Running for multiple positions

[Olivier Kouami]

Greetings all.

Hi Caleb.

I think yes, for your question about the double affiliation. You can be a
leader at a SO level and at an AC level too. I think so.
Isn't possible @Amr.

Olévié

Le mer. 3 juin 2020 à 08:23, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
a écrit :

> Hello Tapani,
>
> One more question I think you should pose is....
>
> *Can one run /hold a leadership position in NCSG and still hold another
> leadership position outside NCSG? *
>
> Perhaps, during a charter review after the elections as suggested by
> Stephanie that such reviews can be initiated,  we should be able to get
> some public comments on this aspect of cross running / holding leadership
> positions in different ICANN Constituency.
>
>
> Caleb Ogundele
>
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> Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device.
>
> Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:31 AM Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> wrote:
>
>> I was asked if it is possible to run for multiple positions at the
>> same time in NCSG/NCUC/NPOC elections.
>>
>> As far as I can tell there's no rule against it, but there are
>> better rule-readers than me here (hi Amr) so...
>>
>> This is not purely theoretical, even though it is not
>> relevant to the present elections, and it would be good
>> to be clear about it well before the next round.
>>
>> And this is a good time to collect all things that might
>> cause problems in elections, loopholes that should be closed &c.
>> After the elections are over nobody will have energy to think
>> about them.
>>
>> Note, the question is about running for the positions, not about
>> serving in them at the same time: that is a separate issue
>> (interesting in its own right to be sure).
>>
>> That is, one could run for several positions and, if elected
>> to more than one, choose one of them at that point.
>>
>> And I'm not talking about whether or not it would be a good idea,
>> but about what current rules actually say about it. (We might
>> end up wanting to change them, but that's for later.)
>>
>> There are a few distinct cases:
>>
>> First, running for Council (or NCSG Chair) and either
>> NCUC EC or NPOC ExCom (or Chair of either) at the same time.
>>
>> As far as I can see the three elections are formally distinct
>> so one could indeed run in them all.
>>
>> In the past when the elections were ran at different times one could
>> resign from the previously-held position upon being elected to a new
>> one, but now when they're simultaneous the situation at least feels
>> different (and may even formally be in some cases).
>>
>> Second, running for positions in both NCUC and NPOC.
>> There's clearly no rule against that, indeed there's precedent
>> in even serving in both at once.
>>
>> Third, could one run for both Council and NCSG Chair at
>> the same time? I don't see any rule against that either.
>>
>> Fourth, running simultaneously for NCUC EC and NCUC Chair, or NPOC
>> ExCom and NPOC Chair, or for multiple positions in NPOC ExCom
>> (theoretically possible unlike in NCUC, where they're tied to
>> regions).
>>
>> NPOC does have a rule excluding councillors from ExCom and people from
>> holding multiple ExCom positions at the same time, but it is not clear
>> that it applies to *running* for them at the same time (arguably it
>> could be so read though).
>>
>> NCUC doesn't seem to have such rules at all, although NCUC bylaws
>> implicitly prevent NCUC Chair from being a regional representative at
>> the same time and (less clearly) NCSG Chair as well, but I see nothing
>> explicit there against councillors being EC members, let alone against
>> running for both.
>>
>> NCSG likewise: there's certainly no rule against NCSG EC members being
>> also constituency ExCom/EC members or Chairs (indeed it has happened
>> quite often in the past), but I can't see any rule against a
>> constituency EC member being NCSG Chair either, or even a councillor
>> being NCSG Chair. Even if some such limitations could be implied, I
>> don't see anything there either against running for multiple positions
>> like that, with the intent of serving only in one.
>>
>> Have I missed or misread something?
>>
>> --
>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>
>
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