Statement of Interest discussions - We can do more

[Juan Manuel Rojas]

Dear Kathy,

Thank you for your input. I believe it is crucial for us to place greater emphasis on actively engaging and intervening when necessary. Personally, I am fully committed to do it. As you know, discussions can often veer off in different directions and become trapped in an endless loop.

Regarding the Conflict of Interest you mentioned, I believe the key aspect is understanding how the interests of specific groups or organizations can potentially impact us or steer the course of the discussion to serve their own objectives.

If anyone has any comments or concerns on this matter, I encourage them to voice their thoughts openly so that we can address them within the Task Force.

Best regards,

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Director - MINKA DIGITAL ColombiaNPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
Founding member - ISOC Colombia
Master IT candidate, UNAD
Registered Linux User No.533108.

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    El martes, 30 de mayo de 2023, 09:45:43 a. m. GMT-5, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> escribió:  
 
  
Hi Wisdom and Juan,
 
I'm returning to our discussion last week about the Statements of internet (SOI). Of course, as Chair, Manju must be neutral. But Juan and Wisdom, you do not have to be. You are advocates for the needs and concerns of NCSG, and there are many on this issue! 
 
 
As you know from our written comments and discussion online, NCSG **wants open and public disclosure of who you work for when you are negotiating ICANN policy; it is the right of other people in the room (us for example) to know who we are negotiating with and on whose interests (big, small, commercial, noncommercial, name) someone seeks to advance.** 
 
 
There is nothing new about this type of policy disclosure in any policy proceeding I know.  It is very, very, very unusual to come before a regulatory agency and NOT share who you are submitting your comment for - what company or entity.  Law firms almost never submit comments in policy proceeding for themselves - they are paid to submit them for others and the disclosure those clients.  
 
 
I have to tell you that I am not happy with the current compromise.  It changes things a little, but not enough (IMHO).  I have been negotiating ICANN policy for too many years in Policy Development Process working groups and other task forces where I get the funny feeling that many people in the room (lawyers and consultants) work for the same company, but have not disclosed.  I would like them to disclose - in full.  It's fair, it's right and its standard practice in other forums.  
 
 
It's not a violation of ethics rules for lawyers, and we (NCSG) have given examples in our written comments.
 
 
Wisdom, Juan, how can you/we fight more for our NCSG position?   How to we push this process to reveal more?  It would help us a lot in the future!
 
 
Best and tx, Kathy
 
 -------------------- On 5/23/2023 4:50 AM, Wisdom Donkor wrote:
  
 
Hello Julf, I do agree with Manju. Whatever conclusions are agreed upon with the proposal, we will share the outcome with the rest of the CCOICI members. Regards,  
                     Wisdom Donkor (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,) President & CEO Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC) P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | www.aodirf.org  / www.agdic.info  Tel: +233 20 812 8851 Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk   _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ICANN GNSO Council Member | ICANN transfer policy review working group Member  | Council Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous Improvement (CCOICI) | UN IGF MAG Member | IGF Support Fund Association Executive Committee Member, World Bank Independent Consultant | AU AFIGF Member |  Ghana OGP Advisory Committee member | GSS SDGs Advisory Committee Member ____________________________________________________________________________________________  Specialization: E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber Security, Geospatial Technologies, Open Source Technologies, Domain Name Systems, Human Resource Planning and Development, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management, 
                     
     
  On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:00 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
  
On 23/05/2023 08:17, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
 
 > Last but not least, as the chair of CCOICI, I'll have to be neutral in 
 > the discussion. However, we do have both NCUC and NPOC rep on the 
 > CCOICI. If the NCSG finds the middle ground proposal acceptable, I hope 
 > our 2 reps will share this stance with the committee during our next 
 > CCOICI meeting.
 
 Juan Manuel and Wisdom, what's your view?
 
         Julf
 
 
  -- 
Kathy Kleiman
President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
   
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