members: We need to complete forthwith the due diligence and evaluation for the following 23 pending NCSG membership applications (10 are for organizational members, including a reconsideration from US-Ignite, and 13 applications for individual membership to NCSG). In an attempt to clarify which applications are presently before us and what their individual status is, I've listed them below. Please use the below list as our immediate "to-do" list to evaluate, and use it in conjunction with the complete membership application data submitted by the applicant and provided in the Google docs data file for membership applications. I've done my due diligence for the 23 applications below and include my vote / comment on each application. Alain has evaluated a couple of the organizational applications also and his votes are recorded below also. We need to replace the "..." blank spaces below with votes/comments from each voting member of the NCSG-EC on each application. Please complete your due diligence and provide your vote/comment within the next couple of days so we can get back to these applicants as soon as possible. Thank you, Robin PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS ORGANIZATIONS: 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations Alain Berranger voted to approve. Rafik Damak ..... Robin Gross voted to approve. Milton Mueller ..... 2. British Red Cross Alain Berranger voted to approve. Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from organization. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement Alain Berranger voted to approve. Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties of organization. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan Robin Gross voted to approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 5. REPAOC Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 6. Sorites Dot Biz Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 9. Movimento Mega Nao Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger voted to Approve. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... INDIVIDUALS: 1. Benjamin Farrand Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 2. Edamwen Anthony Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 3. Niel Harper Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 4. Stefania Milan Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 5. Staffon Jonson Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 6. Denise Brunsdon Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 7. Walusungu Gondwe Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 8. Tobias Mahler Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 9. John Border Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 10. Sarah Clayton Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 11. Anton Permadi Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 12. Olga Korotvova Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... 13. Anthony Nweke Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... ---- END ---- IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mueller Mon Oct 29 17:51:50 2012 From: mueller (Milton L Mueller) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:51:50 +0000 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS ORGANIZATIONS: 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations Alain Berranger voted to approve. Rafik Damak ..... Robin Gross voted to approve. Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 2. British Red Cross Alain Berranger voted to approve. Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from organization. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....same as Robin 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement Alain Berranger voted to approve. Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties of organization. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However, they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit, advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification programs for profit, or run on advertising? 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan Robin Gross voted to approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 5. REPAOC Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa 6. Sorites Dot Biz Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can find no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered under a commercial domain (.biz) 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem. 9. Movimento Mega Nao Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger voted to Approve. Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE INDIVIDUALS: 1. Benjamin Farrand<%20http:/digitaldiscontent.com> Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 2. Edamwen Anthony Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the application? 3. Niel Harper Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied doesn't work 4. Stefania Milan Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 5. Staffon Jonson Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the application? 6. Denise Brunsdon Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link? 7. Walusungu Gondwe Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 8. Tobias Mahler Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 9. John Border Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....need more information 10. Sarah Clayton Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....need more information 11. Anton Permadi Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPOVE 12. Olga Korotvova Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE 13. Anthony Nweke Robin Gross votes to Approve. Alain Beranger ..... Rafik Damak ..... Milton Mueller .....APPROVE ---- END ---- IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Mon Oct 29 18:53:08 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:53:08 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Dear all, I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link in Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin for an alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I can access the applications. Thks in advance Alain PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected where necessary... On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS***** > > > *ORGANIZATIONS:***** > > ** ** > > *1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > ***** > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Robin Gross voted to approve.**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *2. British Red Cross ***** > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** > > ** ** > > Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or > chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial > civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from > organization.**** > > ** ** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....same as Robin**** > > ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for > clarification** > > ** ** > > *3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > ***** > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** > > ** ** > > Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is > in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : > Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial > organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties > of organization.**** > > ** ** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an > inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the > certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However, > they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit, > advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you > vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification > programs for profit, or run on advertising? > Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of NCSG. I will raise your concerns... > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *4. Bytes for All, Pakistan* **** > > Robin Gross voted to approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but > there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit > as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not for profit status is > confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *5. REPAOC ***** > > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions > about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure recruited > this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC. Robin, you may > know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with Marie-laure et al ** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *6. Sorites Dot Biz* * ***** > > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions > about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... REJECT**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can find > no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered under > a commercial domain (.biz)**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas* **** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this > applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his > time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank.** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International* > **** > > Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. Not > clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi > referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well > before we decide which way to go** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia > Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies > for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted > to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem. **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *9. Movimento Mega Nao* **** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* **** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto that > NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *INDIVIDUALS:***** > > ** ** > > *1. Benjamin Farrand***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *2. Edamwen Anthony* **** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the > application? **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *3. Niel Harper ***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied > doesn?t work**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *4. Stefania Milan ***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *5. Staffon Jonson ***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the > application? **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *6. Denise Brunsdon ***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know Denise > Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *7. Walusungu Gondwe***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *8. Tobias Mahler***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger .....need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *9. John Border***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....need more information**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *10. Sarah Clayton***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....need more information**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *11. Anton Permadi ***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPOVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *12. Olga Korotvova***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *13. Anthony Nweke***** > > Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** > > Rafik Damak .....**** > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ---- END ----**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > IP JUSTICE**** > > Robin Gross, Executive Director**** > > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA**** > > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451**** > > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Some of the domain names provided by individuals routed to "odd" websites, but that is what was supplied by the applicant in the membership application, so that is why it is the link provided below. You should be viewing the complete applications, with all of the data supplied by the applicant in the above data file. I hope that clears it up. Thanks, Robin On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > > > PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS > > ORGANIZATIONS: > > 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 2. British Red Cross > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of > (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent > noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry and > clarification from organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....same as Robin > > > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its > website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of > the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is > mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further > information and input on commercial ties of organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I > have an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come > from the certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong > there. However, they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and > Alison.com is a for-profit, advertising supported entity that > offers free learning. Alain, can you vouch that they are nonprofit, > or do they sell these training certification programs for profit, > or run on advertising? > > > 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 5. REPAOC > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French > language. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa > > > 6. Sorites Dot Biz > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no > content. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can > find no information anywhere about this organization, and it is > registered under a commercial domain (.biz) > > > 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International > Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 > sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need > further inquiry. