[EC-NCSG] Fwd: NPOC membership issues
Robin Gross
robin
Thu Jun 28 18:42:25 EEST 2012
Alain,
Please remember to use this list for this discussion.
Thank you,
Robin
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: NPOC membership issues
> Date: June 26, 2012 3:33:52 PM PDT
> To: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> Cc: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>, Klaus Stoll <klaus.stoll at gkpfoundation.org>
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> Milton,
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> Noted and thanks. Be reassured, I read what you send you.
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> Best, Alain
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> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Alain,
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> Far from missing it, my first email to you was a response to that message.
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> I refuted those arguments. You make me wonder whether you actually read what I send you. ;-)
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> From: Alain Berranger [mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:18 PM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: Robin Gross; Klaus Stoll
> Subject: NPOC membership issues
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> Milton,
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> You may have missed my email 3 days ago (sent to NCSG -EC at the request of Robin) where I address the substantive issues, precisely by referring to GNSO Operating rules and procedures and NCSG charter.
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> Alain
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Milton L Mueller
> Date: Monday, June 25, 2012
> Subject: NPOC membership issues
> To: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> Cc: "ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>, "Klaus.Stoll" <klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org>
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> I have not chosen this way. The complaint has not been filed by me; it has been made by Jim Bikoff on behalf of 3 pro bono clients
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> [Milton L Mueller] We know that. Bikoff will lose his complaint as his application is not compliant with the NCSG charter and GNSO rules.
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> Why are you defending his false arguments?
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> which NPOC EC wishes to welcome in its Constituency.
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> [Milton L Mueller] Why? Add members at any cost, even if they are not real? We would all appreciate a better explanation of your rationale for accepting ineligible members.
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> NPOC EC members have known for a long time that networks that behave inclusively grow and become robust and sustainable. This is a driving principle for NPOC.
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> [Milton L Mueller] Rules about eligibility by their very nature exclude some. You know as well as I do that there are good reasons for enforcing eligibility requirements in order to maintain the representative, non-captured nature of the NCSG and GNSO.
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> I note that you admit that legacies beyond my control are influencing the way you look at current NPOC membership issues.
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> [Milton L Mueller] I have made no such admission. My examination of current NCSG membership is based entirely on the facts about the charter rules, GNSO rules, and Bikoff?s actual status as a full-fledged member of IPC.
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> Really, Alain, try to respond in substantive terms to the arguments against its eligibility. We would all appreciate it and the dialogue would be more meaningful
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> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
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> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
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> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
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> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> Chair,
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> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> Skype: alain.berranger
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