From alain.berranger  Thu Nov  1 21:05:58 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:05:58 -0400
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments
 Needing Volunteers Now
In-Reply-To: <86F61815-0F61-4555-886F-B7C9BEC0CC39@ipjustice.org>
References: <86F61815-0F61-4555-886F-B7C9BEC0CC39@ipjustice.org>
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Dear Robin,

*Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet
Access/Cybercafe Ecosystem"*
*Comment Close: 17 November 2012 *
*Reply Close: 17 December 2012*

How do you propose that the EC members work on this item? Does each EC
member share his/her view soonest to the EC list?

Cheers, Alain

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
Date: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments Needing Volunteers
Now
To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu


Dear All:

NCSG has a new calendar to help keep track of important meetings,
deadlines, key comment periods, etc.  Check it out here:
   https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Calendar

Also see ICANN Comments open:
   http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment

Below are 4 open comment periods that NCSG should submit a comment on to
ICANN before the final deadlines.  It would be great if we could get a
small team of NCSG members to work together on drafting a comment for each
issue below.  Of course people are always encouraged to send in their own
personal comment, irrespective of any group comment.

Are there any volunteers for members who would like to form a drafting team
for any of the issues below?  I'm sure the NCSG Policy Committees can
provide some guidance on these issues and NCSG perspectives as well.

Thanks,
Robin

*ISSUE:*

Trademark Clearinghouse
Documents<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/tmch-docs-24sep12-en.htm>
Comment Closed:  15 October
Reply Close:  7 November 2012

Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names
(RCRC) Drafting Team ?
Recommendations<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep12-en.htm>

Comment Closed
Reply Close: 9 November 2012

Community Input Draft 2013-2016 Strategic Plan
<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/stratplan-draft-2013-24sep12-en.htm>
Comment Close:  13 November 2012
Reply Close:  4 December 2012

Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet
Access/Cybercafe
Ecosystem"<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/afc-ccaoi-piacc-10oct12-en.htm>
Comment Close: 17 November 2012
Reply Close: 17 December 2012




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-- 
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Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
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From robin  Fri Nov  2 02:48:15 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:15 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments
	Needing Volunteers Now
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Thanks, Alain.

We have taken volunteers from the NCSG membership to set-up a working  
group to evaluate this application in detail and then this working  
group sends its recommendation to the EC.

I've asked Glen to please set up a dedicated temporary email  
discussion list so the working group can get started focusing on this  
application.  Hopefully that will be ready to go in a couple days.   
This working group would also be best positioned to guide the  
membership on a response during the comment period as well.  Of  
course any one can file a comment at any time on this issue (or any  
issue for which there is an open comment period).  I only mentioned  
as one of the possible open comment periods that would be of general  
interest to the membership.  But I do think the internal working  
group should lead on these discussions and hope that will be underway  
in the next few days.

Thanks again,
Robin

On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:

> Dear Robin,
>
> Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet  
> Access/Cybercafe Ecosystem"
> Comment Close: 17 November 2012
> Reply Close: 17 December 2012
>
> How do you propose that the EC members work on this item? Does each  
> EC member share his/her view soonest to the EC list?
>
> Cheers, Alain
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Date: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:27 PM
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments Needing  
> Volunteers Now
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>
>
> Dear All:
>
> NCSG has a new calendar to help keep track of important meetings,  
> deadlines, key comment periods, etc.  Check it out here:
>    https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Calendar
>
> Also see ICANN Comments open:
>    http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment
>
> Below are 4 open comment periods that NCSG should submit a comment  
> on to ICANN before the final deadlines.  It would be great if we  
> could get a small team of NCSG members to work together on drafting  
> a comment for each issue below.  Of course people are always  
> encouraged to send in their own personal comment, irrespective of  
> any group comment.
>
> Are there any volunteers for members who would like to form a  
> drafting team for any of the issues below?  I'm sure the NCSG  
> Policy Committees can provide some guidance on these issues and  
> NCSG perspectives as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> ISSUE:					
>
> Trademark Clearinghouse Documents
> Comment Closed:  15 October
> Reply Close:  7 November 2012
>
> Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross  
> Names (RCRC) Drafting Team ? Recommendations  	
> Comment Closed
> Reply Close: 9 November 2012
>
> Community Input Draft 2013-2016 Strategic Plan
> Comment Close:  13 November 2012
> Reply Close:  4 December 2012
>
> Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet  
> Access/Cybercafe Ecosystem"
> Comment Close: 17 November 2012
> Reply Close: 17 December 2012
>
>
>
>
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From robin  Fri Nov  2 05:55:05 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:55:05 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Chair's Notes from 17 November NCSG EC Meeting in Toronto
Message-ID: <84E8915E-5ADF-420A-8949-36D38C0E0BEE@ipjustice.org>

FYI:
Chair?s Notes from 17 October 2012 NCSG Executive Committee Meeting

Toronto ? ICANN #45

Attendance at Meeting:
  NCSG Chair Robin Gross
  NCSG Executive Committee Members: Alain Berranger, Rafik Dammak,  
Milton Mueller
  NCSG Observers: Brenden Kuerbis, Klaus Stoll, Marie-Laure Lemineur,  
Eduardo Monge