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia > Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it > qualifies for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, > but if she wanted to join NCSG as an individual member I would see > no problem. > > > 9. Movimento Mega Nao > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger voted to Approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > INDIVIDUALS: > > 1. Benjamin Farrand > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 2. Edamwen Anthony > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the > application? > > > 3. Niel Harper > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied > doesn?t work > > > 4. Stefania Milan > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 5. Staffon Jonson > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see > the application? > > > 6. Denise Brunsdon > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know > Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link? > > > 7. Walusungu Gondwe > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 8. Tobias Mahler > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 9. John Border > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....need more information > > > 10. Sarah Clayton > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....need more information > > > 11. Anton Permadi > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPOVE > > > 12. Olga Korotvova > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > 13. Anthony Nweke > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > ---- END ---- > > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Mon Oct 29 18:59:12 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:59:12 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <6F193469-0272-4B3F-9AF5-8969217D81CA@ipjustice.org> Alain, I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to NCSG membership. Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that happens after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done by the individual constituencies. So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an NCSG activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies this task. Thanks, Robin On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear all, > > I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link > in Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin > for an alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I > can access the applications. Thks in advance > > Alain > > PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected > where necessary... > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller > wrote: > > > > > > > PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS > > > ORGANIZATIONS: > > > > 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Robin Gross voted to approve. > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 2. British Red Cross > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. > > > > Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of > (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent > noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry and > clarification from organization. > > > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....same as Robin > > Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for > clarification > > > > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > > Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. > > > > Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its > website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of > the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is > mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further > information and input on commercial ties of organization. > > > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I > have an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come > from the certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong > there. However, they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and > Alison.com is a for-profit, advertising supported entity that > offers free learning. Alain, can you vouch that they are nonprofit, > or do they sell these training certification programs for profit, > or run on advertising? > > Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior > Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the > side (A bit like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). > He is a volunteer on NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of > facilitating the recruiting NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he > understands wlll the NFP criteria of NCSG. I will raise your > concerns... > > > > > > 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan > > Robin Gross voted to approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity > but there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an > NCUC recruit as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not > for profit status is confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 5. REPAOC > > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French > language. > > Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure > recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of > REPAOC. Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB > with Marie-laure et al > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa > > > > > > 6. Sorites Dot Biz > > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no > content. > > Alain Berranger ..... REJECT > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can > find no information anywhere about this organization, and it is > registered under a commercial domain (.biz) > > > > > > 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this > applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend > from his time with the Italian government and the Interamerican > Development Bank. > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International > > Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 > sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need > further inquiry. > > Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi > referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence > particularely well before we decide which way to go > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia > Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it > qualifies for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, > but if she wanted to join NCSG as an individual member I would see > no problem. > > > > > > 9. Movimento Mega Nao > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in > Toronto that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > INDIVIDUALS: > > > > 1. Benjamin Farrand > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 2. Edamwen Anthony > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the > application? > > > > > > 3. Niel Harper > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied > doesn?t work > > > > > > 4. Stefania Milan > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 5. Staffon Jonson > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see > the application? > > > > > > 6. Denise Brunsdon > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know > Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link? > > > > > > 7. Walusungu Gondwe > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 8. Tobias Mahler > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger .....need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 9. John Border > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....need more information > > > > > > 10. Sarah Clayton > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....need more information > > > > > > 11. Anton Permadi > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPOVE > > > > > > 12. Olga Korotvova > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > 13. Anthony Nweke > > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > > Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application > > Rafik Damak ..... > > Milton Mueller .....APPROVE > > > > > > ---- END ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > > Robin Gross, Executive Director > > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du > destinataire ci-dessus. 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Are you assuming there is a consensus on the process? this is not the case... we progressed a bit in Toronto, but did not finish our discussions; we certainly discussed but did not agree to this 2 step approach... We decided the NCSG membership application template needs to be redesigned and NPOC and NCUC must come to an agreement. We at NPOC recruit for NPOC - this is clear - and the NCSG process is a first hoop we have to jump through because of the charter... we comply to the letter, but not great spirit in doing it..., I assure you. I was starting to be comfortable that NPOC could thrive inside NCSG, but now I have my doubts with your remark. To go forward, let's make sure the fragile relationship we are building is maintained and not jump to the conclusion that NPOC will do whatever the NCSG establishment wishes... Please, I am mostly interested in growing the NPOC Constituency... can this please make sure this happens in NCSG as we now stand? Please cut us some slack!... Thanks for your understanding! Alain On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Alain, > > I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". > > We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to NCSG > membership. > > Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that happens > after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done by the individual > constituencies. > > So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an NCSG > activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies this task. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link in > Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin for an > alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I can access the > applications. Thks in advance > > Alain > > PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected where > necessary... > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS***** >> >> >> *ORGANIZATIONS:***** >> >> ** ** >> >> *1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >> ***** >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *2. British Red Cross ***** >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or >> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial >> civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from >> organization.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin**** >> >> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for >> clarification** >> >> ** ** >> >> *3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >> ***** >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is >> in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : >> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial >> organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties >> of organization.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an >> inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the >> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However, >> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit, >> advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you >> vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification >> programs for profit, or run on advertising? >> > Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior > Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit > like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on > NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting > NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of > NCSG. I will raise your concerns... > >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *4. Bytes for All, Pakistan* **** >> >> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but >> there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit >> as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not for profit status is >> confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *5. REPAOC ***** >> >> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >> about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure recruited >> this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC. Robin, you may >> know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with Marie-laure et al ** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *6. Sorites Dot Biz* * ***** >> >> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >> about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can find >> no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered under >> a commercial domain (.biz)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas* **** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this >> applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his >> time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank.* >> * >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International* >> **** >> >> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. Not >> clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi >> referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well >> before we decide which way to go** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia >> Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies >> for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted >> to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *9. Movimento Mega Nao* **** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* **** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto >> that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *INDIVIDUALS:***** >> >> ** ** >> >> *1. Benjamin Farrand***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *2. Edamwen Anthony* **** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >> application? **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *3. Niel Harper ***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied >> doesn?t work**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *4. Stefania Milan ***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *5. Staffon Jonson ***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >> application? **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *6. Denise Brunsdon ***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know Denise >> Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *7. Walusungu Gondwe***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *8. Tobias Mahler***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *9. John Border***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *10. Sarah Clayton***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *11. Anton Permadi ***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *12. Olga Korotvova***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *13. Anthony Nweke***** >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >> >> Rafik Damak .....**** >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ---- END ----**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> IP JUSTICE**** >> >> Robin Gross, Executive Director**** >> >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA**** >> >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451**** >> >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EC-NCSG mailing list >> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >> >> > > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger > > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? > Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire > ci-dessus. 