NCSG Meeting Agenda and chat with CEO

[farzaneh badii]

The meeting with the CEO was on June 1st I believe.
But I have opinions about visas (as you know). people who have visa issues
have been raising the problems and even provided some solutions since
forever. We put all of them here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bKGEtdLkwAyPTcPtR9WqzH2wmW-pZmhhZfUWgejeKEU/edit

Nothing has changed. It won’t change either because majority from the West
can go visa free. There are some other reasons which I refrain from
mentioning here. Considering all the problems issuance of schengen visa has
post pandemic, the decision to go to the Hague did not consider a class of
people who could not get a visa. But nothing new here.

If this is about travel substitution, why make it about visa. Substitution
can’t take place sometimes when people face a personal problem etc. just
ask for substitution to be easier.



On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 5:43 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I support Tapani's suggestion - we almost lost half of our four slots
> because of visa problems for the Hague meeting. I did manage to fight back
> successfully for the other one but the other slot we lost. :(
>
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 14:06, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruna,
>>
>> I would like to suggest a topic for the CEO meeting. And for other
>> relevant fora as well. Namely, an old but still very relevant one,
>> now that meetings have become physical again:
>>
>> Visa problems with people from certain areas in the world, notably
>> Africa.
>>
>> In particular, I would highlight the time limits in Community Travel
>> Support Guidelines, which say that substitutions must be made at the
>> latest 45 days before the event.
>>
>> Given the timeframe traveller decisions are made, visa problems are
>> often not even known that early.
>>
>> Arguing that the policy is the same for everyone is disingenious,
>> as the problem doesn't apply to everyone equally.
>>
>> When you look at their actual effect, these rules are clearly
>> discriminatory, if not outright racist, in practice.
>>
>> As a concrete small step that would help at least a little, those
>> substitution time limits should be relaxed when the reason for
>> the substitution is a visa problem.
>>
>> In addition to the usual things like negotiating about it with
>> the host country already before selecting the meeting site.
>>
>> --
>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 12:10:34PM +0200, Bruna Martins dos Santos (
>> bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > It's time again! We are starting the preparations for ICANN 74, thats
>> > finally going to be a Hybrid meeting in The Hague from rom 13-16 June
>> 2022. In
>> > light of that, i'd like to bring the following topics/requests to our
>> list:
>> >
>> > *NCSG Membership Meeting agenda*
>> > I would like to ask you whether you'd like to contribute to the NCSG
>> > meeting agenda with the suggestions of topics or community/staff
>> members we
>> > could invite to join.
>> >
>> > *NCSG Leadership Meeting with ICANN CEO*
>> > On June 1stI will have another 1:1 meeting with Goran Marby and am also
>> > welcoming suggestions of topics our members would like me to discuss
>> with
>> > him during this upcoming meeting.
>> >
>> > Feel free to reply to this thread or to me privately with suggestions of
>> > topics and issues we could bring to the table both at our membership
>> > meeting but also with Mr. Marby.
>> >
>> > Looking forward to hearing back from you and seeing some in The Hague.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > --
>> >
>> > *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>> >
>> > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>> von
>> > Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>> >
>> > Visiting Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | Wissenschaftszentrum
>> Berlin
>> > für Sozialforschung (WZB) <https://wzb.eu/en>
>> >
>> > Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>> > <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>> > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>> >
>> > Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> > bruna.martinsantos
>> > *bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu <bruna.martinsdossantos at wzb.eu>* and
>> > bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>
> --
Farzaneh
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