Rough Transcript:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/37193524/ 
Transcript_NCSG_EXCOM-2012-17-Oct.doc? 
version=1&modificationDate=1350949049000

Audio Recording of Meeting:
https://icann.box.com/shared/static/jtl9b6yb0o7hc1h1a4qj.mp3

Chair?s Notes of Decisions Taken & Action Items

1.  Clarify Process to Join NCSG

(a)  Add complete description of process to join NCSG on website  
including eligibility requirements (Milton & Klaus volunteered to  
draft text)

(b)  Potential members can send an email to < join-ncsg at ipjustice.org  
 > get a link to the online form: https://community.icann.org/display/ 
gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application

(c)  Need staff support with website and administrative matters &  
staff assistance needed with better use of GNSO NCSG website

(d)  Make NCSG membership form more visible:
-       NCSG wiki, GNSO website, constituency websites

(e)  Constituencies should state on their website the process for  
joining is by filling out online membership application and include a  
link to the online form.

(f)  Step one for joining NCSG is to fill-out the online NCSG  
membership form.  Applicants should join NCSG before joining 0, 1, 2,  
or 3 constituencies within NCSG.

(g)  NCSG EC Members all agreed to evaluate all pending membership  
applications in the next week and vote on EC email list.

(h)  NCSG EC resolved all pending decisions regarding membership  
questions and now needs to move toward the implementation of the  
decisions taken at the Toronto meeting.

2.  Fixes Needed to Online Membership Application Form

(a)  Include full name of organizations and acronym for easier  
understanding

(b)  Reword question on how funded to include explanation of why  
needed and what is not needed and that the info will remain  
confidential.

(c)  Remove confusing references to individual constituencies in NCSG  
form


3.  Issue of Cyber-Caf? Constituency Application

(a)  NCSG Working Group is being set-up to evaluate the application  
and make a recommendation on it.  NCSG will reach its decision by  
first week of January 2013.  All NCSG members welcome to participate.

(b)  Klaus has conducted significant research and previously  
published a paper on cyber-cafes that is relevant to this discussion.

(c)  Straw poll of EC members indicated preliminary view of CC was  
that it more properly belonged applying to CSG.







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From robin  Fri Nov  2 06:05:37 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:05:37 -0700
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Chair's Notes from 17 OCTOBER NCSG EC Meeting in
	Toronto
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Ooops - apologies for wrong month in previous subject line  ... this  
is from OCTOBER 17 2012.

On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Robin Gross wrote:

> FYI:
> Chair?s Notes from 17 October 2012 NCSG Executive Committee Meeting
>
> Toronto ? ICANN #45
>
> Attendance at Meeting:
>  NCSG Chair Robin Gross
>  NCSG Executive Committee Members: Alain Berranger, Rafik Dammak,  
> Milton Mueller
>  NCSG Observers: Brenden Kuerbis, Klaus Stoll, Marie-Laure  
> Lemineur, Eduardo Monge
>
> Rough Transcript:
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/37193524/ 
> Transcript_NCSG_EXCOM-2012-17-Oct.doc? 
> version=1&modificationDate=1350949049000
>
> Audio Recording of Meeting:
> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/jtl9b6yb0o7hc1h1a4qj.mp3
>
> Chair?s Notes of Decisions Taken & Action Items
>
> 1.  Clarify Process to Join NCSG
>
> (a)  Add complete description of process to join NCSG on website  
> including eligibility requirements (Milton & Klaus volunteered to  
> draft text)
>
> (b)  Potential members can send an email to < join- 
> ncsg at ipjustice.org > get a link to the online form: https:// 
> community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application
>
> (c)  Need staff support with website and administrative matters &  
> staff assistance needed with better use of GNSO NCSG website
>
> (d)  Make NCSG membership form more visible:
> -       NCSG wiki, GNSO website, constituency websites
>
> (e)  Constituencies should state on their website the process for  
> joining is by filling out online membership application and include  
> a link to the online form.
>
> (f)  Step one for joining NCSG is to fill-out the online NCSG  
> membership form.  Applicants should join NCSG before joining 0, 1,  
> 2, or 3 constituencies within NCSG.
>
> (g)  NCSG EC Members all agreed to evaluate all pending membership  
> applications in the next week and vote on EC email list.
>
> (h)  NCSG EC resolved all pending decisions regarding membership  
> questions and now needs to move toward the implementation of the  
> decisions taken at the Toronto meeting.
>
> 2.  Fixes Needed to Online Membership Application Form
>
> (a)  Include full name of organizations and acronym for easier  
> understanding
>
> (b)  Reword question on how funded to include explanation of why  
> needed and what is not needed and that the info will remain  
> confidential.
>
> (c)  Remove confusing references to individual constituencies in  
> NCSG form
>
>
> 3.  Issue of Cyber-Caf? Constituency Application
>
> (a)  NCSG Working Group is being set-up to evaluate the application  
> and make a recommendation on it.  NCSG will reach its decision by  
> first week of January 2013.  All NCSG members welcome to participate.
>
> (b)  Klaus has conducted significant research and previously  
> published a paper on cyber-cafes that is relevant to this discussion.
>
> (c)  Straw poll of EC members indicated preliminary view of CC was  
> that it more properly belonged applying to CSG.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
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From alain.berranger  Fri Nov  2 17:19:30 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:19:30 -0400
Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes &
	comments
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Dear all,