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So joining NPOC first is backwards and has led to a lot of confusion from NPOC applicants who thought they were automatically members of NCSG simply by joining NPOC. I'm very excited to see you have been appointed NPOC-VC and glad you wish to become more engaged. Now that there is a membership application submitted for your organization, it should not take much time to approve it and welcome ISOC-TT into the NCSG. On the issue of your possible appointment to NCSG-EC, Alain told me last week you were not appointed to NCSG-EC, so there seems to be some confusion about that (I'll forward that email to you separately). Hopefully we can clear this all up in the next few days and I'm glad for the opportunity to be working more closely with you in the coming months. Please let me know if you have any further questions on this or need any further clarification. Thanks again! Robin On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: > Hi Robin > > Perhaps, there was a hiccup with the ISOC-TT Application to NCSG, > to be sure I have filled out https://community.icann.org/display/ > gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application for review. > > I have not had any reply from you regarding my email below, but in > the interim could you please ensure that I am added to the NCSG > mailing list and the NCSG Executive Mailing list (as the NPOC > representative in place of Lori). > > Looking forward to your early feedback on these matters. I am happy > to respond to any questions or comments you may have. > > Regards > > Cintra Sooknanan > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Cintra Sooknanan > wrote: > Dear Robin, > > Hope you had a very comfortable return from the ICANN Toronto meeting. > > Please see the email below. Is there any reason I can not be added > to the NCSG mailing list? Who should we request this addition to, > if Glen is not the administrator of this list? > > Thanks for your guidance, > > Cintra Sooknanan > Chair > Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Glen de Saint G?ry > Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM > Subject: RE: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list > To: Cintra Sooknanan > Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" > > > Dear Cintra, > > > > this has been done for the NPOC list, but I do not administer the > NCSG mailing list. > > > > Thank you. > > Kind regards, > > > > Gmen > > > > Glen de Saint G?ry > > GNSO Secretariat > > gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org > > http://gnso.icann.org > > > > From: Cintra Sooknanan [mailto:cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com] > Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 22:42 > > > To: Glen de Saint G?ry > Cc: Eduardo Monge; Niran Beharry; Tracy F. Hackshaw; Alain Berranger > Subject: Re: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list > > > > Dear Glen, > > > > Please note that I am the primary representative for ISOC-TT on > NPOC and Mr. Niran Beharry is the secondary. Both Niran Beharry and > Tracy Hackshaw should be added to the NPOC Voice and NCSG Mailing > list as observers of ISOC-TT. > > > > Thank you for your prompt assistance in fulfilling this request. > > > > Regards > > > > Cintra Sooknanan > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Eduardo Monge > wrote: > > Dear Glenn, > > > > I would like to request that Cintra Sooknanan of the Trinidad & > Tobago ISOC Chapter, recently appointed NPOC?s acting Vice-Chair, > be added to the NPOC-Executive Committee mailing list at http:// > forum.icann.org/lists/npoc/ > > Her email address is cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com > > Regards, > > Eduardo Monge > NPOC Communications Committee Chair > > > > > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Mon Oct 29 23:13:32 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:13:32 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice-Chair of NPOC References: Message-ID: Dear Cintra, It appears from the below email from Alain that NPOC has not appointed you to the NCSG-EC. He said that would be a separate appointment after he did some consultations. So there seems to be some confusion as to just what role you have been appointed by NPOC. The Vice-Chair of NPOC is not necessarily the NPOC representative on the NCSG-EC. It is very important for NPOC to clarify what these roles entail and what is the process for making their appointments. The process should be open and transparent and accountable to the membership, so these matters should be clearly explained as soon as possible. Thanks, Robin Begin forwarded message: > From: Alain Berranger > Date: October 24, 2012 12:11:40 PM PDT > To: Robin Gross > Subject: Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice- > Chair of NPOC > > Hi Robin, > > Thanks for your kind words. > > Cintra's appointment is interim until we can have elections. > > The NPOC rep on NCSG EC will be separate and interim too until > elections. I will advise soonest I have done all the necessary > consultations. > > I will shortly write to you separately on following up on NCSG-EC > business as per our Toronto meeting. > > Cheers, Alain > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Hello Alain, > > Good to see you in Toronto. We make great progress there! > > In addition to NPOC VP, will Cintra also replace Lori as NPOC > representative on the NCSG Executive Committee? Or will that be a > separate appointment? > > Thanks, > Robin > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Cintra Sooknanan >> Date: October 24, 2012 11:52:05 AM PDT >> Cc: npoc-voice at icann.org, Glen de Saint Gery , >> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org, Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond >> , Lori Schulman , >> npoc at icann.org, "Tracy F. Hackshaw" , >> Robin Gross , marie-laure Lemineur >> , Poncelet Ileleji , >> mandy.carver at icann.org, Robert Hoggarth >> , Evan Leibovitch >> , Alain Berranger >> , Maria Farrell >> Subject: Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice- >> Chair of NPOC >> >> Dear All, >> >> Thank you very much for your warm salutations and reception, it is >> my pleasure to serve in this role. >> >> Many of you are aware that my engagement with ICANN has been >> directly aligned with NCSG's Charter in voicing and representing >> non-profit, non-commercial interests and Internet users. To this >> common end, I look forward to our working together and mutual >> support. >> >> Best regards >> >> Cintra Sooknanan >> Chair >> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Alain Berranger >> wrote: >> Dear NPOC Colleagues, >> >> Following the recently announced resignation of Lori Schulman for >> personal reasons, and until the NPOC election replacement process >> is duly completed, an interim Vice-Chair is being appointed. After >> comprehensive fast track consultations in Toronto, I have >> appointed Ms. Cintra Sooknanan of the Trinidad & Tobago ISOC >> Chapter to that position. >> >> I am very pleased to welcome Cintra to the Executive Committee of >> NPOC. Cintra has been active in both NPOC and At Large and her >> experience will be important to her new role in NPOC. >> >> I am grateful to Cintra, as well as to Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond and >> Tracy Hackshaw for their collaboration and support in making this >> interim appointment possible. >> >> Cintra will take up her new role and responsibilities effective >> immediately. Her first responsibility will be to join forces with >> Marie-laure and Poncelet in delivering the NPOC Side Session at >> IGF 2012 in Baku in a couple of weeks. Thereafter. he will second >> me as needed with regular NPOC duties and with special assignments >> as tasked from time to time. >> >> Mandy, as requested in Toronto during the Internet Governance >> Landscape Session, I am please to advise you that NPOC will now >> have 3 representatives in Baku: Marie-laure Lemineur from Costa >> Rica, Poncelet Ileleji from The Gambia and Cintra Sooknanan from >> Trinidad and Tobago. >> >> Please join me in wishing Cintra all the success needed! >> >> Best regards, Alain >> >> >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >> www.gkpfoundation.org >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger >> >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du >> destinataire ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Mon Oct 29 23:23:45 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:23:45 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <6F193469-0272-4B3F-9AF5-8969217D81CA@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Alain, Please do not get offended. I am sincerely asking for clarification because we have a misunderstanding as to what is said and what it means. I'm simply trying to clarify that this is an NCSG-EC activity - reviewing and approving NCSG membership applications, as per the NCSG Charter. This NCSG-EC is not approving NPOC memberships - that is up to NPOC to do according to its own procedures. That is all I am saying and hope you are hearing. Thank you, Robin On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Robin, > > It means what it says. It is as clear as canadian glacier water!... > > Are you assuming there is a consensus on the process? this is not > the case... we progressed a bit in Toronto, but did not finish our > discussions; we certainly discussed but did not agree to this 2 > step approach... We decided the NCSG membership application > template needs to be redesigned and NPOC and NCUC must come to an > agreement. > > We at NPOC recruit for NPOC - this is clear - and the NCSG process > is a first hoop we have to jump through because of the charter... > we comply to the letter, but not great spirit in doing it..., I > assure you. I was starting to be comfortable that NPOC could thrive > inside NCSG, but now I have my doubts with your remark. > > To go forward, let's make sure the fragile relationship we are > building is maintained and not jump to the conclusion that NPOC > will do whatever the NCSG establishment wishes... > > Please, I am mostly interested in growing the NPOC Constituency... > can this please make sure this happens in NCSG as we now stand? > Please cut us some slack!... > > Thanks for your understanding! > > Alain > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Alain, > > I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". > > We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to > NCSG membership. > > Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that > happens after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done by > the individual constituencies. > > So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an > NCSG activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies > this task. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs >> link in Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked >> Robin for an alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon >> as I can access the applications. Thks in advance >> >> Alain >> >> PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected >> where necessary... >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS >> >> >> ORGANIZATIONS: >> >> >> >> 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Robin Gross voted to approve. >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. British Red Cross >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. >> >> >> >> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part >> of (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent >> noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry >> and clarification from organization. >> >> >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin >> >> Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask >> for clarification >> >> >> >> 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >> >> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. >> >> >> >> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its >> website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of >> the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is >> mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further >> information and input on commercial ties of organization. >> >> >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I >> have an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come >> from the certification programs they run, so there is nothing >> wrong there. However, they mention that Alison.com is a partner, >> and Alison.com is a for-profit, advertising supported entity that >> offers free learning. Alain, can you vouch that they are >> nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification programs >> for profit, or run on advertising? >> >> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior >> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the >> side (A bit like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). >> He is a volunteer on NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of >> facilitating the recruiting NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he >> understands wlll the NFP criteria of NCSG. I will raise your >> concerns... >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan >> >> Robin Gross voted to approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity >> but there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an >> NCUC recruit as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not >> for profit status is confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 5. REPAOC >> >> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer >> questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French >> language. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure >> recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of >> REPAOC. Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB >> with Marie-laure et al >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa >> >> >> >> >> >> 6. Sorites Dot Biz >> >> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer >> questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no >> content. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I >> can find no information anywhere about this organization, and it >> is registered under a commercial domain (.biz) >> >> >> >> >> >> 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited >> this applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time >> friend from his time with the Italian government and the >> Interamerican Development Bank. >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International >> >> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 >> sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need >> further inquiry. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and >> Fadi referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence >> particularely well before we decide which way to go >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, >> Julia Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure >> it qualifies for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational >> activities, but if she wanted to join NCSG as an individual member >> I would see no problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> 9. Movimento Mega Nao >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in >> Toronto that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> INDIVIDUALS: >> >> >> >> 1. Benjamin Farrand >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. Edamwen Anthony >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >> application? >> >> >> >> >> >> 3. Niel Harper >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were >> supplied doesn?t work >> >> >> >> >> >> 4. Stefania Milan >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 5. Staffon Jonson >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see >> the application? >> >> >> >> >> >> 6. Denise Brunsdon >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know >> Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link? >> >> >> >> >> >> 7. Walusungu Gondwe >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 8. Tobias Mahler >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 9. John Border >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....need more information >> >> >> >> >> >> 10. Sarah Clayton >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....need more information >> >> >> >> >> >> 11. Anton Permadi >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 12. Olga Korotvova >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> 13. Anthony Nweke >> >> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >> >> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >> >> Rafik Damak ..... >> >> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- END ---- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> IP JUSTICE >> >> Robin Gross, Executive Director >> >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >> >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >> >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EC-NCSG mailing list >> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >> www.gkpfoundation.org >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger >> >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du >> destinataire ci-dessus. 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Toute personne qui lit le pr?sent message > sans en ?tre le destinataire, ou l?employ?(e) ou la personne > responsable de le remettre au destinataire, est par les pr?sentes > avis?e qu?il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le > distribuer, de le modifier ou de le reproduire, en tout ou en > partie . Si le destinataire ne peut ?tre joint ou si ce document > vous a ?t? communiqu? par erreur, veuillez nous en informer sur le > champ et d?truire ce courriel et toute copie de celui-ci. Merci de > votre coop?ration. > > CONFIDENTIALITY MESSAGE > This e-mail message is confidential and is intended for the > exclusive use of the addressee. Please note that, should this > message be read by anyone other than the addressee, his or her > employee or the person responsible for forwarding it to the > addressee, it is strictly prohibited to disclose, distribute, > modify or reproduce the contents of this message, in whole or in > part. If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Mon Oct 29 23:29:48 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:29:48 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C4DDFEC-25E5-47BC-8122-CB443B44F34A@ipjustice.org> Dear EC Members: We have a new NCSG membership application from ISOC-TT to consider (it is in the google data file with all the other pending applications). But it just came in today and I'd like for it to be considered in the batch that just went out yesterday for decision by the NCSG-EC. So let's please add it here to this email discussion thread and make our decision on it asap. (Apparently the group joined NPOC, but did not apply for NCSG membership until now due to a misunderstanding of the process of joining NCSG first.) For the record, I vote to APPROVE the membership application from ISOC-TT. Milton ..... Alain ..... Rafik ..... How do other NCSG-EC members vote on this application? Thank you, Robin On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > We need to complete forthwith the due diligence and evaluation for > the following 23 pending NCSG membership applications (10 are for > organizational members, including a reconsideration from US-Ignite, > and 13 applications for individual membership to NCSG). > > In an attempt to clarify which applications are presently before us > and what their individual status is, I've listed them below. > Please use the below list as our immediate "to-do" list to > evaluate, and use it in conjunction with the complete membership > application data submitted by the applicant and provided in the > Google docs data file for membership applications. > > I've done my due diligence for the 23 applications below and > include my vote / comment on each application. Alain has evaluated > a couple of the organizational applications also and his votes are > recorded below also. We need to replace the "..." blank spaces > below with votes/comments from each voting member of the NCSG-EC on > each application. Please complete your due diligence and provide > your vote/comment within the next couple of days so we can get back > to these applicants as soon as possible. > > Thank you, > Robin > > PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS > > ORGANIZATIONS: > > 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 2. British Red Cross > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of > (or chartered under) governmental authority and not independent > noncommercial civil society organization. Need further inquiry and > clarification from organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its > website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of > the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is > mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further > information and input on commercial ties of organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 5. REPAOC > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French > language. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 6. Sorites Dot Biz > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer > questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no > content. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International > Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 > sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need > further inquiry. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 9. Movimento Mega Nao > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger voted to Approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > INDIVIDUALS: > > 1. Benjamin Farrand > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 2. Edamwen Anthony > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 3. Niel Harper > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 4. Stefania Milan > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 5. Staffon Jonson > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 6. Denise Brunsdon > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 7. Walusungu Gondwe > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 8. Tobias Mahler > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 9. John Border > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > 10. 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For the NCSG appointment, as Robin says, we need to finish consultations with NPOC membership. It will be concluded at next NPOC monthly call. We thrive to be as transparent as our NCUC colleagues. I copy NCSG-EC for info. Robin, while I have you, it would be transparent. open and accountable if you, as Chair of NCSG, insured that the proceedings of the NCSG-EC meeting in Toronto be published soonest. Please circulate a draft for comments. I assume, as Chair, that you appointed someone to take notes. Thanks. Cintra, thanks for your patience... Alain On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Cintra Sooknanan < cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Alain, > > Apologies, I thought from previous discussion that I would be replacing > Lori on the NCSG Executive Committee. > > Has this been discussed by the NPOC Executive or is it still under > consideration? > > Regards > > Cintra > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear Cintra, >> >> It appears from the below email from Alain that NPOC has not appointed >> you to the NCSG-EC. He said that would be a separate appointment after he >> did some consultations. So there seems to be some confusion as to just >> what role you have been appointed by NPOC. >> >> The Vice-Chair of NPOC is not necessarily the NPOC representative on the >> NCSG-EC. >> >> It is very important for NPOC to clarify what these roles entail and what >> is the process for making their appointments. The process should be open >> and transparent and accountable to the membership, so these matters should >> be clearly explained as soon as possible. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Alain Berranger >> *Date: *October 24, 2012 12:11:40 PM PDT >> *To: *Robin Gross >> *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim >> Vice-Chair of NPOC* >> >> Hi Robin, >> >> Thanks for your kind words. >> >> Cintra's appointment is interim until we can have elections. >> >> The NPOC rep on NCSG EC will be separate and interim too until elections. >> I will advise soonest I have done all the necessary consultations. >> >> I will shortly write to you separately on following up on NCSG-EC >> business as per our Toronto meeting. >> >> Cheers, Alain >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> >>> Hello Alain, >>> >>> Good to see you in Toronto. We make great progress there! >>> >>> In addition to NPOC VP, will Cintra also replace Lori as NPOC >>> representative on the NCSG Executive Committee? Or will that be a >>> separate appointment? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *Cintra Sooknanan >>> *Date: *October 24, 2012 11:52:05 AM PDT >>> *Cc: *npoc-voice at icann.org, Glen de Saint Gery , >>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org, Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond , >>> Lori Schulman , npoc at icann.org, "Tracy F. >>> Hackshaw" , Robin Gross , >>> marie-laure Lemineur , Poncelet Ileleji < >>> pileleji at ymca.gm>, mandy.carver at icann.org, Robert Hoggarth < >>> robert.hoggarth at icann.org>, Evan Leibovitch , >>> Alain Berranger , Maria Farrell < >>> maria.farrell at gmail.com> >>> *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim >>> Vice-Chair of NPOC* >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your warm salutations and reception, it is my >>> pleasure to serve in this role. >>> >>> Many of you are aware that my engagement with ICANN has been directly >>> aligned with NCSG's Charter in voicing and representing non-profit, >>> non-commercial interests and Internet users. To this common end, I look >>> forward to our working together and mutual support. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Cintra Sooknanan >>> Chair >>> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Alain Berranger < >>> alain.berranger at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear NPOC Colleagues, >>>> >>>> Following the recently announced resignation of Lori Schulman for >>>> personal reasons, and until the NPOC election replacement process is duly >>>> completed, an interim Vice-Chair is being appointed. After comprehensive >>>> fast track consultations in Toronto, I have appointed Ms. Cintra Sooknanan >>>> of the Trinidad & Tobago ISOC Chapter to that position. >>>> >>>> I am very pleased to welcome Cintra to the Executive Committee of NPOC. >>>> Cintra has been active in both NPOC and At Large and her experience will >>>> be important to her new role in NPOC. >>>> >>>> I am grateful to Cintra, as well as to Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond and Tracy >>>> Hackshaw for their collaboration and support in making this interim >>>> appointment possible. >>>> >>>> Cintra will take up her new role and responsibilities effective >>>> immediately. Her first responsibility will be to join forces with >>>> Marie-laure and Poncelet in delivering the NPOC Side Session at IGF 2012 in >>>> Baku in a couple of weeks. Thereafter. he will second me as needed with >>>> regular NPOC duties and with special assignments as tasked from time to >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Mandy, as requested in Toronto during the Internet Governance Landscape >>>> Session, I am please to advise you that NPOC will now have 3 >>>> representatives in Baku: Marie-laure Lemineur from Costa Rica, Poncelet >>>> Ileleji from The Gambia and Cintra Sooknanan from Trinidad and Tobago. >>>> >>>> Please join me in wishing Cintra all the success needed! >>>> >>>> Best regards, Alain >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>>> Skype: alain.berranger >>>> >>>> >>>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >>>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >>>> ci-dessus. 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URL: From alain.berranger Tue Oct 30 21:27:34 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:27:34 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice-Chair of NPOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, To repeat what has already been clearly stated: 1) Cintra was appointed as Acting Vice-Chair of NPOC to replace Lori Schulman who resigned for personal reasons (these are confidential and called for quick discretionary decision-making by myself); This was a fast track appointment decided exceptionally by NPOC-EC members in Toronto (Klaus, Marie-Laure, Eduardo and the undersigned, so 4 out of 5 seating EC members as Judy Branzelle was not available for urgent consultations). This decision was made quickly to respond to the needs and request of Lori, again for confidential personal reasons. This was all explained on NPOC-Voice. 