Nomination period extended to Sunday (today) 23.59 PST

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM
Sun May 31 12:37:22 EEST 2020


Just to make it clear to everyone:

*NCUC elections timeline has NOT been altered*. NCUC EC is discussing this
unfortunate incident and, despite this being announced on the list by
Raoul, I cannot accept this suggestion until the EC has deliberated it
properly.

Best,
Bruna Santos
NCUC Chair

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:33 PM dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why do we always get ourselves into these situations.  It does not inspire
> confidence in the process.  Could those responsible please fix this
> soonest. Thanks
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:25 PM U Of T <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> I recused myself from this decision because i am a candidate for council,
>> but i did report to the EC the concerns raised at the candidates’ meeting
>> about the late refusal on one nomination, which left us with not enough
>> candidates to fill the positions.  However, I must agree with Bruna and
>> Tapani that any decision regarding the NCUC rests in the hands of the NCUC
>> EC,  certainly not the NCSG EC.
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 31, 2020, at 11:14, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Tatiana,
>> >
>> > Actually, if we want to pick nits, the charter does not have a process
>> > for this specific case.
>> >
>> > It only specifies that the EC should appoint in case a councillor
>> > "is unable to finish his or her term" - the case where there's
>> > no councillor to even begin the term is not mentioned.
>> >
>> > Now I won't argue that the EC should not do so anyway, there's really
>> > no alternative if enough candidates aren't available during the
>> > election, but nonetheless it would also be at least slightly bending
>> > the rules.
>> >
>> > On the other hand the charter does explicitly make the EC responsible
>> > of the election schedule, so while I do dislike changing things like
>> > that in the middle of the process, it is not against the charter text.
>> >
>> > So while neither option is really pretty, I don't see any serious
>> > legalistic argument against either, and I'm happy to let the EC decide
>> > which is best.
>> >
>> > As for NCUC, there you and Bruna are absolutely correct, decision there
>> > belongs to NCUC, not NCSG EC.
>> >
>> > Tapani
>> >
>> >> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 04:55:19PM +0200, Tatiana Tropina (
>> tatiana.tropina at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am also not convinced about the process of this extension. The
>> council
>> >> seat can be filled by an appointment made by NCSG EC and the NCSG
>> Charter
>> >> has a process for this. The new candidates won’t take part in meet the
>> >> candidates call. Why is there a need to bend the rules to fill in the
>> >> places if there is a process in place to fill them via EC?
>> >> Bruna also rightly pointed out that NCUC is a constituency that could
>> have
>> >> been at least consulted.
>> >> Warm regards,
>> >> Tatiana
>> >>
>> >>> On Sun 31. May 2020 at 16:43, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah I’m not sure why we are deviating from the Charter here?
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On 31 May 2020, at 15:34, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry, everyone. I understand that NCUC does not have any
>> candidates
>> >>> for EC NA at the moment, but I really wish you had respected the
>> >>> constituency independence in setting its own electoral deadlines
>> instead of
>> >>> announcing it on the list without the NCUC EC acknowledgement.
>> >>>
>> >>> I will speak with NCUC EC and get back to you on this.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:21 AM Tapani Tarvainen <
>> >>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Yes. There are four councillor positions and only three candidates at
>> >>>> the moment, and NCUC North American representative has no candidate.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> See
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Elections-2020
>> >>>>
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/Elections+2020
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tapani
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 05:11:27PM +0300, Raoul Plommer (
>> >>>> plommer at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sorry, as far as I know, the NCUC North American seat and one
>> councillor
>> >>>>> seat are still without a candidate. Perhaps someone can correct me
>> if
>> >>>> I'm
>> >>>>> wrong?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Raoul
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 17:07, Raymond Mamattah <
>> >>>> mamattah.raymond at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hello Raoul,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What has necessitated this extension? Are there some positions that
>> >>>> do not
>> >>>>>> have applications? If yes, kindly share that with us.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>> Raymond Mamattah
>> >>>>>> Accra-Ghana
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020, 1:51 PM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The NCSG EC has decided to extend the nomination period for the
>> NCSG
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>>>> NCUC elections a little, practically with 17 hours 10 minutes,
>> >>>> starting
>> >>>>>>> right now.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -Raoul
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>> >>>
>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>> @boomartins
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tapani Tarvainen
>>
>
>
> --
>
> stay well, kind regards
> Dorothy Gordon
>


-- 
*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
@boomartins
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