I have completed my second round of due diligence below except for British
Red Cross, INTIC4DEV and TaC (All NPOC recruits, must be a coincidence!),
for which I am awaiting responses to your queries. I will revert soonest I
have received responses from these three above. I notice Robin and Milton
that you express doubts about British Red Cross but approve some individual
memberships without knowing zip about them... should we not ask about a
short statement of interest rather than a pre-cooked statement?

Alain

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have added my comments below from memory.... the google docs link in
> Robin's originating email is failing me... I have asked Robin for an
> alternate url route.... I will revert quickly as soon as I can access the
> applications. Thks in advance
>
> Alain
>
> PS - my name spells Alain Berranger (2 r's)... I have corrected where
> necessary...
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>wrote:
>
>>  ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *PENDING NCSG MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS*****
>>
>>
>> *ORGANIZATIONS:*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *1.  National Council for Voluntary Organisations<http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk>
>> *****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Robin Gross voted to approve.****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *2.  British Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org.uk>*****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or
>> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial
>> civil society organization.  Need further inquiry and clarification from
>> organization.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin****
>>
>> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for
>> clarification..awaiting clarification 2012-11-02**
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *3.  INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement<http://www.intic4dev.com>
>> *****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is
>> in French).  But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex :
>> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial
>> organizations.  Would like further information and input on commercial ties
>> of organization.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an
>> inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the
>> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However,
>> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit,
>> advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you
>> vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification
>> programs for profit, or run on advertising?
>>
> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior
> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit
> like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on
> NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting
> NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of
> NCSG. I will raise your concerns... APPROVED in principle 2012-11-02 but
> awaiting clarification request from Robin and Milton... let's also see what
> Milton's enquiry gives...
>
>>  ** **
>>
>> *4.  Bytes for All, Pakistan* <http://www.bytesforall.pk>****
>>
>> Robin Gross voted to approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but
>> there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit
>> as I do not recall NPOC initiating this contact... if not for profit status
>> is confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *5.  REPAOC <http://www.repaoc.org>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete.  Did not answer questions
>> about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure recruited
>> this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC. Robin, you may
>> know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with Marie-laure et al **
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *6.  Sorites Dot Biz* <http://www.sorites.biz>* *****
>>
>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete.  Did not answer questions
>> about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT****
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can find
>> no information anywhere about this organization, and it is registered under
>> a commercial domain (.biz)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *7.  Fondazione Rosselli Americas* <http://www.fondazionerosselli.it>****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this
>> applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his
>> time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank.*
>> *
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *8.  TaC-Together against Cybercrime International*<http://www.againstcybercrime.eu>
>> ****
>>
>> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences.  Not
>> clear who is behind this, nor how funded.  Need further inquiry.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi
>> referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well
>>  before we decide which way to go.... tend to approve but will await
>> response from Julia... 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia
>> Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies
>> for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted
>> to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *9.  Movimento Mega Nao* <http://meganao.wordpress.com>****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... APPROVED 2012-11-02*
>> *
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* <http://us-ignite.org/>****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto
>> that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *INDIVIDUALS:*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *1.  Benjamin Farrand*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application.... APPROVE 2012-11-02*
>> *
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *2.  Edamwen Anthony* ****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton.... should we not know more about
>> this person than what we have? NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the
>> application? ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *3.  Niel Harper <http://www.octavegroupbb.com>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... wait for a working
>> url.... NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied
>> doesn?t work****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *4.  Stefania Milan <http://www.stefaniamilan.net>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application.... APPROVE...
>> 2012-11-02****
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *5.  Staffon Jonson <http://www.pallarn.se>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application...domain name url...
>> can we be sure it is? NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the
>> application? ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *6.  Denise Brunsdon <http://www.brunsdon.com>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... brunsdon.com is a
>> commercial website... NOT APPROVED....2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know Denise
>> Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *7.  Walusungu Gondwe*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... am no fan of clause
>> 3 and would prefer U. of Malawi to be applicant... APPROVE 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *8.  Tobias Mahler*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application.... Applicant linked
>> to Norwegian Research Center for Computers and Law (Norwegian: Senter for
>> rettsinformatikk) at the Faculty of Law, University of Oslo ...APPROVE
>> ...2012-11-02
>>
>> **
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *9.  John Border*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>> more information 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....need more information****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *10.  Sarah Clayton*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>> more information 2012-11-02
>>
> Rafik Damak .....
>>
>> **
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....need more information****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *11.  Anton Permadi <http://www.permadi.org>*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>> more information, nothing on website 2012-11-02**
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *12.  Olga Korotvova*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application...what is ELSA? NOT
>> APPROVED until more information 2012-11-02****
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *13.  Anthony Nweke*****
>>
>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>
>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application..NOT APPROVED until
>> more information 2012-11-02****
>>
>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ---- END ----****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> IP JUSTICE****
>>
>> Robin Gross, Executive Director****
>>
>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA****
>>
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>>
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From alain.berranger  Fri Nov  2 22:51:34 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:51:34 -0400
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Chair's Notes from 17 OCTOBER NCSG EC Meeting in
	Toronto
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Thanks Robin,