2) Given the pace at which NCSG-EC works, the NPOC appointee to NCSG-EC to replace Lori, which is not automatically Cintra but she is not excluded as a candidate, is less urgent and the NPOC membership needs to be fully consulted anyway, as always. This will first be discussed at NPOC's November monthly call with the membership at large and then posted on NPOC-Voice for nominations. I can't think of a process that would be more open, transparent and accountable to the membership. Best regards, Alain On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear Cintra, > > It appears from the below email from Alain that NPOC has not appointed you > to the NCSG-EC. He said that would be a separate appointment after he did > some consultations. So there seems to be some confusion as to just what > role you have been appointed by NPOC. > > The Vice-Chair of NPOC is not necessarily the NPOC representative on the > NCSG-EC. > > It is very important for NPOC to clarify what these roles entail and what > is the process for making their appointments. The process should be open > and transparent and accountable to the membership, so these matters should > be clearly explained as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Robin > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Alain Berranger > *Date: *October 24, 2012 12:11:40 PM PDT > *To: *Robin Gross > *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice-Chair > of NPOC* > > Hi Robin, > > Thanks for your kind words. > > Cintra's appointment is interim until we can have elections. > > The NPOC rep on NCSG EC will be separate and interim too until elections. > I will advise soonest I have done all the necessary consultations. > > I will shortly write to you separately on following up on NCSG-EC business > as per our Toronto meeting. > > Cheers, Alain > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Hello Alain, >> >> Good to see you in Toronto. We make great progress there! >> >> In addition to NPOC VP, will Cintra also replace Lori as NPOC >> representative on the NCSG Executive Committee? Or will that be a >> separate appointment? >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Cintra Sooknanan >> *Date: *October 24, 2012 11:52:05 AM PDT >> *Cc: *npoc-voice at icann.org, Glen de Saint Gery , >> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org, Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond , Lori >> Schulman , npoc at icann.org, "Tracy F. Hackshaw" < >> tracyhackshaw at gmail.com>, Robin Gross , marie-laure >> Lemineur , Poncelet Ileleji , >> mandy.carver at icann.org, Robert Hoggarth , >> Evan Leibovitch , Alain Berranger < >> alain.berranger at gmail.com>, Maria Farrell >> *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim >> Vice-Chair of NPOC* >> >> Dear All, >> >> Thank you very much for your warm salutations and reception, it is my >> pleasure to serve in this role. >> >> Many of you are aware that my engagement with ICANN has been directly >> aligned with NCSG's Charter in voicing and representing non-profit, >> non-commercial interests and Internet users. To this common end, I look >> forward to our working together and mutual support. >> >> Best regards >> >> Cintra Sooknanan >> Chair >> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Alain Berranger < >> alain.berranger at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear NPOC Colleagues, >>> >>> Following the recently announced resignation of Lori Schulman for >>> personal reasons, and until the NPOC election replacement process is duly >>> completed, an interim Vice-Chair is being appointed. After comprehensive >>> fast track consultations in Toronto, I have appointed Ms. Cintra Sooknanan >>> of the Trinidad & Tobago ISOC Chapter to that position. >>> >>> I am very pleased to welcome Cintra to the Executive Committee of NPOC. >>> Cintra has been active in both NPOC and At Large and her experience will >>> be important to her new role in NPOC. >>> >>> I am grateful to Cintra, as well as to Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond and Tracy >>> Hackshaw for their collaboration and support in making this interim >>> appointment possible. >>> >>> Cintra will take up her new role and responsibilities effective >>> immediately. Her first responsibility will be to join forces with >>> Marie-laure and Poncelet in delivering the NPOC Side Session at IGF 2012 in >>> Baku in a couple of weeks. Thereafter. he will second me as needed with >>> regular NPOC duties and with special assignments as tasked from time to >>> time. >>> >>> Mandy, as requested in Toronto during the Internet Governance Landscape >>> Session, I am please to advise you that NPOC will now have 3 >>> representatives in Baku: Marie-laure Lemineur from Costa Rica, Poncelet >>> Ileleji from The Gambia and Cintra Sooknanan from Trinidad and Tobago. >>> >>> Please join me in wishing Cintra all the success needed! >>> >>> Best regards, Alain >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>> Skype: alain.berranger >>> >>> >>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >>> ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Tue Oct 30 21:43:23 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:43:23 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <6F193469-0272-4B3F-9AF5-8969217D81CA@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Robin, No offense taken. I hope my clarification was sufficient. What maybe needs further explaining, is that NPOC does active recruiting and it would be nonsensical for NPOC to invite an NGO/NFP to apply for NCSG membership and then refuse them membership in NPOC! So, de facto as the form and process now stands, when NCSG approves a member recruited by NPOC, it becomes an NPOC member. That is what I mean by APPROVED FOR NPOC membership, because I don't mean APPROVED FOR NCUC membership. For instance, Bytes for Pakistan (spelling?) was not recruited by NPOC, so I APPROVE FOR NCUC membership was my statement. This is also required because the current NCSG application template is in need of improvement (as we agreed in Toronto during the NCSG-EC meeting and we do not wish for an NPOC-recruited member to become inadvertently an NCUC member because of a template snafu (or booby trap as Klaus calls them!) or misreading by applicant. Remember for instance the British Red Cross, clearly recruited by NPOC, ended up as an NCUC applicant. Finally, since we have not agreed on a one step (NPOC's preference) or two step process (NCUC's preference), these clarifying comments during approval are useful in my mind and clearly establishe which Constituency the applicant joins, in case of any doubt. Thanks and I hope you understand, Alain On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear Alain, > > Please do not get offended. I am sincerely asking for clarification > because we have a misunderstanding as to what is said and what it means. > > I'm simply trying to clarify that this is an NCSG-EC activity - reviewing > and approving NCSG membership applications, as per the NCSG Charter. This > NCSG-EC is not approving NPOC memberships - that is up to NPOC to do > according to its own procedures. That is all I am saying and hope you are > hearing. > > Thank you, > Robin > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Robin, > > It means what it says. It is as clear as canadian glacier water!... > > Are you assuming there is a consensus on the process? this is not the > case... we progressed a bit in Toronto, but did not finish our discussions; > we certainly discussed but did not agree to this 2 step approach... We > decided the NCSG membership application template needs to be redesigned and > NPOC and NCUC must come to an agreement. > > We at NPOC recruit for NPOC - this is clear - and the NCSG process is a > first hoop we have to jump through because of the charter... we comply to > the letter, but not great spirit in doing it..., I assure you. I was > starting to be comfortable that NPOC could thrive inside NCSG, but now I > have my doubts with your remark. > > To go forward, let's make sure the fragile relationship we are building is > maintained and not jump to the conclusion that NPOC will do whatever the > NCSG establishment wishes... > > Please, I am mostly interested in growing the NPOC Constituency... can > this please make sure this happens in NCSG as we now stand? Please cut us > some slack!... > > Thanks for your understanding! > > Alain > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Alain, >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". >> >> We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to NCSG >> membership. >> >> Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that happens >> after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done by the individual >> constituencies. >> >> So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an NCSG >> activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies this task. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link in >> Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin for an >> alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I can access the >> applications. Thks in advance >> >> Alain >> >> PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected where >> necessary... >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS***** >>> >>> >>> *ORGANIZATIONS:***** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >>> ***** >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *2. British Red Cross ***** >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or >>> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial >>> civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from >>> organization.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin**** >>> >>> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for >>> clarification** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >>> ***** >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is >>> in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : >>> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial >>> organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties >>> of organization.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an >>> inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the >>> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However, >>> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit, >>> advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you >>> vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification >>> programs for profit, or run on advertising? >>> >> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior >> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit >> like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on >> NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting >> NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of >> NCSG. I will raise your concerns... >> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *4. Bytes for All, Pakistan* **** >>> >>> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but >>> there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit >>> as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not for profit status is >>> confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *5. REPAOC ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >>> about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure >>> recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC. >>> Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with >>> Marie-laure et al ** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *6. Sorites Dot Biz* * ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >>> about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can >>> find no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered >>> under a commercial domain (.biz)**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas* *** >>> * >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this >>> applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his >>> time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank. >>> ** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International* >>> **** >>> >>> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. >>> Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry.*** >>> * >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi >>> referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well >>> before we decide which way to go** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia >>> Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies >>> for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted >>> to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *9. Movimento Mega Nao* **** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* **** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto >>> that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *INDIVIDUALS:***** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *1. Benjamin Farrand***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *2. Edamwen Anthony* **** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >>> application? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *3. Niel Harper ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied >>> doesn?t work**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *4. Stefania Milan ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *5. Staffon Jonson ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >>> application? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *6. Denise Brunsdon ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know >>> Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *7. Walusungu Gondwe***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *8. Tobias Mahler***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *9. John Border***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *10. Sarah Clayton***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *11. Anton Permadi ***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *12. Olga Korotvova***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *13. Anthony Nweke***** >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>> >>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ---- END ----**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> IP JUSTICE**** >>> >>> Robin Gross, Executive Director**** >>> >>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA**** >>> >>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451**** >>> >>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org**** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EC-NCSG mailing list >>> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >> www.schulich.yorku.ca >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >> Skype: alain.berranger >> >> >> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >> ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Tue Oct 30 21:53:50 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:53:50 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2275866@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <6F193469-0272-4B3F-9AF5-8969217D81CA@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Alain, You agreed during the EC meeting in Toronto that this 2-step process was confusing to people and needed to be separated out of the NCSG membership application. Are you now changing your mind again on your position on this matter and now wishing to re-open what had been decided in Toronto unanimously including your agreement there? NCSG applicants are increasingly confused because you do not explain to them that NCSG membership is a separate process from NPOC membership. You are accepting orgs as NPOC members before they are admitted into the NCSG. How many times do I have to explain to you that is backwards and contrary to the NCSG Charter? This matter was finally laid to rest in Toronto. Why are you now wishing to open it and continue to cause confusion among applicants? Regards, Robin On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > Dear Robin, > > No offense taken. > > I hope my clarification was sufficient. > > What maybe needs further explaining, is that NPOC does active > recruiting and it would be nonsensical for NPOC to invite an NGO/ > NFP to apply for NCSG membership and then refuse them membership in > NPOC! So, de facto as the form and process now stands, when NCSG > approves a member recruited by NPOC, it becomes an NPOC member. > That is what I mean by APPROVED FOR NPOC membership, because I > don't mean APPROVED FOR NCUC membership. For instance, Bytes for > Pakistan (spelling?) was not recruited by NPOC, so I APPROVE FOR > NCUC membership was my statement. > > This is also required because the current NCSG application template > is in need of improvement (as we agreed in Toronto during the NCSG- > EC meeting and we do not wish for an NPOC-recruited member to > become inadvertently an NCUC member because of a template snafu > (or booby trap as Klaus calls them!) or misreading by applicant. > Remember for instance the British Red Cross, clearly recruited by > NPOC, ended up as an NCUC applicant. > > Finally, since we have not agreed on a one step (NPOC's preference) > or two step process (NCUC's preference), these clarifying comments > during approval are useful in my mind and clearly establishe which > Constituency the applicant joins, in case of any doubt. > > Thanks and I hope you understand, Alain > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear Alain, > > Please do not get offended. I am sincerely asking for > clarification because we have a misunderstanding as to what is said > and what it means. > > I'm simply trying to clarify that this is an NCSG-EC activity - > reviewing and approving NCSG membership applications, as per the > NCSG Charter. This NCSG-EC is not approving NPOC memberships - > that is up to NPOC to do according to its own procedures. That is > all I am saying and hope you are hearing. > > Thank you, > Robin > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: > >> Robin, >> >> It means what it says. It is as clear as canadian glacier water!... >> >> Are you assuming there is a consensus on the process? this is not >> the case... we progressed a bit in Toronto, but did not finish our >> discussions; we certainly discussed but did not agree to this 2 >> step approach... We decided the NCSG membership application >> template needs to be redesigned and NPOC and NCUC must come to an >> agreement. >> >> We at NPOC recruit for NPOC - this is clear - and the NCSG process >> is a first hoop we have to jump through because of the charter... >> we comply to the letter, but not great spirit in doing it..., I >> assure you. I was starting to be comfortable that NPOC could >> thrive inside NCSG, but now I have my doubts with your remark. >> >> To go forward, let's make sure the fragile relationship we are >> building is maintained and not jump to the conclusion that NPOC >> will do whatever the NCSG establishment wishes... >> >> Please, I am mostly interested in growing the NPOC Constituency... >> can this please make sure this happens in NCSG as we now stand? >> Please cut us some slack!... >> >> Thanks for your understanding! >> >> Alain >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Robin Gross >> wrote: >> Alain, >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". >> >> We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to >> NCSG membership. >> >> Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that >> happens after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done >> by the individual constituencies. >> >> So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an >> NCSG activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies >> this task. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs >>> link in Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked >>> Robin for an alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as >>> soon as I can access the applications. Thks in advance >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected >>> where necessary... >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS >>> >>> >>> ORGANIZATIONS: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Robin Gross voted to approve. >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. British Red Cross >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. >>> >>> >>> >>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part >>> of (or chartered under) governmental authority and not >>> independent noncommercial civil society organization. Need >>> further inquiry and clarification from organization. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin >>> >>> Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask >>> for clarification >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership. >>> >>> >>> >>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its >>> website is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of >>> the website, ex : Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is >>> mainly funded by commercial organizations. Would like further >>> information and input on commercial ties of organization. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I >>> have an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come >>> from the certification programs they run, so there is nothing >>> wrong there. However, they mention that Alison.com is a partner, >>> and Alison.com is a for-profit, advertising supported entity that >>> offers free learning. Alain, can you vouch that they are >>> nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification programs >>> for profit, or run on advertising? >>> >>> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior >>> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the >>> side (A bit like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). >>> He is a volunteer on NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of >>> facilitating the recruiting NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so >>> he understands wlll the NFP criteria of NCSG. I will raise your >>> concerns... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. Bytes for All, Pakistan >>> >>> Robin Gross voted to approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity >>> but there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is >>> an NCUC recruit as I do not recall initiating this contact... if >>> not for profit status is confirmed, I would approve for NCUC >>> membership >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 5. REPAOC >>> >>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer >>> questions about how funded, etc. and website is all in French >>> language. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure >>> recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of >>> REPAOC. Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the >>> IAB with Marie-laure et al >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 6. Sorites Dot Biz >>> >>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer >>> questions about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no >>> content. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I >>> can find no information anywhere about this organization, and it >>> is registered under a commercial domain (.biz) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited >>> this applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time >>> friend from his time with the Italian government and the >>> Interamerican Development Bank. >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International >>> >>> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 >>> sentences. Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need >>> further inquiry. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and >>> Fadi referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence >>> particularely well before we decide which way to go >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, >>> Julia Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not >>> sure it qualifies for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational >>> activities, but if she wanted to join NCSG as an individual >>> member I would see no problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 9. Movimento Mega Nao >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 10. US-Ignite (reconsideration) >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in >>> Toronto that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> INDIVIDUALS: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Benjamin Farrand >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Edamwen Anthony >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >>> application? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. Niel Harper >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were >>> supplied doesn?t work >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. Stefania Milan >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 5. Staffon Jonson >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see >>> the application? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 6. Denise Brunsdon >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know >>> Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 7. Walusungu Gondwe >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 8. Tobias Mahler >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 9. John Border >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....need more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 10. Sarah Clayton >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....need more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 11. Anton Permadi >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 12. Olga Korotvova >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 13. Anthony Nweke >>> >>> Robin Gross votes to Approve. >>> >>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application >>> >>> Rafik Damak ..... >>> >>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- END ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> IP JUSTICE >>> >>> Robin Gross, Executive Director >>> >>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >>> >>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >>> >>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EC-NCSG mailing list >>> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>> Skype: alain.berranger >>> >>> >>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du >>> destinataire ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received > this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this > e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Tue Oct 30 21:55:35 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:55:35 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes & comments In-Reply-To: <5C4DDFEC-25E5-47BC-8122-CB443B44F34A@ipjustice.org> References: <5C4DDFEC-25E5-47BC-8122-CB443B44F34A@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, ISOC-TT was approved by NPOC before the current NCSG membership form was initiated. See attached scan. I therefore vote for approval as an NCSG member and vote again for approval as an NPOC member. Bets, Alain On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear EC Members: > > We have a new NCSG membership application from ISOC-TT to consider (it is > in the google data file with all the other pending applications). > > But it just came in today and I'd like for it to be considered in the > batch that just went out yesterday for decision by the NCSG-EC. So let's > please add it here to this email discussion thread and make our decision on > it asap. (Apparently the group joined NPOC, but did not apply for NCSG > membership until now due to a misunderstanding of the process of joining > NCSG first.) > > For the record, I vote to APPROVE the membership application from ISOC-TT. > > Milton ..... > Alain ..... > Rafik ..... > > How do other NCSG-EC members vote on this application? > > Thank you, > Robin > > > > On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Dear EC Members: > > We need to complete forthwith the due diligence and evaluation for the > following 23 pending NCSG membership applications (10 are for > organizational members, including a reconsideration from US-Ignite, and 13 > applications for individual membership to NCSG). > > In an attempt to clarify which applications are presently before us and > what their individual status is, I've listed them below. Please use the > below list as our immediate "to-do" list to evaluate, and use it in > conjunction with the complete membership application data submitted by the > applicant and provided in the Google docs data file for > membership applications. > > I've done my due diligence for the 23 applications below and include my > vote / comment on each application. Alain has evaluated a couple of the > organizational applications also and his votes are recorded below also. > We need to replace the "..." blank spaces below with votes/comments from > each voting member of the NCSG-EC on each application. Please complete > your due diligence and provide your vote/comment within the next couple of > days so we can get back to these applicants as soon as possible. > > Thank you, > Robin > > *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS* > > *ORGANIZATIONS:* > > *1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations > * > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *2. British Red Cross* > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or > chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial > civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from > organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement > * > Alain Berranger voted to approve. > > Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is > in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : > Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial > organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties > of organization. > > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *4. Bytes for All, Pakistan* > Robin Gross voted to approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *5. REPAOC * > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions > about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *6. Sorites Dot Biz* * * > Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions > about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International* > Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. Not > clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *9. Movimento Mega Nao* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger voted to Approve. > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *INDIVIDUALS:* > > *1. Benjamin Farrand* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *2. Edamwen Anthony* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *3. Niel Harper* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *4. Stefania Milan * > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *5. Staffon Jonson * > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > * > * > *6. Denise Brunsdon * > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *7. Walusungu Gondwe* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *8. Tobias Mahler* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *9. John Border* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *10. Sarah Clayton* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *11. Anton Permadi * > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *12. Olga Korotvova* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > *13. Anthony Nweke* > Robin Gross votes to Approve. > Alain Beranger ..... > Rafik Damak ..... > Milton Mueller ..... > > > ---- END ---- > > > > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EC-NCSG mailing list > EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? 