[EC-NCSG] NCSG membership resgistration

Wed Aug 22 22:47:23 EEST 2012

I agree - we make the form available for perusal, and whatever need the
applicant has, but contimue to request that the online form be used for all
the reasons you mention.

We can discuss our last difference - the funding question - at the NCSG-EC
meeting in Toronto (when is that meeting happening?)

Brenden, I guess it is in your capable hands. Let us know if you need help
from NPOC.

Thanks Robin

Alain

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> I think it is a good idea to have the entire "form" available so people
> can know the contents of it in advance, so a word / pdf / text version is
> great.
>
> I just don't people to fill those out as a substitute for the online form.
>  (Sometimes I can't read people's handwriting when they do this!)  When
> applicants type their own data directly into the database, there is much
> less opportunity for error and misunderstanding.
>
> So I guess anyone could simply write down the questions contained in the
> form and we could post that along side the online form.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> Eduardo,
>
> Yes, unfortunately, there was a break in membership applications when
> leadership changed in both NPOC and NCSG. SO I'm afraid we have to ask NPOC
> "pending" members to "re-apply" using the on-line form. The need for a pdf
> or word format is now established as some applying organizations need to
> get various internal pre-approval before an officer is authorized to fill
> in the on-line form.
>
> I have asked Brenden Kuerbis to be kind enough to make a pdf and/or a word
> NCSG membership application form. This need was also expressed recently by
> The Nature Conservancy (TNC) out of New-Zealand.
>
> Brenden, can this be done, please? Robin, are you OK with this?
>
> Best, Alain
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Eduardo Monge <eduardo.monge at fod.ac.cr>wrote:
>
>> Alain,****
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>> Good.  ****
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>> We need  a    revised  Word  or   PDF  to let our  prospective / pending
>> members  know  what they need to fill out and  attach****
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>> See my message to Lady ..      is her organization still a  pending
>> application ?****
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>> Eduardo****
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>> *De:* owner-npoc at icann.org [mailto:owner-npoc at icann.org] *En nombre de *Alain
>> Berranger
>> *Enviado el:* jueves, 16 de agosto de 2012 11:50 a.m.
>> *Para:* Klaus Stoll
>> *CC:* Jean-Louis ECOCHARD; Robin Gross; Brenden Kuerbis
>> *Asunto:* [npoc] Re: NCSG membership resgistration****
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>> Thanks Klaus,****
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>> Brenden, could you simply make the entire online form also available as a
>> word and/or pdf document? NCUC and NPOC could add them to their
>> websites. Meanwhile, it is very important for NCSG and NPOC to welcome the
>> TNC into its memberships, so maybe the forms could be sent to them right
>> away.****
>>
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>> Robin, on the funding question, since there is no consensus on NCSG-EC,
>> and as it may be illegal (there is some early but informal indications from
>> some ICANN staff that it may just be), I'm of the opinion that it should be
>> removed from the form, until we have a consensus and/or go through a
>> dispute resolution/ombusdman process like for the 3 members currently under
>> dispute. NCSG-EC should probably seek an opinion from ICANN legal folks and
>> I have blind-copied NCSG-EC for the perusal of our other colleagues not on
>> this email stream.****
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>> Best, Alain****
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>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Klaus Stoll <
>> klaus.stoll at gkpfoundation.org> wrote:****
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> Greetings and I hope this email finds you well. Please see the email I
>> received yesterday about the NCSG membership registration form. Please
>> advice how this problem can be addressed.
>>
>> I also want to note that the "How the organizations are funded" question
>> is still included in the form and I want to reiterate that NPOC sees this
>> question a illegitimate and we will continue NPOC potential members to
>> ignore it.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Louis Ecochard
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:23 PM
>> To: Klaus Stoll
>> Subject: Re: Jean Louis? contact information
>>
>> Dear Klaus,
>>
>> This new n=online application (the older one was a word documents) makes
>> it extremely difficult for a large NGO to join as we require internal
>> legal approval and thus need to see the entire document ahead of time.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/12 11:14 AM, "Klaus Stoll" <klaus.stoll at gkpfoundation.org> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> The NCSG membership form can be found at
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application
>>
>> Please make sure that on the second page you opt for NPOC and not NCUC.
>>
>> If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask.
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Klaus ****
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>> --
>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA****
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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