Re 1. (c) I think you also indicated that you would draft a letter to ICANN
to request website and administration support. I also understood that
membership application follow up would be included in this support, in
order to allow EC members to focus on policy, events, recruiting,  due
diligence and other non-administrative/executive functions.

Best, Alain

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Ooops - apologies for wrong month in previous subject line  ... this is
> from OCTOBER 17 2012.
>
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
> FYI:
>
> *Chair?s Notes from 17 October 2012 NCSG Executive Committee Meeting*
>
> Toronto ? ICANN #45
> Attendance at Meeting:****
>  NCSG Chair Robin Gross
>  NCSG Executive Committee Members: Alain Berranger, Rafik Dammak, Milton
> Mueller
>  NCSG Observers: Brenden Kuerbis, Klaus Stoll, Marie-Laure Lemineur,
> Eduardo Monge
>  ****
> Rough Transcript:
>
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/37193524/Transcript_NCSG_EXCOM-2012-17-Oct.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1350949049000
> ****
>  ****
> Audio Recording of Meeting:****
> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/jtl9b6yb0o7hc1h1a4qj.mp3****
>  ****
> *Chair?s Notes of Decisions Taken & Action Items*
>  ****
> *1.  Clarify Process to Join NCSG*
>  ****
> (a)  Add complete description of process to join NCSG on website
> including eligibility requirements (Milton & Klaus volunteered to draft
> text)
>  ****
> (b)  Potential members can send an email to < join-ncsg at ipjustice.org >
> get a link to the online form:
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application
>  ****
> (c)  Need staff support with website and administrative matters & staff
> assistance needed with better use of GNSO NCSG website
>   ****
> (d)  Make NCSG membership form more visible:
>
> -       NCSG wiki, GNSO website, constituency websites
> (e)  Constituencies should state on their website the process for joining
> is by filling out online membership application and include a link to the
> online form.
>  ****
> (f)  Step one for joining NCSG is to fill-out the online NCSG membership
> form.  Applicants should join NCSG before joining 0, 1, 2, or 3
> constituencies within NCSG.
>  ****
> (g)  NCSG EC Members all agreed to evaluate all pending membership
> applications in the next week and vote on EC email list.
>  ****
> (h)  NCSG EC resolved all pending decisions regarding membership
> questions and now needs to move toward the implementation of the decisions
> taken at the Toronto meeting.
>  ****
> *2.  Fixes Needed to Online Membership Application Form*
>  ****
> (a)  Include full name of organizations and acronym for easier
> understanding
>  ****
> (b)  Reword question on how funded to include explanation of why needed
> and what is not needed and that the info will remain confidential.
>  ****
> (c)  Remove confusing references to individual constituencies in NCSG form
>  ****
>  ****
> *3.  Issue of Cyber-Caf? Constituency Application *
>  ****
> (a)  NCSG Working Group is being set-up to evaluate the application and
> make a recommendation on it.  NCSG will reach its decision by first week
> of January 2013.  All NCSG members welcome to participate.
>  ****
> (b)  Klaus has conducted significant research and previously published a
> paper on cyber-cafes that is relevant to this discussion.
>  ****
> (c)  Straw poll of EC members indicated preliminary view of CC was that
> it more properly belonged applying to CSG.
>
>
>
>
>
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From alain.berranger  Sat Nov  3 17:27:27 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:27:27 -0400
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments
 Needing Volunteers Now
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Dear Robin,

Thanks for heads-up. I will volunteer on this temporary working group - so
please count me in - is this email sufficient to get on the working group?

I was a co-founder in the 90's of telecentre.org, with Rob Robertson and
Richard Fuchs. It is a global network  of telecentres - see
http://www.telecentre.org/ . I was then with IDRC in Ottawa -
http://www.idrc.ca/ , an the network was created in partnership with the
Swiss Development Agency and Microsoft Community Affairs - it was a very
big initiative and started with a $20 million budget. It has since been
devolved from IDRC to a Foundation headquartered in The Philippines.