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Are you forgetting this and now want to go ahead with a process NPOC does not agree with? maybe we need to go to the transcripts or audio if they are available? If I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected. What I also recall is that we decided in Toronto to form a small group to improve the NCSG form. We also decided to seek help from ICANN to relieve us of designing membership application forms and such administrative tasks and return Executive Committee members to the job of being an Executive Committee. You committed to writing a draft letter to that effect for EC review. Is my recall exact? The confusion is about legacy cases like the ISOC-T&T from a period when neither you or I were in our current positions and the process was different. Since the NCSG form has been made available, we at NPOC have religiously explained the process to new applicants we recruit. Klaus can attest to that and I can send you emails galore to that effect. Please do not accuse me of causing confusion, it is untrue and unfair and it wastes both our times. You ask me questions as if we were in court in front of a judge and I was the accused! We all need to take a multi-disciplinary approach to our NCSG EC work. It would have helped if you had appointed a note taker in Toronto and produced/circulated meeting outcomes and action items agreed by all present that we could now refer to. I consider that a basic requirement of productive meetings. If it would help, I suggest we hold a telephone call when both of us will be in a better frame of mind...or we can decide to move forward now with meeting notes (I volunteer to write a draft and circulate it for edits, omissions, etc...) and you draft the letter to ICANN requesting assistance in mainstreaming the membership application process, allowing us to move to more substantive questions and less administrative. We need to take this membership application process out of the hands of time-stressed volunteers like Brenden and into the hands of ICANN staff, under NCSG-EC guidance. What do you say to this proposal? Best regards, alain On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Dear Alain, > > You agreed during the EC meeting in Toronto that this 2-step process was > confusing to people and needed to be separated out of the NCSG membership > application. > > Are you now changing your mind again on your position on this matter and > now wishing to re-open what had been decided in Toronto unanimously > including your agreement there? > > NCSG applicants are increasingly confused because you do not explain to > them that NCSG membership is a separate process from NPOC membership. You > are accepting orgs as NPOC members before they are admitted into the NCSG. > How many times do I have to explain to you that is backwards and contrary > to the NCSG Charter? This matter was finally laid to rest in Toronto. > Why are you now wishing to open it and continue to cause confusion among > applicants? > > Regards, > Robin > > > > On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Alain Berranger wrote: > > Dear Robin, > > No offense taken. > > I hope my clarification was sufficient. > > What maybe needs further explaining, is that NPOC does active recruiting > and it would be nonsensical for NPOC to invite an NGO/NFP to apply for NCSG > membership and then refuse them membership in NPOC! So, de facto as the > form and process now stands, when NCSG approves a member recruited by NPOC, > it becomes an NPOC member. That is what I mean by APPROVED FOR NPOC > membership, because I don't mean APPROVED FOR NCUC membership. For > instance, Bytes for Pakistan (spelling?) was not recruited by NPOC, so I > APPROVE FOR NCUC membership was my statement. > > This is also required because the current NCSG application template is in > need of improvement (as we agreed in Toronto during the NCSG-EC meeting and > we do not wish for an NPOC-recruited member to become inadvertently an > NCUC member because of a template snafu (or booby trap as Klaus calls > them!) or misreading by applicant. Remember for instance the British Red > Cross, clearly recruited by NPOC, ended up as an NCUC applicant. > > Finally, since we have not agreed on a one step (NPOC's preference) or two > step process (NCUC's preference), these clarifying comments during approval > are useful in my mind and clearly establishe which Constituency the > applicant joins, in case of any doubt. > > Thanks and I hope you understand, Alain > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear Alain, >> >> Please do not get offended. I am sincerely asking for clarification >> because we have a misunderstanding as to what is said and what it means. >> >> I'm simply trying to clarify that this is an NCSG-EC activity - reviewing >> and approving NCSG membership applications, as per the NCSG Charter. This >> NCSG-EC is not approving NPOC memberships - that is up to NPOC to do >> according to its own procedures. That is all I am saying and hope you are >> hearing. >> >> Thank you, >> Robin >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: >> >> Robin, >> >> It means what it says. It is as clear as canadian glacier water!... >> >> Are you assuming there is a consensus on the process? this is not the >> case... we progressed a bit in Toronto, but did not finish our discussions; >> we certainly discussed but did not agree to this 2 step approach... We >> decided the NCSG membership application template needs to be redesigned and >> NPOC and NCUC must come to an agreement. >> >> We at NPOC recruit for NPOC - this is clear - and the NCSG process is a >> first hoop we have to jump through because of the charter... we comply to >> the letter, but not great spirit in doing it..., I assure you. I was >> starting to be comfortable that NPOC could thrive inside NCSG, but now I >> have my doubts with your remark. >> >> To go forward, let's make sure the fragile relationship we are building >> is maintained and not jump to the conclusion that NPOC will do whatever the >> NCSG establishment wishes... >> >> Please, I am mostly interested in growing the NPOC Constituency... can >> this please make sure this happens in NCSG as we now stand? Please cut us >> some slack!... >> >> Thanks for your understanding! >> >> Alain >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> >>> Alain, >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by "approve for NPOC membership". >>> >>> We are a committee of NCSG members voting to approve applicants to NCSG >>> membership. >>> >>> Approval for constituency memberships is a separate process that happens >>> after NCSG has accepted them for membership, and is done by the individual >>> constituencies. >>> >>> So we (NCSG-EC) are not approving anything for NPOC - this is an NCSG >>> activity we are doing on this list. I hope that clarifies this task. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Alain Berranger wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link in >>> Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin for an >>> alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I can access the >>> applications. Thks in advance >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected where >>> necessary... >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS***** >>>> >>>> >>>> *ORGANIZATIONS:***** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *1. National Council for Voluntary Organisations >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *2. British Red Cross ***** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or >>>> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial >>>> civil society organization. Need further inquiry and clarification from >>>> organization.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin**** >>>> >>>> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for >>>> clarification** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *3. INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website >>>> is in French). But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex : >>>> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial >>>> organizations. Would like further information and input on commercial ties >>>> of organization.**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have >>>> an inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the >>>> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However, >>>> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit, >>>> advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you >>>> vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification >>>> programs for profit, or run on advertising? >>>> >>> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior >>> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit >>> like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on >>> NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting >>> NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of >>> NCSG. I will raise your concerns... >>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *4. Bytes for All, Pakistan* **** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross voted to approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but >>>> there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit >>>> as I do not recall initiating this contact... if not for profit status is >>>> confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *5. REPAOC ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >>>> about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure >>>> recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC. >>>> Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with >>>> Marie-laure et al ** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *6. Sorites Dot Biz* * ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete. Did not answer questions >>>> about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can >>>> find no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered >>>> under a commercial domain (.biz)**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *7. Fondazione Rosselli Americas* ** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this >>>> applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his >>>> time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank. >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *8. TaC-Together against Cybercrime International* >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences. >>>> Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded. Need further inquiry.** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi >>>> referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well >>>> before we decide which way to go** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia >>>> Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies >>>> for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted >>>> to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem. **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *9. Movimento Mega Nao* **** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* **** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto >>>> that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *INDIVIDUALS:***** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *1. Benjamin Farrand***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *2. Edamwen Anthony* **** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >>>> application? **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *3. Niel Harper ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied >>>> doesn?t work**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *4. Stefania Milan ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *5. Staffon Jonson ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the >>>> application? **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *6. Denise Brunsdon ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know >>>> Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *7. Walusungu Gondwe***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *8. Tobias Mahler***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *9. John Border***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *10. Sarah Clayton***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....need more information**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *11. Anton Permadi ***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *12. Olga Korotvova***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *13. Anthony Nweke***** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.**** >>>> >>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application**** >>>> >>>> Rafik Damak .....