[NCSG-PC] NCSG Policy Call - attendees, replay, chat - 16 May 2022

[farzaneh badii]

Manju,

What GAC is suggesting is a full blown PDP on its own. In their letter they
want to create another process to build consensus. They are re-opening the
issue. They also want to have an "EPDP" ( I did warn the council members at
the time when they were coming up with multiple EPDPs that it was a
recipe for overburdening us and re-opening issues.)

We need to be cognizant of the dangers of re-opening issues and our
recommendation about criteria should be in these lines:
The GAC wanted to have a Dialogue about Closed Generics. We need to have a
dialogue and not a full blown PDP process.Therefore having a facilitator,
representatives from each stakeholders etc is formalizing this process to
unacceptable degrees. If the GNSO council wants to just use its power to
convene another PDP or EPDP then it should say so. If it's just a dialogue,
why do we have to  get a facilitator, have a representation etc... lets
just have a meeting with them - with key people from the PDP- that's what a
dialogue means. A dialogue doesn't mean another PDP.

We need to talk to GAC directly about this and I suggest we do that during
this upcoming ICANN 74. Can we arrange that? Been a long time since we have
not had a meaningful one on convo with them which was a mistake in my
opinion.





Farzaneh


On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:01 PM 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As promised in the policy call yesterday, I'm circulating the tasks the
> Council small team on closed generics is working on:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtFiY-rLgP3r3uCaufgRA69DVoSYIBIyP_cLIB9PDdI/edit#
>
> We have been through the first 2 tasks but nothing is set in stone yet.
> We will start working on 'task 3', which is to 'provide guidance on the
> conditions, parameters, and methodology for the dialogue, which will be
> subject to mutual agreement with the GAC'.
>
> There are 3 questions I'd like to get input from our NCSG members:
>
>    - how do you think of the criteria for the facilitator, anything to
>    add or delete?
>    - what do we think would be the best composition for this future GNSO
>    group that is going to talk with GAC?
>    - Do we want to have some side discussions with the GAC and ALAC on
>    this issue? since our position is kind of aligned, it might be nice to
>    collaborate.
>
>
> Will highly appreciate any feedback!
>
> Best,
> Manju
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 3:59 AM Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find attendees, replay, and chat details for
>> the NCSG Monthly Policy Call held Monday, 16 May at 11:30 UTC. The
>> transcript will be sent upon completion.  Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Andrea and Brenda
>>
>>
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>>
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>> *ATTENDEES:  * Benjamin Akinmoyeje, Bolutife Adisa, Bruna Martins dos
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>> Kenyanito, Farell Folly, GZ Kabir, Juan Manuel Rojas, Kathy Kleiman, Manju
>> Chen, Poncelet Ileleji, Rafik Dammak, Raymond Mamattah, Razoana Moslam,
>> Shah Zahidur Rahman, Shavkat Sabiro, Taiwo Peter Akinremi, Tomslin
>> Samme-Nlar, Vernatius Ezeama | *ICANN org:  *Andrea Glandon, Brenda
>> Brewer, Carlos Reyes
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