I have visited many telecentres in the developing world and their impact on
underserviced communities in reducing the digital divide is invaluable. The
most memorable visits for me were in very remote areas of Lao PDR and
Mozambique. Telecentres are usually located in schools, health clinics,
community centres of various kinds and are by definition a not-for-profit
social service. When a "public internet access point" (PIAP) is ran as a
for-profit entity, it is often referred to as a cyber-caf?, again talking
about the developing world (cyber-caf?s are often located in very modest
"facilities" and in great numbers in urban or peri-urban areas of large
cities - I visited my first one in Dakar). Since the mobile phone has
invaded the developing world, cyber caf?s have become less important.

You have already noted that Klaus is very experienced in telecentres, in
Latin America notably, where he co-founded Somos Telecentro - see
http://www.tele-centros.org/ . I think he has already volunteered. I have a
copy of his paper co-authored with Michel Menou from the University College
London, if Klaus, travelling intensely right now, has not had time to send
it to you.

That's it for now.

Best, Alain

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Alain.
>
> We have taken volunteers from the NCSG membership to set-up a working
> group to evaluate this application in detail and then this working group
> sends its recommendation to the EC.
>
> I've asked Glen to please set up a dedicated temporary email discussion
> list so the working group can get started focusing on this application.
>  Hopefully that will be ready to go in a couple days.  This working group
> would also be best positioned to guide the membership on a response during
> the comment period as well.  Of course any one can file a comment at any
> time on this issue (or any issue for which there is an open comment
> period).  I only mentioned as one of the possible open comment periods that
> would be of general interest to the membership.  But I do think the
> internal working group should lead on these discussions and hope that will
> be underway in the next few days.
>
> Thanks again,
> Robin
>
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> Dear Robin,
>
> *Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet
> Access/Cybercafe Ecosystem"*
> *Comment Close: 17 November 2012 *
> *Reply Close: 17 December 2012*
>
> How do you propose that the EC members work on this item? Does each EC
> member share his/her view soonest to the EC list?
>
> Cheers, Alain
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> Date: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:27 PM
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Calendar and Open Comments Needing Volunteers
> Now
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>
>
> Dear All:
>
> NCSG has a new calendar to help keep track of important meetings,
> deadlines, key comment periods, etc.  Check it out here:
>    https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Calendar
>
> Also see ICANN Comments open:
>    http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment
>
> Below are 4 open comment periods that NCSG should submit a comment on to
> ICANN before the final deadlines.  It would be great if we could get a
> small team of NCSG members to work together on drafting a comment for each
> issue below.  Of course people are always encouraged to send in their own
> personal comment, irrespective of any group comment.
>
> Are there any volunteers for members who would like to form a drafting
> team for any of the issues below?  I'm sure the NCSG Policy Committees can
> provide some guidance on these issues and NCSG perspectives as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> *ISSUE:*
>
> Trademark Clearinghouse Documents<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/tmch-docs-24sep12-en.htm>
> Comment Closed:  15 October
> Reply Close:  7 November 2012
>
> Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names
> (RCRC) Drafting Team ? Recommendations<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep12-en.htm>
>
> Comment Closed
> Reply Close: 9 November 2012
>
> Community Input Draft 2013-2016 Strategic Plan <http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/stratplan-draft-2013-24sep12-en.htm>
> Comment Close:  13 November 2012
> Reply Close:  4 December 2012
>
> Application for New GNSO Constituency Candidacy-"Public Internet
> Access/Cybercafe Ecosystem"<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/afc-ccaoi-piacc-10oct12-en.htm>
> Comment Close: 17 November 2012
> Reply Close: 17 December 2012
>
>
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From rafik.dammak  Mon Nov 19 18:00:34 2012
From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:00:34 +0900
Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes &
	comments
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Hello ,