**** >>>> >>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ---- END ----**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> IP JUSTICE**** >>>> >>>> Robin Gross, Executive Director**** >>>> >>>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA**** >>>> >>>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451**** >>>> >>>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org**** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> EC-NCSG mailing list >>>> EC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/ec-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>> Skype: alain.berranger >>> >>> >>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >>> ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.berranger Wed Oct 31 18:19:01 2012 From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:19:01 -0400 Subject: [EC-NCSG] [npoc-voice] Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim Vice-Chair of NPOC In-Reply-To: <-7332636106701194482@unknownmsgid> References: <-7332636106701194482@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Ch?re Caroline, Thanks for your understanding under these exceptional circumstances. It is correct to say that the access to the Executive Committee email list " ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" is limited to Executive Committee members of the Non Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) of which NPOC is one of two Constituencies along side NCUC. NPOC and NCUC each appoint two members to the NCSG EC. Current members are Rafik Dammak and Milton Mueller (the founder some 12 years ago of NCUC) for NCUC and Lori Schulman (resigned) and the undersigned. Robin Gross was elected to Chair of NCSG EC for a second year and was unopposed. There is also an observer, Dorothy K. Gordon - Consumer Interest Group (a proposed new Constituency) See https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-EC for more details. We will discuss NPOC's appointments to NCSG EC at our NPOC November teleconference. That said, we have NPOC elections next year and I hope you will be a candidate for one of the NPOC Executive Committee positions. Salutations amicales, Alain On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Caroline Figu?res wrote: > Dear Alain > I understand your concerns to make things moving fast. I would indeed have > been beter to consult first but I am confident that the people you > mentioned took a good decision in appointing Cintra. > > I can live with this approach and this result as you mention this is > exceptional. > > Kind regards > Caroline > > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > > Op 30 okt. 2012 om 20:29 heeft Alain Berranger > het volgende geschreven: > > Dear all, > > To repeat what has already been clearly stated: > > 1) Cintra was appointed as Acting Vice-Chair of NPOC to replace Lori > Schulman who resigned for personal reasons (these are confidential and > called for quick discretionary decision-making by myself); This was a fast > track appointment decided exceptionally by NPOC-EC members in Toronto > (Klaus, Marie-Laure, Eduardo and the undersigned, so 4 out of 5 seating EC > members as Judy Branzelle was not available for urgent consultations). > This decision was made quickly to respond to the needs and request of Lori, > again for confidential personal reasons. This was all explained on > NPOC-Voice. > 2) Given the pace at which NCSG-EC works, the NPOC appointee to NCSG-EC to > replace Lori, which is not automatically Cintra but she is not excluded as > a candidate, is less urgent and the NPOC membership needs to be fully > consulted anyway, as always. This will first be discussed at NPOC's > November monthly call with the membership at large and then posted on > NPOC-Voice for nominations. > > I can't think of a process that would be more open, transparent and > accountable to the membership. > > Best regards, Alain > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Dear Cintra, >> >> It appears from the below email from Alain that NPOC has not appointed >> you to the NCSG-EC. He said that would be a separate appointment after he >> did some consultations. So there seems to be some confusion as to just >> what role you have been appointed by NPOC. >> >> The Vice-Chair of NPOC is not necessarily the NPOC representative on the >> NCSG-EC. >> >> It is very important for NPOC to clarify what these roles entail and what >> is the process for making their appointments. The process should be open >> and transparent and accountable to the membership, so these matters should >> be clearly explained as soon as possible. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Alain Berranger >> *Date: *October 24, 2012 12:11:40 PM PDT >> *To: *Robin Gross >> *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim >> Vice-Chair of NPOC* >> >> Hi Robin, >> >> Thanks for your kind words. >> >> Cintra's appointment is interim until we can have elections. >> >> The NPOC rep on NCSG EC will be separate and interim too until elections. >> I will advise soonest I have done all the necessary consultations. >> >> I will shortly write to you separately on following up on NCSG-EC >> business as per our Toronto meeting. >> >> Cheers, Alain >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> >>> Hello Alain, >>> >>> Good to see you in Toronto. We make great progress there! >>> >>> In addition to NPOC VP, will Cintra also replace Lori as NPOC >>> representative on the NCSG Executive Committee? Or will that be a >>> separate appointment? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *Cintra Sooknanan >>> *Date: *October 24, 2012 11:52:05 AM PDT >>> *Cc: *npoc-voice at icann.org, Glen de Saint Gery , >>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org, Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond , >>> Lori Schulman , npoc at icann.org, "Tracy F. >>> Hackshaw" , Robin Gross , >>> marie-laure Lemineur , Poncelet Ileleji < >>> pileleji at ymca.gm>, mandy.carver at icann.org, Robert Hoggarth < >>> robert.hoggarth at icann.org>, Evan Leibovitch , >>> Alain Berranger , Maria Farrell < >>> maria.farrell at gmail.com> >>> *Subject: **Re: Appointment of Ms. Cintra Sooknanan as Interim >>> Vice-Chair of NPOC* >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your warm salutations and reception, it is my >>> pleasure to serve in this role. >>> >>> Many of you are aware that my engagement with ICANN has been directly >>> aligned with NCSG's Charter in voicing and representing non-profit, >>> non-commercial interests and Internet users. To this common end, I look >>> forward to our working together and mutual support. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Cintra Sooknanan >>> Chair >>> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Alain Berranger < >>> alain.berranger at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear NPOC Colleagues, >>>> >>>> Following the recently announced resignation of Lori Schulman for >>>> personal reasons, and until the NPOC election replacement process is duly >>>> completed, an interim Vice-Chair is being appointed. After comprehensive >>>> fast track consultations in Toronto, I have appointed Ms. Cintra Sooknanan >>>> of the Trinidad & Tobago ISOC Chapter to that position. >>>> >>>> I am very pleased to welcome Cintra to the Executive Committee of NPOC. >>>> Cintra has been active in both NPOC and At Large and her experience will >>>> be important to her new role in NPOC. >>>> >>>> I am grateful to Cintra, as well as to Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond and Tracy >>>> Hackshaw for their collaboration and support in making this interim >>>> appointment possible. >>>> >>>> Cintra will take up her new role and responsibilities effective >>>> immediately. Her first responsibility will be to join forces with >>>> Marie-laure and Poncelet in delivering the NPOC Side Session at IGF 2012 in >>>> Baku in a couple of weeks. Thereafter. he will second me as needed with >>>> regular NPOC duties and with special assignments as tasked from time to >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Mandy, as requested in Toronto during the Internet Governance Landscape >>>> Session, I am please to advise you that NPOC will now have 3 >>>> representatives in Baku: Marie-laure Lemineur from Costa Rica, Poncelet >>>> Ileleji from The Gambia and Cintra Sooknanan from Trinidad and Tobago. >>>> >>>> Please join me in wishing Cintra all the success needed! >>>> >>>> Best regards, Alain >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>>> Skype: alain.berranger >>>> >>>> >>>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? >>>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire >>>> ci-dessus. 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If the addressee cannot be reached or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Wed Oct 31 19:26:36 2012 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:26:36 -0700 Subject: [EC-NCSG] Important - adding new NPOC Vice Chair to NCSG lists In-Reply-To: References: <6250520D-ED6E-4B31-9463-9BB297925F6D@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <24584770-637B-41EA-92B7-F9A0BDE4B26E@ipjustice.org> Thanks, Cintra. I've asked Brenden to add you to the list as an observer in the interim while we deal with the pending NCSG membership application. We won't be able to make a habit of accepting people onto the mailing list before their application is approved, so constituencies need to be clear to their recruits up front that step one is filling out a NCSG membership application. After acceptance into NCSG, members are free to join 0, 1, 2, or 3 constituencies within NCSG, are added to the NCSG mailing list, join working groups, etc. Hopefully new applicants won't have the prior misunderstanding as previous applicants have had and will use the proper process going forward. Thanks again, Robin On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: > Dear Robin, > > It is heartening to know that ISOC-TT's application is being dealt > with forthwith, thank you for taking the time and effort to review > and acknowledge receipt. > > I confirm that my appointment as NPOC vice-chair was in keeping > with NPOC's procedure and am guided by Alain's response regarding > the status of the NPOC representative on the NCSG Executive > Committee. In fact I had not seen any discussion by NPOC's > Executive about the latter so I am grateful for the clarification > and apologise for any confusion caused. > > Also since this is really procedural, due to be resolved shortly > and not a substantive matter, may I be added to the NCSG mailing > lists as an observer in the interim? > > Kind regards > > Cintra Sooknanan > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: > Dear Cintra, > > I spent a good bit over time over the weekend looking for an > application from ISOC-TT to join the NCSG and couldn't find one. I > suspect that there was some confusion from NPOC leaders as to the > proper process for joining NCSG and so NCSG membership forms were > never filled out for ISOC-TT. > > One must first join NCSG. And then after acceptance to NCSG, does > one apply for membership in a constituency such as NPOC and/or > NCUC. So joining NPOC first is backwards and has led to a lot of > confusion from NPOC applicants who thought they were automatically > members of NCSG simply by joining NPOC. > > I'm very excited to see you have been appointed NPOC-VC and glad > you wish to become more engaged. Now that there is a membership > application submitted for your organization, it should not take > much time to approve it and welcome ISOC-TT into the NCSG. > > On the issue of your possible appointment to NCSG-EC, Alain told me > last week you were not appointed to NCSG-EC, so there seems to be > some confusion about that (I'll forward that email to you separately). > > Hopefully we can clear this all up in the next few days and I'm > glad for the opportunity to be working more closely with you in the > coming months. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions on this or > need any further clarification. > > Thanks again! > Robin > > > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: > >> Hi Robin >> >> Perhaps, there was a hiccup with the ISOC-TT Application to NCSG, >> to be sure I have filled out https://community.icann.org/display/ >> gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application for review. >> >> I have not had any reply from you regarding my email below, but in >> the interim could you please ensure that I am added to the NCSG >> mailing list and the NCSG Executive Mailing list (as the NPOC >> representative in place of Lori). >> >> Looking forward to your early feedback on these matters. I am >> happy to respond to any questions or comments you may have. >> >> Regards >> >> Cintra Sooknanan >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Cintra Sooknanan >> wrote: >> Dear Robin, >> >> Hope you had a very comfortable return from the ICANN Toronto >> meeting. >> >> Please see the email below. Is there any reason I can not be added >> to the NCSG mailing list? Who should we request this addition to, >> if Glen is not the administrator of this list? >> >> Thanks for your guidance, >> >> Cintra Sooknanan >> Chair >> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Glen de Saint G?ry >> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM >> Subject: RE: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list >> To: Cintra Sooknanan >> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" >> >> >> Dear Cintra, >> >> >> >> this has been done for the NPOC list, but I do not administer the >> NCSG mailing list. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Gmen >> >> >> >> Glen de Saint G?ry >> >> GNSO Secretariat >> >> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org >> >> http://gnso.icann.org >> >> >> >> From: Cintra Sooknanan [mailto:cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com] >> Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 22:42 >> >> >> To: Glen de Saint G?ry >> Cc: Eduardo Monge; Niran Beharry; Tracy F. Hackshaw; Alain Berranger >> Subject: Re: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list >> >> >> >> Dear Glen, >> >> >> >> Please note that I am the primary representative for ISOC-TT on >> NPOC and Mr. Niran Beharry is the secondary. Both Niran Beharry >> and Tracy Hackshaw should be added to the NPOC Voice and NCSG >> Mailing list as observers of ISOC-TT. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your prompt assistance in fulfilling this request. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Cintra Sooknanan >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Eduardo Monge >> wrote: >> >> Dear Glenn, >> >> >> >> I would like to request that Cintra Sooknanan of the Trinidad & >> Tobago ISOC Chapter, recently appointed NPOC?s acting Vice-Chair, >> be added to the NPOC-Executive Committee mailing list at http:// >> forum.icann.org/lists/npoc/ >> >> Her email address is cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com >> >> Regards, >> >> Eduardo Monge >> NPOC Communications Committee Chair >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org > > > > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin at ipjustice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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