[Ncsg-discuss] A few council issues for your consideration

Wed Nov 19 12:35:17 EET 2025

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Hi Farzaneh,

Thank you very much for this update! This is hugely helpful.

No comment on item 1, your approach looks great to me.

On item 2, agreed on voting yes as unfortunately as you said, the ship has sailed. However, I share your concerns about developing PDPs based almost exclusively on an external report without consultation with all stakeholder groups. Completely agreed these should not run in parallel and supportive of doing a “Representative & Open Model”.

Additionally (and also on DNS abuse) I would want to reiterate the importance of one of the gaps identified by the GNSO Small Group (which was also echoed in the NetBeacon report), on due process. The NetBeacon report had this listed as “Registrant Recourse for DNS Abuse Suspensions,” and we also emphasized in our input to the preliminary issues report that the outcome of any PDP must include clear due process elements. This could be a good topic to propose via the mailing list that Beth is developing.

A final PSA that the public comment summary report<https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/generic-names-supporting-organization-council-gnso-council/pc-report-prelim-issue-report-pdp-dns-abuse-mitigation-17-11-2025-en.pdf> has been published. Do you have a sense @farzaneh badii<mailto:farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM> as to when the GNSO Council will receive the Final Issue Report (if you haven’t already)?

Best,

Michaela

From: NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on behalf of farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wednesday, 19 November 2025 at 07:27
To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Subject: A few council issues for your consideration

Hello NCSG

1. The final council meeting of the year will happen in December. We will vote on a few things. One thing is the RDRS recommendations. We discussed this extensively and we have good language in the recommendations to require the registrar to consider human rights and do an assessment when necessary before disclosing domain name registrant data. We also agreed to look into authentication and accreditation for law enforcement and perhaps a narrower authentication for law enforcement takes place so that it doesn't cost too much. But of course we have consistently said whatever the solution, accountability mechanisms have to be in place. Here is the 90 page report: https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/generic-names-supporting-organization-council-gnso-council/rdrs-sc-council-report-19-08-2025-en.pdf#page=5.48 I recommend we vote yes to these recommendations and perhaps read out a short statement about the importance of privacy and accountability of the requestors.

2. Another important thing is that the council is going to vote on what sort of DNS abuse PDP we should do. From our conversations and our input I suggest voting yes to two PDP tracks that are not running in parallel. It can also operate based on a representative and open model if we don't want to run it based on a solely representative model. (see slide 16: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2025/presentation/dns-abuse-issue-report-13nov25.pdf#page=16.00)
We are going to have two PDPs one on associated domain check and another on API.

There is something concerning about doing PDPs based on one external report and suggestions (I believe both these suggestions were mentioned in one report). Especially when we are not really consulted. But at this point that ship has sailed. We can talk about how to avoid this in the future though. So if that concerns you let me know. (we raised it in our public comment on the issue report)

Best regards,

Farzaneh
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