please find my comments below,

  ** **
>>>
>>> *1.  National Council for Voluntary Organisations<http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....approve for NCSG membership**
>>>
>>> Robin Gross voted to approve.****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *2.  British Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org.uk>*****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or
>>> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial
>>> civil society organization.  Need further inquiry and clarification from
>>> organization.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak pending clarification
>>>
>>  ****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin****
>>>
>>> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for
>>> clarification..awaiting clarification 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *3.  INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement<http://www.intic4dev.com>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is
>>> in French).  But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex :
>>> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial
>>> organizations.  Would like further information and input on commercial ties
>>> of organization.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... as IT pro I am aware about the cost of the training
>>> provided for certifications, and reading the "about" of the website
>>> (claiming that the sponsor is the founder's company) and checking about
>>> funding description in the application (sponsored by ICT entreprises and
>>> members fees), I find some discrepancy . a clarification regarding will be
>>> welcome**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an
>>> inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the
>>> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However,
>>> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a for-profit,
>>> advertising supported entity that offers free learning. Alain, can you
>>> vouch that they are nonprofit, or do they sell these training certification
>>> programs for profit, or run on advertising?
>>>
>> Alain Berranger - I know Olivier Kouami... He is an ICT4D senior
>> Consultant in his private practice and heads up this NGO on the side (A bit
>> like you Robin with your own practice and IPjustice). He is a volunteer on
>> NPOC's Program Committee and in charge of facilitating the recruiting
>> NGOs/NFPs in francophone Africa, so he understands wlll the NFP criteria of
>> NCSG. I will raise your concerns... APPROVED in principle 2012-11-02 but
>> awaiting clarification request from Robin and Milton... let's also see what
>> Milton's enquiry gives...
>>
>>>   ** **
>>>
>>> *4.  Bytes for All, Pakistan* <http://www.bytesforall.pk>****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross voted to approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... it says B4A is a legally registered entity but
>>> there is no proof it is not for profit... I imagine this is an NCUC recruit
>>> as I do not recall NPOC initiating this contact... if not for profit status
>>> is confirmed, I would approve for NCUC membership
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....Approve ****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *5.  REPAOC <http://www.repaoc.org>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete.  Did not answer questions
>>> about how funded, etc. and website is all in French language.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. Marie-laure
>>> recruited this applicant via Guy Aho Tete Benissan, the ED of REPAOC.
>>> Robin, you may know him via pir.org where he is on the IAB with
>>> Marie-laure et al **
>>>
>>> Rafik Damak ..... pending approve if they complete the missed
>>> information (understanding from the website that their network of NGOs from
>>> some african countries)**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE a network of NGOs in Africa****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *6.  Sorites Dot Biz* <http://www.sorites.biz>* *****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross notes application is incomplete.  Did not answer questions
>>> about mission, how funded, etc. and website contains no content.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... REJECT****
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... REJECT**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....REJECT. There is nothing on the web site, I can
>>> find no information anywhere about this organisation, and it is registered
>>> under a commercial domain (.biz)****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *7.  Fondazione Rosselli Americas* <http://www.fondazionerosselli.it>***
>>> *
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... APPROVE for NPOC membership. I recruited this
>>> applicant through Danilo Piaggesi, its ED and a long time friend from his
>>> time with the Italian government and the Interamerican Development Bank.
>>> **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....the website is for the fondazioni rosselli in Italy
>>> while this application is for the branch in America . while I guess there
>>> is no membership ,there is mention of some private sector there. a
>>> clarification about the structure will be welcome**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *8.  TaC-Together against Cybercrime International*<http://www.againstcybercrime.eu>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross notes website content amounts to a total of 5 sentences.
>>>  Not clear who is behind this, nor how funded.  Need further inquiry.***
>>> *
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... given she spoked to Fadi in Budapest and Fadi
>>> referred her to NCSG, we need to complete due diligence particularely well
>>>  before we decide which way to go.... tend to approve but will await
>>> response from Julia... 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Damak .....waiting for clarification**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....It seems to be a one-person organization, Julia
>>> Morenets, who is associated with Council of Europe. Not sure it qualifies
>>> for NPOC, actually, as I see no operational activities, but if she wanted
>>> to join NCSG as an individual member I would see no problem.  ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *9.  Movimento Mega Nao* <http://meganao.wordpress.com>****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... APPROVED 2012-11-02
>>> **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *10. US-Ignite (reconsideration)* <http://us-ignite.org/>****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger voted to Approve.... applicant rep claimed in Toronto
>>> that NPOC had rejected this applicant which is not true**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *INDIVIDUALS:*****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *1.  Benjamin Farrand*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application.... APPROVE 2012-11-02
>>> **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *2.  Edamwen Anthony* ****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... same as Milton.... should we not know more about
>>> this person than what we have? NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....waiting for clairification**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the
>>> application? ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *3.  Niel Harper <http://www.octavegroupbb.com>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... wait for a working
>>> url.... NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....clarification about the url**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE, but note that the URL we were supplied
>>> doesn?t work****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *4.  Stefania Milan <http://www.stefaniamilan.net>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application.... APPROVE...
>>> 2012-11-02****
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *5.  Staffon Jonson <http://www.pallarn.se>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application...domain name url...
>>> can we be sure it is? NOT APPROVED 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve pending verifying the domain**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller ..... .....?? cant find any information. Can I see the
>>> application? ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *6.  Denise Brunsdon <http://www.brunsdon.com>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... brunsdon.com is a
>>> commercial website... NOT APPROVED....2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....the domain is not working at all (maybe expired),
>>> pending functioning url**
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....why does this name link to an ad site? I know
>>> Denise Brunsdon so APPROVE, but who in the heck created this link?****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *7.  Walusungu Gondwe*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... am no fan of clause
>>> 3 and would prefer U. of Malawi to be applicant... APPROVE 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *8.  Tobias Mahler*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger .....need to see the application.... Applicant linked
>>> to Norwegian Research Center for Computers and Law (Norwegian: Senter for
>>> rettsinformatikk) at the Faculty of Law, University of Oslo ...APPROVE
>>> ...2012-11-02
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *9.  John Border*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>>> more information 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... idem****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....need more information****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *10.  Sarah Clayton*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>>> more information 2012-11-02
>>>
>>  Rafik Dammak .....idem
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....need more information****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *11.  Anton Permadi <http://www.permadi.org>*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application... NOT APPROVED until
>>> more information, nothing on website 2012-11-02**
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak ..... approve****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPOVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *12.  Olga Korotvova*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application...what is ELSA? NOT
>>> APPROVED until more information 2012-11-02****
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak .....****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *13.  Anthony Nweke*****
>>>
>>> Robin Gross votes to Approve.****
>>>
>>> Alain Berranger ..... need to see the application..NOT APPROVED until
>>> more information 2012-11-02****
>>>
>>> Rafik Damak .....****
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
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From alain.berranger  Tue Nov 20 06:16:53 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:16:53 -0500
Subject: [EC-NCSG] pending NCSG membership applications - votes &
	comments
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Rafik, ....your response only a month late! Not impressed! ... Cintra, re
ISOC-TT I appreciate your patience, so for the record I re-approve..getting
tired of this feet  dragging by NCSG-EC.... Not impressed, again!

Alain

On Monday, November 19, 2012, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:

> Thanks Rafik,
>
> Please also note and respond to Robin's email of 29 October in which she
> requests inclusion of and states:
>
> For the record, I vote to APPROVE the membership application from ISOC-TT.
>
> Milton .....
> Alain .....
> Rafik .....
>
> How do other NCSG-EC members vote on this application?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Cintra Sooknanan
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rafik.dammak at gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello ,
>>
>> please find my comments below,
>>
>>   ** **
>>
>> *1.  National Council for Voluntary Organisations<http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk>
>> *****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership**
>>
>> Rafik Dammak .....approve for NCSG membership**
>>
>> Robin Gross voted to approve.****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....APPROVE****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *2.  British Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org.uk>*****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Robin Gross has questions as to whether the organization is part of (or
>> chartered under) governmental authority and not independent noncommercial
>> civil society organization.  Need further inquiry and clarification from
>> organization.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rafik Dammak pending clarification
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Milton Mueller .....same as Robin****
>>
>> ** Alain Berranger: seems like a no brainer to me, but I will ask for
>> clarification..awaiting clarification 2012-11-02**
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *3.  INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le d?veloppement<http://www.intic4dev.com>
>> *****
>>
>> Alain Berranger voted to approve for NPOC membership.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Robin Gross is unable to evaluate the organization (since its website is
>> in French).  But I notice a bunch of company names of the website, ex :
>> Microsoft, Cisco, etc. so I wonder if it is mainly funded by commercial
>> organizations.  Would like further information and input on commercial ties
>> of organization.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rafik Dammak ..... as IT pro I am aware about the cost of the training
>> provided for certifications, and reading the "about" of the website
>> (claiming that the sponsor is the founder's company) and checking about
>> funding description in the application (sponsored by ICT entreprises and
>> members fees), I find some discrepancy . a clarification regarding will be
>> welcome**
>>
>> Milton Mueller ..... Tending to approve, however I am unsure. I have an
>> inquiry out to someone from Togo. The company names come from the
>> certification programs they run, so there is nothing wrong there. However,
>> they mention that Alison.com is a partner, and Alison.com is a f
>>
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>>
>>
>

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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
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From robin  Tue Nov 27 01:05:01 2012
From: robin (Robin Gross)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:05:01 -0800
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: Beijing travel support
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Dear NCSG Exec Cmte:

As you may be aware, the NCSG Exec Cmte has three ICANN travel  
allocations for the Beijing meeting in April.  This means the NCSG-EC  
Chair and an NCSG-EC representative from both NCUC and NPOC each are  
allocated a travel slot for Beijing.

Alain, will you be using NPOC's NCSG-EC travel allocation for Beijing?

Milton or Rafik, which of you will use NCUC's NCSG-EC travel  
allocation for Beijing?

Thank you,
Robin


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Date: November 21, 2012 2:16:27 PM PST
> To: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, "David Cake  
> (dave at difference.com.au) (dave at difference.com.au)"  
> <dave at difference.com.au>, Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
> Subject: Beijing travel support
>
> Dear Robin,
>
> In order to meet the travel and hotel deadline for the ICANN  
> meetings in Beijing, would you please be so kind as to  let me have  
> the names of your constituency/stakeholder group members and the  
> level of support that they should receive for the Toronto  
> meetings.   This includes the slots for the ?Councillors? and the  
> three (3) additional FY13 slots for the NCSG executive, three (3)  
> additional FY13 slots for the NCUC, three (3) additional FY13 slots  
> for the NPOC
>
> Please let me have your information no later than 12 December 2012.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Kind regards,
>
> Glen
>
>
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> http://gnso.icann.org
>




IP JUSTICE
Robin Gross, Executive Director
1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
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From alain.berranger  Tue Nov 27 01:09:08 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:09:08 -0500
Subject: [EC-NCSG] Fwd: Beijing travel support
In-Reply-To: <21F53CF3-E09D-4513-9D2D-42DD52E1D3D2@ipjustice.org>
References: <C4B5E5D7461AB54B875986D2919CBB5FD1FD84C099@EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org>
	<21F53CF3-E09D-4513-9D2D-42DD52E1D3D2@ipjustice.org>
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Dear Robin,

Thanks for the consultation.
Yes, I will be using NPOC's NCSG-EC travel allocation for Beijing.
Best, Alain

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Dear NCSG Exec Cmte:
>
> As you may be aware, the NCSG Exec Cmte has three ICANN travel allocations
> for the Beijing meeting in April.  This means the NCSG-EC Chair and an
> NCSG-EC representative from both NCUC and NPOC each are allocated a travel
> slot for Beijing.
>
> Alain, will you be using NPOC's NCSG-EC travel allocation for Beijing?
>
> Milton or Rafik, which of you will use NCUC's NCSG-EC travel allocation
> for Beijing?
>
> Thank you,
> Robin
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> *Date: *November 21, 2012 2:16:27 PM PST
> *To: *Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, "David Cake (
> dave at difference.com.au) (dave at difference.com.au)" <dave at difference.com.au>,
> Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
> *Subject: **Beijing travel support*
>
> Dear Robin,****
> ** **
> In order to meet the travel and hotel deadline for the ICANN meetings in
> Beijing, would you please be so kind as to  let me have the names of your
> constituency/stakeholder group members and the level of support that they
> should receive for the Toronto meetings.   This includes the slots for the
> ?Councillors? and the three (3) additional FY13 slots for the NCSG
> executive, three (3) additional FY13 slots for the NCUC, three (3)
> additional FY13 slots for the NPOC****
> ** **
>
> Please let me have your information no later than 12 December 2012.  ****
> Thank you very much.****
> Kind regards,****
> ** **
> Glen****
> ** **
> ** **
> Glen de Saint G?ry****
> GNSO Secretariat****
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org****
> http://gnso.icann.org****
> ** **
>
>
>
>
>
> IP JUSTICE
> Robin Gross, Executive Director
> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger


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From alain.berranger  Thu Nov 29 00:45:50 2012
From: alain.berranger (Alain Berranger)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:45:50 -0500
Subject: [EC-NCSG] TaC membership application to NCSG and NPOC
In-Reply-To: <PYl5lPeI.1351895343.1470390.y.morenets@againstcybercrime.eu>
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	<PYl5lPeI.1351895343.1470390.y.morenets@againstcybercrime.eu>
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Dear Colleagues,

Here is additional info from Yuliya Morenets for the NCSG membership
application of TaC.
I have asked her to send in a copy  of TaC statuts under French legislation
attesting to their NFP status.
She will let me know when the TaC website is up and running.

With this additional information I APPROVE this application for NCSG
membership and confirm TaC is PRE-APPROVED by NPOC conditional on NCSG
approval.

Best, Alain

2012/11/2 Yuliya Morenets <y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu>

> Cher Alain,
>
> Merci encore pour votre message et mes excuses pour l'information
> pr?sente sur le site.
>
> Nous sommes en train de le refaire et donc en effet il y'a juste un bout
> de quelque chose en ligne.
>
> La nouvelle version compl?te devra voir le jour apr?s IGF 2012 et avant
> fin novembre 2012.
>
> En attendant toute l'information sur nos activit?s est disponible sur
> notre page facebook:
>
> http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/TaC-Together-against-Cybercrime/316202644717
>
> J'esp?re que ceci d?montre largement que nos activit?s sont sans but
> commercial.
>
> Nous pourrions ?galement envoyer nos statuts qui tous simplement
> interdisent, d'apr?s la l?gislation fran?aise sous laquelle nous sommes
> enregistr?s de proc?der ? des activit?s d'ordre commercial.
>
> Je vous envoie ?galement les sites web de nos deux projets:
>
> 1. www.vulnerables.eu
>
> 2. www.youthigf.com
>
>
> Afin de compl?ter cet envoie je joins ? ce courriel notre pr?sentation.
>
> Dans l'espoir que cette information pourra apporter davantage
> d'?claircissements et dans l'attente de notre site,
>
> Mes excuses encore et merci,
> Cordialement, Yuliya Morenets
>
>
>
> Le 2/11/2012, "Alain Berranger" <alain.berranger at gmail.com> a ?crit:
>
> >Ch?re Yuliya,
> >
> >Je vous remercie de l'application de TaC pour devenir membre de NCSG puis
> >de NPOC. Tel que vous l'avez possiblement mentionn? Monsieur Fadi Chehad?
> ?
> >Budapest, pour devenir membre de NPOC, il faut d'abord devenir membre de
> >NCSG.
> >
> >Le comit? d'examen du NCSG analyse pr?sentement votre application et a
> >quelques questions:
> >
> >Votre website est tr?s succinct. On ne peut saisir qui compose votre
> >organisation. On ne peut ?valuer si vous d?chargez votre mission de fa?on
> >non-commerciale.
> >
> >Je vous demande donc svp d'?toffer votre application par retour de ce
> >courriel ? votre convenance.
> >
> >Merci de votre collaboration,
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> >Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
> >http://www.ceci.ca<
> http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
> >Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
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